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It is bizarre.  Now it's 27-19 with the extra point coming. Stanford better cover this onside kick. Oregon's kicker has made 2 spectacular onside kicks in a row, with Oregon recovering one.
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I do not understand how Stanford houses UCLA and Oregon, but loses to Utah. It makes no sense.
It looks like a Stanford versus UCLA rematch in the Pac-12 Championship for the chance to go to the Rose Bowl.
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Stanford I think would squish Ohio state.
Why do you think that? Their offense isn't anything special and I think tOSU has at least as good of an offense as Oregon.
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Why do you think that? Their offense isn't anything special and I think tOSU has at least as good of an offense as Oregon.
We don't have the play makers or the speed, but we're much more physical than Oregon could ever dream of.
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OSU should now be ranked number 3! Yay! 
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Yes, their front 7 is loaded with NFL talent. Especially with LBers and Ends. I still think OSU could handle them though.
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Yes, their front 7 is loaded with NFL talent. Especially with LBers and Ends. I still think OSU could handle them though.
Our offensive line wouldn't get destroyed like Oregons did. We also have a physical RB in Hyde.
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Those 20 points Oregon came up with at the end were the best thing that could have happened for Ohio State.
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i don't know. in the end, i don't think there is any way voters could put a Stanford team that lost to Utah ahead of Ohio State. yes, they have some good victories as well and Ohio State has nothing like the Oregon win on their resume. but, one of the great things in college football is that you have to show up EVERY week. the Cardinals did not.
now, if LSU can just beat Bama this weekend.
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Good job by Stanford. That definitely helps Ohio State.
I just don't know if FSU or Bama has a loss in them. I'm not sure how good Auburn really is. Maybe LSU Saturday?
I actually came away still impressed with Mariota. The loss may drive his stock down a tad, since he won't be on the big stage to really get everyone's attention.
Oregon had zero running game because of the size difference on the lines. I thought he had a few nice throws, but I really think he could develop in the NFL. He's not a can't miss guy, but I think for us, Chud could really work with him. It would be ideal for him too as he could probably sit the whole year, since we have 2 competent qb's on the team right now (Hoyer coming off injury of course) that there wouldn't be a huge rush to get him out on the field.
I totally disagree about Stanford crushing Ohio State. Not with the way that team is playing right now. Their offense looks unstoppable. Their defense is finally looking better. I realize they haven't had that true test yet, but they are doing to these lesser teams what they are supposed to be doing.
Man that whole Wisconsin/ASU fiasco from September really hurts Ohio State and the Big Ten right now. Wisconsin is a top 15 team otherwise.
The conference would look so much better with that. You could also say Michigan State had they not played Andrew Maxwell against Notre Dame, they probably win there, and then you are looking at 3 top 15 teams in the conference. The Big Ten doesn't look as bad. Sucks, but that's the way it's gone.
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Mariota needs to protect the ball better... One lost fumble and another that he was able tog back but could have been a huge loss.... I think the kid has a lot of talent but he did not have a very good night last night.
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Mariota needs to protect the ball better... One lost fumble and another that he was able tog back but could have been a huge loss.... I think the kid has a lot of talent but he did not have a very good night last night.
Yeah, fumbling has been an issue with him, but the good thing is that's something that can be fixed.
I feel like he can make every NFL throw. He can get to the outside quickly and avoid negative plays. Obviously the system he would be in will be very different. Even if he ended up with the Eagles, because of the competition and the way the game at the NFL is structured, it will be different.
He did not have a good night last night, but that game was lost, and won by Stanford at the line of scrimmage.
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You guys need to worry more about Baylor jumping Ohio State than Stanford.
A 1 loss team will not get in ahead of undfeated Ohio State simply because of the name "Ohio State" and the attention it draws.
(Unless that 1 loss team was someone like Alabama last year, another big name program, then it would be possible I suppose)
Baylor is just now getting into the rough part of their schedule, but they manhandled Oklahoma last night. If they win out, they'll have wins over
Oklahoma
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That jumps Ohio State.
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I agree - with ohio states schedule the only way they get into the championship game is if there are only two undefeated teams left
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TCU? you really count them this year? they are not even going to a bowl game.
I think Baylor could jump Ohio State, but only if Michigan State loses a game before the Big10 title game. If they come in 11-1, then that will be the last thing on voters minds before the crucial vote. A win there would push the Buckeyes over the top IMO.
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You guys need to worry more about Baylor jumping Ohio State than Stanford.
A 1 loss team will not get in ahead of undfeated Ohio State simply because of the name "Ohio State" and the attention it draws.
(Unless that 1 loss team was someone like Alabama last year, another big name program, then it would be possible I suppose)
Baylor is just now getting into the rough part of their schedule, but they manhandled Oklahoma last night. If they win out, they'll have wins over
Oklahoma
Texas Tech
@Oklahoma State
@TCU
That jumps Ohio State.
If Bama or FSU loses they will not let Baylor jump Ohio 'State. If all four are undefeated they will have Bama and FSU in the title game and match up OSU and Baylor in another BCS game so who is #3 or #4 won't matter. Next year it will but this year it won't.
Ohio State has to just worry about it self. They can easily be upset if they play a bad game on Offense. @Michigan, rivalry game. Can't take that for granted no matter which MAC school beats/nearly beats Mich. Then Michigan State in the B1G Title game.
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it is impossible for an undefeated Ohio State and Baylor to matchup in a BCS game.
the Rose Bowl owns the rights to the Big10 and Pac12 champ unless they are in the national championship game. So, an undefeated Buckeye team would play the winner of the Pac12 (Stanford, UCLA, or AZ State likely at this point). Baylor would be in the Fiesta Bowl.
above assumes your parameters of FSU and Bama also being undefeated.
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Correct - that could give us three undefeated teams at the end of the bowl season....or really more depending on what Fresno and northern Illinois does...
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I don't really count TCU, no. I was just listing the rest of their schedule.
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Your right, I was thinking that they could opt out like when OSU played ND but I forgot that year the BCS Title game was in the Rose Bowl so OSU could play any bowl game it wanted besides that.
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I don't think Baylor jumps OSU. I don't think the voters are sold on them. I know they are down on OSU, but if those 2 met on a neutral field, OSU would be favored.
I'm not worried bout Baylor at all.
If OSU takes care of business, beats Michigan St (most likely) and FSU or Bama falls, they will be in that game.
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Until about the 2nd quarter, then they'll be out of it  
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Until about the 2nd quarter, then they'll be out of it
Well that's a whole different conversation.
I do think they could give Bama a good game. I would set the line at Alabama by at least a TD though.
QB's like Miller are kryptonite for Saban defenses.
I don't know how well they could defend Alabama's offense.
For the record I would put the line around the same for FSU/Bama.
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The lines are already out there for potential BCS matchups.
Couple have already been ruined with losses by Oregon and Missouri, but here's what's left.
Alabama -9.5 vs. Ohio State
Alabama -6.5 vs. Florida State
Florida State -4.5 vs. Ohio State
Before Missouri and Oregon losses, they had
Oregon -9.5 vs. Ohio State
Ohio State -3 vs. Missouri
There were a few other possibilities, obviously, but those are the likely matchups now plus the ones they had for Ohio State before Oregon/Mizzou losses.
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The lines are already out there for potential BCS matchups.
Couple have already been ruined with losses by Oregon and Missouri, but here's what's left.
Alabama -9.5 vs. Ohio State
Alabama -6.5 vs. Florida State
Florida State -4.5 vs. Ohio State
Before Missouri and Oregon losses, they had
Oregon -9.5 vs. Ohio State
Ohio State -3 vs. Missouri
There were a few other possibilities, obviously, but those are the likely matchups now plus the ones they had for Ohio State before Oregon/Mizzou losses.
I would like Bama over FSU, but -6.5 seems like a sucker bet. I don't know if you can say that with a future bet though. I'm not a big futures guy. I like having the play right in front of me and now months from that moment.
I think I just have it pounded in my head to almost automatically think sucker bet whenever I see that 6.5
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I know last year theoretically doesn't count, but it will be hard to ignore a team that hasn't lost a game in two freaking years.
I've said it all along, we just need to survive. Things should shake out.
The championship game? Our defense still worries me, especially if we played FSU. However, I think our offense might be the best in the country. We have a lot of weapons and you can see that Myer really worked on the passing game in last week's exhibition game.
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I know last year theoretically doesn't count, but it will be hard to ignore a team that hasn't lost a game in two freaking years.
I've said it all along, we just need to survive. Things should shake out.
The championship game? Our defense still worries me, especially if we played FSU. However, I think our offense might be the best in the country. We have a lot of weapons and you can see that Myer really worked on the passing game in last week's exhibition game.
The biggest crime would be wasting an incredibly good offensive line. Those guys up front have been so good.
Ever since the second quarter of that Iowa game, Ohio State has had their foot punched on the pedal. They need to keep it there.
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Baylor is just now getting into the rough part of their schedule, but they manhandled Oklahoma last night. If they win out, they'll have wins over
Oklahoma
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That jumps Ohio State.
Why? If Ohio State wins out, they'll have wins against Wisconsin, Northwestern, Iowa, Penn State and Michigan plus whoever they play in the Big 10 Championship game, likely to be either Michigan State or Nebraska.
That's just a bunch of pansies, I know, but they would have beaten them all. LOL
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If Bama or FSU loses they will not let Baylor jump Ohio 'State. If all four are undefeated they will have Bama and FSU in the title game and match up OSU and Baylor in another BCS game so who is #3 or #4 won't matter. Next year it will but this year it won't.
Ohio State has to just worry about it self. They can easily be upset if they play a bad game on Offense. @Michigan, rivalry game. Can't take that for granted no matter which MAC school beats/nearly beats Mich. Then Michigan State in the B1G Title game.
If Ohio State goes undefeated but doesn't get into the National Championship game, I expect that they'll turn down a worthless BCS Bowl bid and choose the Rose Bowl game against whoever the Pac-12 champion is, probably Oregon or Stanford.
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... an incredibly good offensive line. Those guys up front have been so good.
Excellent point. Our OL is tremendous. Four returning starters and the kid [#68] after a rough opener, has really stepped it up. They give our QBs time to throw and open gashing holes for our RBs. Probably the best OL in the country.
I don't think any team can shut down our offense. Might be the best O in the country.
Our defense, while improving, is still very suspect. We have to find a way to generate pressure on opposing QBs because our coverage in the passing game is really poor.
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Excellent point. Our OL is tremendous. Four returning starters and the kid [#68] after a rough opener, has really stepped it up. They give our QBs time to throw and open gashing holes for our RBs. Probably the best OL in the country.
I don't think any team can shut down our offense. Might be the best O in the country.
Our defense, while improving, is still very suspect. We have to find a way to generate pressure on opposing QBs because our coverage in the passing game is really poor.
The lack of a pass rush scares me against a guy like AJ McCarron who has pretty much done nothing but win. If you let him sit back there, you're gonna have a bad time.
I know you can say a lot of that for Winston, but if I know one thing about college football right now, it's not fun for the opposition when Saban gets more than a week to prepare for you.
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If Bama or FSU loses they will not let Baylor jump Ohio 'State. If all four are undefeated they will have Bama and FSU in the title game and match up OSU and Baylor in another BCS game so who is #3 or #4 won't matter. Next year it will but this year it won't.
Ohio State has to just worry about it self. They can easily be upset if they play a bad game on Offense. @Michigan, rivalry game. Can't take that for granted no matter which MAC school beats/nearly beats Mich. Then Michigan State in the B1G Title game.
If Ohio State goes undefeated but doesn't get into the National Championship game, I expect that they'll turn down a worthless BCS Bowl bid and choose the Rose Bowl game against whoever the Pac-12 champion is, probably Oregon or Stanford.
They pretty much have to go to the rose bowl because of big to obligation... If the big ten champion is not in th national title game then they go to the rose bowl... Which is still a bcs bowl game by the way 
So right now as long as they take care of business they are looking at either the national championship game or the rose bowl... Either way it should be a great game and big challenge...
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They don't have to do anything. They're free to turn down any BCS bowl game if they choose. What would be the point of a worthless BCS bowl game? They would obviously (as the Big 10 champs) be going to the Rose Bowl if not the National Championship, but they're not obligated to accept it. If Ohio State feels slighted by the BCS, they could let it go down into the history books in it's final season as the fraud that it is by refusing an automatic invitation to the Rose Bowl. Put the pall over the whole thing with a stick in the eye. Personally, I might encourage it. I've never really liked it. Totally subjective to voter bias and money bias.
It might be left up to the players themselves (particularly the seniors) since they'll be the ones affected most by any such decision. It would be one more showcase for the players to show scouts what they can do.
Ohio State won't lose any reputation if they turned it down, so it wouldn't be that big of a deal. The only repercussions they could face would be coaching and sportswriters votes, but if that's proven to be corrupt too, it won't solve their problems.
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That's true, but even if they won out, I could see the sportswriters voting to keep Ohio State out of the #2 spot, ranked lower than a 1-loss team.
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There is no media conspiracy against Ohio State. The bottom line is their schedule has been weaker than the other contenders. Even with that a 1 lose Stanford will not pass them in the standings. It is a topic brought up by sports analysts to stir up controversy for ratings purposes.
Baylor does have alegit shot to pass them. Not saying they will but if they hammer Tesas Tech, Okie St, and Texas as they did Oklahoma the other night they will have a shot. Although, no Big 12 title game will hurt them.
What is hurting Ohio State is the fact Michigan struggled so much vs very bad Akron and UConn teams. Like them or not Michigan is a big name team in the Big 10. Also, the Penn State fiasco has really hurt the Big 10. if Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State were top 10 to 20 teams with a win or 2 vs other conferences top level teams there would not be the Big Ten is a weak conference talk. Have the 3 flag ship programs doing well and then adding in good Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan State, and Nebraska teams and the conferense would be held right up there with the SEC and Pac 12. Right now the Big Ten is no where close to where it should be and Michigan and Penn State are to blame. Ohio State is taking the hit for the others failures.
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Says who? The pundits that you listen to, who are likely listening to the opinions of other pundits that they and you listen to.
I don't see how Ohio State, ranked #2 at the beginning of the season (before any games were played) has somehow lost ranking without losing a game. If they were rated as the 2nd best team in the nation in Week #1 and hasn't lost a game since, they somehow become less talented? That it 'matters' that Michigan has lost games or other teams that Ohio State played aren't as good as they were expected is a flaw in the system. I thought that the #2 ranking they had received was about the talent on Ohio State. The same can be said of other teams.
In my view, if a team is ranked at a certain spot in the Week #1 rankings, they shouldn't fall below that ranking until such time as they lose a game.
I'll only add that I can't wait until this college football season is over so we can bury (if only partially) the BCS system. May they bury any remnant of it very soon and may we all forget that it ever existed.
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