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This is an interesting article about the Rams and the Browns. They could make a really interesting deal:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-d...-to-first-round
really if the rams covet Clowney or mathews they could trade with us and still get their player at 4. We would give up whatever is needed to make the trade equitable., as long as do not pay RGIII money for it, I would be good... especialy if it lands us Bortles.
exactly. the only team that isn't QB deprived is St. Louis. even if they trade with us, and pick at 4, jacksonville is picking a QB at 3. so yea, they definitely get their defensive player, or whoever the hell else they want.
the biggest problem isn't the trading up with st. louis.
the problem becomes are any of these QB's not named Teddy bridgewater worth it? i mean, if the FO and the coaching staff REALLY REALLY feels that Manziel or Bortles is the guy, then by all means, i'll throw my support, even if the QB ends up busting, because you gotta go out and get that guy. . but its got to be beyond a shadow of a doubt, because if they aren't sold on those 3 QB's, theres zero reason to pick them at 4, let alone trade up to get them.
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I couild live with that..;. but who is the 4th QB?
I got Bridgewater going first, leaving Bortles and Manziel. My fear is the Vikes or somebody jumps to 2 takes, Bortles and then JVille takes Manziel, leaving us holding ourown junk and trying to justify taking Clowney.
If #4 QB is Carr ... then No thanks.
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the problem becomes are any of these QB's not named Teddy bridgewater worth it? i mean, if the FO and the coaching staff REALLY REALLY feels that Manziel or Bortles is the guy, then by all means, i'll throw my support, even if the QB ends up busting, because you gotta go out and get that guy. . but its got to be beyond a shadow of a doubt, because if they aren't sold on those 3 QB's, theres zero reason to pick them at 4, let alone trade up to get them.
Agreed, by no means am i sold on any of the big three coming out... they all have concerns either mentally, phsycally ot talent wise.. but if they pinpoint the one they want... then they need to go after him and get him.
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I couild live with that..;. but who is the 4th QB?
I got Bridgewater going first, leaving Bortles and Manziel. My fear is the Vikes or somebody jumps to 2 takes, Bortles and then JVille takes Manziel, leaving us holding ourown junk and trying to justify taking Clowney.
If #4 QB is Carr ... then No thanks.
Well then we trade down with the Rams, and pray that Hoyer is anything close to what we hope he is.
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One option I've seen us talk about is trade our firsts, a second, and a third to move up in the draft. Now that it appears there will be 4 QBs, we could stand pat and move a 2nd for Mallett and then draft whoever is left at 4... we may even have 2 rooks to pick from if someone wants clowney bad enough. Then we have our other first and 2 3rds to continue to load up on talent.
A 2nd for Mallett? He was picked in the 3rd and has done absolutely nothing in the NFL to warrant an increase in value. I would be hard pressed to use a 3rd on him.
So ... he sat behind and watched Brady? So did Matt Cassel.
I am tired of snipping twigs from the Belichick tree and hoping it amounts to something.
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If we give up a ??? for Mallet, then at least we are only stuck for 3-4 games before the rest of the league and his weaknesses cause us to boo him out of the stadium. He wouldn't last long.
Plus, this could be the thing we use to force Jimmy's hand to get rid of Lombardi.
In two years we may be able to start a rebuilding process.
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A 2nd for Mallett? He was picked in the 3rd and has done absolutely nothing in the NFL to warrant an increase in value. I would be hard pressed to use a 3rd on him.
He's had no reported positive drug tests... that was the big worry about him coming out of school. He has also learned (presumably) NFL knowledge for the QB position.
Not advocating making the move, just pointing out where his value could have increased.
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A 2nd for Mallett? He was picked in the 3rd and has done absolutely nothing in the NFL to warrant an increase in value. I would be hard pressed to use a 3rd on him.
He's had no reported positive drug tests... that was the big worry about him coming out of school. He has also learned (presumably) NFL knowledge for the QB position.
Not advocating making the move, just pointing out where his value could have increased.
because he doesn't do drugs?
Aldon Smith has a alcohol abuse problem, and teams would give up a 2nd or even a 1st for him. why? because he is a BEAST.
i don't see how a players value can increase simply because they stayed clean. they need to show something on the field for that to happen.
we shouldn't be trying to get mallet if thats what they want. mess around and have another Flynn or Cassel on our hands.
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If we where to trade a second for Mallet then I would want to trade down with a team that covets Clowney ( provided he is still on the board at 4) such as Dallas for their 17, 47 and next years 1st. And then load up on talent. If Mallet fails we have Winston, Mariota, Petty etc. and two firsts once again to go after one of them.
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Then of course there is this little nugget that Houston is open to trading the top pick. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10238006/houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-open-trading-no-1-pick
trade the farm for Teddy. period.
no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
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We should absolutely stay at #4. One of Bridgewater, Manziel or Bortles will be there. I hope it is Manziel, but would be happy with any of the three.
If a trade happens and they go 1-2-3 (which I doubt will happen) Carr would be there or Jimmy Garoppolo later. Don't spend picks we don't need to spend. I think Manziel is the MOST likely to stud out in the NFL, but any of them could.
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Then of course there is this little nugget that Houston is open to trading the top pick. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10238006/houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-open-trading-no-1-pick
trade the farm for Teddy. period.
no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
I think Teddy will be a good QB, but not enough to sell the farm for. Manziel is a better bet IMO.
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Then of course there is this little nugget that Houston is open to trading the top pick. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10238006/houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-open-trading-no-1-pick
trade the farm for Teddy. period.
no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
I think Teddy will be a good QB, but not enough to sell the farm for. Manziel is a better bet IMO.
i don't agree. i mean, i think we should put ourselves in a position to pick either or, or at least have a shot at one, if the other is taken. so if we can't get teddy, then i'd get manziel.
i like both of them because they were good the whole season, but absolutely show'ed why they are top picks.
however, that crap manziel was pulling in the pocket, will get him absolutely killed in the nfl. i think teddy reads defenses better, and has better pocket awareness.
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Then of course there is this little nugget that Houston is open to trading the top pick. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10238006/houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-open-trading-no-1-pick
trade the farm for Teddy. period.
no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
Oh lord, here we go again with the "giving up the entire draft for one guy that you hinge your future on" talk 
When was the last time that worked out?
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Then of course there is this little nugget that Houston is open to trading the top pick. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10238006/houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-open-trading-no-1-pick
trade the farm for Teddy. period.
no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
Oh lord, here we go again with the "giving up the entire draft for one guy that you hinge your future on" talk
When was the last time that worked out?
The redskins and RG3. They made the playoffs his first year, didn't they? Then he got hurt.
Now, they have holes all over, but no draft picks to fill them.
That's the way to build a team alright. (can't count the colts, as they just sucked bad enough they didn't have to trade anything for luck)
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Then of course there is this little nugget that Houston is open to trading the top pick. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10238006/houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-open-trading-no-1-pick
trade the farm for Teddy. period.
no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
Oh lord, here we go again with the "giving up the entire draft for one guy that you hinge your future on" talk
When was the last time that worked out?
Kinda my thinking too... Swish, Damanshot beat me to this reply.
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Then of course there is this little nugget that Houston is open to trading the top pick. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10238006/houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-open-trading-no-1-pick
trade the farm for Teddy. period.
no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
Oh lord, here we go again with the "giving up the entire draft for one guy that you hinge your future on" talk
When was the last time that worked out?
Kinda my thinking too... Swish, Damanshot beat me to this reply.
ok, so when has staying where we are at or trading down every worked out?
all i'm saying is there is a guy out there that is a franchise QB, we need to do whatever we can to take him.
unlike RG3, we won't have Teddy running into harms way every play. well...thats what i hope.
why do you guys wanna settle for manziel or bortles when we have the potential to get the guy BETTER than them?
it's time our team stopped settling for players in the draft. it's also time we stopped trading down getting more picks.
because we win the draft picks game every year, unfortunately, they don't give out awards for most picks in the draft, they give awards for most WINS in a season, and we need a QB for that.
imo, i don't think manziel has what it takes, nor bortles. any one of us could be wrong, but why settle when we can attack?
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Anyone else find it funny that this situation is playing out exactly how this Draft Day movie is supposed to be? Ivan Reitman must be giggling somewhere in Hollywood.
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Then of course there is this little nugget that Houston is open to trading the top pick. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10238006/houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair-open-trading-no-1-pick
trade the farm for Teddy. period.
no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
Oh lord, here we go again with the "giving up the entire draft for one guy that you hinge your future on" talk
When was the last time that worked out?
The redskins and RG3. They made the playoffs his first year, didn't they? Then he got hurt.
Now, they have holes all over, but no draft picks to fill them.
That's the way to build a team alright. (can't count the colts, as they just sucked bad enough they didn't have to trade anything for luck)
Or am I not remembering correctly?
Then he came back and totally sucked. He is not the answer.. One year good, the next year not so good. In fact, his coach took the blame and got fired.
No, the Colts don't count. They had the first pick, used it to get their guy and that's fine with me. I don't want to give up an entire draft as was recommended in this thread. that's nuts.
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I could be wrong, but doesn't Houston need a QB? If Bridgewater is all that, why would they trade out of this spot? Are we arguing that you and the Browns are smarter than Houston?
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I could be wrong, but doesn't Houston need a QB? If Bridgewater is all that, why would they trade out of this spot? Are we arguing that you and the Browns are smarter than Houston?
i could argue that we have no idea what will happen.
we have need a QB every single draft for how long, and how many times have we taken a QB with our very 1st pick in the draft?
we always try to get bargain basement crap QB's.
houston could very well pick the BPA, which is clowney. they can definitely pull a "cleveland browns" and figure they can win with shaub or keenum.
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nobody likes Boyd out of clemson?
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Ive mentioned Boyd in past post. he reminds me of McNabb and we all know how banner feels about McNabb.
my qbs in the draft in order
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Bortles
Boyd
Murray
McCarron
if we got one of these guys I would be happy....my top 3 is who I really want. And think we should still draft Murray or McCarron later in the draft as well.
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Its funny I was just getting ready to watch the game and started thinking about how Boyd has seemingly fallen off the radar. I would love it if we got our QB without giving up picks.
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I almost feel like
McCarron in the 3rd
Boyd in the 4th
Connor Shaw in the 6th
If we went one of those directions and took 2 of the following in the 1st round...
Mike Evans
Sammy Watkins
Jace Amaro
Kelvin Benjamin (if he comes out)
Odell Beckham Jr.
Allen Robinson
Marqise Lee
we may be better off than going the route of
Bortles, Bridgewater, Manziel (though Manziel I think is the best of the bunch and a guy I would LOVE to have because I think he has a Phil Rivers type mentality that would refuse to let him fail), or Carr...
Hoyer and one or two of those drafted QBs and/or Campbell and two of those pass catchers would be really really good. Let those young guys whichever one we take sit back and learn and improve and become what we want them to become...could be a VERY talented group.
Hoyer and Evans/Watkins, Lee, and Gordon plus Baker and OGB and Dion Lewis in the backfield plus a midround pick (maybe a guy like DeAnthony Thomas or Carlos Hyde) with Cameron and Gray...
That is a LOT of playmakers that could really make us dangerous. With the ball placement that Hoyer has (in my opinion better than ANY QB coming out this year) that we could score a TON of points.
Take a guard like Cyril Richardson at OG in the 2nd...
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trade the farm for Teddy. period.
no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
So we can suck like the Redskins for another decade? No thanks.
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trade the farm for Teddy. period.
no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
I think Teddy will be a good QB, but not enough to sell the farm for. Manziel is a better bet IMO.
ya know... there is a movie about the browns trading up for the first pick in the draft... and kevin costner is in it.
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no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
So we can suck like the Redskins for another decade? No thanks.
How much would it really cost us? Both first and a third to move up three spots. They can get Johnny to fill the seats in Texas with our four and anything else a plus for them. Fair deal and I'd do it all day. Tired of not doing something like this. And we can this year! Just like Kevin Costner would!!
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trade the farm for Teddy. period.
no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
So we can suck like the Redskins for another decade? No thanks.
How much would it really cost us? Both first and a third to move up three spots. They can get Johnny to fill the seats in Texas with our four and anything else a plus for them. Fair deal and I'd do it all day. Tired of not doing something like this. And we can this year! Just like Kevin Costner would!!
No, it would cost us much more than that because those two picks that you would be surrendering would not be used to fill additional holes on the roster. When you got around to filling those spots on the roster, you'd have 5 more open up (free agency, retirement, injuries) and you would be unable to ever catch up and fill those holes with actual talented players. You would be the proverbial 'dawg' chasing it's own tail.
I swear, you guys think that you're so knowledgeable, when you're actually some of the most ignorant fans on the planet (in any sport, on any continent). I'm actually ashamed to be clumped in with you.
Let me put it to you this way, the teams that improve aren't those that have the highest selections, but use the ones that they have (and the Browns have 10 of them) the most wisely. Period.
If the Browns want to lose for another decade, they'll listen to fans like you. That's what the last regime did and it set us up for another 4-12 season this year.
If you want the dregs of the NFL laughing at your team, then the Browns should do what you suggest.
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no if's and's or but's. i'd be on the phone right now asking what they wanted for the #1 pick.
So we can suck like the Redskins for another decade? No thanks.
How much would it really cost us? Both first and a third to move up three spots. They can get Johnny to fill the seats in Texas with our four and anything else a plus for them. Fair deal and I'd do it all day. Tired of not doing something like this. And we can this year! Just like Kevin Costner would!!
No, it would cost us much more than that because those two picks that you would be surrendering would not be used to fill additional holes on the roster. When you got around to filling those spots on the roster, you'd have 5 more open up (free agency, retirement, injuries) and you would be unable to ever catch up and fill those holes with actual talented players. You would be the proverbial 'dawg' chasing it's own tail.
I swear, you guys think that you're so knowledgeable, when you're actually some of the most ignorant fans on the planet (in any sport, on any continent). I'm actually ashamed to be clumped in with you.
Let me put it to you this way, the teams that improve aren't those that have the highest selections, but use the ones that they have (and the Browns have 10 of them) the most wisely. Period.
If the Browns want to lose for another decade, they'll listen to fans like you. That's what the last regime did and it set us up for another 4-12 season this year.
If you want the dregs of the NFL laughing at your team, then the Browns should do what you suggest.
So basically trading away Trent and an extra third for a possible franchise qb is not worth it? If your happy with Johnny or our current qb situation for 15 more years, well u sir are the fan that makes us look crazy. Like the ones wanting a guard in the top half of first. We need a qb. If teddy is your guy we have the ammo and should do it without a doubt
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So basically trading away Trent and an extra third for a possible franchise qb is not worth it?
You also give up the 4th, 5th and 7th that you gave up to move up the one spot to draft Trent Richardson.
So, you would be giving up two 1sts, a 3rd, a 4th, a 5th and a 7th. That's 6 selections for one player. That's blatantly INSANE! If you approve of that, one would only be able to conclude that you are also INSANE!
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If your happy with Johnny or our current qb situation for 15 more years, well u sir are the fan that makes us look crazy.
Have I stated anything about what keeping the QB situation as it is or drafting Johnny Manziel? No, you're grasping at straws now and you're looking like a fool.
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Like the ones wanting a guard in the top half of first. We need a qb. If teddy is your guy we have the ammo and should do it without a doubt
Because you have a man-crush on him?
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Its funny I was just getting ready to watch the game and started thinking about how Boyd has seemingly fallen off the radar. I would love it if we got our QB without giving up picks.
There are pro Boyd guys on the board.
I just don't see the arm strength that they do. I've watched him 3 times this year and he throws the arched soft ball well (so does Colt), but I've never seen an NFL laser with trajectory from him. I could be wrong. But, long before tonight my point of view was that it takes forever for his ball to get there.
Do you guys think that Sammy could be as good as A.J. Green?
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Hey we need a qb. Teddy is best one in class. Ok he is not luck, but best option. I'm not hung up on what they gave for Trent by previous regime. We got a first this year for him for a reason. For ammo to get a qb.
If you have any better option to get us one please share. Don't be a politician and just bash other ideas. What you solution? Stay pat at 4 and take one? Fa? What o wise one. Sorry I'm just an idiot. What YOUR best plan?
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Hey we need a qb. Teddy is best one in class. Ok he is not luck, but best option. I'm not hung up on what they gave for Trent by previous regime. We got a first this year for him for a reason. For ammo to get a qb.
If you have any better option to get us one please share. Don't be a politician and just bash other ideas. What you solution? Stay pat at 4 and take one? Fa? What o wise one. Sorry I'm just an idiot. What YOUR best plan?
LOL. Save your breath. It's obvious that after reading this guy for the last week or so he-
1) Gives very little value to what a QB means in the NFL.
2) When he sees one, he has no idea what he's looking at.
He sounds like a Pittsburgh fan that wants us to stay bottom feeders in the AFC North as long as possible. He can justify his opinion all he wants but he's dead wrong.
We won't know until the 15th as to who declares. But this is really quite simple.
Bridgewater has declared. We will not sniff him unless we move up. If we like him, and we should since everyone else does, we need to be proactive and give Houston Both 1st rounders and 2015's 1st rounder if it takes that. If it takes another 2014 pick to seal the deal? DO IT. It's that important and we would be beyond stupid putting all our faith in a QB who has 3 starts under his belt in Hoyer. Solid back-up.
Bortles needs to declare. If we like him, and I LOVE this guy. We need to move to #2 to secure him.
Manziel needs to declare. See Bortles.
IF Mariota declares, then we can sit at 4 and take whichever falls to us if we like him. This means we need to like all 3 not named Bridgewater. No possible way he falls to 4.
You don't take chances of a QB falling to you. Too many teams in the top 7 need one.
If these guys all declare, this Front Office needs to do whatever it has to in order to secure the QB they will hitch their wagon to. If they don't, they will be riding the same train we've seen for years here and the QB merry-go-round will be the reason they are run out of town in 2 years just like the rest have been.
No QB means No Success in this league. It's not even debateable. And you cannot continually be looking at 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders hoping you find a needle in a stack. That's pure luck if you do.
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There are pro Boyd guys on the board.
Chew talkin' to me, man? 
Last year I zeroed in on Kirk Cousins as a mid-round guy I really wanted. This year it's been Boyd. He's been on my radar all year, and I've watched everything available on the guy.
For those who might be curious about him, the comparisons to McNabb are very accurate. I'm going to speak as though McNabb were still active so the verbiage and syntax works out correctly.
Though McNabb is one inch and about 15 pounds heavier, both guys have excellent escapability, very good speed, and strong arms. Both are play-makers who didn't own elite accuracy. In spite of being very capable of running for big gains, neither were run-first QB's.
So why don't I think Boyd is a sure-fire 1st rounder like Bridgewater? His offense at Clemson revolved around tons of bubble-screens and short passes, meaning there's not much to go on when comparing what he did in college to what he'll be asked to do at the pro level. While he is accurate, he doesn't have elite accuracy. Don't mistake that as saying he doesn't have enough accuracy to be an NFL starter because I believe he does. He's simply going to need more time before he's NFL-ready. As a play-maker he's going to be very good. As a passer he's got more than enough arm, though he doesn't have a cannon. He is very willing to stand in the pocket and face pressure while keeping his eyes downfield, but the offense he came from has caused his development to be slow in terms of going through progressions. There are times when he attempts to make plays that often work in college but won't in the pro's, meaning there's a learning curve there. Now people will point to Wilson and Brees and say that the wall keeping great QB's from going in the 1st round because of their size has fallen. I'm not convinced the entire league sees things that way. I think his 6'1 225 pound frame may hold him back a little.
I was hoping earlier in the year that he'd end up being a 3rd round guy who might go as high as the late 2nd because of his position, but I see Boyd as a sure 2nd rounder who might get over-drafted by someone in the late 1st.
I think some team is going to gamble on Boyd, and in a few years that gamble is going to pay off.
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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Nice. I like Boyd. I'd take him with our 2nd rounder if we decided to shore up other positions in the first round.
I'd still take one of the top three, but I don't want Bortels at #4 but am afraid that is where we might have to draft him which we probably will since Bridgewater and Manziel are doubtful top drop as far as #4.
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I live in SC and I am not a big fan of Boyd. His arm isn't nearly as strong as McNabb's. Not even close. He is a good collegiate qb who probably doesn't translate well to the NFL due to his weaker arm and erratic decision making.
My top QBs are:
--Teddy. He is the most cerebral. Putting the offense into a good play is important. Recognizing blitzes and reading coverages is huge. He gets rid of it quick and is generally very accurate. His deep ball accuracy is inconsistent.
--Manziel has moved into my second spot. His arm is stronger than people think, He makes plays. He is a good leader. He will sell tickets and merchandise because he will energize the fan base. He is pretty darn accurate. The downside is that he probably has more bust potential than traditional QBs.
--Bortles has a nice blend of size and mobility. His arm is okay. The ball sails on him at times and some of his reads are questionable.
I would not take any other qb in the first round. Fales would be my guy later in the draft.
I would not want any part of Carr. Ever.
I don't think Mariota [if he changes his mind] is even close to being ready for the NFL. He doesn't read coverages at all. Same goes for Hundley. People love them for their athleticism. They rag on Manziel, but Johnny Football is far more NFL QB ready than either of those two guys.
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My draft board would be
1) Teddy Bridgewater:
2) Johnny Manziel
3) Jadeveon Clowney: (BPA and if the Wide 9 is coming to Cleveland he sure would help the transition) with an eye towards Boyd in the 2nd.
4) Barr/Bortles
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