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I don't know any other way to interpret this verse other than there are certain things that God finds offensive, and that we should strive against. Some of these are listed in these verses. It is not only homosexual acts, but this is one thing that is specifically listed. We don't get to pick and choose what God says are sins, and what are not. If we are Christians, and believe in the Bible as God's word, then God has spoken, and we need to obey. I struggle against sins on a daily basis, and fail far more than I wish, but I try to do better, to be worthy of God's gift to me. That is how I look at it anyway. God does not require us to pay a price for forgiveness, beyond asking for it and repenting our sins.However, repenting our sins means that we should try to stop these sinful behaviors.
You mean your interpretation of someone else's interpretation. In other words, there is debate regarding the translations of what you posted above. That's fine if you want to take it as certain men interpreted this, but many of us don't. Your truth is not mine. I think some people need to keep that in mind as they act as if they are spouting off fact. It is merely your interpretation of someone else's translation of what you believe to be God's word.
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There is, however, no debate on the man's opinion, which he is free to hold.
There is also, IMO, no debate on the fact that he expressed no hatred or ill will of any kind, towards anyone.
There is also no debate on where the expressed hatred, bigotry, and intolerance is coming from.
Let somebody disagree with the "peaceful, loving, non-judgemental" types and the crap-storm of hatred and bigotry shows thru the mask quite clearly. Bunch of hypocrites, which is a nice word for lying, deceitful sacks of crap.
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We want to thank all of you for your prayers and support. The family has spent much time in prayer since learning of A&E's decision. We want you to know that first and foremost we are a family rooted in our faith in God and our belief that the Bible is His word. While some of Phil’s unfiltered comments to the reporter were coarse, his beliefs are grounded in the teachings of the Bible. Phil is a Godly man who follows what the Bible says are the greatest commandments: “Love the Lord your God with all your heart” and “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Phil would never incite or encourage hate. We are disappointed that Phil has been placed on hiatus for expressing his faith, which is his constitutionally protected right. We have had a successful working relationship with A&E but, as a family, we cannot imagine the show going forward without our patriarch at the helm. We are in discussions with A&E to see what that means for the future of Duck Dynasty. Again, thank you for your continued support of our family.
http://duckcommander.com/news/robertson-family-offical-statement
Looks like A&E may have just killed their cash cow.
I get such a kick out of this. I don't claim to be a highly religious person by any means, but it seems to me that if you believe in God and Jesus and you follow their teachings (as I interpret them) then where is the forgiveness part?
Just an odd thing I guess.
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Absolutely. I have never said anything differently. I already said I believed he should not have been suspended or fired. Whether I agree with anything he says has no bearing on what I believe the outcome should be.
The hypocrisy you speak of is most definitely on both sides of this argument, though.
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The first shot across the bow . in other words A&E will back down or else .  I hope that it leads to the Robertsons switching networks but I would wager some compromise will be met . This family is worth tens of millions of dollars so it isn't like they couldn't afford to stand on their principles and walk.
And that's really what I do like about this situation. This family is in a position they can stand on their principles and it would mean very little in a the way of hardship for them.
A&E can't simply dictate its will as they may have been able to do in some cases. I'm actually loving seeing this thing as it unfolds.
Money talks. My guess is that they will come to an agreement where everyone is allowed to save face and the money machine will be back up and rolling. These kinds of reality shows only have a certain shelf life, the network will want to squeeze a couple more years out of these guys until people lose interest.
This is really a win-win for the network and the cast. The ratings will be through the roof at the beginning of the new season.
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So I'm getting the idea that this is not a show about ducks or hunting?
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I guess my concern is more over the fact that they feel the need to do damage control. Why do you have to do damage control over someone's beliefs?
I understand they need to, but they shouldn't need to,.
Humans are Stupid. Period.
The dude said stuff and some people don't like some of the stuff he said. So, there will be rallying cries against him and the easiest way to hurt him is to take it to those who pay him, those who gave him fame and a platform to speak.... and that is A&E. A&E, of course, wants to protect it's half billion dollar golden goose - so it will play the PR game.
Basically - it boils down to a bunch of people on all sides getting their panties twisted because they can't recognize the fact that they just need to worry about themselves.
This is the type of crap we get when so much of our population has it so easy. #FirstWorldProblems #JaneGetMeOffThisCrazyThing
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I was pretty much thinking along your lines as I was out shopping last night and saw 2 woman talking about sticking up for this guy as they loaded their cart with greatly overpriced 30 dollar pillows with these guys on them and other crap from the show. I was on the phone and sorta blurted out that they do find people stupid enough to buy this crap. They may have scripted the whole thing just to get pr and sell more of their stuff.
Every time one of these situations come up, social media just blows up and people are so up in arms and I know many of the people on my social networks outside of here and for quite a few of them their lives are an absolute mess and they have way bigger issues to deal with.
And I just don't get this whole genre of reality shows anyway
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It's funny NLD, but I know nobody that is all that excited by this. one way or the other. Most just look at it for what it is. Nothing at all.
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I don't know any other way to interpret this verse other than there are certain things that God finds offensive, and that we should strive against. Some of these are listed in these verses. It is not only homosexual acts, but this is one thing that is specifically listed. We don't get to pick and choose what God says are sins, and what are not. If we are Christians, and believe in the Bible as God's word, then God has spoken, and we need to obey. I struggle against sins on a daily basis, and fail far more than I wish, but I try to do better, to be worthy of God's gift to me. That is how I look at it anyway. God does not require us to pay a price for forgiveness, beyond asking for it and repenting our sins.However, repenting our sins means that we should try to stop these sinful behaviors.
You mean your interpretation of someone else's interpretation. In other words, there is debate regarding the translations of what you posted above. That's fine if you want to take it as certain men interpreted this, but many of us don't. Your truth is not mine. I think some people need to keep that in mind as they act as if they are spouting off fact. It is merely your interpretation of someone else's translation of what you believe to be God's word.
That's fine. I am a Christian, and almost every Christian Church uses the Bible, and specifically, the New Testament, as the basis for their religion. Jesus Christ, and his Gospel, are the ground upon which most Churches are built. I cannot think of any Christian Churches that do not use the New testament, and the Gospel of Jesus Christ as their foundation. Maybe some exist, but I can't think of any off the top of my head. I'm not a religion expert though. I do know that some Churches that fall under the general banner of Christianity, like Mormons, Catholics, and such, who use their own books of the Bible that are added to the generally accepted Bible.
As a secular matter, everyone has the right to live their life as they see fit, within the laws of the nation and community in which they live. I do think that we did use a general Christian type attitude to set up our biggest laws, yet also built in protections against the overuse of any religion. As such, a gay couple has the right to live together and do as they please, just as an unmarried couple does .However, God's Law is not man's law. If we look at religious matters, then there is no allowance for modern life made just because times change. The Bible doesn't say that a man and woman should not have sex outside of marriage ...... unless it's the 21st century, and everyone else is doing it. I have been as guilty of this, and other sins, as anyone. I can assume that I have probably broken 8 of the 10 Commandments. I am incredibly lucky that I have Jesus Christ as my Savior, and that He has offered me a way out of my sin. (and death)
I do sympathize with a gay couple who truly love one another, because I cannot see how God could be opposed to 2 people truly loving one another. In the end, that will be a matter between those 2 people and God. Same thing as a couple who live together but do not get married. The Bible tells me that this is a sin. The Bible says that a gay man should set aside his desires rather than acting on them. I don't know how reasonable that is. However, this is what the Bible teaches us as God's rules for us.
I do agree that the secular side of things should allow things that I might not morally believe in, or agree with. However, that does not mean that those who believe in the Christian God, and the Bible, should just step aside and shut up. In the end, people who preach these verses are trying their best to help save a soul. Is there any greater love for another person than that? I want all of my friends to be with me in heaven when this life ends. I hope that will be the case, even if it means that there was a mis-interpretation somewhere along the way, and I was wrong. That is far better than seeing friends of mine cast out of heaven. However, all I have to deal with at this point is the Bible as written, and if we accept it as the written account of Jesus Christ's life and teachings, as I personally do, then I must accept it in its entirety, even the parts that tell me that I cannot do things that I like, and want to do. .
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This whole thing is a non issue. The Robertsons knew their lives and beliefs would be viewed under a microscope, and A&E knew what the Robertsons were all about. The outcome should surprise no one. The only people making this an issue are the media, special interest groups and political organizations. No crime was committed, no one was hurt and there are no victims. End of story. The government (both sides) is loving this publicity because it diverts attention from their own ineptness in handling the more serious problems facing them. I'm sick of this non-story being forced down my throat.
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I think you make a good point that people shouldn't care about what people say, but you need to realize that homosexuals in our country are fighting for human rights. They cannot ignore these people, they can only try to educate them so they can get their rights.
Also saying you're Christian does not give you a reason to impose on someone's rights. What if this country was highly Jewish and banned pork from being ate? It's against the law of God in the Jewish religion (Also in Christianity and Islam) and they're just trying to save people from Hell and, under your logic, should be absolved from any negative comments because they are just trying to save people. I would not force my religion/personal belief on you, just as I expect you to not force your religion/personal belief on myself.
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I never once said that I have any right to force my beliefs on anyone. However, as a Christian, I do have a responsibility to speak of Jesus Christ, especially when someone else opens up the conversation.
The laws of man can be secular in nature, and I accept that. However, what God considers sin does not change with the whims of man and his laws. God will still judge a soul guilty if he does not follow Christ. Period. No one is perfect, and one single sin is enough to lead a soul to eternal damnation. However, it is so easy to gain eternal life in glory, and that way is through Jesus Christ. To a Christian there is no greater Privledge than helping bring a lost soul to Faith and forgiveness. That doesn't mean that we should try stuffing the message of Jesus Christ down peoples' throats ..... but it does mean that we should share the good news of Jesus Christ when the subject comes up, and when asked specifically about the Bible, or Jesus.
Back to this guy on the TV program, I think that he added more than he needed to. If he wanted to use a Biblical verse, then he probably should have used it without embellishment. His preamble leading up to use of the verse was inartful at best. However, the message does not change. This is what Christians believe to be the divinely inspired Word of God. As I said, we don't have the right to pick and choose which parts of the New Testament we like, and which parts just don't fit the life we want to live. If we, as Christians, believe that this is the Word of God, and the Gospel of the Son of God, Jesus Christ, which I do believe, then I don't get to edit and add/delete to it.
I can accept that not everyone will live according to the Bible. I can accept that many will lead lives that are sinful according to the teachings of the Bible. Heck, I have been one of those living a very sinful life. I continue to sin to this day, because I am still an imperfect human being. However. I am saves because of the Grace of God. If I accept His grace, then I also have to do what He requires of me. I try my best to do so. That means that I am not living with a woman out of wedlock, for example, as I have done in the past. However, not everyone will follow the teachings of Christ, or the Bible. That is their right, We all have free will. We all make our own choices as to our actions and thoughts. That is our right as human beings living upon the earth. If we were a different majority, then there might be different laws. Obviously we have to follow the laws man sets, or face the penalties those laws set. That is our choice. Similarly, God has set a path to salvation, and we can choose either to follow that path, or not. It is our decision, one made individually, by each one of us. I do feel that I have a responsibility to share the Good news of Jesus Christ when asked about him, or when the topic comes up. I do not feel that I am forcing my beliefs on anyone. Similarly, the guy who did this interview shared his beliefs. No one is forced to listen to him. No one is forced to agree with him. However, he was asked a question, and he answered it. That is his right. If you do not agree with his views, then you are free to ignore him. I have to ignore a lot of people on a daily basis whose beliefs I disagree vehemently with. It is their right to express their beliefs, and my right to ignore them, or disagree and explain why I disagree.
If my beliefs are right, and the New Testament is the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and Jesus is the So of God, and He is the way to salvation ...... all of which I believe to be true ,,,,,, then what kind of friend would I be if I casually allow my friends to suffer eternal damnation because I refuse to share my beliefs when asked, or when the subject is raised? I would be a pretty poor friend. Everyone has the right to live their lives as they see fit, within the laws of man, but eternal life is subject to the laws of God. That is my belief. I want all of my friends to join me in eternal life, and I hope that all of my friends will do so. However, the Bible tells me that there is only one way for that to happen, for all of us, so I want my friends to know what that way is. I am not shoving my beliefs down anyone's throat, but I am sharing what I believe with all of my being to be true. You have the right to listen, or ignore what I say, just as is true with anyone.
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JC, I don't think many Gays or Liberals watch a show like this. I watch it because I think its a good lighthearted family show My family and I enjoy its humor , the Brothers always teasing each other, Mom & Dad in the kitchen together. I think the Robertsons will be ok., Maybe not on A&E maybe on another smarter channel.
Bill Maher & MSNBC offend me all the time but I don't demand they get fired or try to set up boycotts. Maybe these Liberal groups should practice what they preach. I thought they were all for diversity of ideas and everybody getting along. The whole thing is a joke. Libs just hate it that some people don't love Gays Blacks Moslums or whatever. Perhaps we don't agree with them but do we have the right to take away their livelihood?
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I think you make a good point that people shouldn't care about what people say, but you need to realize that homosexuals in our country are fighting for human rights. They cannot ignore these people, they can only try to educate them so they can get their rights.
How did anything he said impose on anyone's rights? He spoke of his personal religious beliefs and that's all. Many Christians share those beliefs.
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Also saying you're Christian does not give you a reason to impose on someone's rights. What if this country was highly Jewish and banned pork from being ate? It's against the law of God in the Jewish religion (Also in Christianity and Islam) and they're just trying to save people from Hell and, under your logic, should be absolved from any negative comments because they are just trying to save people. I would not force my religion/personal belief on you, just as I expect you to not force your religion/personal belief on myself.
Being absolved? Or being persecuted? Those are the two extremes here. I don't see how honestly answering questions about your religious beliefs deserves persecution. Everyone has a choice in their own mind whether or not to absolve his comments. But it seems you advocate persecuting him for his comments.
Everyone who watches the show that disagrees with him has the right to stop watching his show. They have a right not to buy their products. But he said nothing to make any attempt to "step on anyone's rights" here. He said nothing about taking rights away from the gay community.
So your "banning pork" analogy holds no merit here.
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And then you have what country music did to the Dixie chicks by refusing to play their music anymore when they spoke out about Bush.
As Jules pointed out, it's a two way street.
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I think you make a good point that people shouldn't care about what people say, but you need to realize that homosexuals in our country are fighting for human rights. They cannot ignore these people, they can only try to educate them so they can get their rights.
How did anything he said impose on anyone's rights? He spoke of his personal religious beliefs and that's all. Many Christians share those beliefs.
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Also saying you're Christian does not give you a reason to impose on someone's rights. What if this country was highly Jewish and banned pork from being ate? It's against the law of God in the Jewish religion (Also in Christianity and Islam) and they're just trying to save people from Hell and, under your logic, should be absolved from any negative comments because they are just trying to save people. I would not force my religion/personal belief on you, just as I expect you to not force your religion/personal belief on myself.
Being absolved? Or being persecuted? Those are the two extremes here. I don't see how honestly answering questions about your religious beliefs deserves persecution. Everyone has a choice in their own mind whether or not to absolve his comments. But it seems you advocate persecuting him for his comments.
Everyone who watches the show that disagrees with him has the right to stop watching his show. They have a right not to buy their products. But he said nothing to make any attempt to "step on anyone's rights" here. He said nothing about taking rights away from the gay community.
So your "banning pork" analogy holds no merit here.
Agreed.
I do think his "pork" analogy was foolish on a base level.......however, I think his over riding point was that the "right" to get married is not extended to homosexuals in every state. (and consequently, the rights that married couples have - like losing half of your stuff if you get divorced.  As well as some insurances, tax things.....)
Regardless - Phil didn't attack any person. He didn't even attack gays. He simply said what he said, according to his interpretation of the written word. No biggy. Hardly anything to get upset about.
If he were demanding gays, or drunks, or prostitutes, etc....lose their jobs, and/or go to jail, or lose voting rights, etc.......well, then he would've crossed the line.
No rights have been or were taken away from anyone over this. That's the micro of it. The macro is gays feel their right to be married is being infringed.
Religious "marriage" vs. "gov't." marriage is what has some people upset, I think.
On a side note: I'm offended by what some people post on this site. That's my right.
That doesn't mean I go to prp and demand they get booted off the site.
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What I'm trying to say - in a terribly inept manner, I know, is: There are several things going on, but all at the same time.
Phil can say or think as he wants to. Period. That's the small picture.
The big picture is some individuals or groups feel it will help their cause if they make the small picture a "bigger picture".....i.e., gays feel their "right" to marriage is being denied in some (most?) states.
Religious marriage vs. gov't. marriage, for lack of a better term.
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Where did anyone try to impose on anyone's rights? He said he believes it's wrong and a sin. Not once were anyone's rights even mentioned
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I think you make a good point that people shouldn't care about what people say, but you need to realize that homosexuals in our country are fighting for human rights. They cannot ignore these people, they can only try to educate them so they can get their rights.
How did anything he said impose on anyone's rights? He spoke of his personal religious beliefs and that's all. Many Christians share those beliefs.
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Also saying you're Christian does not give you a reason to impose on someone's rights. What if this country was highly Jewish and banned pork from being ate? It's against the law of God in the Jewish religion (Also in Christianity and Islam) and they're just trying to save people from Hell and, under your logic, should be absolved from any negative comments because they are just trying to save people. I would not force my religion/personal belief on you, just as I expect you to not force your religion/personal belief on myself.
Being absolved? Or being persecuted? Those are the two extremes here. I don't see how honestly answering questions about your religious beliefs deserves persecution. Everyone has a choice in their own mind whether or not to absolve his comments. But it seems you advocate persecuting him for his comments.
Everyone who watches the show that disagrees with him has the right to stop watching his show. They have a right not to buy their products. But he said nothing to make any attempt to "step on anyone's rights" here. He said nothing about taking rights away from the gay community.
So your "banning pork" analogy holds no merit here.
I'm not persecuting him. I'm highlighting him as an example. Homosexuals in this country cannot be married while heterosexuals can. This goes against everything this country stands for, but people support it because that's what they believe God's will is.
Christians are not allowed to eat Pork under the laws of the old testament. The old testament holds many laws that needed to be followed to get into Heaven according to Christians (These are the same laws that ban homosexuality, working on the sabbath, planting different crops next to each other, wearing garments made from two different threads.) but these laws are ignored because God made a new covenant with the people through Jesus Christ. That's at least one school of thought though. But why do you focus on homosexuality in the OT while ignoring the other laws God made?
I just want to stress that I don't care about Phil as a human being or his views. Here I am talking about the view that he shares with a minority group that believes gays should not be able to be married. I'm strictly talking about the rights of homosexuals and not this man's personal problems with his employer.
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I'm not persecuting him. I'm highlighting him as an example. Homosexuals in this country cannot be married while heterosexuals can. This goes against everything this country stands for, but people support it because that's what they believe God's will is.
Which once again I see no correlation between one man stating his religious views having an impact on gay marriage. So would that be an indication that if someone asks you about your religious views, that you should lie or avoid giving an honest answer?
And while I'm not saying you advocate persecution, that is what's happening here based on a man giving his honest religious beliefs when asked to do so. So my point is, those who oppose him stating his religious views do propose persecution when someone is outspoken whom they disagree with.
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Christians are not allowed to eat Pork under the laws of the old testament. The old testament holds many laws that needed to be followed to get into Heaven according to Christians (These are the same laws that ban homosexuality, working on the sabbath, planting different crops next to each other, wearing garments made from two different threads.) but these laws are ignored because God made a new covenant with the people through Jesus Christ. That's at least one school of thought though. But why do you focus on homosexuality in the OT while ignoring the other laws God made?
I believe if you look back in this thread, you'll see quotes from Corinthians on this subject which is in the New Testament, not the Old Testament.
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I just want to stress that I don't care about Phil as a human being or his views. Here I am talking about the view that he shares with a minority group that believes gays should not be able to be married. I'm strictly talking about the rights of homosexuals and not this man's personal problems with his employer.
Where did he say gays shouldn't be allowed to get married? There are many who believe that gay marriage and the gay lifestyle are wrong. Yet they also believe according to the Bible, that such things are not for them to judge.
I saw nothing in that interview that even suggested that gays should not be allowed to marry. I saw him say in his view and according to his beliefs, that being gay was a sin.
That infringes upon nobody.
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SFAIK, he did not mention gay marriage in any way, shape, or form. He did not intrude himself onto anyone's private lives.
You are making things up out of thin air, creating something to be outraged about or offended over when there is nothing of the sort going on.
It's OK that some people disagree with you. That does not make them wrong, or to be ignored. It is what it is.
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As someone else said, and I fully agree with. If it's wrong to say you are against the gay lifestyle then it is also wrong to say you support the gay lifestyle.
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I think you make a good point that people shouldn't care about what people say, but you need to realize that homosexuals in our country are fighting for human rights. They cannot ignore these people, they can only try to educate them so they can get their rights.
How did anything he said impose on anyone's rights? He spoke of his personal religious beliefs and that's all. Many Christians share those beliefs.
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Also saying you're Christian does not give you a reason to impose on someone's rights. What if this country was highly Jewish and banned pork from being ate? It's against the law of God in the Jewish religion (Also in Christianity and Islam) and they're just trying to save people from Hell and, under your logic, should be absolved from any negative comments because they are just trying to save people. I would not force my religion/personal belief on you, just as I expect you to not force your religion/personal belief on myself.
Being absolved? Or being persecuted? Those are the two extremes here. I don't see how honestly answering questions about your religious beliefs deserves persecution. Everyone has a choice in their own mind whether or not to absolve his comments. But it seems you advocate persecuting him for his comments.
Everyone who watches the show that disagrees with him has the right to stop watching his show. They have a right not to buy their products. But he said nothing to make any attempt to "step on anyone's rights" here. He said nothing about taking rights away from the gay community.
So your "banning pork" analogy holds no merit here.
I'm not persecuting him. I'm highlighting him as an example. Homosexuals in this country cannot be married while heterosexuals can. This goes against everything this country stands for, but people support it because that's what they believe God's will is.
Christians are not allowed to eat Pork under the laws of the old testament. The old testament holds many laws that needed to be followed to get into Heaven according to Christians (These are the same laws that ban homosexuality, working on the sabbath, planting different crops next to each other, wearing garments made from two different threads.) but these laws are ignored because God made a new covenant with the people through Jesus Christ. That's at least one school of thought though. But why do you focus on homosexuality in the OT while ignoring the other laws God made?
I just want to stress that I don't care about Phil as a human being or his views. Here I am talking about the view that he shares with a minority group that believes gays should not be able to be married. I'm strictly talking about the rights of homosexuals and not this man's personal problems with his employer.
dude may I say you have no idea what you are talking about!! Jewish people are not allowed to eat pork due to the laws of the old testament. Jews are not Christians. Christians are those that believe in Christ. Jews don't believe in Christ. At least Jesus Christ. The New Testament is the Testament the Christian follows. Every time someone brings up a subject such as this someone comes on here saying things they have no idea what they're saying
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j/c Cracker Barrel pulls Duck Dynasty products. http://tv.yahoo.com/news/cracker-barrel-pulls-duck-dynasty-products-190130045.htmlBut I'm not sure what that means? According to the article, A&E owns the rights to Duck Dynasty products. Cracker Barrel is pulling some of those, but, in the article, it states they will still sell Duck Commander products (Duck Commander is owned by the Robertson family...........) So, is Cracker Barrel dissing the Robertson family by dumping Ducky Dynasty products? Or is it dissing A&E by still selling Duck Commander products? I'm not sure............opinions? (I only read about 4 pages of the comments from this article........)
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Sounds like they are coming out in favor of the Robertsons.
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Sounds like they are coming out in favor of the Robertsons.
I must say, at first I thought it was against the Robertson's...........but then I wondered if it was against A&E............and I'm still not sure.
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The headline would lead you to believe one thing...............the actual article makes me wonder.
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As someone else said, and I fully agree with. If it's wrong to say you are against the gay lifestyle then it is also wrong to say you support the gay lifestyle.
This takes the cake...this maybe the most asinine, inane comment I have ever seen on this message board. You sir should win a prize. Let's see where I can go with this...
If it's wrong to say you are against the Jim Crow laws then it is also wrong to say you support Jim Crow Laws.
If it's wrong to say you are support Slavery then it is also wrong to say you are against Slavery
If it's wrong to say you are against Nazis then it is also wrong to say you support Nazis
If it's wrong to say you are against the United States then it is also wrong to say you support The United States
If it's wrong to say you are against the Troops then it is also wrong to say you support the Troops
Need I go on? Certainly everyone has the right to an opinion but it doesn't mean the person isn't an old homphobe and racist, two qualities that are never endearing no matter how old, rich, or intelligent a person is.
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Going by the 'if it it wrong to X, then it is wrong to Z' (which I agree is one of the best pieces of backwards thinking I've seen in ages), then the 'Everything Else' forum shouldn't exist. 
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Hey A&E grow a pair will you. So this guy thinks being gay is wrong...... so what. If he thought their was nothing wrong with being gay so what. It's one mans opinion, and he has the right to his opinion be it right or wrong in my opinion lol. Man I am so sick of people with such thin skin. We have turned into a nations of kitty cats.
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Hey A&E grow a pair will you. So this guy thinks being gay is wrong...... so what. If he thought their was nothing wrong with being gay so what. It's one mans opinion, and he has the right to his opinion be it right or wrong in my opinion lol. Man I am so sick of people with such thin skin. We have turned into a nations of kitty cats.
Damn you GM. We had a good deadbate going on and you have to throw reason into the fray.. STOP IT will ya
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As someone else said, and I fully agree with. If it's wrong to say you are against the gay lifestyle then it is also wrong to say you support the gay lifestyle.
This takes the cake...this maybe the most asinine, inane comment I have ever seen on this message board. You sir should win a prize. Let's see where I can go with this...
If it's wrong to say you are against the Jim Crow laws then it is also wrong to say you support Jim Crow Laws.
If it's wrong to say you are support Slavery then it is also wrong to say you are against Slavery
If it's wrong to say you are against Nazis then it is also wrong to say you support Nazis
If it's wrong to say you are against the United States then it is also wrong to say you support The United States
If it's wrong to say you are against the Troops then it is also wrong to say you support the Troops
Need I go on? Certainly everyone has the right to an opinion but it doesn't mean the person isn't an old homphobe and racist, two qualities that are never endearing no matter how old, rich, or intelligent a person is.
what I'm saying is you're not a homophobic or bigget if you express you belief that being gay is wrong... Anyone that has seen anything I've posted before knows I believe the Bible is the complete, inspired word of God. I believe Murder, Adultery, Stealing, Homosexual, Lying and everything else to be a sin. If I say to kill someone is wrong it would make me a bigget by the fact you say it's being a bigget for me to say being gay is wrong
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Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
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So what I'm saying is if I can't say being Gay is wrong in a magazine or on TV then you or anyone else should not be allowed to go TV or in a magazine and say it's OK. And regardless of what you may believe you're wrong. It's the same thing. If I can't tell you I believe it's wrong you shouldn't be able to tell me it's right
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A&E will fold, especially since it looks like the robertson clan just basically told them we won't film another episode without him. Theres not a single scenario where i think A&E wins this, and the Robertsons will still win any way it happens. Either by A&E reversing, or they just move to another network.
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A&E will fold, especially since it looks like the robertson clan just basically told them we won't film another episode without him. Theres not a single scenario where i think A&E wins this, and the Robertsons will still win any way it happens. Either by A&E reversing, or they just move to another network.
I agree.
I'm not saying people should agree with my views. I do have strong conservative views. I just can't stand when something like this happens and the first thing someone says that is against the view the person has is that the person is a Bigget or Homophobic. I am not judging the person for being Gay but simply saying the Bible says it's wrong the same as murder is wrong
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Just clicking Why the hell do any of us care what the hell Phil Robertson had to say? he's allowed to say it, and his employer is allowed to not like it and take action they deem appropriate. And another thing, can someone tell me why he's being interviewed for GQ. I mean, it's certainly not for his Fashion forward sense or intellectual insights.
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j/c Apparently Cracker Barrel has changed it's mind. Only 2 days later, they're returning Duck Dynasty stuff to their money making machine. http://gma.yahoo.com/cracker-barrel-flip...topstories.htmlFollow the money people. A&E will do so soon as well. It's neat and good and well to take up some p.c. stuff.....right up until it costs people money. Not saying I agree with it, or disagree........but just follow the money. I was checking out Cracker Barrels site friday night........the number of people saying "CB can do what they want, but we won't be going back there" was HUGE. Yup, this situation will be decided by money......not what "should be" or "could be".
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You do realize that you just said murder is a sin, and then posted a Bible quote which calls for the murder of homosexuals, right? 
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If you are talking about the verse from Romans, I believe that verse is talking about eternal death, not killing someone.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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People should be ostracized for passing hateful judgments on groups of people that are based on some objectively quantifiable trait like skin color or ethnicity or sexual preference. It's archaic, backwards thinking that more often than not is rooted in fear and/or ignorance, and it serves no useful purpose.
Archaic like ostracizing people for having a different view or belief? Yes persecution for religious beliefs serves a useful purpose. /sarcasm
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If you are talking about the verse from Romans, I believe that verse is talking about eternal death, not killing someone.
that is what it means but this is the way people read these scriptures. They read what they want to read having no idea what they're reading. It doesn't say we are to kill anyone and we also are not to punish persa, Homosexuals.
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