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Ok, then there is this.. Second grader roamed streets for hours after teacher locked her out of class for spilled water An angry mother and father in a suburb of Sacramento are suing the Natomas Unified School District after their emotionally distraught seven-year-old daughter was left completely unattended and went wandering around town all by herself in the middle of a Wednesday school day. The incident began to unfold around 9 a.m. on Dec. 18 at Jefferson Elementary School in Natomas, Calif, reports KTXL Jason Dillard said that his second-grade daughter, Samaya, had spilled some water in class. The teacher, Lupe Rodriguez, was frustrated about it. In response, Dillard said, Rodriguez dragged the seven-year-old girl out of class as she was sitting in her chair. The lawsuit describes Rodriguez’s behavior as “a fit of frightening rage,” notes The Sacramento Bee. Rodriguez allegedly left the girl outside the class for quite awhile until she eventually wandered down the hall, out the door and off school grounds. “When I finally got the call from the school, it was 11:30,” said Dillard. “So when I get to the school and I say, ‘When was the last time you saw my child,’ and they say, ’9:30,’ I’m thinking, ‘Okay, this girl might not ever come back.’” Meanwhile, Samaya had quite an adventure. She moseyed down a busy road. She traipsed over an interstate over pass at one point, crossing freeway entrance and exit ramps. She then kept walking, for about two miles altogether. She stopped into a Walmart. She eventually ambled into an On the Border fast-casual restaurant and asked for a cup of water. Employees at On the Border contacted police and asked for an officer to come to the restaurant to make sure the girl was okay. The police refused, apparently believing that a seven-year-old girl walking around with no adult supervision in the middle of a school day is nothing to be alarmed about. . Video footage from both the Walmart and the On the Border restaurant shows that she was there. The second grader then turned around and wandered back the way she came. The girl’s likely frantic father was the one who found her. She was walking around the family’s neighborhood. Samaya’s mother, Damia Dillard, said the event was traumatizing for her daughter. “She said that she felt like nobody loved her, nobody cared about her,” the mom said, fighting back tears. School district officials have been basically mum about the lawsuit. “We cannot comment on the claim’s allegations or the parties involved because it is a pending legal matter, and because it involves a minor and a personnel issue,” the district’s statement reads. The statement adds that the district’s employees “care deeply about all children in Natomas” and are unified “firmly committed to” safety. Samaya had previously attended a charter school before transferring into the public school system because Jefferson Elementary is closer to their home. The Dillards say they now regret that decision, to say the least. Samaya has since changed schools. Follow Eric on Twitter and on Facebook, and send education-related story tips to erico@dailycaller.com. web page
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ok, so I'm going to ask the important question that everyone is thinking about with this story:
Did she spill the glass of water at On The Border?
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ok, so I'm going to ask the important question that everyone is thinking about with this story:
Did she spill the glass of water at On The Border?
I think the real question here is why was she getting another glass of water? Was this to get back at her teacher or was it just a would be redemption story?
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I was scratching my knee. My hand was nowhere near my pocket. 
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ok, so I'm going to ask the important question that everyone is thinking about with this story:
Did she spill the glass of water at On The Border?
I think the real question here is why was she getting another glass of water? Was this to get back at her teacher or was it just a would be redemption story?
well, she spilled her first glass of water, then needed to meander all over the city in order to find another to quench her thirst. it is a story of survival! (with the redemption angle built-in if she was able to quench her thirst with that 2nd glass of water)
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food is a very important aspect of different cultures. to say otherwise is purely ignorant and quite frankly, one of many reasons why our country is viewed so poorly in many parts of the world.
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Food is most definitely part of any culture, it is something to celebrate (see Italian festivals, Irish Fest, Oktoberfests and their immense popularity). I've said it to people before and not just on the internet, and would say it again, in a heartbeat.
To not celebrate the food of a culture is to miss out on a large part of not only the culture, but of the history of that culture.
Pasta, red wine and tiramisu to celebrate my Italian heritage
Corned beef and cabbage, beer and potato candy to celebrate my Irish heritage.
Minus the alcohol, if my daughters school served either of those meals to specifically celebrate those cultures, I'd actually encourage her to buy lunch those days and we don't usually buy lunch, we usually pack.
See here is the issue which people are not understanding.
(I am speaking from my own experience and do not know how other black people feel).
I do not have specific ethnic culture of food to eat. I grew up eating pizza, Chinese food (which I am pretty much addicted to), Tacos, all types of veggies, fried chicken, and hamburgers.
Swish is half Turkish which means that he grew up eating Turkish food that he can identity with. You have both Italian and German ancestry which I am assuming that you grew up with specific dishes that you love and cherish that you can identified with. I simply do not have this, the food that I grew up with is literally a melting pot of different foods from different cultures. My fondest memories of food is when my mother cooked turkey casserole after Thanksgiving, or her kielbasa, peppers and potato hash.
The stereotypes about these specific foods have been in place for a long time and in the early part of the century the stereotypes were hateful, racist and and help spread hate. So when people make these references like its not that big of deal its insulting, people might not think of it as a big deal because it doesn't affect them, but the same sterotypes are embedded consciously and sub-consciously and people don't realize it.
Don't believe me?
I have a very simple test.
Do a Google search for "Black american watermelon" and click the images.
Do a Google search for "Italian american spaghetti" and click the images.
What do you see?
(if you are brave search "black people watermelon" and click images.
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I also think its funny how people talk about the the black culture like its spanned back hundreds of years or millenniums. The fried chicken, watermelon culture that people are stereotyping as black culture food started here when slavery started in the 1800s. According to Wikipedia pasta was created in Sicily the 12th century. The Italian culture had pasta for almost an entire millennium before black people were in america. So this notion of the black culture's food is fried chicken and watermelon is funny. Just a FYI black people originated from many different parts of Africa which have many different ethnic cuisines, cultures and specific things that help them identify with their culture. If I knew which African culture that my ancestry was from (which would have hundreds of years or millenniums) of history I would would fully embrace the the culture with open arms. If I grew up eating that ethnic food then I would be honored to have that as a school lunch however that is not the case.
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Second grader roamed streets for hours after teacher locked her out of class for spilled water
As a new father to a girl, I could not imagine this, its so terrible on so many levels. My wife and I are angry when the day care sends us wrong clothes home lol, I couldn't even something like this can happen .
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I also think its funny how people talk about the the black culture like its spanned back hundreds of years or millenniums. The fried chicken, watermelon culture that people are stereotyping as black culture food started here when slavery started in the 1800s. According to Wikipedia pasta was created in Sicily the 12th century. The Italian culture had pasta for almost an entire millennium before black people were in america. So this notion of the black culture's food is fried chicken and watermelon is funny.
Just a FYI black people originated from many different parts of Africa which have many different ethnic cuisines, cultures and specific things that help them identify with their culture. If I knew which African culture that my ancestry was from (which would have hundreds of years or millenniums) of history I would would fully embrace the the culture with open arms. If I grew up eating that ethnic food then I would be honored to have that as a school lunch however that is not the case.
I get your point.. but at the same time, they have to serve something that 1. they know how to make, 2. is affordable enough to make in large quantities and 3. high school kids are actually going to eat. That rules out pretty much anything that is "authentically" African.
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bro it doesn't matter if our culture started a 1000 years ago or yesterday,
you're mad about nothing, imo. when you go to olive garden, do you expect to eat mexican food?
when you go to Hot Wok on the corner, do you expect to eat german food?
fried chicken and whatever, yes, everybody eats it. but its our STYLE of chicken, mac and cheese, collard greens, whatever that makes it unique.
if one of the board members went to the store RIGHT NOW, and bought mac and cheese from the box, is that the same style of mac and cheese we eat at our family reunions?
you bet your ass it isn't.
you should be happy that schools or companies even encourage this type of thing. i don't see puerto ricans getting mad when the city holds PR day parades. they embrace it. its a chance for people to learn something they didn't know about us.
its the same thing with my other half, if they had a Middle eastern month, you bet your ass i'd be sending them turkish recipes they can cook up and let the kids enjoy.
whats the problem?
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DC, sorry man, but him and others need to stop that african crap.
the majority of the community not only has no interest in ever GOING to africa, they make fun of the native africans that come to our country. he can't even argue that cause he knows its true.
have anyone ever been to africa? i have, and they look at blacks from africa like we are beneath THEM, the same people with no food and water and needing aid. i was deployed to AFRICOM for a year, they barely make eye contact with us.
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According to Wikipedia pasta was created in Sicily the 12th century. The Italian culture had pasta for almost an entire millennium before black people were in america. So this notion of the black culture's food is fried chicken and watermelon is funny.
That is false. Pasta originated in China. I believe Marco Polo brought it back from one of his expeditions, but I may be wrong about that. Now that I think about it, I believe some even dispute that notion and that pasta was introduced to Italy at a later date. I really can't remember, but I know pasta was not created in Sicily.
Btw........I am Italian.
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bro it doesn't matter if our culture started a 1000 years ago or yesterday,
lol the funny thing is that you think (and probably other people think) that I am this angry black man, which is so far from the truth. My favorite band right now is sublime, before that it was avenged sevenfold. I drink IPAs and other craft beers. Me and my wife have tailgated with many people on these board for the past 2 years, some people know who I am, other people may not remember me.
You don't understand and you will never understand. As black man I do not have a culture food I do not have an identity that I can point to. My identity is american and I am black man, I do not identify as half this, or half that I can easily talk about how my father's mother was Italian, or that my mother's father who was Mr. Mt Pleasent who was of polish decent who was probably the only white looking person on Kinsman. This is because the world sees me as a 6'3 and half 350lb awesome black man.
It is very easy for you to talk about culture when you as you stated many times before that you are half Turkish . You have your own ethnic cuisine and culture to fall on which again you have stated that you love. I don't have this mythical culture food that you are saying black people eat. I didn't eat fried chicken, and watermelon every week or once a month. We ate whatever my mother provided for us. Did you eat your ethnic food once a week or once month?
I am not going to be happy about any type of mockery that is encouraged by sterotypes, you may not understand this because you are half Turkish but for most black people we find the watermelon comment offensive. You may have different experiences but history has shown us that the the sterotypes for watermelon is real. I have provided and excellent test so that everyone can experience how offensive the watermelon stereotype really yes but no one has yet responded. Also someone has provided an exclent link on the history of the sterotype.
That African crap that I was talking about.. are....(wait for it)... facts. If you would like to dispute them please do. I simply stated that my ancestry is somewhere in Africa and there is no way for me to find out. I understand how Africans look at black Americans and I understand why but that don't make it right.
Again you are going with this community crap, you are talking about that hood stuff, of course people in poverty not talking about going to Africa. How are you going to talk about going to Florida if you barely feeding yourself, let alone paying 4-5k for a trip to Africa.
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According to Wikipedia pasta was created in Sicily the 12th century. The Italian culture had pasta for almost an entire millennium before black people were in america. So this notion of the black culture's food is fried chicken and watermelon is funny.
That is false. Pasta originated in China. I believe Marco Polo brought it back from one of his expeditions, but I may be wrong about that. Now that I think about it, I believe some even dispute that notion and that pasta was introduced to Italy at a later date. I really can't remember, but I know pasta was not created in Sicily.
Btw........I am Italian.
Not sure if you know how Wikipedia works, but Wikipedia is information that is user submitted and sometimes is wrong, however for the most part it is plausible truthful and if it is wrong please post me an academic scholarly article that shows that pasta originated in China. Please make sure the source is credible and properly cite your sources.
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I thought that China was more rice and soy than wheat. Maybe rice noodles might predate wheat pasta ? I really couldn't say for sure though.
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bro, seriously?
you coming across like because i'm half turkish i have no idea how our community works. i will never understand. its like in your eyes i might as well be 100 turkish.
thats not how this works. i didn't grow up in turkey. i wasn't born in turkey. i'm american. and i grew up in the same area you did.
here's a better one for you. when i get pulled over by the cops, guess what they call me? black.
nobody is saying we eat "ethnic" food everyday. you putting words in mine and other peoples mouth's.
that like saying puerto ricans eat spanish food everyday. tell that to somebody with a straight face, and you'll probably get smacked.
straight up.
sorry man, your post, imo, is a solid reason why other groups in america have a problem relating to us. our community gets butt hurt over everything. EVERYTHING. nobody can say anything about us without coming across as racist or stereotyping. we wanna be treated as equals, but when people actually do, ala culture days, we get offended.
makes no damn sense.
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Are you upset because I corrected you? Seriously?
I wasn't being mean or insulting. I was simply correcting an error that was published on Wiki.
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lol I could care less I am not offended at all, but you can't correct an error with out proof... (just saying)
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I think the reason why people have issues relating to us because there are so many misconceptions about us and not everyone can fit in the stereotypical mode. The media portrays us a negative way, some music artists just a joke (2 chainz) , and we ourselves display ourselves in negative way. I can't blame people for how the feel or how they see things based on their own experiences, but if I can debunk steroptypes I will. If I can point something out and actually prove my point with factual data, then in my eyes it will help relationships eventually. I may not reap the benefits because people probably have their specific opinions about me however, they might think twice if they make a comment about watermelon towards a black person. By them knowing that this offensive it will now allow them to have a stronger relationship then before.
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So since you don't frequently eat fried chicken and watermelon, you are saying it isn't frequently a staple in the diets of most African Americans?
I find that funny. How many soul food restaurants are there that don't have collard greens, fried chicken and watermelon on their menus? I believe it's funny that many such restaurants that supposedly represent the black communities culture serve the exact same foods you find to be offensive and nobody seems to call them out on it.
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So since you don't frequently eat fried chicken and watermelon, you are saying it isn't frequently a staple in the diets of most African Americans?
I find that funny. How many soul food restaurants are there that don't have collard greens, fried chicken and watermelon on their menus? I believe it's funny that many such restaurants that supposedly represent the black communities culture serve the exact same foods you find to be offensive and nobody seems to call them out on it.
I have been to many soul food restaurants, and not once have I seen watermelon served. Fried Chicken is a pretty much true stereotype, but not the watermelon part, and it has taken on a black sambo tye negative connotation.
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So since you don't frequently eat fried chicken and watermelon, you are saying it isn't frequently a staple in the diets of most African Americans?
I find that funny. How many soul food restaurants are there that don't have collard greens, fried chicken and watermelon on their menus? I believe it's funny that many such restaurants that supposedly represent the black communities culture serve the exact same foods you find to be offensive and nobody seems to call them out on it.
I have been to many soul food restaurants, and not once have I seen watermelon served. Fried Chicken is a pretty much true stereotype, but not the watermelon part, and it has taken on a black sambo tye negative connotation.
I have seen watermelon BBQ sauce used in a few though. (back when I lived in Cleveland)
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I'm a little confused. If collard greens and fried chicken are sold in many soul food restaurants, then it's either true, or it's a stereotype. I'm not clear on how it can be both?
So would that mean if they had served fried chicken and collard greens, yet left out the watermelon, everything would have been fine?
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My mother's family was from the deepest part of the hollers of WVA. Every female could make THE best fried chicken I've ever had. Chicken, especially fried, was a staple for them. Now my mother NEVER saw a black man until she went to Cleveland around 1948 or so. Absolutely ZERO contacts with blacks down home and yet fried chicken was plentiful.
Fried chicken isn't so much a black thing as a southern thing and many blacks have southern roots as I.
I've no black heritage but I like all the foods this school served!
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My mother's family was from the deepest part of the hollers of WVA. Every female could make THE best fried chicken I've ever had. Chicken, especially fried, was a staple for them. Now my mother NEVER saw a black man until she went to Cleveland around 1948 or so. Absolutely ZERO contacts with blacks down home and yet fried chicken was plentiful.
Fried chicken isn't so much a black thing as a southern thing and many blacks have southern roots as I.
I've no black heritage but I like all the foods this school served!
Actually both sides of my family are from the mountains of south eastern Kentucky. My dad was one who I believed recognized the reality that so many refuse to come to.
That's if people weren't so concerned about the differences in each other and found a common thread, the division in our nation would be far less.
The fact is these foods arose from "the poor". It was common for most all poor people to eat more chicken, pork and garden grown foods. It's what they had access to and was inexpensive to raise. It is "the culture of the poor".
As far back as I could trace my family, they were sharecroppers. Much the same as were many freed slaves. He also taught me that as long as class wars existed, keeping such people divided served to weaken the voice of the poor and working class.
That these divisions kept many from gaining opportunities and advancing because their was far too much division for them to work together to establish their goals into action.
That's what troubles me about such threads than anything. I see the division going on still today.
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I'm a little confused. If collard greens and fried chicken are sold in many soul food restaurants, then it's either true, or it's a stereotype. I'm not clear on how it can be both?
So would that mean if they had served fried chicken and collard greens, yet left out the watermelon, everything would have been fine?
Yes, I think so. Watermelon is a joke that only exists because of some earlier anti negro artwork.
I work at a college. Every so often at one of the dining halls they have soul food night. Nobody gets mad about that, hell the black students love that night, and they have fried chicken, and mac and cheese, greens, sweet potato pie, ham hocks, all that traditional soul food.
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I'm a little confused. If collard greens and fried chicken are sold in many soul food restaurants, then it's either true, or it's a stereotype. I'm not clear on how it can be both?
So would that mean if they had served fried chicken and collard greens, yet left out the watermelon, everything would have been fine?
Yes, I think so. Watermelon is a joke that only exists because of some earlier anti negro artwork.
I work at a college. Every so often at one of the dining halls they have soul food night. Nobody gets mad about that, hell the black students love that night, and they have fried chicken, and mac and cheese, greens, sweet potato pie, ham hocks, all that traditional soul food.
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I absolutely love fried chicken. I love mac and cheese. I hate sweet potatoes, never had collard greens, don't even know what ham hocks are............so, apparently, what does that make me?
A stereo type? An uneducated rural person? A southerner? Maybe an uneducated northerner with stereotype qualities? Maybe an educated northerner even if I am rural?
Or - maybe it just means I like fried chicken.
Hey, I like fries too. And anything I make with eggs. I like tortilla shells with pizza sauce and sliced roast beer........maybe that means I part mexican, part italian, and part roast beef lover.
This whole thread is people bitching about stereotypes (uh, check out stereotype), and others bitching about it, and others bitching about the stereotype.
Show me one person that doesn't like fried chicken and I'll show you a vegetarian.
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Yep, most of the foods that are being mentioned are southern foods.
The school was probably stupid to serve that meal in this day and age of political correctness. However, I would guess that if they served succotash, fry bread, and buffalo meat during Native American month, there were not be such a big deal being made of it.
Then again, do we have a time where we celebrate Native Americans, you know, the people that were here first and who had their land stolen from them?
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I'll fill you in.....Collards......kind of like spinach.....like a root top such as a carrott.....kind of like poke, but not a tough.....good eats IMO. Think turnip greens.
Ham Hock.....the ankle of a pig. Not a lot of meat, but some, but it can flavor a pot.....beans, collards, mustard, poke, or turnip greens cooked with a hock in it.....good stuff.
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