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Tebow is so immensely likeable that commercial really sold him for me. I hope he can succeed in the NFL or up in the CFL.
That coke commercial...bleh. I understand celebrating diversity but no one sings America the Beautiful in other languages. So that was pretty much nonsense. Coming from a guy living in Thailand...Outside of possibly Chinese...English is the world language. Diversity be damned lets all speak the same language so we can communicate.
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English is the world language. Diversity be damned lets all speak the same language so we can communicate.
"Tower of Babel," anyone?
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j/c... for balance: 
"too many notes, not enough music-"
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I posed this same argument to a friend today. They ended up doing mental gymnastics around it.
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The other Indian tribes wouldn't even understand as their were 100's of different languages back then, which sure didn't help unite all the tribes 
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The other Indian tribes wouldn't even understand as their were 100's of different languages back then, which sure didn't help unite all the tribes
Have you been to the south? 
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One problem with these types of discussions is that many people assume that English is our official language here in the US. Fact is, there is no official language.
I personally believe that we should have an official language. Not sure if it should be English or called American because our English is much different than the English spoken in England. Lots of implications in doing or not doing this, but way too early in the morning for such a discussion.
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America the Beautiful one of the great patriotic songs.It was written by a Russian born Jewish immigrant.We'll celebrate that fact,but by God you better sing it in English.
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The other Indian tribes wouldn't even understand as their were 100's of different languages back then, which sure didn't help unite all the tribes
Native American is the preferred nomenclature, Dude.
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Not sure I get the outrage for it either. There's reasons to dislike Coca Cola.
That commercial doesn't make the cut.
You are welcome to your opinion and I am welcome to mine. That commercial most definitely was a good reason in my book.
I don't understand the outrage over the Coke commercial. For one of you who is offended by it, can you please tell me why it offended/upset you? I'm legitimately curious.
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Not sure if it should be English or called American because our English is much different than the English spoken in England.
"US and Great Britain: two countries separated by a common language....."
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I'm curious too.
It looked to me that they were just tryin to show the diversity of America and how this country was made.
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Have you been to the south?
Many, many times including one trip to Florida when we had to wait 1 hour to check in at the hotel because nobody working there spoke ENGLISH 
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Native American is the preferred nomenclature, Dude.
Injuns dude
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I'm curious too.
It looked to me that they were just tryin to show the diversity of America and how this country was made.
Yep, same here.
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Crap,I've always thought Irving Berlin wrote that song.Turns out he penned God Bless America,another great one,and cause for my confusion.
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Have you been to the south?
Many, many times including one trip to Florida when we had to wait 1 hour to check in at the hotel because nobody working there spoke ENGLISH
I don't think I've ever waited an hour for anything I hadn't already paid for.
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Many, many times including one trip to Florida when we had to wait 1 hour to check in at the hotel because nobody working there spoke ENGLISH
I find that incredibly hard to believe -- at least that the lack of a common language was the actual problem -- I've probably checked into a dozen hotels without sharing a common language with the staff... I can't say it's ever caused more than about 30 seconds of confusion.
Maybe they were idiots or jerks -- that's a pretty language independent thing that makes check-ins take awhile. Or maybe the room wasn't ready?
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Yeah, I've had more than a few check-ins with a language barrier.
Never really had a problem. Learned a few words and phrases here and there (then promptly forgot most of them).
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Native American is the preferred nomenclature, Dude.
that is not true. American Indian is the preferred term.
http://blog.nmai.si.edu/main/2011/01/int...e-american.html
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Many, many times including one trip to Florida when we had to wait 1 hour to check in at the hotel because nobody working there spoke ENGLISH
Florida isn't part of the south...
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Native American is the preferred nomenclature, Dude.
that is not true. American Indian is the preferred term.
http://blog.nmai.si.edu/main/2011/01/int...e-american.html
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"Indian" is the term used in federal law. It is also the official term used by major U.S. Indian agencies and organizations, including the Bureau of Indian Affairs, Indian Health Service, National Congress of the American Indians, National Indian Education Association, and National Museum of the American Indian. In modern usage, the legal term "Indian" usually means an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe (or one who is eligible to be enrolled in a federally recognized tribe).
I was joking, it was a reference to The Big Lebowski when Walter corrects The Dude. The Dude calls Asian people Chinamen, and Walter corrects him by saying the preferred nomenclature is Asian-American. I was hoping somebody would have picked up on that, I guess I failed.
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j/c Colbert nails it with his take here
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Many, many times including one trip to Florida when we had to wait 1 hour to check in at the hotel because nobody working there spoke ENGLISH
" MARLBORO...MARLBORO.... smokey, smokey, if you cant speak English how'd you get this f'n job" - Sam Kinison
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it just pisses me off how dumb americans can be, saying it was disrespectful to our country over that ad.
i'm part turkish, i speak turkce, i've been in the army for 8 years and deployed 4 times. i DARE somebody to come up to my face in front of my family and say i'm not patriotic because i know how to sing this song in turkce. i'm still american.
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yeah, I do not understand the angst over this ad....seems to me this diversity is what makes us great.
What if we sang it in French, German, Spanish and Swedish.. would that make it better somehow?
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I can sort of understand people's angst over the ad. For me, I strongly prefer that the song is sung in English. I'm not going to go throw a temper tantrum over it, though.
From the reactions, you'd think the ad was a video of somebody walking over and peeing on the American flag. I understand people not liking the ad, but the outrage is too much.
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I find that incredibly hard to believe -- at least that the lack of a common language was the actual problem
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Why don't you guys all go to another country and sing one of their anthems in 'american' and see how it goes?
I suppose we don't really have an identity as a country any more. Maybe we never have.
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Why don't you guys all go to another country and sing one of their anthems in 'american' and see how it goes?
Have you been to Europe before? Because it would really be perfectly fine. They are way more comfortable with the idea of people speaking other languages there (geographically they have to be, of course).
You go to a restaurant in Switzerland, and the wait-staff will pay attention to the language you are speaking as you walk in the door, so that they can address you immediately in the language you are most comfortable with (be it English, French, German, Swiss German, they all speak at least 3 of those 4). Same is true throughout most of Europe.
Edit: I actually recall this exact thing happening in Sweden. I was at a dinner and they had entertainment which was a group of Swedish folk singers (traditional Swedish music). They kept about 75% in Swedish but translated a few songs into English (I believe the singers had mostly done the translation themselves) - for some of the more lyrically interesting songs.
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We are not Europe nor do many of us ever want to live there. Many people want one language spoken in this country, others could care less. We just have a difference in opinion about this subject bro.
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Why don't you guys all go to another country and sing one of their anthems in 'american' and see how it goes?
I suppose we don't really have an identity as a country any more. Maybe we never have.
We have a winner.
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Why don't you guys all go to another country and sing one of their anthems in 'american' and see how it goes?
I can't think of many places that would really care.
I'm sure there are some, though.
I missed the ad when it aired, but upon hearing about it and watching it, I was baffled as to why it's an issue at all.
I was amused hearing some of the discourse, not so much here but on TV/radio...the ones who were whining the most were the type most like to crinkle their faces and roll their eyes at the idea of being 'P.C.'
You just want to smile and say 'pssst...'
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I was amused hearing some of the discourse, not so much here but on TV/radio...the ones who were whining the most were the type most like to crinkle their faces and roll their eyes at the idea of being 'P.C.'
You just want to smile and say 'pssst...'
Heh, hadn't thought of that angle -- everybody likes being PC if it prevents people from saying things they don't like.
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Why don't you guys all go to another country and sing one of their anthems in 'american' and see how it goes?
I suppose we don't really have an identity as a country any more. Maybe we never have.
Because I don't live in another country. I took the ad as those people being Americans but singing in the language of whatever heritage they were. Take me for instance I'm part French so what if i sang it in French (don't know any though) does that make me less of an American?
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it just pisses me off how dumb americans can be, saying it was disrespectful to our country over that ad.
i'm part turkish, i speak turkce, i've been in the army for 8 years and deployed 4 times. i DARE somebody to come up to my face in front of my family and say i'm not patriotic because i know how to sing this song in turkce. i'm still american.
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I took the ad as those people being Americans but singing in the language of whatever heritage they were. Take me for instance I'm part French so what if i sang it in French (don't know any though) does that make me less of an American?
I've also got some French in me. German, too. Wouldn't catch me dead singing a song about America in another language. But, if you enjoy it, learn it and sing it. Loud and proud.
If it weren't important to learn the primary language of a country, why did our immigrant ancestors not carry on in their own languages? Eh, doesn't matter. I just don't understand Coca-Cola's point in dividing people…which they have clearly done. Unity my ass. 
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