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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Gase
Now that's funny! That's why I never let my students use Wikipedia as a source for anything. (It's also why I take any post on here with Wiki as a source with a huge grain of salt.)
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You may be right, but whoever the Browns hire, they will spin this into it being their guy all along. It's stupid politics.
Especially after last year when they had egg on their face after not closing the deal with Chip Kelly.
I know nothing of this Gase guy, but I'd like to learn more. I just hope this isn't a "well Denver's good, so let's interview their OC" type play. I knew nothing of the guy before this season.
This guy could be the next great coach for all we know. Peyton being his QB doesn't somehow mean he doesn't know anything...
For the love of God though, get this guy, or whoever it is, a damn quarterback so we don't have to do this again. So tired of it.
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For the love of God though, get this guy, or whoever it is, a damn quarterback so we don't have to do this again. So tired of it.
Abso-freaking-lutely!
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Now that's funny! That's why I never let my students use Wikipedia as a source for anything. (It's also why I take any post on here with Wiki as a source with a huge grain of salt.)
If you hurry up and look at the Browns wiki, it lists Tressel as the coach, haha.
Wikipedia should always be used as a guideline. 95% of it is good stuff, the rest is either inaccurate/opinion or people making jokes.
You can't cite it as a source, but it's always a good starting point, you can cite the articles (usually) that are referenced at the bottom.
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If you hurry up and look at the Browns wiki, it lists Tressel as the coach, haha.
It's good that we have some humor sprinkled in with all the craziness that is the Browns' off season!
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It is now listed as "Open"
They can't make it official until he decides whether he's going to wear a brown or orange sweater to his introductory press conference!
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Thought this was an interesting article from the Denver Post on the Browns' interest in Gase . If he is indeed hired, I will say kudos to the FO for apparently getting what appears to be their top target. Now, we'll see if it was actually the right hire and will judge based on results. Again, that is if Gase is hired as the reports now indicate him as the front runner. Denver Post: Browns & Gase
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The Browns are owned by Jimmy Haslam, who is a close friend of Manning's. Their friendship dates to the quarterback's days at the University of Tennessee.
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I dunno about GM, but what about the job that Elway has in Denver?
I think Peyton is going to go into the media when he's done anyway, he's way too good in front of a camera.
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Suppose the Broncos do go to the Super Bowl and the Browns do interview Gase. I can just imagine the fallout if he doesn't get the job. It could seriously happen that the Browns interview him and decide he's not the best candidate, thus hiring one of the other candidates. If that happens there will be such an uproar. I
Here's the gist of what we might hear from all different corners of the board:
1. It will be argued that Gase turned the Browns down and the Browns are just trying to save face.
2. Some will complain, "If you were going to hire Coach X, why didn't you hire him in the first place?"
3. Look at all the time they lost by waiting and NOT hiring this guy.
4. We had to "settle"
There will be others, I'm sure. I guess by waiting on Gase, they are hedging their bets, hoping he'll be the one. If he's not, and they hire who they truly feel is the best after the interview process, then I'm okay with it. What I don't want is for them to wait for Gase and then hire him because, "Well we waited this long, now we have to hire him."
This is one of the reasons I wouldn't wait to hire my coach if I were in charge. I respect that he wants to focus on his playoff run, but I have an off-season to prepare for and every day w/out a head coach is a day behind, in my opinion. I would ask him (or any other candidate) to interview within the time windows allowed by the league. If he said, "No," I'd move on. They only way I'd wait would be if the other interviewees were absolutely not right for what I was looking for and interviews took that long to complete.
First of all, while they haven't formally interviewed, that doesn't mean that haven't met. Haslam, if I understand things correctly, is good friends with Payton Manning. IF that's true then they have inside info on him.
Couple that with Haslam or Banner or Lombardi may know him already, there maybe (MAY BE) a unspoken decision already.
Of course, I can't possibly know that. Nobody is talking.
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I wouldn't.....
Two reasons: 1, I'm not qualified and 2, I don't trust the FO
But, there is one reason to take it.. MONEY.. If they paid me a million to take that job, I'd do it for a year. 
So, then you WOULD take the job. And you'd come cheap too!
Nope,, wouldn't.. I don't want the headaches.. And I don't want to work for people I don't trust.. Right now, I don't trust this front office.
What am I missing here?
Well, if you don't understand it, I don't know what to say,
let's try this, I WOULD NOT TAKE THE JOB.. thats assuming I'm even qualified which of course, I'm not.
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You are missing that someone has on overinflated opinion of himself.
I didn't want to be the one to say it, but, yes, you do! 
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Maybe Peyton knows for sure that Gase is the next Belichick, Peyton has some secret handshake under the table to come and work for the Browns in the next few years...
So the Browns fire Chud, and start interviewing all these candidates to throw off the scent.
The Broncos win the Super Bowl, Gase is hired, Johnny Football is drafted, and Peyton Manning comes aboard to act as prez all while coaching up Mr. Football.
amirite?
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Maybe Peyton knows for sure that Gase is the next Belichick, Peyton has some secret handshake under the table to come and work for the Browns in the next few years...
So the Browns fire Chud, and start interviewing all these candidates to throw off the scent.
The Broncos win the Super Bowl, Gase is hired, Johnny Football is drafted, and Peyton Manning comes aboard to act as prez all while coaching up Mr. Football.
amirite?
Ya know, I am giving up trying to figure this team out. I swear, just when I think I know what they are up to, they change gears and direction on me, So why not LOL
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This is the truth, and he's going to get a lot of money doing it. He already makes a killing with his silly Papa John and other commercials. He's the so-called "face of the nfl" so yeah, the camera is his destiny lol.
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And he will make a ton more money doing TV work than he would coaching or being a team president.
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I just read about Jim Caldwell and now want nothing to do with Adam Gase. Has a team just never hired a head coach, I think that is the best option at this point.
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This Gase thing has disaster written all over it.....
We are going to hire a guy that has 1 years NFL experience, as a coordinator. in that seasons he was Manning's OC.
I could be Manning's OC or QB coach or even both at the same time and Manning would still be Manning...does that mean im qualified to be an NFL head coach? Of course not!
If they hire Gase, 1 of 2 things will happen.
1. Gase will light the world on fire and tear it up (with the Browns luck, this isn't likely)
2. Gase will end up being the biggest flame out in modern day coaching.(most likely)
I think our owner is going to get snookered....Manning is Manning....Bruce Arians was Manning's 1st QB coach / OC, when he left the Colts for the Browns, Manning never blinked, Again Manning leaves Indy and goes to Denver...whole new coaching staff...again..Manning never blinked...
Manning makes Manning...All Gase is doing is holding a clipboard and acting like he has something to do with the gameplan.
Most likely every week, Manning lays out the plays he is going to call in the games on Sunday and Gase just goes along with it....I mean Manning calls the plays at the LOS anyways, and its the same O Manning has run since his days in Indy...watch the Film..Manning is running the Colts/Arians O in Denver...he is calling his own plays....
Most likely, Manning and Gase had a few beers and became buddies, so Manning is just trying to help his friend get a job, and I don't fault Manning for that, but Gase isn't Andy Reid...and fear this another one of those "look im smarter then you" moves that is going to blow up in this organizations face....
Munchak, would be a better hire then this guy most likely, and i am not even a Munchak fan....but at least he has a 22-24 record, and some experience, and is a former player as well who won't get pushed around.
The more I think about Munchak, the more I think he is the best option for us at this point,he is hard-nosed, a former player, he don't take no ones nonsense, and he is a tough guy, I think he is a good coach who was a QB away from being able to do something with the Titans.JMO
its more likely then not that hiring Gase will be a big mistake for this team....
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I do not know what I am more scared of -- the fact that I agree with Knight of Brown or that we are probably going to hire Gase as our head coach.
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j/c...
1. Gase has the biggest Superstar potential in him from all the candidates...I would actually be a little impressed if we had him targeted and succeeded in signing him.
2. We have heard nothing but high acclaims about his organization skills and football intelligence.
3. Yes, Manning without a doubt is part of the success but there is a lot more to football and that is the game plan setting up Manning with the correct audibles to the different looks.
4. Obviously its his position to lose with a terrible interview if we wait that long to hire. If waiting and he denies us that would be a blow to our organization. Also any hire after that would obviously not be our first choice.
5. You don't make a hire of your first choice waiting out of curiosity of another.
6. Wikipedia shows you it can't be the deal breaker in a discussion/debate...anyone can put the info in...obviously we got some good computer skills (well better than I...which is a large demographic lol  ) fans who in just have done some things.
Got to get the HC...got to talk to our FA players Mack, Ward and whoever we want here and get them on board quick! Hopefully he has his dream team all set up for this day when he was made HC and we have his top OC n DC candidates around.
Now...I guess I'm rooting for the Patriots! Go BB n Brady!
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I keep seeing people talk about how Chud, with 5 probowlers, lost more games than Shurmer did a year ago. Going on to speculate that Chud was a 'dud' for not getting more out of his players.
It appears to me that Chud did do just that. He took the same players that Shurmer coached and coached them up to pro bowl quality players. All 5 guys were on Shurmers team. Yet only 2 made it under his reign. How can one say Chud didn't improve the quality of play from our players, despite losing? I saw players improve under Chud. So did the rest of the league. Enough so to get 5 players voted in off a 4 win team. That to me shows good individual coaching. The 4 wins shows me lack of a quality QB.
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From what I've read about the amount of time he puts into planning and preparation, I think he's going to go into coaching. I don't know that he'll be able to just stop cold turkey.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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From what I've read about the amount of time he puts into planning and preparation, I think he's going to go into coaching. I don't know that he'll be able to just stop cold turkey.
You can plan and prepare and be involved in broadcasting. Gruden was notorious for his meticulous, borderline insane film sessions and he transitioned pretty well (he still watches the film).
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From what I've read about the amount of time he puts into planning and preparation, I think he's going to go into coaching. I don't know that he'll be able to just stop cold turkey.
I doubt it. He is in front of a camera or in the FO of some team.
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I do not know what I am more scared of -- the fact that I agree with Knight of Brown or that we are probably going to hire Gase as our head coach.
I can really only say one thing about Gase, nobody really knows that much about the guy. He's not a high profile guy who's name is bantered around this time every year, Kind of the same way Andy Reid was known to few.
My question is, and it doesn't matter who we hire, what happens if the new coach goes 5-11 next season like Reid did in 99? Are we looking at yet another change?
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Well, you're wrong because I'm always right. 
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I do not know what I am more scared of -- the fact that I agree with Knight of Brown or that we are probably going to hire Gase as our head coach.
I can really only say one thing about Gase, nobody really knows that much about the guy. He's not a high profile guy who's name is bantered around this time every year, Kind of the same way Andy Reid was known to few.
My question is, and it doesn't matter who we hire, what happens if the new coach goes 5-11 next season like Reid did in 99? Are we looking at yet another change?
My gut tells me a losing record in his first season sure as heck wouldn't get him canned. They think the fan base sets off seismic activity in Seattle . . .
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Suppose the Broncos do go to the Super Bowl and the Browns do interview Gase. I can just imagine the fallout if he doesn't get the job. It could seriously happen that the Browns interview him and decide he's not the best candidate, thus hiring one of the other candidates. If that happens there will be such an uproar. I
Here's the gist of what we might hear from all different corners of the board:
1. It will be argued that Gase turned the Browns down and the Browns are just trying to save face.
2. Some will complain, "If you were going to hire Coach X, why didn't you hire him in the first place?"
3. Look at all the time they lost by waiting and NOT hiring this guy.
4. We had to "settle"
There will be others, I'm sure. I guess by waiting on Gase, they are hedging their bets, hoping he'll be the one. If he's not, and they hire who they truly feel is the best after the interview process, then I'm okay with it. What I don't want is for them to wait for Gase and then hire him because, "Well we waited this long, now we have to hire him."
This is one of the reasons I wouldn't wait to hire my coach if I were in charge. I respect that he wants to focus on his playoff run, but I have an off-season to prepare for and every day w/out a head coach is a day behind, in my opinion. I would ask him (or any other candidate) to interview within the time windows allowed by the league. If he said, "No," I'd move on. They only way I'd wait would be if the other interviewees were absolutely not right for what I was looking for and interviews took that long to complete.
5. We battled. 
Einstein could not even fathom the mathematical improbabilities of the Browns woes.
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j/c Todd Bowles pulls himself out of the Browns mix With only two NFL head coaching openings left, there are signs it could be down to one soon. According to Mike Garafolo of FOX Sports, Cardinals defensive coordinator Todd Bowles has taken himself out of the running for the Browns head coaching job. While Bowles is certainly a legitimate candidate based on his work with the Cardinals, that usually only happens when a guy knows he’s not getting the job, usually around the time someone else is. The Browns have kept a low profile throughout the process, and a report today indicated that they wanted to wait to interview Broncos offensive coordinator Adam Gase before making a decision. They’re also checking out college coaches along with retreads and NFL assistants including Mike Munchak, Dan Quinn and Ben McAdoo. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/14/todd-bowles-pulls-himself-out-of-the-browns-mix/
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well... bummer. He was one of the guys I actually thought could be good.
I'm keeping an open mind about this head coach thing. Much harder for me to tell who would make a good coach than a player.
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It seems like Bowles probably knew he was not a serious candidate and did not want to be strung along.
I am starting to think that maybe it is the players for the Arizona Cardinals andMnot the coordinators.
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Browns letting Horton interview for anything: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/14/browns-letting-ray-horton-interview-for-anything/ Quote:
In yet another indication the Browns may know which way they’re leaning, they’re apparently opening the door for existing assistants to leave.
According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, the Browns are granting permission for defensive coordinator Ray Horton to interview for other jobs, even if they’re lateral moves.
Coupled with Cardinals defensive coordinator Todd Bowles taking his name out of the running for the head coaching job he interviewed for, it creates the appearance that the Browns are close to a decision, or at least close enough to know who they don’t want to keep around.
With several teams still looking, Horton should be a hot commodity as an assistant, and shouldn’t be out of work long if they don’t want to keep him, and makes sense in Tennessee, where his old Arizona boss Ken Whisenhunt just landed.
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I was thinking the same thing. If we know who we are going to hire then that person probably has people in mind for his staff.
If the decision has been made my money is on Munchak with Schwartz coming on as the defensive coordinator.
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I'm beginning to think maybe the front office went off half cocked and now can't find a replacement coach? Beautiful.
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