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Ken Whisenhunt to coach Titans
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Ken Whisenhunt has accepted an offer to become the next coach of the Tennessee Titans, which has left the Detroit Lions focusing more closely on Jim Caldwell as a leading candidate for their vacancy, according to league sources.
 
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He had a pretty good record when he had Kurt Warner as a QB. Fell to dust when they could not find a suitable replacement.
The guy went 8-8 with Kevin Kolb and John Skelton splitting starts... Skelton actually went 6-2 to finish the season... We should be lucky enough to fall to dust like that. 
and it ended up getting him fired, but 8-8 would be an improvement for us.. But it's not where any of us want to be.
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Ken Whisenhunt to coach Titans
Updated: January 13, 2014, 6:21 PM ET
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Ken Whisenhunt has accepted an offer to become the next coach of the Tennessee Titans, which has left the Detroit Lions focusing more closely on Jim Caldwell as a leading candidate for their vacancy, according to league sources.
Thats disappointing. I'd not mind him here at all
Had some reservations at first but the more I looked, the more I liked.. Bummer
Maybe the reports of the OC from Denver are true.
Anyway, I just think that Munchak is a mistake to even interview, unless they are doing what they did last year, that is interview Horton for HC then hire him as DC.
Maybe M can be the line coach.
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You and CHS totally missed the point. LMAO
Can't say I am surprised.
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Some predictions:
Every guy that gets hired somewhere else will be great and we messed up by not hiring him.
The guy we do hire will be a bum.
Funny how guys aren't sold on a guy until he gets hired somewhere else.
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Contract =/= a job though. A bad move can ruin your career and people are getting a bad idea about coaching here because it sounds like they don't have control of the team.
Once you get in to the club, you are in the club.
Plus, you have the cash to not worry ever again. Trust me, once you havve about 3-4 mil stashed away, you don't have many worries unless you didn't earn it and just spend money for the sake of spending it.
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That's a tad bit surprising. Wonder if Detroit goes after Gase....
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Billick has made it known in the past that he wants power and money. Teams are not willing to give him either. Cushy jobs in the booth are hard to give up, especially when you are 60 years old.
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Detroit is said to be going after Jim Caldwell. God help them.
If we hired Caldwell that might be have been, "This is the last straw" moment.
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I wouldn't.....
Two reasons: 1, I'm not qualified and 2, I don't trust the FO
But, there is one reason to take it.. MONEY.. If they paid me a million to take that job, I'd do it for a year. 
So, then you WOULD take the job. And you'd come cheap too!
Nope,, wouldn't.. I don't want the headaches.. And I don't want to work for people I don't trust.. Right now, I don't trust this front office.
What am I missing here?
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You are missing that someone has on overinflated opinion of himself.
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If I'm Haslam, I wait until the Donks are done, then offer the job to Peyton Manning, with a $7M/yr contract laden with incentives. Bring in one of the hardest working, brightest football minds and be done with it.
The next thing I do is fire the two douche bags that got me into this mess and hire Omar Khan to run the personnel department and promote Alec Scheiner to run operations.
Then I get the hell out of the way for at least two years. I know it sounds insane, but go big or go home. And what the hell do we have to lose anyway?
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Yep, lot's of that going on around here. 
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Peyton Manning made something like $20 million in 2013 just off his contract with the Broncos.
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i still think we screwed up by not trying to push hard for lovie smith. i really wanted that guy to be our new HC.
our credibility would've been instantly back. all well.
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Tell me.............how did they get us into this mess? Are you forgetting the drafting of Weeden? How about trading up for TRich? Schwartz? Hadesty? Cutting Mike Adams for Young? The great Jamie Mitchell? Passing on guys like Earl Thomas and taking Haden? Not going after free agents who could help the team? But wait................the new guys get better picks in a stronger draft and trade a dud RB for a first round choice and then fire a coach who was 1 and 10 down the stretch AND had a worse record than the idiot Shurmur....................and THEY got us into this mess?  Just stop! You guys are making crap up w/out facts to support your rants. This so reminds me of when the idiots hated on Belichick. The guy is an idiot. He is a loser. He will never win. He is clueless. He is making a mockery of the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, good call guys. He will probably go down as the greatest coach of all-time.
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Makes sense to me....I assume the guy has a family. Sorry, Detroit would be about the last place I'd go....Cleveland next....Nashville....that's a great town.
That's quite true. What some folks aren't considering is the economic climate of these places.
The City of Detroit just filed bankruptcy. It has decomposing structures and infrastructure and literally can't keep the lights on.
The City of Cleveland has more to offer than Detroit. It has the Rock 'n Roll HOF (adjacent to the stadium), The Flats, the Football HOF is a short drive down I-77, and a national park, plus the 'Patrick Henry University'. 
Nashville is the home to Country Music, is in the middle of a state with no income tax, mountains at one end of the state and a huge river at the other end and all the whiskey he could ever want. 
There are factors, outside of football, that will help to make candidates make these choices.
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Tell me.............how did they get us into this mess?
For the draft we are set up beautifully because of the work Lombardi and Banner did last off-season. One of the things they did to set us up beautifully for the draft was hiring a dud of a head coach (according to them).
The current mess we are in (no coach, no inspiring candidates as of yet) is the fault of new guys. They either hired the wrong coach (which it seems like is their answer) or they fired a coach that should not have been fired. Either way they crapped the bed.
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Please, CalDawg. Please, EVERYONE. Don't answer Vers. I am so sick of this endless, Groundhog-Day-like front office debate. What the heck good is finger pointing and bickering (NON STOP) doing for our threads???
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Okay, I will buy that.
They did make a mistake. Either in firing him or by hiring him.
For that one move, we should call them stooges and buffoons?
We should ignore the positive moves?
We should say that they all should be fired and/or put in jail?
Sorry man...............too many people are being unreasonable.
And I will fight all y'all tooth and nail on it.
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Please, CalDawg. Please, EVERYONE. Don't answer Vers. I am so sick of this endless, Groundhog-Day-like front office debate. What the heck good is finger pointing and bickering (NON STOP) doing for our threads???
Let me see if I interpreted this correctly: Because I don't agree that the FO are buffoons or stooges based off of one move, I should be ignored and we should not debate the issue?
It's either agree w/the masses or be an outcast? Is that what you are saying?
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The most important decision Banner and the his friends have had to make so far is to hire a head coach. Not only did they screw up, but they screwed up bad enough that they had to fire the dude after only one year. I think it is fair to call them stooges for missing that badly on their most important decision. It is also fair to wait and see.
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Okay, I will buy that.
They did make a mistake. Either in firing him or by hiring him.
For that one move, we should call them stooges and buffoons?
We should ignore the positive moves?
We should say that they all should be fired and/or put in jail?
Sorry man...............too many people are being unreasonable.
And I will fight all y'all tooth and nail on it.
For what it's worth, I'll stand next to you and fight. (...and I fight dirty. I'll metaphorically punch a girl in the mouth if she deserves it.)
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Okay, I will buy that.
They did make a mistake. Either in firing him or by hiring him.
For that one move, we should call them stooges and buffoons?
We should ignore the positive moves?
We should say that they all should be fired and/or put in jail?
Sorry man...............too many people are being unreasonable.
And I will fight all y'all tooth and nail on it.
It's more than one mistake. Also, getting more draft picks doesn't equate to a better move, but does give a chance for a better move. If we draft someone who is as useless as TRich is with that pick, it's no longer a win. Same goes with the other picks.
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anybody else notice on all the sports media websites, they are all talking about how the titans hire effects the lions?
like the browns don't even exist...man.
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anybody else notice on all the sports media websites, they are all talking about how the titans hire effects the lions?
like the browns don't even exist...man.
And we should care because...?
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because once again, we are being treated like our organization doesn't matter.
i hate when our team gets disrespected. i dunno about you, but i love my team.
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The most important decision Banner and the his friends have had to make so far is to hire a head coach. Not only did they screw up, but they screwed up bad enough that they had to fire the dude after only one year. I think it is fair to call them stooges for missing that badly on their most important decision. It is also fair to wait and see.
Oh, I completely disagree w/this.
I think the most important decision they made is to position themselves to get a top flight QB in this upcoming draft, where there are 3 quality QBs available.
Look, I am NOT proclaiming them as geniuses. They made some good moves. They made some bad moves. They made some questionable moves. It's way too freaking early to tell.
The only reason I am arguing so vehemently is because I despise this mob mentality. I despise all the lies that are being told. I despise how people are ignoring some articles and pouncing on others. It's like a riot. Lack of character and education run rampart through the streets of civilization. Their protests are an excuse to behave badly.
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Please, CalDawg. Please, EVERYONE. Don't answer Vers. I am so sick of this endless, Groundhog-Day-like front office debate. What the heck good is finger pointing and bickering (NON STOP) doing for our threads???
Let me see if I interpreted this correctly: Because I don't agree that the FO are buffoons or stooges based off of one move, I should be ignored and we should not debate the issue?
It's either agree w/the masses or be an outcast? Is that what you are saying?
No.
I'm saying these debates, which ALWAYS seem to get heated, just clog up the threads. They should be designated to some "Haslam/Banner/Lombardi" thread & not brought up in EVERY thread in 'Pure Football.'
Everybody deserves a chance to debate their opinion, but I don't want to wade through hip deep arguments over the front office while I'm looking for discussion and news about our search for a new head coach.
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Okay, I will buy that.
They did make a mistake. Either in firing him or by hiring him.
For that one move, we should call them stooges and buffoons?
We should ignore the positive moves?
We should say that they all should be fired and/or put in jail?
Sorry man...............too many people are being unreasonable.
And I will fight all y'all tooth and nail on it.
It's more than one mistake. Also, getting more draft picks doesn't equate to a better move, but does give a chance for a better move. If we draft someone who is as useless as TRich is with that pick, it's no longer a win. Same goes with the other picks.
Right. They should have been able to scalp a team for an additional 4th, 5th & 7th rounder in exchange for Richardson. 
Nobody is looking back at Holmgren & Heckert and asking what players were available with the additional picks that the Browns gave up in that trade with Minnesota.
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So let me get this straight. You think all these people questioning the FO for acting like the stooges they appear to be are off their freaking rocker because everybody knows you can't judge a FO in just one calendar year.
That's just compelling and rich considering those complaining are pissed that the FO did the very thing you're saying we're stupid for doing, yet you defend the FO and "fight us tooth and nail".
It became fair to treat them this way when they decided that was the standard for this "organization".
As for our next head coach. Does it even matter at this point?
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that it's just an unknown and can't be put in the win column yet.
Also, I did that a bit. I still think we got took on that Richardson trade. IIRC the team that was threatening to move up already had a good RB.
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Let me set you straight.
I think you are off your rocker because you have very little evidence to support your claim that these guys are stooges and buffoons.
I think hate is fueling your argument.
I think you are full of crap.
Does that help set you straight?
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because once again, we are being treated like our organization doesn't matter.
i hate when our team gets disrespected. i dunno about you, but i love my team.
Okay, but I don't care what the media says about the Browns. Respect? Alternating between 4-12 and 5-11 seasons isn't going to earn you much respect. Just win the football games.
If we've learned anything about this new owner, 4-12 and 5-11 isn't going to be sufficient to keep your job.
I think that Haslam should make the next contract with a HC a conditional one. Win 4 or 5 games and you will be fired. You won't get another season and you won't get paid another dime. Win 6 or 7 games and you get another season. Win 8 or more and you get bonuses and two additional seasons. Make the playoffs and you get a bonus equal to 50% of your salary in addition to the other bonuses and you get a 5-year contract extension at the 50% increase in pay being the new base with the same conditions. Each successive year would have the same conditions as the previous (extension years being exceptions).
Incentive-laden the contracts of the coaches as well. No more multi-year payouts for non-producing coaches. The only 'guaranteed' year would be the first.
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Let me set you straight.
I think you are off your rocker because you have very little evidence to support your claim that these guys are stooges and buffoons.
I think hate is fueling your argument.
I think you are full of crap.
Does that help set you straight?
They've straight up lied to our faces on multiple occasions. They punted this year via draft/FA/trades and then gave the coaching staff 11 months before firing them. That's all the evidence I need.
I have no "hate" toward any of these guys. I think they're bumbling idiots who have exactly 0 track record of success when it comes to running an NFL football franchise but it doesn't mean I hate them.
I judge each regime and FO on their own merits. Holmgren was a legit terrible choice and I said so from the word go despite what most thought. Head coach? Sure. Front office guy? Terrible. Then again basically every decision Lerner made was idiotic. The Shurmur hire was flat out tragic. He never deserved the shot and I was glad to see him gone.
I had hope for Banner, though I wasn't going to hold my breath. The hiring of Chud was "meh". What has transpired in the last 10ish months has sealed their fate for me though. Not hatred. Not some agenda based on previous regimes. Just their own incompetence.
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I agree Punch......I think most who complain are just that....complainers.....something is always wrong.
The team sucks, so I am not going to go to games. My meal at Logans wasn't as good as Ruth's Chris, so I will stiff the waitress, and Ruth's Chris is overpriced, so I will stiff them as well.
It is what it is.
If you meal sucks at Logan's, don't stiff the wait staff, ever... but why would you keep going back and handing your money to the owner there if every single time you eat there it is not an enjoyable meal? You can find environment and ambiance anywhere, but if the meal blows, why eat there?
Browns is the Browns
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that it's just an unknown and can't be put in the win column yet.
Getting the opportunity to select two players in the first round is a 'win column' scenario for what Richardson proved to be.
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Also, I did that a bit. I still think we got took on that Richardson trade. IIRC the team that was threatening to move up already had a good RB.
What team was that exactly? All I know is that the Browns were in the exact same spot they are now (#4) and got taken by the Vikings to move up one spot (#3) to select a RB. Minnesota already had Adrian Peterson and weren't going to select Richardson in any case.
The team that the Vikings were suggesting were moving up was 'Tampa Bay' which selected Doug Martin later in the first round (giving up draft position to acquire the pick) but kept their total number of selections.
Martin got injured this season and missed more than half the season. Still, in his rookie season, he was more productive than Richardson in both his seasons combined.
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