Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,480
L
Hall of Famer
OP Offline
Hall of Famer
L
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,480
Just figured I'd put this here for people who like to watch film. It is basically a database linking to youtube videos for most of the top draft prospects:

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/


~Lyuokdea
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,447
P
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,447
WOW this is amazing! I don't think I'll have a life anymore.

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 18,985
M
Legend
Offline
Legend
M
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 18,985
Awesome. Thanks for sharing this!


At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499
V
Legend
Offline
Legend
V
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499
Thanks man.............very nice.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,882
P
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
P
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,882
This should be a sticky so it can be utilized easily for the next few months.


[Linked Image]
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,475
E
Legend
Offline
Legend
E
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,475
no time to open now and view as I will be wanting to look for hours.

Thanks for sharing and one question - are these game videos or just high lights?


Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off!
Go Browns!
CHRIST HAS RISEN!

GM Strong! & Stay safe everyone!
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
BpG Offline
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
Quote:

no time to open now and view as I will be wanting to look for hours.

Thanks for sharing and one question - are these game videos or just high lights?




It's every snap where they are involved. I've loved this site for breaking down the QB's. It's where I started finding Manzeil more and more a pro prospect.

So many good QB's with size issues in this draft, Murray, Garapallo, Manziel.


Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
It's better (for volume). He cuts up all the plays a player participates in in a game and sews them together. Nothing beats watching the whole game for the context and anything that might be left out in the cut-up (sideline reports, injuries, physchological context, etc) but for watching a lot of stuff on a particular guy it's invaluable. There are a couple guys who have been doing this for years (this one and JMPasq / JMPasqDraftJedi) and now a couple other guys are getting into it. The two big guys have twitter feeds and announce when they have a new one come out.

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,370
A
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
A
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,370
I would recommend looking at the Mettenberger ones. His arm is a rifle with the footballs being bullets, except he has touch on the short passes and some really good accuracy.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,858
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,858
Thanks for the link

It's funny, the other day, I read an article about Johnny Manzeil that stated he was 5-11 and this site has him at 6-1.


#GMSTRONG

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan

"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
BpG Offline
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
Quote:

I would recommend looking at the Mettenberger ones. His arm is a rifle with the footballs being bullets, except he has touch on the short passes and some really good accuracy.




I watched the Georgia game and the Alabama game, I could not care less how he plays against cupcakes.

Here are my thoughts:

- Jarvis Landry is pretty good man, haha


Pros:
- Strong Arm
- Natural Thrower
- Tall, not sure his measurable but he is really tall in the pocket.
- Good touch as you said.



Cons:
- Stiff, slow. He doesn't move very well at all and you'll have to question that even more with the injury he suffered at the end of the season. Twice on that same knee if I'm not mistaken.
-Struggles with pressure up the middle badly. If he is not getting all day he struggles, holds the ball.
- Georgia was just awful on defense, if you watch that clip, Herbie calls them out for having no idea what they were doing on defense on at least three occasions. He doesn't recognize them and stays with his primary.
- Does not throw as well on the run.
- For as strong as his arm his, I was not impressed with his deep throws.
- Throws way too many passes to guys who are covered. Doesn't seem to grasp the difference between covered and trying to throw them open.


Side notes:

My god, Georgia's defense is horrendous. I see nothing has changed with Todd Grantham.

Alabama had him rattled all day. He could have easily threw two maybe three interceptions, two flat out drops by Bama defenders.

He got sacked 4 straight times at the end of the Bama game and the last one he tore up his knee. God he looked like Brandon Weeden...

I think Cam Cameron did a pretty good job making his reads easy.



Overall, he can certainly throw the football. I'm not seeing much else though, nothing grabs me. I very well could be biased being that we just had a tall, rocket arm stiff, who couldn't reach coverage in Brandon Weeden. Mettenberger has more touch, but he should be a late day two pick at best unless he wows someone at his pro day.

JMO

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,761
D
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
D
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,761
Great site. Been using it for the past drafts too.

I've randomly watched some specs I was curious about. Watched almost all the FS and it's another underwhelming class. Here's my take, fwiw:

- I like Pryor, he's very aggressive, constantly attacking the ball, almost to a fault, but am not sure he's worthy of a 1st. Guess position scarcity could make it happen though.

- like Brooks too, but he's a mid rounder. There's something about his game that doesn't convince me.

- I've been looking for a sleeper at FS, but was underwhelmed with the slated late round options. Only guy that really left an impression was Avery Patterson from Oregon, who looked very good in coverage with great feel for zone positioning, constantly moving while keeping his eyes on the QB. Too bad he's 5'9, cause dude can play. He's also much more physical than the AVG FS in this class. He's a guy I'll keep an eye on for sure

Other's I watched:

- serious sleeper alert on ILB James Morris from Iowa. He's not a thumper, but dude can cover and blitz from the ILB spot, a rare combination. I watched 2 games and was impressed, then I looked up his stats. Dude had 17 TFL, from the ILB spot (!), that's as much or more as guys like Van Noy, Attaochu, Dee Ford, who's main job is to blitz from much better angles.
Iowa had a top 10 D, but somehow next to no players from that D are considered draftable per draftscout/cbs. Their SS T.Miller is also much better than what he's ranked. Same with OLB Kirksey, although he looks more like a 4-3 OLB only.

- Gators C J.Harrison is another player that is much better than his "ranking". I watched for their G Halapio and Harrison was the better player….I would not draft Halapio btw. He was "ok", but don't see much NFL upside. Anyway, watch Harrison. I saw a pretty good C prospect.

- sold on CB EJ Gaines. I would draft him as high as 71 and would not be disappointed if we'd draft him at 26 or 35. He's a top 50 player imho

That's it for now…so much more to watch...


#gmstrong

"Players come along at different points in time" - Ray Farmer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
BpG Offline
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
Bumping this with my AJ McCaron Review.

Strengths:
- He's a little more mobile than he looks.
- Smart, senses pressure well, knows when to throw it away.
- Arm Strength is adequate, not elite
- He's tall and had a ton of wins.


Weaknesses
- Accuracy issues, high, low
- Footwork breaks down, throws off back foot when faced with pressure.
- Short arms some throws with pressure
- Too quick to check down, goes from read 1 to checkdown too often.
- Doesn't throw well on the run at all.
- So much talent on Alabama, he checks it down and it;s a first down almost every time.

Watch: 0:50 - 1:10, just ew.

Also Watch 4:55 - 5:05, ew.
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/aj-mccarron-vs-lsu-2013/

Notes:

Despite playing at Alabama, he spend a lot of time in Shotgun.
He is very much a one read QB, he is #1 target -> Checkdown
3:40 - He throws a Brandon Weeden Flip pass.



Conclusion: Game Manager, he looks like a 6'6 Brian Hoyer, minus the lightning quick release. He is a prototype QB, size wise but he is mostly a one read QB despite his more pro style offense. His accuracy needs work, he shy's away from contact in the pocket and his arm is average.

Maybe he's Tom Brady, but he needs works.It all comes down to what type of person he is. Is he a grinder or is he just average, that will dictate his career path as with most players. His upside is high, but his current state isn't worth a first round pick.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
BpG Offline
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
I am a member of another site and a guy took Tevin Reese with a 2nd round pick so I had to watch his tape.

At 163lbs he isn't likely to last in the NFL. I'm not arguing it's not possible, just improbable.


He's fast, he runs go and curls, lazy curls at that. Not once did I see him take any sort of hits over the middle. Hands are beyond suspect, NFL corners will eat him up at the LOS. Despite his speed, there isn't a double move in sight, maybe once in three full games I saw (just watched) on him.



He's fast though. Maybe he's Desean Jackson or maybe he's Jacoby Ford.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
BpG Offline
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,864
Keith Wenning?

I saw the Browns brought him in for a visit so I figured I'd have a look.

Pros
Immediately, (first 5 plays) impressed with his deep ball. Great touch and placement.
If you watch his game against Eastern Michigan, wow, his deeps throws are fantastic. Small windows, over the shoulder throws, deep, Deep out routes, outside the hash with velocity and touch.
Plus arm, one of the better in the draft.
Throws well on the run.
Hand size is good at an even 10



Cons
Ball placement on short and intermediate routes isn't very good, lot's of behind, in front, too high type throws.
Erratic footwork probably causes the above.
Not a great athlete
Almost exclusively works out of shotgun.
Level of competition is horrendous.
Ran slow at the combine and doesn't seem much quicker on tape.




Question marks:

Seems to at least try to manipulate the safeties with his eyes but, it's hard to tell if he is actually going through progressions or just trying to hold the safety.

System, spread, shotgun.

DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2014 NFL Season NFL Draft 2014 Link to Videos of Nearly Every Draft Prospect

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5