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Interesting. I never knew that. Thanks.
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My mother's family was from the deepest part of the hollers of WVA. Every female could make THE best fried chicken I've ever had. Chicken, especially fried, was a staple for them. Now my mother NEVER saw a black man until she went to Cleveland around 1948 or so. Absolutely ZERO contacts with blacks down home and yet fried chicken was plentiful.
Fried chicken isn't so much a black thing as a southern thing and many blacks have southern roots as I.
I've no black heritage but I like all the foods this school served!
Actually both sides of my family are from the mountains of south eastern Kentucky. My dad was one who I believed recognized the reality that so many refuse to come to.
That's if people weren't so concerned about the differences in each other and found a common thread, the division in our nation would be far less.
The fact is these foods arose from "the poor". It was common for most all poor people to eat more chicken, pork and garden grown foods. It's what they had access to and was inexpensive to raise. It is "the culture of the poor".
As far back as I could trace my family, they were sharecroppers. Much the same as were many freed slaves. He also taught me that as long as class wars existed, keeping such people divided served to weaken the voice of the poor and working class.
That these divisions kept many from gaining opportunities and advancing because their was far too much division for them to work together to establish their goals into action.
That's what troubles me about such threads than anything. I see the division going on still today.
"organ meat."
Once, the sole province of the poorest of the poor, it was considered 'beneath' the aristocracy to ever eat such a thing.
At least 6 generations of American missed out on some seriously good eats because of class distinctions: "Here... I'm done with this- see what you can do with the rest of it-"
Now, a plate of sweetbreads* in Manhattan costs a king's ransom.
I hate it when my gastronomical neighborhood starts becoming all gentrified....

* Sweetbreads: a protein dish made from the Bovine thymus gland. Blanched, seasoned, dredged is seasoned flour, and pan-seared. Boom.
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Just a note..........I know all those fried foods taste good, but it's a real problem here in the south in regards to obesity, heart disease, and diabetes.
Stay away from fried foods.
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I'll fill you in.....Collards......kind of like spinach.....like a root top such as a carrott.....kind of like poke, but not a tough.....good eats IMO. Think turnip greens
Ever had dandelion greens, 'Peen?
When I was a kid, I looked across the street, and saw Mom Baty out in her back yard, digging around in the yard. (Mom & Pop Baty were old when I thought my parents were old. They were the 'grandparent figures' for the entire neighborhood. Mom Baty provided the sweets, treats and hugs, while Pop Baty always had jokes and a wad of quarters in his pocket. We all loved those old people: they were important parts of the soul of our neighborhood.)
I asked My Momz what she was doing with that basket and hand shovel..
"Just wait- you'll see-"
Forgot all about it. Next day, we sit down to dinner, and there's this cooked- spinach lookin' stuff on my plate. I take a tentative nibble.... dingdingding! After I'd had seconds, Momz says: "You just ate what you saw Mom Baty digging up yesterday."
My first taste of dandelion greens. But not my last, by all means.
Tip: "They're only good when ya get'em early and young. End of April- forget it, honey- too tough and bitter." -Mom Baty
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Just a note..........I know all those fried foods taste good, but it's a real problem here in the south in regards to obesity, heart disease, and diabetes.
Stay away from fried foods.
Agreed.
I get my sweetbread fix about twice per year. We have an annual summer fish fry. After that- pretty much nothing fried.
(I always love it when we have it.... but I always feel like 'Jabba The Hutt' for the next day or two- it's awful-)
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Yeah, I like fried food too. However, we only eat in on rare occasions. I suspect it won't be too bad if you only have fried food once every few months.
You should see the State Fair in Columbia. They have fried butter, fried pepsi, fried pickles, etc. Freaking gross.
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You can probably eat some fried food on a weekly basis and not have a real problem. The problem is people do it 5-6-7 times a week when you add up all meals.
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I'm a little confused. If collard greens and fried chicken are sold in many soul food restaurants, then it's either true, or it's a stereotype. I'm not clear on how it can be both?
So would that mean if they had served fried chicken and collard greens, yet left out the watermelon, everything would have been fine?
Yes, I think so. Watermelon is a joke that only exists because of some earlier anti negro artwork.
I work at a college. Every so often at one of the dining halls they have soul food night. Nobody gets mad about that, hell the black students love that night, and they have fried chicken, and mac and cheese, greens, sweet potato pie, ham hocks, all that traditional soul food.
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I absolutely love fried chicken. I love mac and cheese. I hate sweet potatoes, never had collard greens, don't even know what ham hocks are............so, apparently, what does that make me?
A stereo type? An uneducated rural person? A southerner? Maybe an uneducated northerner with stereotype qualities? Maybe an educated northerner even if I am rural?
Or - maybe it just means I like fried chicken.
Hey, I like fries too. And anything I make with eggs. I like tortilla shells with pizza sauce and sliced roast beer........maybe that means I part mexican, part italian, and part roast beef lover.
This whole thread is people bitching about stereotypes (uh, check out stereotype), and others bitching about it, and others bitching about the stereotype.
Show me one person that doesn't like fried chicken and I'll show you a vegetarian.
This has nothing to do with what foods anyone likes. I dont know why people come up with " well I like fried chicken too" . Yes, I get it, just about everybody likes good fried chicken.
By putting in watermelon(and yes I know people like watermelon), it has become a derogatory stereotype. As was shown earlier in a link, look at the pictures involved involved in blask folks and watermelon. [image]http://http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODQ2WDgzMQ==/z/KS8AAOxy~g5Rukhp/$(KGrHqJ,!rYFGWK9J3OmBRukhov4!g~~60_35.JPG [/image]
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But this is just LMAO worthy 
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Yes, because if you want to celebrate something you don't make a mockery out of it.
A celebration needs to highlight the achievement(s) of the event/person/thing.
whether or not it is a mockery is in the eye of the beholder...
I disagree, its up to the persons intentions. If a person is maliciously doing something to be offensive then they are mocking. If they are not doing it maliciously then its just ignorance. Either way it should never have been said/done.
Their menu is not all that different than the occasional we got while I was in school some 25+ years ago. My guess, is some administrator somewhere decided to label it as a celebration of Black history, but most likely it's on the menu every other month or so anyway.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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I guess I'm old school to. I'm in the camp where there's just to many people thats to willing to tell other people how to live, what to eat what to do. Rubbish! My Dad was raised in So. KY. and they ate red eyed gravy, Jowl bacon, greens with bacon grease, (my favorite) his whole life.
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when you go to Hot Wok on the corner, do you expect to eat german food?
Does anyone even know what German food is anymore, other than sausage? I'd like me a nice schnitzel with some spaetzle, followed by a strudel. I'd also like a beer, pretzel, and a pickle while I celebrate my Germanity.
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Just a note..........I know all those fried foods taste good, but it's a real problem here in the south in regards to obesity, heart disease, and diabetes.
Stay away from fried foods.
Does that mean I should give up my fried pickles?
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when you go to Hot Wok on the corner, do you expect to eat german food?
Does anyone even know what German food is anymore, other than sausage? I'd like me a nice schnitzel with some spaetzle, followed by a strudel. I'd also like a beer, pretzel, and a pickle while I celebrate my Germanity.
I dunno. I'm mainly English with a little Slovak. What the heck do I eat besides fish and chips? 
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That good kidney pudding.
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That good kidney pudding.
I will leave all kidneys, livers, and hearts to other people. Bleh.
No dried fruit for me either.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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