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But can he twerk? Marry sMiley, Biebs. Think what kind of kids that might give us. Sick of this punk.

Its the gift that keeps on giving:


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Washington (AFP) - As if Barack Obama didn't have enough problems to deal with already, his administration now is being asked to weigh in on the grave matter of Justin Bieber's bad behavior.

By midday Wednesday (1700 GMT), a petition on the White House website calling for the deportation of the Canadian-born teen idol had garnered 103,000 names -- easily surpassing the threshold of 100,000 signatures required for presidential consideration.

"We the people of the United States feel that we are being wrongly represented in the world of pop culture," says the petition, created by one "J.A." in Detroit on January 23, the day Bieber was busted in Miami Beach for impaired driving and illegal drag racing in a flashy Italian sports car.

"We would like to see the dangerous, reckless, destructive and drug-abusing Justin Bieber deported and his green card revoked. He is not only threatening the safety of our people but he is also a terrible influence on our nation's youth. We the people would like to remove Justin Bieber from our society."

The White House website hosts citizens' petitions on other, more heady issues such as the legalization of marijuana and a pardon for National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden.

"Every petition that crosses the threshold will be reviewed by the appropriate staff and receive a response," assistant White House spokesman Matt Lehrich said.

But State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki cautioned that the petition program "doesn't always determine a step will be taken, it's more of another opportunity for the voices of the American people to be heard."

There was no comment from Bieber himself, who according to gossip websites was back in Los Angeles on Wednesday after a weekend beach break in Panama.

Bieber, 19, is understood to be living and working in the United States under a renewable O-1 visa for entertainers, rather than a green card for permanent resident status.

It remains unclear whether Bieber's visa to stay in the United States would be affected by his arrest.

Now out on bail, Bieber is due back in Miami for a court appearance on Valentine's Day, when he will also also face charges of resisting arrest and using an expired driver's license.

Police in Los Angeles are pursuing their own investigation into an earlier incident in which Bieber allegedly hurled eggs at a neighbor's house.

Obama can use his pen for good for a change, just deport him and move onto the next problem/issue!

The obama network thought this was more important than a congress woman discussing the NSA.

Shouldn't deporting trouble makers, crooks, criminals and anyone else that scoffs at our laws be SOP?

I hate "The Beebz"... but for a completely different set of reasons than most who have posted about him (both here, and wherever else I might find myself):

I hate what he represents.


To eliminate my hatred for people like Justin Beiber, we have only to do one thing:


Close down the DisneyCorp 'teen fright express'(and every other biz like them)... and we'll cut off the snake at its head.


There's a reason- a very real reason why it's called the entertainment industry:

Human Beings are being used as raw materials to fuel a factory that churns out the view-able equivalent of Cheetos... for an endless supply chain of kids and 'tweens who don't yet know better. Moms and Pops aren't blameless in this, either: they allow entities like Disney and Nickelodeon to:

1. Use their kids as 'mineable materials'

to

2. Babysit other peoples' kids while they extend their work days.


It's no surprise to me that these kid stars end up on the front pages of tabloid websites. It's no surprise that they end up on TMZ. It's no surprise that so many of them become the subjects of Google searches that read: "Failed Child Stars."

After all, ghouls like TMZ and Gawker are just part of the 'food chain,' aren't they? Why shouldn't they get to pick at the carcass too? After all, every food chain needs its carrion eaters...

It's pretty easy to bag on The Beebz, because he's made himself such a visible public target. But please remember this, as well: he was someone's sweet little boy at some point in his life.

He wasn't always the person he is now. And that's the real story behind these tragic unfoldings.

The person we now see as 'Justin Bieber' is the by-product of the adults in his life- making decisions that effected him. Every single adult, every single decision. Every single one of them. This kid is now a by-product of the very process that made him a household commodity.... and 90% of his life was determined by the adults in his life.


You doubt me?

Place your own 'precious one' in that centrifuge... and tell me how fkked up your life wouldn't be, right now.


The Beebz isn't just another 'successful media construct'... he's also a shining example of the "by-product" that results from the Henry Ford- based mining/refining/defining process that has always been employed by the entertainment industry.


If you hate "The Beebz" like I do, please take your hatred one step further... and direct it at the process that actually produces such a toxic by-product. There MUST be a way to give The People what they want, without destroying other Human Beings in the process. We have only to find it.


If you process Human Beings like like you do coal or oil, you'll always be forced to see the results of 'incomplete combustion.' Trust me- I worked in an oil refinery for 5 years- the detritus of refining is NOT pretty.

If we hate JB, we must, by extension take some responsibility for what we've made of him.

After all: he wouldn't have made our daughters swoon if we adults didn't let The Machine present him to them.

-just sayin'

I guess I'm cynical, but it all seems pretty manufactured and prepackaged to me. Its like we're watching Act II of a play. In Act III, he goes to rehab, heroically overcomes his alcohol and drug problems along with his feelings of low self-esteem and alienation. After that, a new CD, concert tour, book, and movie. The money flows in. A large portion of the public eats this schnitzel up - the people who can't get enough of Bieber or Miley or the Kardashians. The rest of us just shake our head and move on. These circus clowns are like the tapioca pudding in a buffet line (mixed metaphor alert - LOL). Just walk by it; there's too much good stuff on the table to fit on your plate to take up space with that junk.

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I guess I'm cynical, but it all seems pretty manufactured and prepackaged to me.

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I agree. I seems choreographed to me.

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These circus clowns are like the tapioca pudding in a buffet line

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Hey, I like tapioca pudding. lol

It's what it is...


It's a 21 year old kid being what overprivileged 21 year old kids are. Now he wasn't born overprivileged, but in his formative teenage years he had money, and people around him that LOVE to spend money and live the life and be about that life. Remember this kid's main influence when he started was Usher. Him and his people party. So now Bieber and his people party.

His decision making has been subpar, but that microscope is FIRMLY planted above the slide that is his life and he's doing the same dumb things most of us have done in college and shortly after...its just that he has more money to do it.

People are just mad that he (and others like him Lindsay Lohan, Miley Cyrus, Drew Barrymore, etc...) was a "role model" in that he was a sweet kid singing happy love songs and everyone's little girl loved him and still think he's sexy and what not and want him to be what he used to be. It's a teaching moment for parents...but it's a tough one. Because his life ultimately wont be worse because a criminal record doesn't affect his career. No one loses their job as a musician because they get drunk and arrested...No one gets a DUI and then cant find work as a musician. Especially one that has sex appeal to the masses. He will actually gain "street cred" because he's living the rock and roll lifestyle.
Therefore the teaching moment has to be that, bad decisions may not ruin his life...but they WILL ruin your life. If you want to be a teacher/construction worker/contractor/lawyer/other professional that involves being a leader of people or one that has to drive...YOU wont find work. YOUR life will be ruined by his decisions...and its a tough message to convey to your kids...and that's why people get the most upset.

He drank, did some other drugs, and raced...terrible decisions...but not decisions that thousands of others make every weekend...People should be upset that he endangered a number of people's lives with his BAD decisions...As for hating the kid...who cares. Its sour grapes because there are SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE that are MUCH better people that will NEVER be afforded those privileges and chances and freedom of life.

I'll admit it...I dislike him for it. That and I think his music sucks...but I get why he's popular. It's just too bad that our society loves giving attention to people who don't deserve it because theyre interesting.

Could you imagine what life would be like if we were interested in the lives of guys like Steve jobs, Bill Gates, Stephen Hawking, Mark Cuban, and other influential people

He's actually 19 and turning 20 next month. I think that it's kinda screwed up that someone is looking at anyone in those formative years to be someone else's role model. And I'm not sure what they expected when those kids act like 19 and 20 year olds.