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There is no media conspiracy against Ohio State. The bottom line is their schedule has been weaker than the other contenders.
Says who? The pundits that you listen to, who are likely listening to the opinions of other pundits that they and you listen to.
I don't see how Ohio State, ranked #2 at the beginning of the season (before any games were played) has somehow lost ranking without losing a game. If they were rated as the 2nd best team in the nation in Week #1 and hasn't lost a game since, they somehow become less talented? That it 'matters' that Michigan has lost games or other teams that Ohio State played aren't as good as they were expected is a flaw in the system. I thought that the #2 ranking they had received was about the talent on Ohio State. The same can be said of other teams.
In my view, if a team is ranked at a certain spot in the Week #1 rankings, they shouldn't fall below that ranking until such time as they lose a game.
I'll only add that I can't wait until this college football season is over so we can bury (if only partially) the BCS system. May they bury any remnant of it very soon and may we all forget that it ever existed.
I think it's fairly obvious at this point that teams have outshined Ohio State by playing top 10 competition.
It's not about OSU being less talented when the season started, it's about them being more talented.
There's also no OSU conspiracy going on at the moment no matter how much Mark May would like one.
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I hope Ohio State turns down a BCS bid. You'll never get another top recruit under Urban Meyer after sending the message of 'Win a National Title or we're not letting you play'
You don't turn down bowl bids
http://espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4713316
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I hope Ohio State turns down a BCS bid. You'll never get another top recruit under Urban Meyer after sending the message of 'Win a National Title or we're not letting you play'
You don't turn down bowl bids
http://espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4713316
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A) Just fired their head coach
B) Do not have a replacement coach
C) Might lose money
D) Play in a minor bowl game
Do any of those factors sound like something OSU is going through right now?
(The answer is no.)
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I think it's fairly obvious at this point that teams have outshined Ohio State by playing top 10 competition.
And this is where the 'subjectiveness' of the ranking system corrupts the process.
I would recommend to you that you'd be better off ranking the teams in the preseason and adjusting each week based upon teams that lose and the factors like final score and ranking of opponent faced. A team should never be ranked lower than this preseason ranking until such time as a loss occurs. A team that is ranked and loses should have their ranking adjusted downward (based on the survey method they use now) and the average taken to be the new ranking for the team. The teams below the old ranking spot should move up one spot.
I know they're going to have a 'playoff' with the Top 4 ranked teams (still following the same ranking system as now). If I recall, there is talk of eventually expanding this to the Top 8 teams. This would be better than the current system since, if a team is truly the best, they should be able to come out on top with additional weeks of 'top flight' competition.
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I hope Ohio State turns down a BCS bid. You'll never get another top recruit under Urban Meyer after sending the message of 'Win a National Title or we're not letting you play'
You don't turn down bowl bids
http://espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4713316
Uh huh.
A) Just fired their head coach
B) Do not have a replacement coach
C) Might lose money
D) Play in a minor bowl game
Do any of those factors sound like something OSU is going through right now?
(The answer is no.)
The only legit reason cited was the 'might lose money'.
Reason A) They are the ones that fired the head coach, nobody else. Ridiculous reasoning there.
Reason B) There are assistant coaches on these college teams that could have taken up the role. If they made this decision after talking to the other coaches then they fired the wrong person(s). They should have been the ones to resign.
Reason C) As stated, this would be the only legit reason.
Reason D) A fraudulent reason. You don't disregard a bowl bid, a minor bowl or not. You take whatever chances you can to showcase your team's talent to improve the university's prestige, even in a 'down year'.
Sorry man, I'm not buying the explanations given by Notre Dame at the time and repeated by you now.
And it didn't hurt their recruitment. There is no top talent that will say, I want to play at Ohio State and be coached by Urban Meyer but there's that pesky BCS garbage. I'll go play at Michigan instead. 
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I don't think it'd hurt their recruitment at all, I would leave that decision to the kids.
I just can't see them, or anyone else turning down BCS money.
It's a stupid system, we've known that for years, and if it ends up Alabama V Florida St., that's fine, both earned it, both have better a better resume.
If you ask me, aside from the resume, Ohio State can play with anyone in the country right now.
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In 2014, they'll take Nos. 1-4 in the rankings and have a playoff among those four teams. Since it entails rankings, it open to corruption. In my opinion, they should take the winners of the top 8 conferences (based upon conference SOS). That would be my solution.
I disagree.....the 2nd, or even 3rd best team could be better than the winner of some crap conference. The 2nd team in the SEC or Big 10 is usually a better match than whatever 8th conference winner you propose.
The last team in the SEC could kick the crap out of most MAC winners as an example.
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If you ask me, aside from the resume, Ohio State can play with anyone in the country right now.
I agree with this. Next year will be a little bit more refreshing when there are the Top 4 teams busting each other's jaws to win the championship instead of one overrated team (yes, I'll say that Alabama is overrated) against a softer team. If it ends up being FSU against Alabama, my money is on FSU to absolutely CRUSH Alabama. A national disgrace fully worthy of seppuku by Alabama's players.
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I disagree.....the 2nd, or even 3rd best team could be better than the winner of some crap conference. The 2nd team in the SEC or Big 10 is usually a better match than whatever 8th conference winner you propose.
Maybe. Boise State proved that this isn't always the case with wins over more premier conference opponents in some premier bowl games.
If they aren't the best in their conference, they aren't the best, now are they? And I also stated that it should be the winners of the top 8 conferences, based upon SOS. The NFL has the top team in each conference going to the playoffs.
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The last team in the SEC could kick the crap out of most MAC winners as an example.
I doubt that. I would say that the last place team in the SEC is as much (or more) of a patsy than most of the Division 2 and even Division 3 conference champs.
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The last two teams in the SEC have combined for losses against Western Kentucky and Rutgers. The two teams, Kentucky and Arkansas, are a combined 0-11 in the SEC.
Just because you have SEC games on the schedule doesn't make you this great team.
It's one of the things in college football I hate, also teams who have 4-5 losses but a bunch to ranked teams. As if you should be rewarded for losing to good teams. You're still losing.
If you ask me, I'd take Buffalo to win straight up over Arkansas.
I love the SEC, but sometimes SEC fan logic is just LOLZ.
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The last team in the SEC could kick the crap out of most MAC winners as an example.
No, no they couldn't.
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I think he was just being hyperbolic and wasn't suggesting that as a serious thing. However the top 6 teams in the SEC would be better than the winners of American, MWC, or MAC. But the top 4 teams in the B1G, ACC, and PAC could do that too.
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Well if you look at last year Kentucky went 2-10 and beat Kent State 45-14 who played in the MAC Championship.
As far as preseason rankings go. They are fun to look at but preseason rankings have never been used as set in stone standards. Early in a season if one team has a huge victory vs a top ranked team they will move up in front of other teams who played a cupcake team. It is called rewarding that team for taking on a challenge and being successful.
That same tough schedule can come back and bite teams in the butt. Ask Georgia. Preseason they were a top 5 team and had top 5 talent. But got totally beat up playing Clemson, South Carolina, and LSU in their first 4 games. Besides the loss to Clemson they lost their 2 starting Wide Receivers and a running back for the season. And lost their other starting running back for multiple games. Risk vs reward is what those early season tough games are.
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LSU has a lot of mismatch problems for Bama. This will be a close game.
Geaux Tigers.
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LSU has a lot of mismatch problems for Bama. This will be a close game.
Geaux Tigers.
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Why do I have a feeling that LSU will look back at that fumble as the reason they lost
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Mettenberger reminds me of Matthew Stafford.
Odel Beckham Jr. and Jarvis Landry are beasts.
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I dunno man, I mean it's probably a guarantee they will do something stupid later on in this game.
Through a quarter, they look like the better team, but have nothing to show for it.
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Mettenburger has really improved this year. He was not good most of theyear last year. He did have a good game vs Alabama last year. His draft stock has really risen this year. Before the season started he was not mentioned very often as top half draft qb.
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Wow, didn't expect that. Nice catch and run by the big man.
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That Alabama TE ran like a damn WR.
WTF are they feeding these kids...?
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That Alabama TE ran like a damn WR.
WTF are they feeding these kids...?
That tight end catch and run reminded me of when Jason Witten had a long catch and run against Michigan in a bowl game where I thought he would get caught and he kept pulling away. I had the same thought when this kid first caught the ball but he just kept pulling away from smaller men.
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What was that WR thinking on that 2nd down run? Total whiff. Killed their drive.
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Looking at this game in a Cleveland Browns perspective. Whick QB would you rather have? Here is my thoughts.
Zach Mettenburger looks to have more size, a better arm, and takes longer shots. He can make all of the NFL throws. He may have more untapped potental? Probably more of a risky boom or bust player.
AJ McCarran is a game manager who does not make mistakes, His reads have been perfect even the passes he made that were not accurate the ball always seems to be thrown to the right receiver. He is a leader. He needs have a big combine and show the arm strength needed in the NFL.
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Wow, how was that not PI on first down.
Mettenberger is playing great. He seems to be better than the last time I saw him every time I catch LSU on. He's winning me over as top choice tonight. Between him and Manziel for me right now.
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He's been really impressive under pressure, except for that blown pick by Mosley.
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CJ Mosley has been pretty impressive tonight.
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Alabama is elite, but Jeremy Hill is freaking awful. Bounces outside way too much.
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Alabama could still lose to auburn, and south carolina/missouri. Florida State is a lock in the championship. If bama, florida state played, I would take florida state to win. Winston reminds me of a vince young in terms of confidence and leadership.
My biggest complaint with next years playoff is why do they have a panel pick these teams.? just use the bcs system now and take the top 4. God forbid we need some bozos picking these teams.
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