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So are they saying Kubiak wanted control over the offensive roster? I'm confused what "more control" would mean for an OC. How could you get much more control than with a rookie defensive minded HC?
OTOH, regardless of the control issue, i'd much rather be an OC for the Ravens offense than the browns.
I think the problem was that he wanted to bring in 5 of his asst. coaches.
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Looks like the Browns were interested in Kubiak, but Kubiak (reportedly) wanted more power than the Browns were willing to give up. Kubiak likely to be the Ravens next OC.
Kubiak to Ravens?
Kubiak wanted control
we lose a shot at a great oc because banner is power hungry and arrogant enough to fancy himself a football guru.....
How do you know it was Banner, it could have been Pettine.
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You mean like trading a WR with mental issues and problems with the law? 
Some reports indicate that Banner and company were aware of the issues, some say they don't/didn't know - in any case my friend, you don't buy an used car without looking at the car fax report 
These players are x10 more expensive than an used car - so I can't cut Lombardi/Banner/Haslam any slack on that poor decision with Bess. Unless it was an "educated gamble" or an aware-risk, I would find it beyond insane if they had no clue he was a nut job before making the trade. Especially since some reports said we were interested in him prior to the draft trade.
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The facts don't bear out your theory.
Risk/reward would have been the trade.Pure stupidity would be the contract extension he was given.
Just a dumb,dumb,dumb move.
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we lose a shot at a great oc because banner is power hungry and arrogant enough to fancy himself a football guru.....
My assumption was that Pettine didn't want Kubiak around if he wanted to be a "head coach of the offense" type of a guy.
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 So you wanted a power struggle between the OC and the HC? 
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I hope we don't get stuck on the " We want the experienced, big name OC" carousel. Just more retreads who've been round n round, fired, hired and refired. Looks like a fairly young staff forming and I'd like to see a younger guy with promise. I'm sure there's a few out there and will trust Pettine to find one.
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Loggain is the young OC we are apparently considering right now.
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The facts don't bear out your theory.
Risk/reward would have been the trade.Pure stupidity would be the contract extension he was given.
Just a dumb,dumb,dumb move.
Honestly, I forgot all about the three year contract extension. Talk about making a darker place even more darker. Better off having kept that forgotten.
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Per Albert Breer/NFL Network, the Cowboys could replace OC Bill Callahan with Scott Linehan & if so, Callahan would become a candidate for us.
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According to Ed Werder it looks like Callahan would stay on in Dallas even if Linehan were hired.
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The Cowboys are a huge mess. Garrett already didn't want to give up the playcalling to Callahan. Then Callahan stunk, but he's still the offensive coordinator. So now they are trying to hire Linehan. To do what? What will his title be? Playcaller? It reminds me of when the Redskins hired some dude off the street mid-season to be an offensive consultant. What a disaster.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/19386...s-to-call-plays
Apparently, Jerry Jones won't let Callahan leave. Callahan is under contract and Jones is willing to pay him to keep him from going elsewhere.
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Apparently, Jerry Jones won't let Callahan leave. Callahan is under contract and Jones is willing to pay him to keep him from going elsewhere.
Man, I bet Callahan makes like 600k a year. I'd ask Jerry for the spring/summer/season off, and get high for 8 months or so. Watch football all week on the couch with some great snacks, do a little arm chair scouting and come back next season refreshed and ready to go.
 Sure wish I could do that. I hate having to live in the adult world with adult responsibilties.......
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Looks like the Browns were interested in Kubiak, but Kubiak (reportedly) wanted more power than the Browns were willing to give up. Kubiak likely to be the Ravens next OC.
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we lose a shot at a great oc because banner is power hungry and arrogant enough to fancy himself a football guru.....
It was Pettine that put the kibosh on Kubiak. Kubiak wanted some powers left to the HC and Pettine wasn't willing to give them up.
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Looks like the Browns were interested in Kubiak, but Kubiak (reportedly) wanted more power than the Browns were willing to give up. Kubiak likely to be the Ravens next OC.
Kubiak to Ravens?
Kubiak wanted control
we lose a shot at a great oc because banner is power hungry and arrogant enough to fancy himself a football guru.....
How do you know it was Banner, it could have been Pettine.
From what I understand, it was Pettine.
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Like I said earlier, what a mess.
I wonder how this will effect the Cowboys going forward after Callahan's contract is finally over after next season. Callahan won't have anything nice to say about Jerry Jones, I'm sure.
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Apparently, Jerry Jones won't let Callahan leave. Callahan is under contract and Jones is willing to pay him to keep him from going elsewhere.
Man, I bet Callahan makes like 600k a year. I'd ask Jerry for the spring/summer/season off, and get high for 8 months or so. Watch football all week on the couch with some great snacks, do a little arm chair scouting and come back next season refreshed and ready to go.
Sure wish I could do that. I hate having to live in the adult world with adult responsibilties.......
Callahan could simply 'retire' for the season, take no money from Jones and be done with it. Jones wouldn't own his contract after next season anyway. He could simply 'retire' for a season and not assist the Cowboys in any way.
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Looks like the Browns were interested in Kubiak, but Kubiak (reportedly) wanted more power than the Browns were willing to give up. Kubiak likely to be the Ravens next OC.
Kubiak to Ravens?
Kubiak wanted control
we lose a shot at a great oc because banner is power hungry and arrogant enough to fancy himself a football guru.....
How do you know it was Banner, it could have been Pettine.
From what I understand, it was Pettine.
IIRC, Kubiak wanted a "pseudo-head coach" title or something but Browns said no
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New Browns coach Mike Pettine has hired former Buffalo Bills linebackers coach Jim O’Neil as his defensive coordinator and retained special-teams coordinator Chris Tabor, the team announced.
Pettine also hired four other assistants and retained two others. The moves and backgrounds of the coaches are outlined below in a news release from the Browns.
Assembling his initial coaching staff as head coach of the Cleveland Browns, Mike Pettine on Monday hired his first eight assistant coaches.
Pettine on Monday hired two of his three coordinators, Jim O’Neil (defense) and Chris Tabor (special teams). Additionally, Pettine named Brian Angelichio tight ends coach, Bobby Babich assistant secondary coach, Chuck Driesbach linebackers coach, Brian Fleury assistant linebackers coach, Jeff Hafley secondary coach and Shawn Mennenga assistant special teams coach.
Defensive coordinator Jim O’Neil
O’Neil has 13 years of coaching experience and spent the 2013 season as the linebackers coach for the Buffalo Bills. With Buffalo, O’Neil worked with the outside linebackers, who helped the Bills set a franchise record with 57 sacks, second-most in the NFL in 2013. The Bills defense finished 10th (333.4) in the NFL in total defense, after finishing 22nd (362.9) in 2012. Buffalo also led the NFL in opponent completion percentage (55.3), and finished second in interceptions (23), third in opponent quarterback rating (74.9), fourth in passing defense (204.4), sixth in yards per play (4.90) and tied for sixth in takeaways (30).
Prior to Buffalo, O’Neil spent four seasons with the New York Jets, first as defensive quality control/defensive backs coach in 2009 before three years (2010-12) as assistant defensive backs coach. While working with the Jets’ secondary, New York’s passing defense finished second in the NFL in 2012 (189.8), fifth in 2011 (201.0), sixth in 2010 (200.6) and first in 2009 (153.7). During his four years with New York, the Jets defense over those combined seasons ranked first in the NFL in opposing quarterback rating (71.0), completion percentage (52.6) and passing yards per game (186.3). The Jets defense yielded the second-fewest yards per game (294.8) and allowed just nine 100-yard receiving games from 2009-2012, fewest in the league.
O’Neil helped CB Darrelle Revis to three (2009-11) Pro Bowls and three (2009-11) first-team Associated Press All-Pro selections. Revis led the AFC and finished third in the NFL with 21 passes defensed in 2011. O’Neil also worked with CB Antonio Cromartie and SS LaRon Landry, who were selected to the Pro Bowl following the 2012 season.
Prior to entering the NFL coaching ranks, O’Neil spent eight years on the college level. From 2006-08, he served as the recruiting coordinator and safeties coach at Eastern Michigan. He also had stints at Towson in 2005 (defensive coordinator), Northwestern from 2003-04 (graduate assistant/defensive backs), Pennsylvania in 2002 (assistant offensive line) and SUNY-Albany in 2001 (assistant offensive line/tight ends).
O’Neil was a three-year starter as a defensive lineman at Towson and served as a team captain in 2000. He earned a bachelor’s degree in sports management from Towson. He also earned a master of arts degree in liberal studies from Northwestern and a master of science degree in education from SUNY-Albany.
A two-way lineman at Central Bucks West High School in Doylestown, Pa., O’Neil helped the school to a 31-4 record. The team also captured three consecutive Suburban One League National Conference championships.
Special teams coordinator Chris Tabor
Chris Tabor, retained by Pettine, was initially named the Browns’ special teams coordinator in 2011. Tabor in 2012 helped kicker Phil Dawson and kick returner Josh Cribbs to the Pro Bowl, marking just the second time in team history that two specialists made the annual all-star game in the same year (2008, Cribbs and LS Ryan Pontbriand). The Pro Bowl selection was the first of Dawson’s 14-year career.
Prior to joining the Browns, Tabor spent three seasons (2008-10) as assistant special teams coach with Chicago. During Tabor’s tenure with the Bears, Chicago consistently ranked among the league leaders in numerous departments.
Tabor has helped shape some of the NFL’s top return specialists, such as Danieal Manning, Johnny Knox and Devin Hester in Chicago; and Cribbs and Travis Benjamin in Cleveland.
Prior to Chicago, Tabor spent two seasons at Western Michigan University (2006-07) as the running backs and special teams coach. He spent also four seasons at Utah State University, where he was the running backs and special teams coach in 2005 after serving as the Aggies’ assistant head coach in charge of wide receivers from 2002-04.
Tabor coached at Central Methodist College (1995-96) in Fayette, Mo., before spending four seasons at the Missouri. He spent his first three years with the Tigers as an offensive graduate assistant (1997-99) before moving into the role of running backs and special teams coach in 2000. He was also the head coach at Culver-Stockton College in Canton, Mo., in 2001.
From 1993-94, Tabor gained experience at the community-college and high-school levels, coaching at Hutchinson (Kan.) Community College (1994) and Benton High School (1993) in St. Joseph, Mo.
Tabor graduated from Benedictine College in Atchison, Kan., where he played four seasons at quarterback. He earned a master’s degree in education from Columbia (Mo.) College.
Tight ends coach Brian Angelichio
Angelichio, entering his 20th year in coaching, joins the Browns from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where he spent the past two seasons coaching tight ends. Previously, he coached tight ends at Rutgers (2011) and the University of Pittsburgh (2006-10), where he coached a pair of all-conference players, 2010 NFL Draft choices Nate Byham and Dorin Dickerson.
Angelichio started his career in 1995 as the secondary coach at SUNY-Brockport, and then spent 10 seasons at Ithaca College, where he coached linebackers (1996-97), receivers (1998) and the offensive line (1999-00) before serving as offensive coordinator/offensive line coach (2000-05). While with the Bombers, Angelichio tutored seven All-Americans, helping the team advance to the postseason in seven of his 10 years. While in charge of the offense, he led a unit that set or tied 30 team or individual records over his final five seasons.
Assistant defensive backs coach Bobby Babich
Babich, interviewed and retained by Pettine, first joined the Browns as assistant defensive backs coach in 2013. He spent the previous two seasons with the Carolina Panthers as a defensive assistant (2012) and administrative assistant for the coaching staff (2011), assisting with day-to-day operations and working with the nickel backs.
Prior to joining the Panthers, Babich served as secondary coach at Eastern Illinois from 2007-10.
Originally from Tulsa, Okla., Babich began his coaching career in 2006 as a graduate assistant at Kent State. A four-year letterman as a cornerback at North Dakota State, Babich was a two-time academic all-conference honoree and led the team as a senior with three interceptions. His father, Bob, has coached in the NFL since 2003 and is currently the defensive coordinator of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Linebackers coach Chuck Driesbach
Driesbach spent last season as linebackers coach with the Buffalo Bills following 36 years coaching on the college level. With Buffalo, Driesbach worked with the inside linebackers, teaming with Pettine and O’Neil to complete one of the best seasons by an NFL defense in 2013. Driesbach oversaw the development of second-round pick Kiki Alonso, a linebacker who was named the Professional Football Writers of America (PFWA) 2013 Defensive Rookie of the Year, and was the only defensive finalist for the 2013 Pepsi Next NFL Rookie of the Year award, which will be announced Saturday. Alonso tied for the team lead with four interceptions, including a streak with one in three consecutive games. That marked the first three-game interception streak by an NFL rookie linebacker since 1980, and the first by a Bills rookie linebacker in team history. He registered a season-high 22 tackles in an overtime game against Cincinnati (Oct. 13), the most by a Bills linebacker since 1997. On the season, Alonso also had two sacks, a forced fumble and a pair of fumble recoveries.
Prior to Buffalo, Driesbach spent five years (2007-11) as the assistant head coach/defensive coordinator at Rice. Before Rice, Driesbach spent two years (2005-06) as the cornerbacks coach at Michigan State. He also served as the defensive coordinator at Ole Miss (2002-04), TCU (2001), Western Michigan (1997-2000), Pittsburgh (1993-96) and Cornell (1990-92).
Driesbach has helped developed numerous future NFL players, including Ole Miss linebacker Patrick Willis, who was the 2007 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year.
Driesbach’s resume includes a two-year stop at East Carolina (1987-88), where he worked with the running backs in addition to performing the duties of admissions and academic coordinator. He spent three seasons at Wake Forest (1984-86), where he coached on both sides of the ball. He worked with the defensive line for two years before overseeing the receivers and tight ends in 1986.
He began his coaching career at Kansas State, where he spent eight seasons (1976-83), including three years as a graduate assistant and five more as a full-time assistant. As a graduate assistant, Driesbach worked primarily with the tight ends and receivers, including future NFL All-Pro Paul Coffman. From 1979-83, Driesbach coached the Wildcats’ defensive secondary.
A three-year starting wide receiver at Villanova, he earned a bachelor’s degree in liberal arts in 1975. Driesbach graduated from Central Bucks West High School in Doylestown, Pa.
Assistant linebackers coach Brian Fleury
Fleury was defensive quality control coach on the Bills staff in 2013, his first season in the NFL. He spent the previous four years (2009-12) as secondary coach and special teams coordinator at Towson University, where he played a significant role in the Tigers’ drive to back-to-back Colonial Athletic Association championships (2011-12). Under his guidance, the Tigers defense led the conference in total defense and passing defense. An assistant at Sacred Heart University for four seasons (2005-08), he spent one year (2005) as secondary coach and the final three (2006-08) as defensive coordinator. Fleury began his coaching career as a graduate assistant at Maryland in 2003, where he spent two seasons helping to coach the secondary.
A first-team all-state quarterback as a senior at Seneca Valley High School in Germantown, Md., Fleury led his team to the state championship in 1997, then signed with Maryland. After transferring to Towson, he finished his playing career as a four-year signal-caller before graduating with a degree in sport management.
Secondary coach Jeff Hafley
Hafley begins his third season in the NFL, after spending the previous two years with Tampa Bay, including 2013 as safeties coach. He joined the Bucs in 2012 as assistant defensive backs coach.
Prior to entering the NFL, Hafley spent 11 years on the collegiate sideline with coaching stints at Worcester Polytechnic (2001), Albany (2002-05), Pitt (2006-10) and Rutgers (2011).
A four-year letterman (1997-2000) as a wide receiver at Siena College, he graduated in 2001 with a bachelor’s degree in history.
Assistant special teams coach Shawn Mennenga
Mennenga enters his fourth season as the Browns’ assistant special teams coach, having first joined the team in 2011.
Prior to joining the Browns, Mennenga spent the 2009-10 seasons as the linebackers coach at South Dakota State. Before joining South Dakota State’s staff, Mennenga spent four seasons (2005-08) as the defensive coordinator at Fort Hays State University in Hays, Kan. He spent the previous four years at Culver-Stockton College in Canton, Mo., where he served one season as the Wildcats’ defensive coordinator (2001) and the final three as the team’s head coach (2002-04).
During his collegiate coaching career, he has also held assistant positions at Hutchinson Community College (defensive coordinator – 1998-2000), Western Kentucky (outside linebackers – 1997) and Southwest Baptist (1995-96 – secondary; 1994 – graduate assistant).
Mennenga lettered one season as a defensive back at the University of Missouri in 1992.
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Looks like the Browns were interested in Kubiak, but Kubiak (reportedly) wanted more power than the Browns were willing to give up. Kubiak likely to be the Ravens next OC.
Kubiak to Ravens?
Kubiak wanted control
we lose a shot at a great oc because banner is power hungry and arrogant enough to fancy himself a football guru.....
How do you know it was Banner, it could have been Pettine.
From what I understand, it was Pettine.
IIRC, Kubiak wanted a "pseudo-head coach" title or something but Browns said no
I don't know what's true and accurate, I just know that as long as I don't know the facts, I can't blame anyone in particular.
See, I didn't even need Twitter to know that I didn't know something.. 
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Looks like the Browns were interested in Kubiak, but Kubiak (reportedly) wanted more power than the Browns were willing to give up. Kubiak likely to be the Ravens next OC.
Kubiak to Ravens?
Kubiak wanted control
we lose a shot at a great oc because banner is power hungry and arrogant enough to fancy himself a football guru.....
How do you know it was Banner, it could have been Pettine.
From what I understand, it was Pettine.
I am sure, but the whiners continue.
STOP the whining.....you sound like a bunch of whimps....this is the new brand of Cleveland fan? If so, you need some retraining.
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As the Browns continue their search for an offensive coordinator, coaches with ties to Pettine are a good place to start By Chris Fedor, Northeast Ohio Media Group January 27, 2014 at 9:03 PM CLEVELAND, Ohio - The Cleveland Browns finally have a head coach. Now that Mike Pettine is on board, he needs to fill out his staff. Oftentimes first-time head coaches like to hire assistants that they are familiar with. Pettine raided the Bills' staff, hiring four of them to his staff, including Jim O'Neil, who will serve as defensive coordinator. Defense is Pettine's strength, having served on Rex Ryan's staff before stepping out of the shadows. But offense has been a problem in Cleveland, and Pettine is still looking for his offensive coordinator. A first-year NFL head coach, he could help himself by hiring an someone with experience. Some names have been linked to Cleveland. One coach that will not be coming is Gary Kubiak. The former Texans head coach is joining the Baltimore Ravens, and will become the new offensive coordinator for the Browns' division rival. Cam Cameron, who the Browns were also rumored to be interested in, is apparently staying at LSU. The following is a list of candidates that have either been linked to the Browns offensive coordinator position, make sense when connecting the dots or have caught my attention. Dowell Loggains – He was part of the wreckage in Tennessee when the Titans decided to get rid of Mike Munchak. Loggains, 33, spent six years in Tennessee. He served as offensive coordinator (2012-2013), quarterbacks coach (2010-2012) and offensive quality control coach (2008-2009). Known as a strong play caller, Loggains has worked with a number of successful coordinators, including Sean Payton, Norm Chow, Mike Heimerdinger and former Browns coach Chris Palmer. The Titans were 4-2, averaging nearly 24 points before QB Jake Locker suffered a season-ending foot injury. Before getting hurt, Locker had tossed eight touchdowns against four interceptions and was making positive strides. Mary Kay Cabot says the Browns have an interest. Bill Callahan, Dallas Cowboys OL coach/OC – Right now there is a lot of speculation about the Dallas Cowboys. If Scott Linehan, who is reportedly in Dallas, takes a job, it could lead to Callahan's departure. Callahan would become one of the most experienced assistants on the market. His NFL career started in 1995 with the Philadelphia Eagles. After three years in Philly, Callahan took over as Oakland Raiders head coach before becoming the head coach in 2002. Fired by the Raiders at the end of the 2003 season, Callahan went back to the college ranks and served as Nebraska head coach. His last two stops have been in New York, where he worked with Pettine and currently in Dallas. He may not be going anywhere though. Kyle Shanahan – Once looked at as a future coaching star, the shine is starting to fade a bit. Fired along with his father after a 3-13 season in Washington, Shanahan is looking for a fresh start. Aside from this past season, his resume looks appealing. He helped Robert Griffin III become Offensive Rookie of the Year in 2012. Before that, Shanahan became the youngest coordinator in the league when he took over Houston's offense in 2008. He has helped two different offenses rise to the Top 10. A former college wideout, his system is very WR-friendly. First it was Andre Johnson in Houston, who recorded career highs in yards and touchdowns with Shanahan calling plays. This past season it was Pierre Garcon in Washington. With Josh Gordon emerging as a star, it could be a very good marriage between the Browns and the 34-year-old offensive mind. Matt Cavanaugh, Chicago Bears QB coach – The ties between Cavanaugh and Pettine run deep. It was Cavanaugh who helped Pettine land his first job in the NFL with the Baltimore Ravens. Not only were they together in Baltimore in the early 2000s when Cavanaugh was the Ravens' offensive coordinator from 1999-2004, but they also worked on Rex Ryan's staff together in New York just a few years ago. Cavanaugh, a native of Youngstown, has experience as an offensive coordinator, and works well with QBs. Could Pettine reward him more than a decade later for opening the first door and make the 57-year-old Cavanaugh an offensive coordinator once again? George "Geep" Chryst, San Francisco 49ers QB coach – He has over 20 years of coaching experience, including 18 seasons in the NFL. After strong work with the Carolina Panthers running game between 2006 and 2010, Chryst took over as San Francisco QB coach in 2011. That year he helped guide QB Alex Smith to his breakout season. Jim Harbaugh has gotten much of the credit for Smith's improvement and the rise of Colin Kaepernick, but Geep, has been in the background. He also has two years of being an offensive coordinator with the San Diego Chargers on his resume. Randy Fichtner, Pittsburgh Steelers QB coach – The Cleveland native began his NFL coaching career with the Pittsburgh Steelers in 2007. He started as the wide receivers coach, where he helped develop Santonio Holmes into a Super Bowl MVP and Mike Wallace into a Pro Bowl player. For the last four seasons, Fichtner has coached the Steelers' quarterbacks. He's 50 years old and doesn't have experience calling plays. But owner Jimmy Haslam has a familiarity with him. Mike Bloomgren, Stanford director of offense/OL coach – He spent time with Pettine in New York. While Pettine was making his mark on defense, Bloomgren was the Jets' assistant offensive coordinator from 2009-2011. He left the NFL following the 2011 season, and joined Stanford's coaching staff. Bloomgren is now the director of offense and OL coach for the Cardinal. Jim Hostler, Baltimore Ravens WR coach – He has done a good job with Torrey Smith and the Ravens' wideouts. Hostler’s resume has offensive coordinator experience on it, although that’s probably a time that he would like to forget. He was publicly criticized by 49ers running back Frank Gore, who felt he wasn't utilized properly as the San Francisco rushing attack finished near the bottom of the league. Fired once as offensive coordinator, he is probably not an ideal candidate to run the Browns' offense. But the ties with Pettine are there as they were on the Baltimore staff together once before. Rick Neuheisel – Also a part of the Ravens’ staff when Pettine served as outside linebackers’ coach, Neuheisel has been off the sidelines since 2011. His last stop was at UCLA as head coach where he compiled a record of 87-59. He has experience as offensive coordinator and works with quarterbacks (2005-2006 in Baltimore). Dick Beck – Hey, why not? The Browns apparently have an affinity for North Penn high school, talking about the impressive mark Pettine set when he was coaching there and what Pettine's father did before that. Beck was Pettine's assistant at one time and has since taken over as North Penn's head coach, leading the team to an impressive 10-4 record this past season. (No, I'm not really being serious about this one).
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Mike Bloomgren, Stanford director of offense/OL coach – He spent time with Pettine in New York. While Pettine was making his mark on defense, Bloomgren was the Jets' assistant offensive coordinator from 2009-2011. He left the NFL following the 2011 season, and joined Stanford's coaching staff. Bloomgren is now the director of offense and OL coach for the Cardinal.
he gets my vote
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Him or Matt Cavanaugh does sound intriguing.
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Cleveland now talking to former Redskins OC Kyle Shanahan, according to multiple league sources.
John Keim, ESPN.com Redskins Reporter
I don't know how everyone else feels but I would love to have Kyle Shanahan. The guy was a genius just last year and then RGIII gets hurt and now he is a dunce. And the Redskins still had the ninth best offense in yardage.
I think it would do him some good to get him out of the Shanhan/Kubiak bubble.
I believe I read somewhere that if we hire someone else as offensive coordinator then Loggains will be our QB coach. I think that is also a pretty good situation.
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I like the idea of Kyle Shannahan. And yeah, I agree. It can't be bad for him to get away from his father/Gary Kubiak and make some new tracks in the NFL.
The Titans ex-OC sounds interesting to me also. And so does the guy from Stanford University. But in reality, all I really know about those two is what I read in the article.
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Shanahan and Loaggins... I could live with that. 
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Shanahan and Loaggins... I could live with that.
we would still need an OL coach. i wouldn't mind Loaggins bringing Bruce Matthews along. He still needs a job.
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Shanahan and Loaggins... I could live with that.
we would still need an OL coach. i wouldn't mind Loaggins bringing Bruce Matthews along. He still needs a job.
I believe we will carry over Mike Sullivan from Chud's coaching staff. For whatever reason we had two offensive line coaches last year. One (Warhop) left, the other (Sullivan) is still listed on the official page.
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Per @john_keim, Browns are talking to Kyle Shanahan about their OC post. I mentioned Oakland's John DeFilippo as another candidate last nite
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John DeFilippo rejoins the Raiders as quarterbacks coach in 2012. DeFilippo, who coached quarterbacks for the Silver and Black from 2007-08, coached at San Jose State for the last two seasons, serving as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach in 2011, and quarterbacks coach in 2010. He was assistant quarterbacks coach for the New York Jets in 2009.
Last season, the Spartans ranked 23rd in the nation with 276.8 passing yards per game and jumped 32 places nationally in total offense from the previous year. The team also set a single season school record with 297 pass completions. DeFilippo tutored QB Matt Faulkner, who ranked second in the Western Athletic Conference in passing by completing 274 of 422 attempts for 3,149 yards and 13 touchdowns. In 2010, he coached QB Jordan La Secla, who was with the Raiders in training camp last season.
As assistant quarterbacks coach for the Jets in 2009, he helped coach rookie QB Mark Sanchez, who led the Jets to the AFC Championship in his first season as a pro.
DeFilippo’s NFL coaching career began with the New York Giants in 2005, when he served as offensive quality control coach on Tom Coughlin’s staff for two years. He helped the Giants to two postseason appearances, and New York posted a 19-13 regular-season record during his time there.
He joined the Giants after two seasons as quarterbacks coach at Columbia, where he tutored QB Jeff Otis, who left the school ranked second in program history in completions and passing yards, and went on to spend time on the Raiders practice squad.
From 2001-02, DeFilippo was a graduate assistant at Notre Dame, working with wide receivers and tight ends under Bob Davie in 2001, and with quarterbacks under Tyrone Willingham in 2002. He helped lead the Irish to an 8-0 start in 2002, with wins over No. 7 Michigan and No. 11 Florida State, and a Gator Bowl berth.
He began his coaching career tutoring quarterbacks at Fordham in 2000.
DeFilippo was a four-year letterwinner, playing quarterback at James Madison University and helped the team to a conference title as a senior in 1999. He held NFL summer coaching internships with the Carolina Panthers in 1997 and the Indianapolis Colts in 1998. A native of Youngstown, Ohio, DeFilippo’s father, Gene, is the athletic director at Boston College.
So he was the QB/offensive coordinator for David Fales in college and was the QB for Pryor and McGloin and they looked semi-competent. Not bad.
If we hire some of the guys were are rumored to be hiring we are going to have a very young staff.
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If they're serious about Manziel, they should be talking to Shanahan.
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If they're serious about Manziel, they should be talking to Shanahan.
They are and they are.
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In Cleveland, Bills defensive line coach Anthony Weaver will be the new DL coach for the Browns per source
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Anthony Weaver will enter his second season in the NFL and first with the Buffalo Bills in 2013 as the team’s defensive line coach. He spent the previous year as the assistant defensive line coach of the New York Jets under defensive coordinator Mike Pettine.
Prior to joining the Jets’ staff in 2012, Weaver was the linebackers coach at North Texas University in 2011. He spent 2010 as a defensive graduate assistant at Florida.
Weaver enjoyed a seven year NFL playing career from 2002-08. He entered the NFL as a second-round draft choice of the Baltimore Ravens in 2002 and spent the 2002-05 seasons with the Ravens before three years with the Houston Texans. In 103 games played with 98 starts, Weaver recorded 260 tackles, 15.5 sacks, three interceptions and five forced fumbles.
In 2007, Weaver was recognized as the recipient of the Ed Block Courage Award – an annual recognition of one player from every NFL team who exemplifies the principles of sportsmanship and courage.
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Weaver, native of Saratoga Springs, NY, was a four-year starter at defensive end at Notre Dame, earning All-America accolades and was a 2001 team captain… tabbed the Irish’s Most Valuable Player and Lineman of the Year following his senior campaign… tallied 154 tackles, 17.0 sacks and 42 tackles for a loss in his collegiate career... Weaver is engaged to Kristin Cardenas, and has a son, Anthony Weaver, Jr.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/103644...coordinator-job
Rather we look at Brian Schottenheimer. Not really a read option guy which is what Kyle ran with Griffin. But Griffin came from that; and that is how he came into the NFL.
Shanahan hopefully will be flexible enough to develop a scheme to fit the strengths of the team personnel.
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Rather we look at Brian Schottenheimer.
Schottenheimer is not available and not good. He couldn't figure out a way to use Tavon Austin until late in the season and was terrible with the Jets.
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Everyone is terrible w/the Jets offense.
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Everyone is terrible w/the Jets offense.
This is true.
But Schottenheimer is overhyped for some reason. Look at his Pro Football Reference page. He has coordinated one semi-good offense in eight seasons as an offensive coordinator.
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If they're serious about Manziel, they should be talking to Shanahan.
Wrong. They can serious about any QB and look at Shannahan.
He runs a zone blocking scheme and many a back has benefited from zone blocking.
It requires athletic guards, not the plodding ones we have.
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Schottenheimer's teams seem to improve when he arrives, and decline when he leaves. I think that shows that he is a capable coach.
My question with him would be developing a young QB. Maybe pairing him with a bright young QB coach would be a solid answer.
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