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There will be a lot of great games the next 4 weeks. OSU plays Iowa at 3:30.
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So I just noticed the buckeyes have a bye week on November 9th, and they didn't play last Saturday. When did this 2 bye week thing start happening? I feel like I'm usually on the ball with this stuff. 
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Im being pressured into going to the ND-USC game Saturday. Its gonna be a long night surrounded by those Dbags. 
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So I just noticed the buckeyes have a bye week on November 9th, and they didn't play last Saturday. When did this 2 bye week thing start happening? I feel like I'm usually on the ball with this stuff.
I believe this is the first year for it. I think the main reason they did this was to lessen the length of lay off time between the last game of the season and to when they play their Bowl games
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So I just noticed the buckeyes have a bye week on November 9th, and they didn't play last Saturday. When did this 2 bye week thing start happening? I feel like I'm usually on the ball with this stuff.
I believe this is the first year for it. I think the main reason they did this was to lessen the length of lay off time between the last game of the season and to when they play their Bowl games
Do you mean first year for Big Ten teams? I know USC did it a few times under Pete Carroll, probably for that very reason.
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Yeah, I was talking about the BigTen.
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Tahj Boyd is going to impress people Saturday. I think his numbers will be average. However I think he will make some big time NFL plays and lead his team to victory.
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I actually think Florida State runs away with that game.
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Can't believe how poorly Morris has played today. UNCs pass defense has been terrific.
Somehow I completely forgot that Bryn Renner existed.
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Man UNC almost pulled off that hail mary
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Yeah that was crazy. Thought it was over... The play before the hail mary was a nice once by Renner and a nice job to grab some more yards at the end by the wideout. Receiver at the end got great position. Just too many hands.
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yeah, they actually had guys in front. if the pass ended up short, then they likely win that game.
and Morris looked terrible. Miami would have been better off running every single play.
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You know I was thinking this the other day, I'm not a huge fan of this committee for picking the CF playoff, but it's not gonna stop me from watching or anything.
But why couldn't they keep the BCS formula and take the top 4 instead of the top 2?
If you thought the complaining and whining was bad with this system, just wait until the 5th, 6th, 7th, team start complaining. When the machine doesn't pick you, it's hard to complain that much, but now you have AD's politicians, etc... Oh this is going to be golden. The minute an SEC team gets left out, there will be hell to pay.
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Tahj Boyd is going to impress people Saturday. I think his numbers will be average. However I think he will make some big time NFL plays and lead his team to victory.
People are going to be more impressed with Jameis Winston of FSU.. he is the best QB in the country and I'm not certain that it's all that close.
I think it's going to be a very good game..
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You know I was thinking this the other day, I'm not a huge fan of this committee for picking the CF playoff, but it's not gonna stop me from watching or anything.
But why couldn't they keep the BCS formula and take the top 4 instead of the top 2?
If you thought the complaining and whining was bad with this system, just wait until the 5th, 6th, 7th, team start complaining. When the machine doesn't pick you, it's hard to complain that much, but now you have AD's politicians, etc... Oh this is going to be golden. The minute an SEC team gets left out, there will be hell to pay.
That's my feeling as well. There has been very little argument over who the 3rd and 4th teams in the country have been in the BCS era. Now maybe that's partially because there is no payoff for being 3rd or 4th ...... but it seems to me that most years the computer gets that part right. I like having a human element involved as well. That said, I would love a 4 team playoff for the national championship, instead of just changing the way we pick 2 teams.
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There has been very little argument over who the 3rd and 4th teams in the country have been in the BCS era. Now maybe that's partially because there is no payoff for being 3rd or 4th ...... but it seems to me that most years the computer gets that part right.
that's entirely because noone cared. the arguments over the 4th team now will be louder than anything that has happened for the 2nd spot.
last year, Oregon was the 3rd team and noone likely complains there.
but, who is the 4th? K-State, Florida, Boise each had 1 loss. Stanford, LSU, Georgia, FSU, Oklahoma, SoCar, A&M each had good cases for being better than those teams despite 2 losses (particularly Georgia --- beat Florida, and only got 2nd loss because of SEC title game).
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2010 - Oregon, Bama, TCU all undefeated and atop the BCS rankings (though TCU not yet in BigXII, so some outrage over them assuredly).
Stanford 4th.
Wisconsin and Ohio State both 1 loss teams sitting next.
Oklahoma and Arkie 2 losses just behind them and somehow ahead of 1loss Michigan State.
This would have been one of the more louder debates.
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There has been very little argument over who the 3rd and 4th teams in the country have been in the BCS era. Now maybe that's partially because there is no payoff for being 3rd or 4th ...... but it seems to me that most years the computer gets that part right.
that's entirely because noone cared. the arguments over the 4th team now will be louder than anything that has happened for the 2nd spot.
last year, Oregon was the 3rd team and noone likely complains there.
but, who is the 4th? K-State, Florida, Boise each had 1 loss. Stanford, LSU, Georgia, FSU, Oklahoma, SoCar, A&M each had good cases for being better than those teams despite 2 losses (particularly Georgia --- beat Florida, and only got 2nd loss because of SEC title game).
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2010 - Oregon, Bama, TCU all undefeated and atop the BCS rankings (though TCU not yet in BigXII, so some outrage over them assuredly).
Stanford 4th.
Wisconsin and Ohio State both 1 loss teams sitting next.
Oklahoma and Arkie 2 losses just behind them and somehow ahead of 1loss Michigan State.
This would have been one of the more louder debates.
a giant can of worms is going to be opened. I think it will make college football more hilarious and fun.
The only two years where there were really big time debates was Auburn running the table and missing out (I think that was the year USC destroyed Oklahoma) and there was the year LSU won under Saban and USC decided to just call themselves AP champs and treat it like they won the BCS.
I'm actually pretty excited for this madness, but if you ask me, the better solution would have been to keep the BCS rankings, and just take the top 4 from there.
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yeah, I am not complaining either. One of the more fun aspects of college football are the barstool debates over everything. They just appeased the general public about a playoff while adding a bunch more to debate. impressive feat.
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I actually don't think this 4 team playoff system will last beyond 2-5 years ... I think it's just easing us into a bigger playoff system.
IMO an 8 team playoff system is ideal for college, but I can see it increasing to 16. Think about the ratings and the possibilities the NCAA could have.
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I have maintained from the start of the crazy conference expansion that I expect it to eventually settle on 4x16team conferences.
break those up into 8 team divisions, then play conference championships and pit the 4 champs against each other in a tournament. You basically end up with an 8team playoff that way.
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the arguments over the 4th team now will be louder than anything that has happened for the 2nd spot.
They will be louder only because there will be more participants... in the past there was 1, maybe 2, teams outside of the BCS championship game that could make a reasonable claim as to why they deserved to in the top 2... Now there will likely be 5 or 6 that could argue why they belong in a 4 team playoff...
The more teams you add, the bigger the bubble, the more teams that can argue why they should be in ....but at the same time, the more each argument is irrelevant...
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ah, but, the irrelevant part doesn't matter to the fan of that college football team 
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I don't think the bubble gets bigger, I think the bubble stays the same size. The natilonal noise will be the same over the #3 team left out in the current system, the #5 team left out in the new system, the #9 team left out in the future system just like there's noise for the #69 team left out of the March Madness bracket. Why? Because we all want there to be a snub so we can debate it. That's how I think most will view it, but to me, I think the 4-team setup is perfect. I'm sure an 8-team setup will be more fun, but I looked back at the BCS rankings in the past few years, I wasn't impressed with the teams sitting 5-8. I didn't think they jumped out to me as "we need a title shot because we're one of the best teams in the country". http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/year/2010/week/15Check out the link. Look at week 15 for each previous year. Maybe it's an old way to think about it, like as if my brain is trained debate the best two college football teams, not the best 8.
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Of course the bubble gets bigger... Take your example of 2010, you have 3 undefeated teams and a few 1 loss teams that have a legitimate argument that they should be in the NC game.. if you go to an 8 team playoff, you have teams as far back as 19 with 1 loss that will make the argument that they deserve a spot... so you don't have 3 or 4 teams complaining, you have 11 or 12...
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Oh I get that the media will latch onto some stories and pick sides and decide who was snubbed.. I get it, my own personal opinion is that the bigger the field, the more irrelevant the snub. In a 2 team championship game, getting snubbed hurts because if you are right on the outside looking in, that means you probably had a legitimate shot to actually win the game... if you are arguing because you thought you deserved to be the 32nd at large team taken... well I have little sympathy for you. The purpose of the tournament is to crown a champion and if your best argument is that you have some mild statistical advantage over the 32nd team taken... then you ain't the best team, deal with it.
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How did Louisville lose to UCF? I see Bridgewater didn't have a terrible game, but it seems like he shouldn't be losing to lower level teams.
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It was on ESPN last night. They couldn't stop the run. Louisville was winning by 21 and UCF stormed back. A fumble by a RB was a big play. UCF took a 3 point lead and then Louisville mounted a pretty clutch drive that was aided by a 4th down PI call. The Cardinals scored a late TD and their fans thought they won the game. However, UCF, led by Bortles [I mentioned him in the Pure Football forum as another guy to watch] and scored w/23 seconds left. Louisville got it back and Bridgewater did complete a few passes, but his Hail Mary fell incomplete at time expired.
UCF is pretty good. They beat Penn State. Their only loss was to South Carolina. The did have the Gamecocks on the ropes in the first half and played them tough throughout. Louisville's run defense was bad.
Bridgewater had a good game. He made one throw that was unreal. He was solid. He was calm. He was accurate. There might be something missing, though. He doesn't play w/a lot of passion. It's hard to explain, but you know how there is a big difference in the energy levels of Hoyer and Weeden? Bridgewater plays kind of flat.
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So I may have asked this question before, but why don't we have a grass surface at the shoe?
I think it has something to do with drainage.
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Yes you are correct it was drainage, plus the field turf allows them to have more events at the stadium. link Brian Gimbel, Sportsturf Manager for Ohio State said "We've been struggling with a deteriorating drainage system all year, so we are going to have to do some major work to the field anyway. With plans for the number of events on the field to increase substantially, an artificial surface seems like the best choice. We've had a couple of rubber-infill practice fields for several years now and the team knows what they can expect out of them. The artificial turf will definitely handle the increase in usage better than natural grass would. We plan to repair the drainage and resurface the field after the Spring Football Game in April 2007."
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The better question is:
Where has our defense at the Shoe gone?? Man, Iowa is just blowing us right off the ball in the first half.
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Stupid that they eject guys for it now, but it's the right call.
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I've got big problems with that call, first of the there was less than 20 seconds of review. Second Roby didn't launch, his feet were on the ground when he hit him. Also, he lead with his shoulder and had his head to the side.
BTW, Rod Gilmore is ridiculous.
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He did target though. This wasn't a case of "The receiver caught the ball and was ducking as he got hit." that you see a lot of. The receiver caught the ball, and was standing basically straight up the entire time and Roby intentionally went high.
I don't agree with the ejection but that's because I disagree with the rule, not the interpretation of the rule here.
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Horrible call IMO. What are you supposed to do? Let him catch the ball in front of you and keep running for more yardage? On top of it there was no helmet to helmet contact and everything was cleaned. And a quarter later an Iowa player does almost exactly the same thing and no flag!!! That showed how flawed the earlier call was.... That ref should be ashamed.
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