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RGIII asked Redskins not to show his bad plays

By Kevin Patra
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Published: Nov. 24, 2013 at 11:13 a.m.
Updated: Nov. 24, 2013 at 12:49 p.m.

Robert Griffin III and Mike Shanahan are trying to settle their differences within the Washington Redskins' facility.

The quarterback and his coach met earlier this week to try and hash out their issues after it seemed like RGIII threw the coaches under the bus when he said the Philadelphia Eagles knew what plays were coming, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Sunday on NFL Network's "NFL GameDay Morning." Rapoport said there was an "air of positivity" after the meeting.

NFL Media columnist Michael Silver reported during the segment, however, that RGIII has expressed to teammates his dissatisfaction with Shanahan.

"This could be coming to a head," Silver said. "Inside the building, we talked to people familiar with the situation, they perceive RGIII as kind of insecure, specifically about Kirk Cousins, which may be one reason he (RGIII) was so eager to rush back. At Baylor (University), they didn't put RGIII's bad plays up on the board in the meeting rooms. Sources familiar with the situation say he has asked the Redskins to do the same. They have refused to up to this point."

Shanahan responded to the report quickly Sunday.

"That's completely false. Robert wouldn't do that," Shanahan told Mike Jones of The Washington Post. Shanahan noted he doesn't pass along personal conversations, but he wanted to set the record straight after a perceived "character assassination" on Griffin.

The initial controversy this week spawned from a perception that some Redskins players wanted Griffin to take more blame for the team's struggles. A request to not be called out for poor plays would bolster the belief that there is an undercurrent of discontent within the locker room, even if every side denies it exists.

Griffin sometimes has been defensive when speaking with the media this season, and Silver's report supports the idea that it could be more than just perception.

This situation isn't going away soon, as much as Shanahan and Griffin might want it to skedaddle. At the end of the day, owner Dan Snyder will have to decide if the relationship between his franchise quarterback and his coach is salvageable, or if a divorce from Shanahan is best for all parties.

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What if they come to the conclusion that RGIII isn't going to work well with Shanahan? Do we take a chance with the Indy first round pick for RGIII or something else like a Second rounder or a 1st rounder and Weeden? Not that they'd take Weeden.

I always said I liked RG, but didn't want to give away the ship to get him. Well, giving up a 1st we got from Indy isn't horrible or a second isn't horrible either.

Anyone want him?


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What if they come to the conclusion that RGIII isn't going to work well with Shanahan?




Then they fire Shanahan.

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No doubt......RG3 is one of 5-7 QBs who are untouchable. Think for a second gentleman they just invested 3 1st round picks and a 2nd rounder a year and a half ago......no way they trade him this soon.

MS will get the ax at years end and they will hire a coach that suits RG3's abilities. Star QBs don't leave when stuff like this happens coaches and disgruntled teammates do.


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no kiddin! The coach would be fired long before RG3 would be... I could see Cousins leaving Washington before RG3.


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What if they come to the conclusion that RGIII isn't going to work well with Shanahan? Do we take a chance with the Indy first round pick for RGIII or something else like a Second rounder or a 1st rounder and Weeden? Not that they'd take Weeden.

I always said I liked RG, but didn't want to give away the ship to get him. Well, giving up a 1st we got from Indy isn't horrible or a second isn't horrible either.

Anyone want him?




As for me, I don't want him at any price. Give me the opportunity to take either Mettenberger or Carr instead.

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Hey, someone is already calling for Chud's head! Why not make this a thread.

I'd say no. The guy is damaged goods. Who knows how long his knee is going to hold up in this league.

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I too wouldn't want him. From the games I've watched, and I get that he may be rusty from no practice and etc - but wow he's been extremely inaccurate throwing around the football.

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no to RG3. he'd get murdered here in the AFC North.


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If he's that insecure with Cousins there, you think Cousins becomes available? Anyone take a chance with him?


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A 100% RG3 next year would be swell.

You'd have to give up both firsts this year plus more for him. I think they'd be crazy to trade him.


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RGIII will be fine and isn't going anywhere. He'll learn to play smarter ala Newton. Even if he would get shopped (again not happening), why in the world would anyone think he would come here? Nobody good is coming to this crap organization! The city of quitters and losers.

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RG3 has seen his best days. He's damaged goods.

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No doubt......RG3 is one of 5-7 QBs who are untouchable. Think for a second gentleman they just invested 3 1st round picks and a 2nd rounder a year and a half ago......no way they trade him this soon.

MS will get the ax at years end and they will hire a coach that suits RG3's abilities. Star QBs don't leave when stuff like this happens coaches and disgruntled teammates do.




idk... I don't think he's that great. maybe average. the injuries... I'll pass on him


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No. Both knees are shaky, and he has started to show signs of the yips.

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I'd say no. The guy is damaged goods. Who knows how long his knee is going to hold up in this league.




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It is weird. RGIII was known as a high character guy coming out of college. Now he has thrown his teammates and coaches under the bus. So not only have his durability concerns come to fruition, but his supposed high character has also come into question.

With all that said, Shanahan goes before RGIII goes. And the Redskins are really screwed, they are going to miss out on another 1st round pick that could be in the top five.

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I said it over and over last year when SO many were complaining when we didn't give up the farm for the guy...he isn't big enough to endure the beating he will take. He's Michael Vick without the character troubles. He's be electric when healthy but he won't be able to stay healthy.


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What if they come to the conclusion that RGIII isn't going to work well with Shanahan?




Then they fire Shanahan.

Is this really a thread?




Who the hell died and made you chief of what can and cannot be a thread?

Yes, it's a thread because it's NEWS.. FOOTBALL NEWS.

Don't like it, Fine, don't read it

For the record, I think they'd dump Shanahan first also


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It is weird. RGIII was known as a high character guy coming out of college. Now he has thrown his teammates and coaches under the bus. So not only have his durability concerns come to fruition, but his supposed high character has also come into question.

With all that said, Shanahan goes before RGIII goes. And the Redskins are really screwed, they are going to miss out on another 1st round pick that could be in the top five.




You know I think this is one of those instances when something small is being blown out of proportion...

RGIII I think spoke as he did because he is flustered and a competitor, I would be much more alarmed if he wasn't upset, you know like Weedon when he bombs they'll get this back where it belongs (in house) and that will be the end of it....

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no to RG3. he'd get murdered here in the AFC North.




Totally agree. After what we've seen through a year and a half, how could I not?

He's not leaving anyway, but he is showing signs of being a diva. He really didn't have that coming out of Baylor. he was the nice kid who seemed kind of nerdy and wore super hero socks. Now he's asking they don't show negative plays?

Dude this isn't Baylor. You're not breaking down Big 12 games. You're being paid. That's a bad look.

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All I know is I what highly disappointed in Shanahan last season when he continued to play RG3 after he got hurt from Ngata. It was very college coachish as in you are only here for a couple of years who cares if I damage you for life (piece of meat) . It was very uncharacteristic of him as I always thought he was a solid coach. Just looked like an act of desperation. He might have damaged RG3...I don't think he will ever run the same.

If anyone knows me I would love him here...he has unsatisfactory protection there not enough draft picks to build around him. He could become a Legend here...in Washington I think he will become a WHAT IF as in What if he remained healthy...What if they built an OL...What if he had a Gordon or a Cameron.

JMHO - if it took just ONE first rounder...do it. I'm curious how Lombardi regarded him last year before the draft? We know he didn't like the pick of Weeden.


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All I know is I what highly disappointed in Shanahan last season when he continued to play RG3 after he got hurt from Ngata. It was very college coachish as in you are only here for a couple of years who cares if I damage you for life (piece of meat) . It was very uncharacteristic of him as I always thought he was a solid coach. Just looked like an act of desperation. He might have damaged RG3...I don't think he will ever run the same.





Especially with him having Cousins on the bench, who proved to be a nice backup. I'm just as baffled.

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Especially with him having Cousins on the bench, who proved to be a nice backup. I'm just as baffled.




I'd trade for him in a second as a starter.


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No thanks, he's not the same, he blown up that same knee twice now and he's been terrible this season. So terrible that he asked the coaches not to show his bad game film to the team???

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Report: RG3 asked coaches to stop showing negative plays on film

No team attracts drama like the Washington Redskins. And the latest bit of rumored drama is a doozy, with Robert Griffin III reportedly asking coaches not to show his negative plays during film sessions.

That's the report from Mike Silver of NFL Network, who stirred up the pot Sunday by reporting that "at Baylor they didn't put RG3's bad plays up on the board in the meeting rooms. Sources familiar with the situation say they've asked the Redskins to do the same but they've refused to this point."

Mike Shanahan was asked about the report and, not surprisingly, wasn't happy about it. He called the claim from Silver "absolutely untrue," "completely false" and referred to it as "character assassination."

But wait! There's more!

Silver also reported that "inside the building when you talk to people familiar with this situation they perceive RG3 as kind of insecure especially about Kirk Cousins."

Silver said it's possible that Cousins' presence on the roster -- and RG3's reported insecurity with him -- could be why the Redskins quarterback rushed back from his ACL injury this past offseason.

But it's not all (reportedly) bad. Ian Rapoport said in the same segment that Shanahan and Griffin met "to clear the air" and that they are "working together and there is an air of positivity."

That doesn't exactly fit with the second piece of the narrative that Silver pushed, however, as he said that "RG3 has expressed to teammates his dissatisfaction with Mike Shanahan."

If RG3's unhappy with his coach it would explain why he was taking not-so-veiled shots at him during the postgame press conference after losing to the Eagles last Sunday.

The bottom line is this: Washington appears to be like a soap opera at this point. There's no telling what we might hear in advance of Monday night's matchup against the 49ers with the problems building around the Redskins.






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RGIII has been throwing Shanahan under the bus since the off-season.

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OOOoooh!!!



Let's give up three 1st round picks for him!


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In my vast football experience this stuff doesn't just make itself up. Even if they deny it, where there's smoke there's fire.

I'd give them a 3rd, maybe a 2nd for cousins though.

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They would need to give US a 1st rounder to take RG3, IMO.

Cousins.... I can't see the name written and not think of our OLine and then have little twitches start near the corner of one eye.


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Let's give up three 1st round picks for him!




and then let's beat on any poster relentlessly that disagrees. We'll show them


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No way is RGIII becoming available any time soon. The Redskins would get rid of Shanahan before Griffin. But, in this fantasy world being spoken of, I'd be willing to give up both of our 1st round picks for Griffin. I still think Griffin is a special talent who is having a sophomore slump after a bad leg injury. When he rebounds, and I fully expect him to, he will be one of the best QBs in the league for years to come. He needs to learn how to slide when he runs or else he won't last long in the league. Aside from this one poor year, I've only seen good things from him when he throws the ball. I'm willing to waive this abnormal season of poor preformance because he has been very good the rest of the time he's played (last year and in college).

I believe nobody entering the draft this year will be as good as him in the long run. If we're willing to use a 1st round pick on one of them or even trade both 1st round picks for the top spot, I see no reason to not do it for a young QB who is better in RGIII. Too often, we judge a player's ability too quickly. Because he hasn't been great this year, people have lost faith in RGIII's ability and don't think he'll be as good in the future as we all thought he'd be just 6 months ago. He's still very talented, young, dynamic, and a talent who will most likely be a franchise QB for years to come. Why would I not want that kind of player on my team? RGIII or the likes of Manziel or some other college QB who will probably be average at best? I'll take RGIII all day everyday.

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J/C. If RGIII becomes available, I'd say that in and of itself would be a huge red flag. If he's all that as a franchise QB, he wouldn't be available.


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Pass on him. Even bad, he has more than we have in Weedy. We are already an elephant graveyard for QBs and cast offs. It is pathetic that he could be an upgrade to what we have. For the right deal, maybe. I WOULD take him over Tebow in a heartbeat. And we may need somebody to finish this season given Campbell's injury.


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Media trash bucket, Not going to happen.

There is less invested in Shanahan he would go first.

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RGIII has had a pretty bad first half on Monday Night Football against 49'ers.

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Sophomore slump I guess, but RG3 does not look like someone you'd spend 3 1st's on and be happy about it.


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RGIII has had a pretty bad first half on Monday Night Football against 49'ers.




and a a second half.


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RGIII has had a pretty bad first half on Monday Night Football against 49'ers.




and a a second half.




Indeed. NFL.com calls it a "low night" for RGIII... another to add to his list of bad games. He still hasn't learned to slide either =\

As someone elegantly worded it - he'd get murdered up here in the AFC. Redskins needs to find something to get him in rhythm and pass protect a little better for him.

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RGIII has had a pretty bad first half on Monday Night Football against 49'ers.




and a a second half.




Indeed. NFL.com calls it a "low night" for RGIII... another to add to his list of bad games. He still hasn't learned to slide either =\

As someone elegantly worded it - he'd get murdered up here in the AFC. Redskins needs to find something to get him in rhythm and pass protect a little better for him.


Just curious, what makes you think he'd get murdered in the AFC more than he already does in the NFC? AFC bias, or do you believe the AFC defenses are legitimately much more vicious?

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