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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/03/movies/philip-seymour-hoffman-actor-dies-at-46.html?_r=0

The actor Philip Seymour Hoffman was found dead in his New York apartment on Sunday morning of an apparent drug overdose, according to a law enforcement official who requested anonymity because he was not certain the actor’s family had been informed of the death.

The official said Mr. Hoffman, 46, was found in his West Village apartment around 11:30 a.m. by a friend who had become concerned at not being able to reach Mr. Hoffman.

Investigators found a syringe in his arm and an envelope containing what is believed to be heroin, the official said.

“It’s pretty apparent that it was an overdose,” the official said. “The syringe was in his arm.”

Mr. Hoffman won the Academy Award for Best Actor his role in the 2005 film “Capote,” in which he portrayed the writer Truman Capote.

He had undergone treatment for drug addiction in the past, and spoke in interviews about “falling off the wagon” last year after remaining clean for 23 years.

By around 2 p.m, more than a hundred people had gathered outside the address where the actor was found, in a brick apartment building on Bethune Street. The crowd was growing by the minute.

As people passed, they stopped, snapped photos, held hands and watched. They seemed to be waiting.

“He’s a local. He’s a fixture in this neighborhood,” said Christian McCulloch, 39, who said that he lives nearby. “You see him with his kids in the coffee shops, he is so sweet. It’s desperately sad.”

At a short distance from the crowd, two men who identified themselves as friends embraced, sobbing.

A woman answering the phone at Mr. Hoffman’s New York production company declined to comment. “I don’t have a comment at this time on that, thank you,” she said.

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the guy has been struggling with heroin for a while now.

he was a really good actor. sad it ended this way.


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the guy has been struggling with heroin for a while now.

he was a really good actor. sad it ended this way.





Dude BECAME every role he ever took on. I was a big fan.


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the guy has been struggling with heroin for a while now.

he was a really good actor. sad it ended this way.





Dude BECAME every role he ever took on. I was a big fan.


sad.




Yeah, he was a great one, very sad.

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Just got an AP notice on my phone, he was found with a syringe in his arm. We are all just the sum of our choices, he chose badly.


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Just got an AP notice on my phone, he was found with a syringe in his arm. We are all just the sum of our choices, he chose badly.






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Been waiting for this one for awhile.

You can't hit the needle hard for a prolonged period of time. It will get you sooner or later.

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Man this really sucks. He was a great one.

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the guy has been struggling with heroin for a while now.

he was a really good actor. sad it ended this way.





Dude BECAME every role he ever took on. I was a big fan.


sad.




My wife said the same thing. I have to admit, I had to look up his bio online to find out who he was and why I should care.

It is sad and it is tragic. Other than leaving his wife without a husband and his children without a father, I cannot find myself caring.

I hope that he allowed for them all to be taken care of in the case that this happened. They really don't need to be worried about financial problems during a time like this.

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It is sad and it is tragic. Other than leaving his wife without a husband and his children without a father, I cannot find myself caring.

I hope that he allowed for them all to be taken care of in the case that this happened. They really don't need to be worried about financial problems during a time like this.




That's how I feel. There's too many other people who die for reasons that aren't their own fault (or at least for better reasons than heroin overdose). Just another celebrity dead from drugs, feel bad for the family and hope they are taken care of.


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Hell of an actor, lived his roles.

I especially liked his role in Capote, Red Dragon and the Talented Mr. Ripley.

He was even good in comedies such as "along came Polly"

He owned the roles he played.

RIP young man.. I wish you could have gotten control of your addictions.


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The guy chose heroin over his children, what a jerk. I have no sympathy for him because his stupid irresponsible decisions are what did him in, but I do feel for his family.

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The guy was a great actor and I for one will miss watching him on the big screen . There are very few actors who will get me to watch a movie simply because they are in them and he was one of them . I had zero interest in watching Capote aside from the fact that it had FSH as the star . Too bad his personal demons got the best of him .

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http://gma.yahoo.com/philip-seymour-hoff...ities.html?vp=1

I don't know much about heroin - but 50 bags of it sounds like quite a bit. Even if each bag had one "high" in it.....seems like that's a lot.

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The guy chose heroin over his children, what a jerk. I have no sympathy for him because his stupid irresponsible decisions are what did him in, but I do feel for his family.




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The guy chose heroin over his children, what a jerk. I have no sympathy for him because his stupid irresponsible decisions are what did him in, but I do feel for his family.




I'm not an addiction specialist by any means, but it seems to me that you chose heroin the first time, perhaps the second time, but from that point, I'm not sure you are doing any choosing. I think you are chosen by it to run your life.

Still, doing drugs is just a bad way to live your life., Just not smart.


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Huge withdraw from his bank account.

50 bags of heroin.

A cup of 20 syringes.

... sounds like he knew what he was doing when he overdosed. Pretty sad for the fact he had kids that, seemingly wasn't as important as heroin...

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From the sound of it suicide does likely . People mock and ridicule what they don't understand and since I wasn't in his head I will refrain from making broad statements about how selfish he was . Wouldn't be my choice and I can only imagine how someone gets to the point where death seems the only option .

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The guy chose heroin over his children, what a jerk. I have no sympathy for him because his stupid irresponsible decisions are what did him in, but I do feel for his family.




I'm not an addiction specialist by any means, but it seems to me that you chose heroin the first time, perhaps the second time, but from that point, I'm not sure you are doing any choosing. I think you are chosen by it to run your life.

Still, doing drugs is just a bad way to live your life., Just not smart.




He should have never done it in the first place, he was weak to give into the urge. The OP also said he had been clean for 23 years up to last year, that means he started doing it again after having his kids. He chose heroin over his children and that makes him not worth feeling bad for (in my opinion). His kids, on the other hand, I feel awful for.

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Eh.. He made a bad choice. The last thing that will be said about him is he died in his shorts in the bathroom with a needle stuck in his arm.. everyone will go on with their lives.


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Eh.. He made a bad choice. The last thing that will be said about him is he died in his shorts in the bathroom with a needle stuck in his arm.. everyone will go on with their lives.




Yep. I just hate seeing the coverage of people who act like their hearts are broken by his death, fans who didn't know him personally. If they took a minute to think about how he died and the situation he left his family in, I think they wouldn't be so upset about it. But, everyone has to act like they were personally affected by the guy's death. Whatever.

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As someone who just lost a stepbrother to the stuff I can't find much sympathy for him [Seymour}. I hadn't spoke to my stepbrother in a long time because our parents divorced and it wasn't a good split, but it was really sad to hear how he died and knowing he left behind 2 kids. Choosing that drug over family....smh.

Heroine is like playing Russian Roulette everyday. Eventually the odds will get you.


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Interesting parallel here with the Woody Allen thread. He was a great actor, and I will miss his potential performances. How he died doesn't change that for me.

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Interesting parallel here with the Woody Allen thread. He was a great actor, and I will miss his potential performances. How he died doesn't change that for me.




Agreed. In this situation. One could argue he hurt his kids by od'ing. But he didn't rape them. He didn't accost them.

He hurt himself. He hurt his kids secondarily by choosing drugs - but he didn't voluntarily rape them and leave them with sexual abuse scars for the rest of their lives.

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The guy chose heroin over his children, what a jerk. I have no sympathy for him because his stupid irresponsible decisions are what did him in, but I do feel for his family.




I'm not an addiction specialist by any means, but it seems to me that you chose heroin the first time, perhaps the second time, but from that point, I'm not sure you are doing any choosing. I think you are chosen by it to run your life.

Still, doing drugs is just a bad way to live your life., Just not smart.




He should have never done it in the first place, he was weak to give into the urge. The OP also said he had been clean for 23 years up to last year, that means he started doing it again after having his kids. He chose heroin over his children and that makes him not worth feeling bad for (in my opinion). His kids, on the other hand, I feel awful for.




I understand your point of view...


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Late to this thread. I was very saddened by the news. For myself as a big fan of his work and for his family.

I want to post my favorite clip of his. Him and Adam Sandler getting into it over the phone in Punch-Drunk Love, but I'd get a little suspension from the board for it. He was truly talented. Gave it all in every role.

What baffles me is both the dude's parents were heroin addicts. Just don't see how one tries it in the first place w/ what they know in the modern world AND with a family situation like that. Who knows? Maybe way more complicated than all that. Just a depressing situation.

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A lot of things that people damaged by their childhood do (especially if the damage comes from their parents) don't make sense.

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Late to this thread. I was very saddened by the news. For myself as a big fan of his work and for his family.

I want to post my favorite clip of his. Him and Adam Sandler getting into it over the phone in Punch-Drunk Love, but I'd get a little suspension from the board for it. He was truly talented. Gave it all in every role.

What baffles me is both the dude's parents were heroin addicts. Just don't see how one tries it in the first place w/ what they know in the modern world AND with a family situation like that. Who knows? Maybe way more complicated than all that. Just a depressing situation.




That leads us back to the question, is it nature or nurture that directs our actions?


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The guy chose heroin over his children, what a jerk. I have no sympathy for him because his stupid irresponsible decisions are what did him in, but I do feel for his family.




I'm not an addiction specialist by any means, but it seems to me that you chose heroin the first time, perhaps the second time, but from that point, I'm not sure you are doing any choosing. I think you are chosen by it to run your life.

Still, doing drugs is just a bad way to live your life., Just not smart.




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I've seen the rooms at rehab clinics that they put the heroin addicts in... Looks like something out of a horror movie.

I'm not going to call the guy jerk, because any time you are addicted to something like that, there are some pretty bad issues there...

But I think it's humorous that authorities are putting on an investigation to try and find the people who sold him this stuff, as if they murdered the guy...

If an addict doesn't get it from one guy, he will get it from another. Why not arrest his family for not getting him help then? Pretty dumb if you ask me. It's tragic, but there shouldn't be anybody at fault, and the people who sold him the heroin should be behind bars for selling heroin, not for selling heroin to a famous person.

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