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Sort of what I was getting at. Sometimes what is said isn't what is heard....either way, no biggie...Freeagent is a good guy.
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Adam Schefter now also reporting what Will Burge first reported this morning. That the Browns will offer Pettine the job. I think this could end up being a good hire even if he was their 3rd, 4th, 5th choice or whatever the case me be. Time will be the judge. Browns: Pettine
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Part five already? Why it only seems a few months ago that we burned Chud's bridge and rationalized it. Quick how many known candidates have we fussed with (just the known ones will be OK) so far? Seems really dislocated to say we have a list, a name, a blockbuster HC really, and keep this sideshow busy. It may not be fair or correct, but this exhaustive search is great how? This is how we laid it out and drew up the fire/hire scenario? This is masterful FO werk? If the proof is in the pudding, then we didn't know enough about many candidates, some may be secondary fills in staff. Or we overestimated the irresistible advantages that this club's FO handling and loyalty and badly outweighs picks, cap space, PBers, and such as proven by their withdrawals. This looks like amateur hour to me, and it all depends upon assurances that we will get it right beccause, well, we must! Though we haven't yet, and I think we are doing more damage now and especially into the future as this process meanders. Methinks we are running out opportunities for that vaunted "BOLD" thang. And at this rate, I pray it won't be followed by "April Fool!" Ready to be lied to or spun or whatever. We will be told this was first choice on some list while we diddled this; but are we expected to believe this FO can build a perfect machine out of flawed parts? Just concerned that we could have done this better. HC, best of luck, really. But we still have many spots to fill and fix with staff and roster before any improvement can begin.   
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I think we will like Pettines presser when it occurs.
My brother in law says "You will love him"!
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Bad news. I've just been informed that I've been fired.
What are you going to do with all that money ? you going to buy season tickets ?
Well, maybe now we can go to 79 for play-off tickets, seeing how Holmgren isn't around any more 
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I want this to be the last hire we make for a long time. Hopefully he can put together a great staff and in 5 years we are all talking about what a great job he has done. Go Browns!!! My bad on the "Proven Winner". It's the way I heard it, and I wasn't the only one. Quote:
Owner Jimmy Haslam talked about hiring a proven winner to replace Rob Chudzinski, so it was odd when the first names that surfaced in the Cleveland Browns' coaching search were coordinators.
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FreeAgent, I wasn't trying to knock your comment or anything regarding proven winner. I, too, actually had thought he had said proven winner. I just thought I'd share the clarification. Like I said, its just semantics.
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Adam Schefter now also reporting what Will Burge first reported this morning. That the Browns will offer Pettine the job. I think this could end up being a good hire even if he was their 3rd, 4th, 5th choice or whatever the case me be. Time will be the judge.
Browns: Pettine
I don't buy this 2nd,3rd,4th person stuff.
I believe we went in to it wanting to interview a host of people....and we did.
Some withdrew.....maybe because they knew we didn't like them, maybe they didn't like the terms being discussed....could be anything.
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No biggie, I didn't take it as a knock, Thanks for getting the true statement out there.
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Adam Schefter now also reporting what Will Burge first reported this morning. That the Browns will offer Pettine the job. I think this could end up being a good hire even if he was their 3rd, 4th, 5th choice or whatever the case me be. Time will be the judge.
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I don't buy this 2nd,3rd,4th person stuff.
I believe we went in to it wanting to interview a host of people....and we did.
Some withdrew.....maybe because they knew we didn't like them, maybe they didn't like the terms being discussed....could be anything.
By all reports this is the first "offer" we made... by default doesnt that make him the first choice? Not the first interview, just the first choice?
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Now can Petine bring Byrd with him to solidfy he safety spot 
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Adam Schefter now also reporting what Will Burge first reported this morning. That the Browns will offer Pettine the job. I think this could end up being a good hire even if he was their 3rd, 4th, 5th choice or whatever the case me be. Time will be the judge.
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Does it really matter what choice it was? Assuming the leadership are morons, which many think is the case, then wouldn't their first choices probably be the wrong type of person?
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Nfl.com is reporting that Browns and Petinne are currently figuring out assistants.
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Now can Petine bring Byrd with him to solidfy he safety spot
ooooh....wouldn't that be sweet.
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What is Pettines game day demeanor? Anyone know? Would be nice to have a guy with fire.
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I think it's a mix between quasi-pensive and downright inflammatory.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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I pray to god he is vulgar and offensive. *crossing fingers*
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Adam Schefter now also reporting what Will Burge first reported this morning. That the Browns will offer Pettine the job. I think this could end up being a good hire even if he was their 3rd, 4th, 5th choice or whatever the case me be. Time will be the judge.
Browns: Pettine
Does it really matter what choice it was? Assuming the leadership are morons, which many think is the case, then wouldn't their first choices probably be the wrong type of person?
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/01/browns_could_still_hire_mike_p.html#incart_m-rpt-2CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Browns head coaching finalist Mike Pettine could be hired as early today, but the Browns haven't made a final decision yet, three sources told cleveland.com Thursday morning. A report by Will Burge of the Bleacher Report stated that the Browns have decided on Pettine, the Bills defensive coordinator, as their coach and that he's coming in today to finalize his contract. A source said that's "false'' and that no such final decision has been made. That doesn't mean Pettine won't be named the Browns coach by the end of the day. It could happen. The Browns really like Pettine and he's excited about the job, a source said. But as late as Wednesday, the Browns were still checking into other candidates, including what was believed to be a phone interview with Falcons offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter and fired Bucs coach Greg Schiano. The Browns may have also checked into Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels this week, but McDaniels will not get back into the mix, sources told cleveland.com. As of Wednesday night, the Browns had not yet set up a second interview with Seahawks defensive coordinator Dan Quinn. Quinn will face the Broncos in the Super Bowl Feb. 2, and would have to be interviewed by Sunday -- unless the Browns choose to wait until after the Super Bowl. If they decide Quinn is their man, they wouldn't be able to hire him until after the game. Meanwhile, the Browns appear to be moving toward hiring Pettine, 47, who was already in the process of identifying assistants for his coaching staff while at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., a source said.
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We've heard this, and the opposite of this, several times now. These "sources" are a JOKE and wish they'd just keep their pieholes shut, and their false opinions to themselves.
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I pray to god he is vulgar and offensive. *crossing fingers*
I could have been the coach then if that was the criteria.
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We've heard this, and the opposite of this, several times now. These "sources" are a JOKE and wish they'd just keep their pieholes shut, and their false opinions to themselves.
I dont know if its me ,... but they seem to want to spin this JM situation in whatever way sheds the bad light on the browns.
If its we hired someone then JM wouldnt come back eventhough we virtually begged him to and we look stupid
If we are still looking then we looking; JM wants back but we dont want him so we are stupid
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I could have been the coach then if that was the criteria.
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I pray to god he is vulgar and offensive. *crossing fingers*
I could have been the coach then if that was the criteria.
Would love to hear your interview....
Well I am an OHio boy and according to my wife from the first time she went there... " Man everybody in Ohio is just as rude and nasty as you are" 
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Source on McDaniels is coming from local source. Huh, since when has locals introduce breaking news?
What I want to know is this, has he purchased Bill Cowhers house here in the area
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We've heard this, and the opposite of this, several times now. These "sources" are a JOKE and wish they'd just keep their pieholes shut, and their false opinions to themselves.
I dont know if its me ,... but they seem to want to spin this JM situation in whatever way sheds the bad light on the browns.
If its we hired someone then JM wouldnt come back eventhough we virtually begged him to and we look stupid
If we are still looking then we looking; JM wants back but we dont want him so we are stupid
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Well it looks like it's official we have a new head coach  
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The time line and preference sounds right. Cause it was obvious from their history that McD was Lombardi's choice - I thought possibly it was a sign that Lombardi was just in hot water that McD possibly caught wind that he wasn't the first choice and dropped out. You know the usual reason why candidates state they are taking their name off the list.
But it makes sense that Kelly, McD and Gase all primary choices in the last 2 years have taken their name off the list...If I'm an owner I'm cupping my mouth and breathing heavily into it to catch a whiff of that bad breath or something. Cause potential suitors are backing out. The lack of getting Kelly was not Haslam's fault cause he didn't really have anything do with the history.
But when they do their search and hire and then fire in 1 year. It puts a accent onto the words "lacks stability"
Well dumb move or not...I hope they make a hire and its this guy Pittine and he becomes a kick butt leader aka super star HC. And all these candidates who dropped out can kiss my behind 
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Just a general comment here ......
I know almost nothing about Pettine, but if he is our choice, then I hope that he works out really well. He lacks a huge resume, so I wonder who he is going to bring in as coordinators and assistants. That will be a huge part of his success or failure.
I just hope that he's a leader.That is my #1 criteria for any head coach.
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I thought somebody mentioned Kubiak was to be his OC or possible candidate for OC (remember it was a one of two guys thing)???
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I know almost nothing about Pettine, but if he is our choice, then I hope that he works out really well. He lacks a huge resume, so I wonder who he is going to bring in as coordinators and assistants. That will be a huge part of his success or failure.
I just hope that he's a leader.That is my #1 criteria for any head coach.
Great,, but did he buy Cowhers house in the area?
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Aren't or weren't there reports that the Browns brain trust is meeting with Quinn over this coming weekend? Is that not happening now?
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Kubiak was a potential OC if we hired Quinn.
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I like that no one is too high or low about this hiring. I think it is because no one has a clue who this guy is. I posted this in the previous thread but I think it is worth posting again: Quote:
Pettine will enter his 12th year in the NFL coaching ranks in 2013 and fifth as a defensive coordinator. He served in the same capacity with the New York Jets from 2009-12 overseeing a defense that finished in the top 10 in total defense each year.
Pettine’s 2012 defense limited their opponents to the second-fewest passing yards per game (189.8) and finished fifth in the AFC in total defense (323.4 total yards per game).
Over the last four years, the Jets’ defense held opposing passers to an NFL-low 71.0 quarterback rating, completion percentage (52.6%), passing yards (186.3 per game). New York forced the highest percentage of three-and-out drives (29.4%). The Jets’ defense yielded the second-fewest yards per game (294.8) and posted a 34.6 third-down efficiency mark while holding their opponents to an average of 20.0 points per game (seventh-fewest in the league). New York’s defense recorded 115 takeaways in Pettine’s four-year tenure – the second-most in the AFC (seventh in the NFL). New York had nine 100-yard receiving games against from 2009-2012, the fewest in the league.
Pettine implemented a completely new defense that finished first in points allowed (14.8 points per game), total defense (252.3 yards per game) and pass defense (153.7 passing yards per game) in his first year with the Jets in 2009 and as a defensive coordinator.
Prior to joining the Jets, Pettine was a member of the Baltimore Ravens’ coaching staff for seven years from 2002-08. In his last four seasons with the Ravens, he coached the outside linebackers as part of a defensive unit that ranked fifth (2005), first (2006), sixth (2007) and second (2008) in the NFL. Before being promoted to a position coach, Pettine was a defensive assistant working with the defensive line in 2004 after two years serving as coaching and video assistant and in a quality control role.
Before entering the NFL coaching ranks, Pettine was the head coach at North Penn (Towamencin Township, PA). He led the school to 45 wins in five years including an 11-2 mark in 1999. He also served as the head coach at William Tennent (Warminster, PA) High School for two years, leading the team to a school-record nine wins in 1996.
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In his first season as a defensive coordinator in the NFL, Coach Pettine installed a completely new defense and fielded a unit that ranked first in points allowed, total defense and pass defense.
Under Coach Pettine CB Darrelle Revis recorded what Coach Ryan referred to as: “…the best year a corner has ever had (and) the most impact a corner has ever had in the National Football League. That's my opinion.” Revis earned first-team honors on every recognized team for his performance in 2009.
LB David Harris earned second-team All Pro honors under Coach Pettine after leading the NFL’s number one defense with 142 tackles, 5.5 sacks, two interceptions, three passes defensed and two forced fumbles.
Mike Pettine is one of two coaches that joined Coach Ryan was the first assistant coach hired by Head Coach Rex Ryan at the Jets. At the time of his hire Ryan said: “Mike is a rising star in this league. We’re fortunate that we were able to get him on our staff.”
Pettine’s background in football is similar to Coach Ryan’s background. While Rex learned from his legendary coaching father, Buddy, Pettine’s coaching roots trace to his father, Mike, Sr., the head coach for 33 years at Central Bucks West HS in Doylestown, PA. Pettine played for his dad before graduating in 1984, and assisted him for five seasons (1988-92). When Mike Sr. retired as a head coach after the 1999 season, he was the winningest coach in the history of Pennsylvania High School football with a career record of 326-42-4.
Pettine spent the previous four seasons coaching the outside linebackers for the Baltimore Ravens and was a part of the Ravens organization from 2002 to 2008. During his four seasons as the outside linebackers coach, the Ravens defense finished fifth (2005), first (2006), sixth (2007) and second (2008) in the NFL. In 2006, the defense allowed only 201 points and 264 yards per game.
The Ravens 2008 defense allowed 261.1 yards per game, finishing second overall in the NFL. The 2008 Ravens allowed 244 points, third-fewest in the NFL, and led the NFL with 34 takeaways, 26 interceptions and a league-low 60.6 opponents’ passer rating. Baltimore also yielded a league-low four rushing touchdowns.
As the Ravens outside linebackers coach, Terrell Suggs, Adalius Thomas and Jarret Johnson are among the players he tutored on a defensive unit that had always been among the stingiest in the NFL.
Before he was promoted to OLB coach in 2005, Pettine assisted Ryan in 2004 coaching the defensive line. In 2002-03, Pettine used his computer expertise to help develop playbooks, scouting reports and video analysis for the defensive coaches. Through the years he has produced innovative coaching programs that utilize football video to develop playbooks and analyze game video.
Before entering the NFL, Pettine was the head coach at North Penn HS in Towamencin Township, PA, a suburb of Philadelphia. Pettine’s 1999 team was featured in the ESPN documentary, “The Season.” That team went 11-2, with the only two losses to his father’s Central Bucks (CB) West team, which won the state title in his father’s final season as a head coach. His dad came out of retirement to assist him during the 2001 season, Pettine’s final year coaching in high school.
Pettine’s teams won 45 games in five seasons at North Penn. He was also the head coach at William Tennent HS in Warminster, PA for two seasons, leading that team to a school-record nine wins in 1996.
After coaching with his dad for five seasons, Pettine served as a graduate assistant on Johnny Majors’ coaching staff at the University of Pittsburgh for two seasons (1993-94), where coincidentally he crossed paths with future Jets great Curtis Martin.
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Pettine played free safety at Virginia under Head Coach George Welsh and was a two-year letterman (1986-87). He led the team in interceptions in 1986, including a school-record three in one contest vs. North Carolina State.
He was an All-State quarterback and defensive back at CB West.
OFF THE FIELD
Mike has three children, Megan, Ryan and Katie.
Graduated from the University of Virginia with a degree in Economics.
Played basketball in high school.
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j/c.. Browns are getting some positive press about the very likely Pettine hire. Gregg Rosenthal Comments Comments on Pettine Tom Withers of the AP is also confirming Browns are prepared to make an offer to Pettine. Tom Withers Report
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