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Actually Bard, I feel that was a well thought out and written response. Not to say I agree with all of it but you did answer the question, state your opinion and back it up with your reasoning.
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My opinion about a .-eyed statement by Banner. We will be bold at a snail's pace; and we lost some candidates while we futzed around and extended this search after what remains in my mind a poorly handled firing (in terms of respect and treatment). We did not get a "bold" name, probably best choice or first choice, and we have yet to see if we got the best of the rest or settled.
Banner didn't meet your expectations of bold...correct? When Banner hired Reid, he wasn't a big name. In fact, no one interviewed Andy before Philly hired.
If you look at Banner this time, he hired Pettine. Again, no one interviewed him. Is that not a "bold" move? Right or wrong Banner is treading where no one else went. If you step back and look at his hire, what do you see drastically wrong? For that matter, are you reading many articles posting this was a major blunder? Me personally I find it strange we heard very little good or bad. It maybe they are all focus on the super bowl. Then again, Pettine is so new and clean no one knows what to make of it.
One other question: Who did we lose out in the interview process that is head and shoulders above Pettine and why? You may know more about Pettine then I and can compare his flaws against other candidates. For me, I know very little about Pettine. I do know he built a strong defense in Buffalo. I also know some of the candidates Browns passed on were fired by other teams.
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You jumped in at some point, calling various comments of mine 'ludicrous' and 'ignorant' man you are a piece of work...  That was ages ago in another thread - are you really that shallow??? I'm done with you. Your football sucks and so does your board personality. enjoy 
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man you are a piece of work... That was ages ago in another thread.
It was like a week and a half ago.
And you're the one who keeps coming at me with your weak, picked apart arguments. Don't bring it up if you don't want to discuss it.
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This is the guy who was whining about logical football posts and maturity.
"Your football sucks". 
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Don't bring it up if you don't want to discuss it. You cannot be that dense??? You are the one who brought it up man...something is seriously wrong with you. 
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Kyle Shanahan in Cleveland, set to sign Monday to become Browns offensive coordinator | cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss..._special-report
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You cannot be that dense??? You are the one who brought it up man...something is seriously wrong with you.
Look, man, if you can't debate football like a grown-up, just stop responding to me. The childish insults and condescension just make you look like a clown.
For the third time, someone else brought up the subject initially. You chimed in, with a strong air of condescension and dismissive derision, and after having every point of your argument refuted, you just started acting like a petulant child.
If you want to debate football, I'd be happy to. If you want to come with little more than 'I'm right because I say so' and throwing out condescending insults like a sullen twelve year old, then I'm not interested. Just let it go and it will be gone. Plenty of other grown ups out there to debate with.
I can certainly do better with my time than 'your football sucks'. At this point, I'm only in it because watching you flounder is kind of comical.
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.. " Petulant "... love that word , although I have a hard time working into conversations 
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You cannot be that dense??? You are the one who brought it up man...something is seriously wrong with you.
Look, man, if you can't debate football like a grown-up, just stop responding to me. The childish insults and condescension just make you look like a clown.
For the third time, someone else brought up the subject initially. You chimed in, with a strong air of condescension and dismissive derision, and after having every point of your argument refuted, you just started acting like a petulant child.
If you want to debate football, I'd be happy to. If you want to come with little more than 'I'm right because I say so' and throwing out condescending insults like a sullen twelve year old, then I'm not interested. Just let it go and it will be gone. Plenty of other grown ups out there to debate with.
I can certainly do better with my time than 'your football sucks'. At this point, I'm only in it because watching you flounder is kind of comical.
I think my composition teacher would have given you an "A".
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j/c Cleveland Browns hire two more assistant coaches Quote:
Today per Coachingsearch.com former Hawaii assistant Tony Tuioti will join the Cleveland Browns staff as the assistant defensive line coach. The Browns will also add former Bentley University linebackers coach / strength and conditioning coordinator Rusty McKinney to the staff.
The Cleveland Browns have hired Tony Tuioti to be their assistant defensive line coach. Tuioti would be assisting Anthony Weaver to help a defensive line including Phil Taylor, Desmond Bryant, John Hughes and Billy Winn as they adapt to play in Mike Pettine’s defense.
McKinney is a native of Fairfax County, Va., McKinney played four years of football at Towson. As a senior, he served as team captain and was the recipient of the Doc Minnegan Award as the team MVP. McKinney garnered second-team All-Patriot League honors in both 2000 and 2001.
McKinney moved into college coaching in 2008, serving as a linebacker coach at Saint Anselm College. Since graduating from Towson, he has also served as an assistant speed and agility trainer, working with Olympic gold medalist Dennis Mitchell.
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We've hired some new coaches over the last few days: Quote:
The Browns have hired former University of Hawaii linebackers coach Tony Tuioti as an assistant defensive line coach, a source familiar with the situation confirmed for the Beacon Journal today. The source spoke on condition of anonymity because the Browns have yet to announce the move.
The Honolulu Star-Advertiser first reported the hire Monday night, citing multiple unnamed sources. CoachingSearch.com reported today that Tuioti will serve as an assistant defensive line coach for the Browns.
Tuioti had been with Hawaii since 2008. He spent two seasons as the program’s director of player personnel, two as its defensive tackles coach and two as its linebackers coach. He coached high school football before working for Hawaii.
In December, Hawaii coach Norm Chow said Tuioti and defensive coordinator Thom Kaumeyer would not be retained for the 2014 season. Both were on one-year contracts, according to the Star-Advertiser.
Last week, FootballScoop.com reported defensive line coach Anthony Weaver would leave the Buffalo Bills to fill the same position for the Browns, who haven’t announced that move, either. New Browns coach Mike Pettine served as the Bills’ defensive coordinator last season.
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The Browns have hired Jimmy Raye as a senior offensive assistant and George DeLeone as an assistant offensive line coach, Alex Marvez of Fox Sports reported tonight.
The Browns have not announced the moves.
Raye, 67, held the same title with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers during the past two seasons.
Raye, who played for the Philadelphia Eagles in 1969, has spent 36 seasons coaching in the NFL. He worked as an offensive coordinator for several teams, most recently the San Francisco 49ers, who fired him after falling to 0-3 in 2010.
Raye's son, Jimmy Raye III, is the Indianapolis Colts' vice president of football operations.
DeLeone, 65, was the associate head coach at the University of Connecticut last season. He spent the previous two seasons serving as the Huskies’ offensive coordinator.
DeLeone has been a football coach for 40 seasons, including four in the NFL. He was the San Diego Chargers’ offensive line coach in 1997 and the Miami Dolphins’ tight ends coach from 2008-10.
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Browns news conference at 11 am Thursday with HC Mike Pettine and 3 coordinators: Jim O’Neil, Kyle Shanahan & Chris Tabor.
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Was wondering when or if the presser would be happening. Hopefully ClevelandBrowns.com has it posted on their site so I check it out after work.
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jc http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/77791/no-dissing-previous-coordinatorsNo dissing previous Browns coordinators The last three Cleveland Browns offensive coordinators have been Brad Childress, Norv Turner and, now, Kyle Shanahan. Two were former head coaches who brought impressive résumés to their jobs. Childress took Brett Favre and the Vikings to within a whisker of the Super Bowl in 2009, guiding Favre to one of his best seasons. He crashed and burned the following year, then took a year off before joining Pat Shurmur’s staff in Cleveland. Midway through that season, he had Brandon Weeden looking like he might work out as the Browns quarterback, but things fizzled -- as they usually do -- when a coaching staff and players pretty much know their days are numbered due to an ownership change. [+] EnlargeNorv Turner AP Photo/David Richard Norv Turner came to Cleveland with a sparkling resume, but still only lasted a season. Enter Jimmy Haslam and Joe Banner, who hired Rob Chudzinski as coach and touted the hire of Norv Turner as offensive coordinator as the veteran guy who could make it all work. Turner was a former coordinator for Jimmy Johnson in Dallas and a head coach in Washington and San Diego. His coaching résumé isn’t perfect, but few question his smarts and credentials. Rarely were phrases like “reason for optimism” not used with Turner’s name. He got wins out of Brian Hoyer, but struggled without a running game and lack of continuity at quarterback. As the season droned on, Turner seemed to get more and more frustrated with the expectations for a team that lacked all the cards. Childress and Turner are both good coaches. They’ve proven that. They know what they’re doing. They were both fired by the Browns. The same was true on the defensive side of the ball. Dick Jauron was the coordinator two years ago. It’s impossible to find anyone who doesn’t respect Jauron. He’s a former head coach who knows the game, knows how to coach. When Haslam and Banner made the change to a new staff, they touted Ray Horton as another great addition. Horton had interviewed to be the Browns' head coach, he spoke a good game and he attacked defensively. Horton knows what he’s doing, but his unit struggled with some poor end-of-game production. Good coaches can struggle -- and they can lose. Bill Cowher had some very poor losing seasons. It happens. But the spin that was put on the Turner-Horton tandem when they were hired bordered on the absurd. Horton and Turner were going to fill potholes citywide, balance the federal budget, win games and water and fertilize the stadium grass in their downtime. Some optimism wasn’t unfounded, but the public spin made them seem more like miracle workers than coaches working with a needy roster. And it wasn’t the public or media making these statements, it was the Browns. That’s four very good coaches who were Browns coordinators the past two seasons, coaches with head-coaching experience, coaches with winning experience, coaches with impressive résumés. The difference between Josh McDaniels and Norv Turner last season may well be Tom Brady. The difference between Ray Horton and Dan Quinn starts with Richard Sherman. Now the Browns have Kyle Shanahan as offensive coordinator and Jim O’Neil as defensive coordinator. Shanahan has five years experience as a coordinator, O’Neil has no experience but will have new coach Mike Pettine calling defensive signals for at least the first season. This version of the Browns may work, and the new group deserves a chance. But nobody can say it failed the previous two seasons because of a lack of qualified guys leading the offense and defense. The résumés for the coordinators the Browns had the past two years would stack up with any in the league.
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I'm thinking about the two Super Bowl teams. Seattle's best unit by far was their defense. Wonder how much NFL coordinator experience Quinn had before taking the Seahawk's job? Denver's had the best offense in the league. Wonder how many years Gase was an OC before he got the gig in Denver? And did the author really say that Childress was a good coordinator and Weeden was looking like he might work out under Childress? Sorry, I ain't buying this article.
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he was a good enough Coord that he was eventually hired to be a HC in minny.
so yea..i kinda buy this article.
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And Minni's fans hated him because he was ultra conservative and he was fired because his offense was unimaginative and he was nothing w/out Farve carrying him.
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And did the author really say that Childress was a good coordinator and Weeden was looking like he might work out under Childress?
Proof that great minds think alike. 
He's saying that Childress almost did great things with a future HoF quarterback and future HoF runningback. MIND. BLOWN.
Also, calling Childress a coordinator during his time in Cleveland is being very generous. Shurmer was running that dumpster fire we called an offense.
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dude...imo, before you say "call you a moron" again,
by that logic, every QB that goes to the playoffs carries the HC. so how can you say something like that when you, yourself, has been saying that the QB is the most important position, especially of your recent examples of how the colts are a..what you said? 2-14 team without him?
you said we need a QB to win...now all of a sudden Farve being a good QB is carrying the HC now?
huh....
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Look man............I never said you called me a moron. Sheesh. I said how the heck did you get that out of what I wrote. So, I called myself a moron just so you would stop responding to me. And now this............ Your reading comprehension blows my mind. Let's just ignore each other. Tired of the stupid wars we have. I love debating others, but you almost always misunderstand what I am saying and we argue about nonsense.
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thats cause you don't make yourself clear.
you're on here saying the QB is the most important position, than you say that Farve, in the most important position, carried the HC.
so sorry if i'm not following your logic or reasoning. either the QB is the most important, or the HC is. which is it?
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Seattle's best unit by far was their defense. Wonder how much NFL coordinator experience Quinn had before taking the Seahawk's job?
Denver's had the best offense in the league. Wonder how many years Gase was an OC before he got the gig in Denver?
And did the author really say that Childress was a good coordinator and Weeden was looking like he might work out under Childress?
Sorry, I ain't buying this article.
I agree. People seem to think people have a weak resume if they don't have years of NFL experience. In todays changing game, the guy with heavy college experience might be the way to go. I know the Gators miss having Dan Quinn on the sideline.
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I agree. People seem to think people have a weak resume if they don't have years of NFL experience. In todays changing game, the guy with heavy college experience might be the way to go. I know the Gators miss having Dan Quinn on the sideline.
Wow. You must be brilliant! You actually understood my point even though I don't make myself clear. Amazing. 
You know, Peen...........we've seen it happen both ways in regards to experience being a really good thing or not meaning much at all. We have also seen young coordinators succeed and fail.
I just am not buying that moving from all that experience to younger guys is such a huge deal. After all, how much worse can it be than 4 and 12?
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I agree.....plus we have a young team.
A coach can teach or can't. I'd say a guy who has been a college coach for 20-30 years without gap, or much gap is a proven teacher.
You can only talk your way in to jobs for so long.
Some people just moan because that is what they are conditioned to do. I say what I think and don't get in to much debate anymore. Mostly they aren't listening to what you have to say, so why bother?
I can still be a hemorrhoid if I choose to be, but mostly I move on. I pick and choose these days.
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There is a link to the press conference on Cleveland Browns.com. It will include Pettine, Shanahan, O'Neil, and Tabor. I expect Pettine and Shanahan will be doing most of the talking.
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Just clicking I'm not sure this has been posted yet... Quote:
Release: Mike Pettine adds 11 to coaching staff
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BEREA, Ohio – Cleveland Browns Head Coach Mike Pettine on Wednesday named 11 assistants to his initial coaching staff. Pettine named George DeLeone assistant offensive line coach, Chris DiSanto assistant strength and conditioning coach, Richard Hightower offensive quality control coach, Dowell Loggains quarterbacks coach, Derik Keyes assistant strength and conditioning coach, Mike McDaniel wide receivers coach, Andy Moeller offensive line coach, Wilbert Montgomery running backs coach, Paul Ricci strength and conditioning coach, Tony Tuioti defensive quality control coach and Anthony Weaver defensive line coach.
The Browns coaching staff also includes coordinators Jim O’Neil (defense), Kyle Shanahan (offense) and Chris Tabor (special teams), and assistants Brian Angelichio (tight ends), Bobby Babich (assistant secondary), Chuck Driesbach (linebackers), Brian Fleury (assistant linebackers), Jeff Hafley (secondary) and Shawn Mennenga (assistant special teams).
Assistant offensive line coach George DeLeone
DeLeone is a veteran coach of 41 seasons, including the last three at Connecticut where he served as offensive coordinator from 2011-12 and associate head coach/offensive line in 2013.
He has spent 37 years coaching on the collegiate level and four in the NFL. DeLeone has coached in 12 bowl games, including the Fiesta, Sugar, Gator and Orange bowls. On the professional level, he was the San Diego Chargers offensive line coach (1997) and the tight ends coach for the Miami Dolphins (2008-10).
DeLeone also coached at Southern Connecticut (1970-79), Rutgers (1980-83), Holy Cross (1984), Syracuse (1985-96 and 1998-2003), Mississippi (2005) and Temple (2006-07).
During his 18 seasons at Syracuse, the Orange played in 12 bowl games, posting an 8-3-1 record. While working with the offensive line at Syracuse, five of his players were drafted in the NFL.
The New Haven, Conn., native graduated from Connecticut with a degree in physical education. He also earned a master's degree in physical education from Southern Connecticut.
Assistant strength and conditioning coach Chris DiSanto
DiSanto first joined the Browns as assistant strength and conditioning coach in 2013.
DiSanto spent the 2012 season in the same position at the University of California. Prior to his time with the Golden Bears, DiSanto served four seasons (2008-11) as assistant strength and conditioning coach with the Oakland Raiders.
After graduating from West Chester (Pa.) University in 2000, DiSanto served as a volunteer strength and conditioning coach for the Philadelphia Eagles for three seasons (2000-02), while also serving as an assistant strength and conditioning coach with the Philadelphia Kixx (Major Indoor Soccer League), the Philadelphia Wings (National Lacrosse League) and at his alma mater. In 2005, DiSanto served as the offensive line and assistant strength and conditioning coach for the University of Pikeville. DiSanto spent 2007 as a strength and conditioning intern with the Minnesota Vikings.
A native of Holland, Pa., DiSanto played four years with multiple teams in Arena Football League 2 as an offensive and defensive lineman. During the 2006 season, DiSanto served as captain for the Spokane Shock and helped the team capture the league championship.
Offensive quality control coach Richard Hightower
Hightower, who spent the past four seasons with the Washington Redskins, owns eight years of coaching experience, including seven in the NFL.
After spending two years (2010-11) as the Redskins’ assistant special teams coach, Hightower acquired additional duties assisting the defensive backs in 2012. During his tenure, he helped linebacker Lorenzo Alexander reach the 2013 Pro Bowl and aided a defensive unit that ranked tied for third in interceptions in 2012.
Prior to Washington, Hightower spent the 2009 season coaching wide receivers at the University of Minnesota, where he guided Eric Decker to first-team All-Big Ten honors. Decker, selected by the Denver Broncos in the third round of the 2010 draft, has registered at least 85 receptions and 1,000 receiving yards in each of his past two NFL seasons.
Hightower launched his coaching career as an assistant with the Houston Texans (2006-07), before being elevated to special teams assistant in 2008.
A native of Houston, Texas, Hightower received a bachelor of arts in marketing at Texas, where he was a three-year letterman.
Quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains
Loggains (pronounced DAAW-uhl LOGG-ins) spent the past eight years (2006-13) with the Tennessee Titans. He served as the offensive coordinator in 2013 and during the final five games in 2012. Last season, he helped Tennessee to a 3-1 start before an injury to QB Jake Locker.
Loggains was the quarterbacks coach from 2010-12, when he worked with Kerry Collins, Vince Young, Matt Hasselbeck and Locker, a first-round pick in 2011. The previous two seasons (2008-09), Loggains was the quality control coach for the offense. He originally joined Tennessee as a coaching administrative assistant (2006-07).
Prior to the Titans, Loggains spent the 2005 season as a scouting assistant with the Dallas Cowboys. His duties included assisting with opponent film breakdown, self-scouting and statistical analysis to be used in game-plan preparation.
A native of Newport, Ark., Loggains was a four-year letterman as a quarterback at Arkansas, where he appeared in 50 games. He graduated with a bachelor of science and master’s degree in education. Loggains was a two-year starter at quarterback for Abilene Cooper (Texas) High School.
Assistant strength and conditioning coach Derik Keyes
Keyes first joined the Browns as assistant strength and conditioning coach in 2013.
Keyes spent the 2012 season in the same capacity with the Houston Texans. Prior to joining the Texans, Keyes was an assistant strength and conditioning coach at his alma mater, the University of Louisiana-Lafayette, for the 2011 season. He began his coaching career as an assistant strength and conditioning intern in 2009 at Louisiana-Lafayette.
A four-year letterman as a safety at Louisiana-Lafayette, Keyes was named second-team All-Sun Belt Conference as a senior. He earned a bachelor’s degree in public relations/business finance in 2008.
Wide receivers coach Mike McDaniel
McDaniel spent the past three seasons with the Washington Redskins, first as an offensive assistant (2011-12) before serving last season as wide receivers coach.
In 2013, he helped Pierre Garcon lead the NFL and set a franchise record with 113 receptions. His total surpassed Hall of Famer Art Monk’s mark of 106, which stood for 29 years. Garcon also finished eighth in the league with 1,346 receiving yards.
From 2009-10, McDaniel coached the running backs for the UFL’s Sacramento Mountain Lions (originally named the California Redwoods). In 2010, Mountain Lions running back Cory Ross was named UFL Offensive Player of the Year.
McDaniel spent three seasons (2006-08) as an offensive assistant with the Houston Texans. In 2008, WR Andre Johnson led the NFL in receiving yards (1,575) and receptions (115).
McDaniel got his start in coaching as an intern with the Denver Broncos in 2005.
A native of Greeley, Colo., McDaniel was a wide receiver at Yale, where he earned his bachelor’s degree in history.
Offensive line coach Andy Moeller
Moeller spent the past six seasons (2008-13) with the Baltimore Ravens. He was an assistant offensive coach for three years before spending the past three as offensive line coach.
Under Moeller’s guidance, guard Marshal Yanda was selected to the Pro Bowl from 2011-13 and guard Ben Grubbs was named to the Pro Bowl in 2011. In 2012, the Ravens scored a franchise-record 398 points and totaled the second-most total yards (5,640) in team history en route to winning Super Bowl XLVII.
Moeller’s offensive line helped pave the way for running back Ray Rice, who registered more than 1,100 rushing yards and 1,600 scrimmage yards in four consecutive seasons (2009-12). Rice led the NFL with 2,068 yards from scrimmage in 2011.
Prior to Baltimore, Moeller spent eight seasons at Michigan, where he served as tight ends/offensive tackles coach from 2000-01 and offensive line coach from 2002-07. He tutored two All-Americans, center David Baas (2004) and tackle Jake Long (2006-07), the first-overall pick in the 2008 NFL Draft. Moeller’s offensive line helped block for a 1,000-yard rusher in five of his six seasons as offensive line coach.
Before joining Michigan, he spent six years at Missouri. Moeller served as offensive line coach from 1997-99 after coaching the tight ends, tackles and special teams from 1994-96. He coached Army’s offensive line, inside linebackers and special teams from 1998-93. He began his coaching career as a graduate assistant at Indiana in 1987.
A four-year letterman and two-year starter at linebacker for Michigan, Moeller earned first-team All-Big Ten honors. A native of Ann Arbor, Mich., Moeller earned a bachelor of arts degree in economics and communications.
Running backs coach Wilbert Montgomery
Montgomery spent the past six seasons (2008-13) as the Baltimore Ravens running backs coach. During his time in Baltimore, the Ravens made five playoff appearances, captured two division titles and won Super Bowl XLVII.
He oversaw the development of 2008 second-round pick Ray Rice, who was named to three Pro Bowls (2009, 2011-12) and was named second-team Associated Press All-Pro twice (2009, 2011). Rice rushed for more than 1,100 yards and 1,600 scrimmage yards in four straight seasons (2009-12). He led the NFL with 2,068 yards from scrimmage in 2011 and was second in the league with 1,364 rushing yards. He also set a team record with 15 total touchdowns. Rice ranked fourth in the NFL with 9,214 scrimmage yards (6,180 rushing and 3,034 receiving) from 2008-13.
Montgomery also helped fullbacks Le'Ron McClain (2008-09) and Vonta Leach (2011-12) to multiple Pro Bowls.
In 2008, Montgomery’s unit ranked fourth in the NFL in rushing yards per game (148.5) and fifth in 2009 (137.5). The Ravens also set a team record with 22 rushing touchdowns in 2009.
Prior to Baltimore, Montgomery spent two seasons (2006-07) as the Detroit Lions running backs coach after spending nine years (1997-2005) with the St. Louis Rams. He coached the Rams running backs from 1997-99 and 2003-05, while serving as tight ends coach from 2000-02.
In St. Louis, Montgomery guided two of the NFL’s top running backs in Marshall Faulk and Steven Jackson. Faulk currently ranks 10th on the NFL’s all-time rushing list, while Jackson is 20th.
During his first season with the Rams (1999), Faulk set an NFL record with 2,429 yards from scrimmage as he joined Roger Craig as the only player to total 1,000-plus rushing and receiving yards in a season. Faulk was named the NFL Offensive Player of the Year as St. Louis led the NFL in total offense (fifth in rushing) and went on to capture Super Bowl XXXIV.
Prior to joining the coaching ranks, Montgomery spent nine seasons (1977-85) in the NFL as a running back. He was a sixth-round pick by Philadelphia and played eight seasons with the Eagles (1977-84). He finished his playing career with Detroit in 1985.
Montgomery was a two-time Pro Bowl honoree (1978-79) and two-time AP All-Pro selection (1978-79). In 1979, he led the NFL in yards from scrimmage with 2,012.
An inaugural inductee of the Eagles’ Honor Roll in 1987, Montgomery holds the Eagles’ franchise record in several categories, including career rushing yards (6,538).
As a four-year starter at Abilene Christian, Montgomery set the NAIA record for career touchdowns with 76. He also set the record for touchdowns by a freshman with 37 in 1973, while leading the Wildcats to the NAIA Division I national championship. Montgomery was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 1986.
Strength and conditioning coach Paul Ricci
Ricci spent the past two seasons (2012-13) as an assistant strength and conditioning coach with the New York Jets. Prior to joining the Jets, he served as the director of basketball performance at Texas Tech for one season (2011-12). Ricci was the director of basketball performance at Maryland from 2008-11.
Ricci spent nine seasons (1999-2008) on the strength and conditioning staff of the Baltimore Ravens, including the staff that helped the team claim a victory in Super Bowl XXXV.
Ricci had a one-year stint on the strength and conditioning staff of the Arizona Cardinals (1996), in addition to spending spring training with the San Diego Padres (1996).
Ricci played offensive line for Penn State. He earned a master’s of education from Goucher College and an undergraduate degree from Temple University.
Defensive quality control coach Tony Tuioti
Tuioti (pronounced TOO-ee-oh-TEE) spent the past six seasons at Hawaii. He served as the team’s linebackers coach (2012-13), defensive tackles coach (2010-11) and director of player personnel (2008-09).
In 2010, the Rainbow Warriors led the nation in takeaways (38). In addition, Tuioti’s defensive tackles registered 22.5 of the team’s 30 sacks.
Prior to Hawaii, Tuioti served as defensive coordinator at Silverado High School in Las Vegas, Nev., where he helped the team to the Southeast Division championship with a 10-1 record. Tuioti was the head coach at Kalaheo High School on O‘ahu in Hawaii from 2003-05. He led the Mustangs to the OIA playoffs for the first time in 10 years and was the youngest varsity head coach in the state.
A four-year letterman at Hawaii, Tuioti was an All-WAC defensive lineman. He is one of two former Rainbow Warriors to win a WAC championship as both a player and coach.
Tuioti earned his bachelor’s degree in sociology from Hawaii. He served as graduate assistant coach from 2000-01, while earning his master’s in educational administration. Tuioti also received a second master’s degree in special education from UNLV.
Defensive line coach Anthony Weaver
Weaver spent last season as the defensive line coach with the Buffalo Bills, where his defensive linemen accounted for 47 of the Bills’ 57 sacks, a franchise record and the second-most in the NFL in 2013. Buffalo was the only team to have three players record double-digit sacks, with DE Mario Williams leading the team and finishing fourth in the NFL with 13. DT Kyle Williams registered a career-high 10.5 and DE Jerry Hughes recorded a career-best 10. DT Marcell Dareus added a career-most 7.5 sacks. All four players were selected to the Pro Bowl.
Prior to Buffalo, Weaver spent the 2012 season as the assistant defensive line coach with the New York Jets. He also spent a season (2011) as the linebackers coach at North Texas after beginning his coaching career as a defensive graduate assistant at Florida in 2010.
As a defensive end, Weaver was a second-round pick by the Baltimore Ravens in 2002 and played seven NFL seasons. He appeared in 103 regular-season games with 98 starts, while spending time with Baltimore (2002-05) and Houston (2006-08). He recorded 260 career tackles, 15.5 sacks, three interceptions, five forced fumbles and five fumble recoveries.
A native of Saratoga Springs, N.Y., Weaver was a four-year starter at Notre Dame and earned All-America honors.
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i like these hires...other than keeping tabor.
but my first impression was....wow, none of these guys are overweight!
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So it looks like our coaching staff is complete:
Head Coach - Mike Pettine (47)
Offensive Coordinator - Kyle Shanahan (34)
Defensive Coordinator - Jim O'Neill (35)
Special Teams Coordinator - Chris Tabor (42)
QB Coach - Dowell Loggains (33)
RB Coach - Wilbert Montgomery (59)
WR Coach - Mike McDaniel (30)
TE Coach - Brian Angelichio (41)
OL Coach - Andy Moeller (49)
Assistant OL Coach - George DeLeone (65)
Offensive Quality Control Coach - Richard Hightower (??)
Senior Offensive Assistant - Jimmy Raye (67)
DL Coach - Anthony Weaver (33)
LB Coach - Chuck Driesbach (61)
DB Coach - Jeff Hafley (34)
Assistant Linebackers Coach - Brian Fleury (35)
Defensive Quality Control Coach - Tony Tuioti (37)
Assistant Defensive Backs Coach - Bobby Babich (31)
Special Teams Assistant - Shawn Mennenga (??)
Those are their ages in parenthesis. That seems like a young staff, although I don't know how old other team's staffs are.
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i like these hires...other than keeping tabor.
but my first impression was....wow, none of these guys are overweight!
Ha! I never thought of that. The FO is definitely going in a different direction.
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here's the intro for the coords:
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Just finished watching the presser.., Very good. Liked what I heard.
Here's what stood out,
Our new DC O'neil isn't a bragger. He says he'll look at what hes got as players and devise a scheme to fit them. Play to their strengths.
Tabor is tabor.. Good guy. I got no problem with that.
Shanahan said something that I thought was interesting in that a lot of us on these boards have been saying the same thing about Hoyer. He said that every team wants a top 5 QB. He followed that with "I'm not saying he is" but "he's proven he can play in this league so he could be"!
I've been burned by getting to giddy over a staff before, so I'll just leave it this way, I'm not unimpressed. (he says smiling while hedging his bets) 
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i wonder though, like, i think our defense is gonna be straight. i hope our ST gets better.
but with shanahan, i wonder if his dad kept Kyle's creativity down for reasons we fans won't know.
i just have this feeling that now that we have a defensive minded HC, he's pretty much gonna turn Kyle loose on the O, and i'm really excited to see what he can come up with on offense every sunday.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-brownsThe Cleveland Browns filled out their staff by announcing the hiring of 11 coaches Thursday. The staff is sprinkled with former coaches from the Ravens, Bills and a few from the Redskins. All are logical, as coaches bring in folks they know and are comfortable with. Coach Mike Pettine worked in Baltimore and Buffalo before being hired in Cleveland, and offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan worked in Washington. Most noteworthy among the hires was Wilbert Montgomery as running backs coach. Montgomery spent the last six seasons as running backs coach with the Ravens. He also played for the Philadelphia Eagles when Ron Jaworski was quarterback and Dick Vermeil was coach. Receivers coach Mike McDaniel joins Shanahan in coming to Cleveland from Washington. McDaniel was the receivers coach with the Redskins last season. Other hires included (in alphabetical order): George DeLeone, former Connecticut offensive coordinator and associate head coach, as assistant offensive line coach. Chris DiSanto and Derik Keyes staying with the Browns as assistant strength coach. Richard Hightower, last of the Redskins, as offensive quality control coach. Dowell Loggains, former Tennessee offensive coordinator, as quarterback coach. Andy Moeller as offensive line coach. Moeller spent the previous six seasons in Baltimore, the last three as offensive line coach. Paul Ricci, former Jets assistant strength coach, as the head strength coach. Tony Tuioti, from the University of Hawai, as defensive quality control coach. Anthony Weaver, last of the Bills, as defensive line coach. They join previously announced hires Chris Tabor (special teams coach), Jim O'Neil (defensive coordinator), Shanahan, Brian Angelichio (tight ends), Bobby Babich (assistant secondary), Chuck Driesbach (linebackers), Brian Fleury (assistant linebackers), Jeff Hafley (secondary) and Shawn Mennenga (assistant special teams). Pettine said there could be one or two additions, but the staff is largely complete.
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Special Teams Assistant - Shawn Mennenga (??
Those are their ages in parenthesis. That seems like a young staff, although I don't know how old other team's staffs are.
Hightower is 33, born September 15, 1980.
Mennenga is 43, born January 8, 1971.
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Reboot #2. Lets wait and see what the do.
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i wonder though, like, i think our defense is gonna be straight. i hope our ST gets better.
but with shanahan, i wonder if his dad kept Kyle's creativity down for reasons we fans won't know.
i just have this feeling that now that we have a defensive minded HC, he's pretty much gonna turn Kyle loose on the O, and i'm really excited to see what he can come up with on offense every sunday.
as long as he has the weapons it could be fun to watch. No QB or RB or WR, we're in trouble and I don't care who the OC is.
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