These guys livelihoods are on the line. There reputation is almost literally their paycheck. So when they tweet it isn't even close as the same as if you tweeted it.
Quote: So if LaConfora had written a 500 word article on the fact that the Browns are interested in Kubiak, it should be posted.. but if he tweets it in 25 words, it should not be allowed.
His tweet is posted, two or three posts down, there is a article saying it's unlikely.
I could tweet anything, doesn't mean it's right or true. I could tweet that Kosar is the new OC for the Browns. I don't have to know if he is or not.
If there are 15 people in contention for the DC job, I can post 15 times with different names and someone on here would pick up each one of them and post it.
Tell me again the value in that?
How many followers do you have on twitter?
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Quote: Glazer generally doesn't put much stuff out there. But if he does he is always right.
Schefter puts a lot out there and is right about 98% of the time.
Schefter does a good job walking the line of confirming things and commenting things that are just out there. Usually when something is official he will preface the tweet with "Filed to ESPN:" He's very good.
Quote: Unless I can see some connection between the two I'd say Kubiak ain't happening.
I don't think there has to be a connection between the two. Just pay Kubiak a lot of money. It's what they did with Horton last year.
With that said, I don't see Kubiak coming either. If I was him I would take a safe job for a year or two, reestablish my credibility, and then be back in the head coach mix.
The following guys are still listed on the coaches page on the official site:
Chris Tabor - Special Teams Coordinator Bobby Babich - Assistant Defensive Backs Coach Chris Di Santo - Assistant Strength and Conditioning Coach (this guy is a weird looking dude) Ken Flajole - Inside Linebackers Coach Steve Gera - Special Assistant to the Head Coach Derik Keyes - Assistant Strength and Conditioning Coach Daron Roberts - Defensive Quality Control John Settle - Running Backs Coach Mike Sullivan - Offensive Line Coach
Quote: Hard to believe they're retaining Tabor. ST's were a mess this year.
I like Tabor and think he's done a very good job since being here. It is always challenging when replacing someone who was a very good coach, in this case Brad Seely. I think our special teams unit did struggle and was down because of a few factors (in no order):
1. Travis Benjamin was injured.
2. We never found a decent KR. Although there are a ton of touchbacks nowadays in the NFL, we never found a guy that could put us in better field position than the 20. There was a rotation of guys like Rainey, Whittaker, McFadden, Benjamin (finally used just before in was injured). Heck, Tabor had to use Greg Little because there was no one for him.
3. We shuffled the bottom of our roster WEEKLY.
4. We lost Cribbs as a gunner... Bubba Ventrone as well. Guess where Ventrone went when we chose not to re-sign him?... that's right, to San Fran under Seely. Not to mention Dawson leaving but wanted to expand on ST beyond just FGs.
5. Johnson Bademosi didn't play as good as he did last year but still played well. I think ProFootballFocus has him as their best special teams player in 2012 or something like that.
6. People instantly lean on the 2nd game vs the Bengals as a microcosm of the unit. Although that was a terrible game, I don't necessarily think it indicative of the overall squad performance.
Many of the contributing guys we had on special team coverage last year (which I thought was a very good year for our ST) weren't retained for one reason or another....LJ Fort, James-Michael Johnson, Josh Cribbs, Bubba Ventrone, Owen Marecic, and Tashaun Gipson (promoted and don't remember him being on the unit this year). Couple that with shuffling players in and out each week doesn't spell a recipe for stability.
Right or wrong, I think this FO likes Tabor. Perhaps they recognize they didn't give his unit a legit chance....at least that's what I think.
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At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
Quote: Hard to believe they're retaining Tabor. ST's were a mess this year.
Could just be that the only person they fired was Chud, and that only our OC and DC have been hired by someone else (and not our STC).
I don't think that is it. We have had multiple other guys leave (Warhop, Baker, Turner's son for example).
I think I might misunderstanding what you are saying.
Did they leave because they were hired by someone else? Or just they're not here anymore?
*edit -- never mind. I missed this part somehow http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foot...to-be-new-coach League sources tell CBS NFL Insider Jason La Canfora that Pettine is very high on Bills linebackers coach Jim O'Neil as his new defensive coordinator, while Browns special teams coach Chris Tabor is very likely to remain in that role. *
This opens up the LB coach for the Bills to be our Defensive Coordinator (I'd imagine). Can't imagine the Bills not letting O'Neil go after choosing someone else to be their D-Coordinator..........
Just leaves me wondering who the O-Coordinator will be. People threw around Kubiak's name, but both Texans fans I know complain about the guy's play calling. I guess it's too predictable. I'm not too high on the guy myself. I wonder who we'll bring in. Defense is probably set up now
Quote: My thoughts are that I really want to see Kyle Shanahan coming in.
His father led more to his downfall than Kyle's incompetence.
I don't think this would be as bad as a choice most would say. The offense really changed directions from RGIII to Kirk Cousins, and if the Browns are truly as smitten with Manziel as the reports say they are, then RGIII is pretty similar to Manziel.
For the record: I want Manziel or Bridgewater, would be ambivalent with Bortles (hoping Texans take him) and want no part of Carr. If the Draft goes 1) Bortles 2) Trade up from team X they take Bridgewater 3) Manziel. I hope the browns pick up Mettenburger in the 2nd/3rd round.
Why not just hire Chud as the OC? He's had success here in the past.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Quote: Kubiak's Texans had the 7th best offense in the NFL in 2012. That is not that long ago. He got fired because Matt Schaub crapped the bed.
That, and a few other things.
His health and his condition this season affected the whole team.
I saw his offense as being a bit "unevolved"
That's it, I'll back off. If he comes, I will back him unless it gets scary.
As I see it, the only real reason to not hire Kubiak would be his health issue. It's a legitimate concern though. Maybe the stress of the HC job just finally got to him.
Also, you have to wonder how much it affected his mental capacity. Remember, it was a stroke, not an asthma attack or even a heart attack. Strokes cause damage to the brain. The evaluation process should be extensive. You really want your OC here for a while if you can.
Quote: For the record: I want Manziel or Bridgewater, would be ambivalent with Bortles (hoping Texans take him) and want no part of Carr. If the Draft goes 1) Bortles 2) Trade up from team X they take Bridgewater 3) Manziel. I hope the browns pick up Mettenburger in the 2nd/3rd round.
I want Mettenberger in the 2nd/3rd over the others anyway. Mettenberger would be talked about at the top of this draft if he hadn't had the injury and if you can get him in the 2nd or 3rd, you've gotten a steal.
If Mettenberger is gone by that time, David Fales would be my fallback QB to draft. If I had the opportunity to get them both, I'd do it.
Here is an article about possible OC candidates for the Ravens. I thought we could take a look at it and talk about whether or not we want any of these guys here. The candidates are listed in alphabetical order:
Quote: By Matt Zenitz Times Staff Writer
On Wednesday, the same day that the Detroit Lions introduced Jim Caldwell as their new head coach, Ravens coach John Harbaugh said in a statement that he has a "profile in mind" for the person that will replace Caldwell as Baltimore’s offensive coordinator.
“We will be interviewing coaches inside and outside of the building,” Harbaugh said. “We’re confident that whether we select someone currently on our staff or from another team, we will have a coach that best fits what we want to be, where we want to go and understands what Ravens football is all about. …
“We are excited about the coaches who have shown interest in the job. One of the positives with the change is that we’re reminded that this franchise — and — is attractive to many in the profession.”
The Ravens have not come out with an official list of coaches they're interested in, but here are 14 potential candidates (in alphabetical order).
Brad Childress
Childress, 57, was fired by the Cleveland Browns following the 2012 season after just one year as their offensive coordinator, but he is a former NFL head coach who was the Philadelphia Eagles’ offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach from 2003-05. He was also the Eagles’ quarterbacks coach for four seasons prior to that and has been largely credited for his work in helping to develop Donovan McNabb.
He also has a pre-existing relationship with Harbaugh. They were on the same staff together in Philadelphia.
Childress is currently the spread game analyst for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Clyde Christensen
Christensen, 57, was the Indianapolis Colts’ offensive coordinator from 2009-11 and has been the Colts’ quarterbacks coach the last two seasons, working with 2012 No. 1 overall pick Andrew Luck.
Christensen has been with Indianapolis since 2002. He was the Colts’ wide receivers coach from 2002-07 and was Indianapolis’ receivers coach and assistant head coach in 2008.
He was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ offensive coordinator in 2001 under Tony Dungy and left for the Colts with Dungy in 2002. He is reportedly the favorite to be named Caldwell’s offensive coordinator with the Lions. He worked with and under Caldwell in Indianapolis.
Geep Chryst
Chryst has been the San Francisco 49ers’ quarterbacks coach since 2011 under Harbaugh’s brother, Jim. During that time, he helped former No. 1 overall pick Alex Smith have a breakthrough season in 2011 and has aided in the development of current 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick.
Chryst has a relationship with Jim Harbaugh dating back to 1991, when Harbaugh was a quarterback for the Chicago Bears and Chryst was the Bears’ director of research and quality control. He was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach of the San Diego Chargers in 1999 and 2000, the same two years Jim Harbaugh was with the Chargers.
Rob Chudzinski
Chudzinski, 45, was recently fired after just one season as the coach of the Cleveland Browns. He was an offensive coordinator with the Carolina Panthers in 2011 and 2012. He has also been an offensive coordinator with the Browns (2007-08) and at the University of Miami (2001-03).
Jeff Davidson
Davidson, 46, is a former NFL offensive lineman who is a highly regarded offensive line coach. He has been the Vikings’ line coach since 2011. Prior to that, he was the Panthers’ offensive coordinator from 2007-10. He was also an offensive coordinator with the Browns in 2006.
Randy Fichtner
Fichtner, 50, has been on the Pittsburgh Steelers’ staff since Mike Tomlin was hired as coach in 2007. He was the Steelers’ wide receivers coach from 2007-09 and has been the quarterbacks coach since 2010.
He has never been an offensive coordinator in the NFL, but he was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at the University of Memphis from 2001-06 and the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Arkansas State from 1997-00. Memphis ranked ninth nationally in total offense under Fichtner in 2004.
Jim Hostler
Hostler, 47, has been the Ravens’ wide receivers coach since 2008 and has been big in the development of Torrey Smith. He was the 49ers’ offensive coordinator in 2007.
Greg Knapp
Knapp, 50, has been an offensive coordinator with five different NFL teams, most recently the Oakland Raiders in 2012, but he’s never lasted as a coordinator for more than three seasons. He is currently the quarterbacks coach with Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos.
Gary Kubiak
Kubiak was recently fired after eight seasons as coach of the Houston Texans. He is a highly thought of offensive mind. He was a quarterback for the Denver Broncos from 1983-91 and was the Broncos’ offensive coordinator from 1995-2005 before taking over with the Texans.
The Broncos had the most total yards in the NFL during that 11-year period (66,501) as well as the most touchdowns (465).
Rhett Lashlee
Lashlee, 30, is the offensive coordinator at the University of Auburn and helped the Tigers reach the National Championship game this season. On Lashlee’s bio on Auburn’s website, Tigers coach Gus Malzahn called Lashlee “one of the best young offensive minds in college football.”
Under Lashlee, Auburn ranked 11th in the country in total offense and first in rushing offense.
Lashlee runs a high-tempo offense built around the read-option at Auburn and previously and successfully ran high-tempo offenses at Arkansas State and Samford. Arkansas State ranked 17th nationally in total offense in 2011.
Joe Lombardi
Lombardi’s grandfather is legendary Green Bay Packers coach Vince Lombardi. He has been the New Orleans Saints’ quarterbacks coach since 2009, working with Pro Bowl quarterback Drew Brees.
Lombardi, 41, also spent a year with the Atlanta Falcons and was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Mercyhurst College from 2002-05.
Philip Montgomery
Montgomery, 40, has been the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Baylor University since 2008. During that time, he has helped develop quarterbacks Robert Griffin III, Nick Florence and Bryce Petty.
Griffin was the No. 2 overall pick in the 2012 NFL draft. Florence threw for 4,309 yards in 2012. Petty threw for 4,200 yards this season with 32 touchdowns and just three interceptions.
Baylor led the country in total offense this season and ranked fifth in passing offense and 13th in rushing offense. The Bears ranked second nationally in total offense in both 2011 and 2012.
Kyle Shanahan
Shanahan reportedly interviewed for the Ravens’ offensive coordinator job on Wednesday. Shanahan, the son of longtime NFL coach Mike Shanahan, has been an offensive coordinator since 2008, when he was just 28 years old.
Shanahan and his father were both fired by the Washington Redskins in December after a tumultuous 2013 season, but the Redskins ranked fifth in the NFL in total offense under Shanahan in 2012. The Texans also ranked among the top-5 in the league in total offense under Shanahan in both 2008 and 2009.
Glenn Thomas
Thomas has been quarterback Matt Ryan’s position coach with the Atlanta Falcons the last two seasons and has been with the Falcons since 2008. Prior to that, he was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Division II Midwestern St. from 2005-07. Midwestern St. led Division II in total offense and rushing offense under Thomas in 2007.
Thomas also has ties to the Ravens. According to his bio on the Falcons’ website, Thomas spent time helping out with Baltimore’s wide receivers in 2002, 2003 and 2005.
By Matt Zenitz Times Staff Writer
On Wednesday, the same day that the Detroit Lions introduced Jim Caldwell as their new head coach, Ravens coach John Harbaugh said in a statement that he has a "profile in mind" for the person that will replace Caldwell as Baltimore’s offensive coordinator.
“We will be interviewing coaches inside and outside of the building,” Harbaugh said. “We’re confident that whether we select someone currently on our staff or from another team, we will have a coach that best fits what we want to be, where we want to go and understands what Ravens football is all about. …
“We are excited about the coaches who have shown interest in the job. One of the positives with the change is that we’re reminded that this franchise — and — is attractive to many in the profession.”
The Ravens have not come out with an official list of coaches they're interested in, but here are 14 potential candidates (in alphabetical order).
Brad Childress
Childress, 57, was fired by the Cleveland Browns following the 2012 season after just one year as their offensive coordinator, but he is a former NFL head coach who was the Philadelphia Eagles’ offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach from 2003-05. He was also the Eagles’ quarterbacks coach for four seasons prior to that and has been largely credited for his work in helping to develop Donovan McNabb.
He also has a pre-existing relationship with Harbaugh. They were on the same staff together in Philadelphia.
Childress is currently the spread game analyst for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Clyde Christensen
Christensen, 57, was the Indianapolis Colts’ offensive coordinator from 2009-11 and has been the Colts’ quarterbacks coach the last two seasons, working with 2012 No. 1 overall pick Andrew Luck.
Christensen has been with Indianapolis since 2002. He was the Colts’ wide receivers coach from 2002-07 and was Indianapolis’ receivers coach and assistant head coach in 2008.
He was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ offensive coordinator in 2001 under Tony Dungy and left for the Colts with Dungy in 2002. He is reportedly the favorite to be named Caldwell’s offensive coordinator with the Lions. He worked with and under Caldwell in Indianapolis.
Geep Chryst
Chryst has been the San Francisco 49ers’ quarterbacks coach since 2011 under Harbaugh’s brother, Jim. During that time, he helped former No. 1 overall pick Alex Smith have a breakthrough season in 2011 and has aided in the development of current 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick.
Chryst has a relationship with Jim Harbaugh dating back to 1991, when Harbaugh was a quarterback for the Chicago Bears and Chryst was the Bears’ director of research and quality control. He was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach of the San Diego Chargers in 1999 and 2000, the same two years Jim Harbaugh was with the Chargers.
Rob Chudzinski
Chudzinski, 45, was recently fired after just one season as the coach of the Cleveland Browns. He was an offensive coordinator with the Carolina Panthers in 2011 and 2012. He has also been an offensive coordinator with the Browns (2007-08) and at the University of Miami (2001-03).
Jeff Davidson
Davidson, 46, is a former NFL offensive lineman who is a highly regarded offensive line coach. He has been the Vikings’ line coach since 2011. Prior to that, he was the Panthers’ offensive coordinator from 2007-10. He was also an offensive coordinator with the Browns in 2006.
Randy Fichtner
Fichtner, 50, has been on the Pittsburgh Steelers’ staff since Mike Tomlin was hired as coach in 2007. He was the Steelers’ wide receivers coach from 2007-09 and has been the quarterbacks coach since 2010.
He has never been an offensive coordinator in the NFL, but he was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at the University of Memphis from 2001-06 and the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Arkansas State from 1997-00. Memphis ranked ninth nationally in total offense under Fichtner in 2004.
Jim Hostler
Hostler, 47, has been the Ravens’ wide receivers coach since 2008 and has been big in the development of Torrey Smith. He was the 49ers’ offensive coordinator in 2007.
Greg Knapp
Knapp, 50, has been an offensive coordinator with five different NFL teams, most recently the Oakland Raiders in 2012, but he’s never lasted as a coordinator for more than three seasons. He is currently the quarterbacks coach with Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos.
Gary Kubiak
Kubiak was recently fired after eight seasons as coach of the Houston Texans. He is a highly thought of offensive mind. He was a quarterback for the Denver Broncos from 1983-91 and was the Broncos’ offensive coordinator from 1995-2005 before taking over with the Texans.
The Broncos had the most total yards in the NFL during that 11-year period (66,501) as well as the most touchdowns (465).
Rhett Lashlee
Lashlee, 30, is the offensive coordinator at the University of Auburn and helped the Tigers reach the National Championship game this season. On Lashlee’s bio on Auburn’s website, Tigers coach Gus Malzahn called Lashlee “one of the best young offensive minds in college football.”
Under Lashlee, Auburn ranked 11th in the country in total offense and first in rushing offense.
Lashlee runs a high-tempo offense built around the read-option at Auburn and previously and successfully ran high-tempo offenses at Arkansas State and Samford. Arkansas State ranked 17th nationally in total offense in 2011.
Joe Lombardi
Lombardi’s grandfather is legendary Green Bay Packers coach Vince Lombardi. He has been the New Orleans Saints’ quarterbacks coach since 2009, working with Pro Bowl quarterback Drew Brees.
Lombardi, 41, also spent a year with the Atlanta Falcons and was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Mercyhurst College from 2002-05.
Philip Montgomery
Montgomery, 40, has been the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Baylor University since 2008. During that time, he has helped develop quarterbacks Robert Griffin III, Nick Florence and Bryce Petty.
Griffin was the No. 2 overall pick in the 2012 NFL draft. Florence threw for 4,309 yards in 2012. Petty threw for 4,200 yards this season with 32 touchdowns and just three interceptions.
Baylor led the country in total offense this season and ranked fifth in passing offense and 13th in rushing offense. The Bears ranked second nationally in total offense in both 2011 and 2012.
Kyle Shanahan
Shanahan reportedly interviewed for the Ravens’ offensive coordinator job on Wednesday. Shanahan, the son of longtime NFL coach Mike Shanahan, has been an offensive coordinator since 2008, when he was just 28 years old.
Shanahan and his father were both fired by the Washington Redskins in December after a tumultuous 2013 season, but the Redskins ranked fifth in the NFL in total offense under Shanahan in 2012. The Texans also ranked among the top-5 in the league in total offense under Shanahan in both 2008 and 2009.
Glenn Thomas
Thomas has been quarterback Matt Ryan’s position coach with the Atlanta Falcons the last two seasons and has been with the Falcons since 2008. Prior to that, he was the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Division II Midwestern St. from 2005-07. Midwestern St. led Division II in total offense and rushing offense under Thomas in 2007.
Thomas also has ties to the Ravens. According to his bio on the Falcons’ website, Thomas spent time helping out with Baltimore’s wide receivers in 2002, 2003 and 2005.
At the end of the day they need guys at the coordinator positions that are going to be on the same page with Pettine and buy into the culture here. That is really the most critical thing.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
I wonder if the choice for OC will foreshadow the Browns intentions in the draft in regards to Manziel vs more traditional QB's available? It seems at this point that we'll have to choose from QB coaches around the league that work for successful OC's.
In an interview Pettine said he's had a running list of guys he liked for some time. I think he will choose and not be pigeon holed into some guy we or the media likes.
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