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What a complete cluster. I am amazed at the total ineptness that this portrays. Just when I think they can't surprise me, they go and do it once again.
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So... Which one of us is submitting their resume first?
I'm typing mine up as we speak.
Already sent mine... hey I have 14 years coaching youth football... I am in !!!!
Hah! I have 50 years of knowing it all ........ I'm a shoe in. 
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We're the laughing stock of the NFL. The only bright side is that Lombardi is gone.
Nice we can add some comic relief.... really who gives a rats A about what others think... we know we are a dysfunctional family ... but we stand together, well excpet for Banner, Lombardi, Crennel, Davis, Shurmer, Chud, Turner, Horton, Palmer, Lerner, Mangini, just to name a few
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Jimmy must've felt snookered with the league-arranged marriage and wanted out.
Wouldn't be surprised if he's participating in a lengthy, league-arranged conversation here soon. He's had an itchy trigger finger since the end of the regular season.
I wonder if he's had input from other owners. I've always pictured the Rooneys as ones that would be open to provide him w/ all kinds of advise & constructive criticism.
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Somewhere in Indianapolis, Chud is laughing his butt off......
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Best News all day....
Called it!!!
Not sure how to take that. I feel Lombardi is a terrible talent evaluator and having Ray Farmer be the GM to me puts us in a better situation come draft day.
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This is nuts. The dysfunction and turnover has reached a ridiculous level, and everyone is right to ridicule Haslam and the Browns as a whole.
I understand that and expect it, and have no argument against it.
At the same time, however, I am not upset. I think that maybe, just maybe, the Browns have stumbled into a situation that has a decent chance to work, once the dust settles.
From what I have read, Ray Farmer has a good reputation in NFL circles. He is considered smart and qualified and an up-and-comer in the league.
Pettine has consistently coordinated good-to-great defenses, seems like a leader and a teacher, and has a reputation as a very good talent evaluator for a coach (from the book Collision Low Crossers by Nicholas Dawidoff).
The Browns now have a more traditional front-office structure, with Owner->GM->Head Coach. The GM is 39 and well-respected, the Head Coach is 47 and has a positive pedigree. It might just work.
If it does work the Browns will certainly have reached this point in a roundabout and laughable way, but in the end, if they win, no one will care.
The process has been a disaster, but hopefully the outcome will be good. I think it has a ddecent chance to be.
Agreed, I still am of the feeling this is a good thing and we have youthful leadership in place with Farmer, Pettine and Scheiner.... I got no problem with Haslam finally putting HIS stamp on HIS team... about time in my book 
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Christmas has come early this year. Someone finally realized that Banner and Lombardi were FAKES!!.. Think about it, Banner/Lombardi probably sold old jimmy on the fact that Chud was crap and that the Browns could get anyone to coach them. After that blew up in their faces and they signed the last man standing. Jimmy had to pull the plug on the two stooges!!... Makes me wonder how Jimmy made all his money??? 
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I was just thinking the other day how nice it would be if we had Farmer as GM instead of Dumbardi. 
So which draft pick are you thinking 
Then gimme lottery numbers...
***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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I feel better about this newest insane wrinkle. This has to be Haslam getting fired up to take hands on control more directly. Somebody lost a power struggle or created too much heat. JH must have gotten fed up. Might salvage some respectability from this. Chud still looked like a trumped up, shoot the victim scheme. Go forward now.
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Yeah, unfortunately for at least Banner and Lombardi, that name will follow them for quite awhile.
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So... Which one of us is submitting their resume first?
I'm typing mine up as we speak.
Already sent mine... hey I have 14 years coaching youth football... I am in !!!!
Hah! I have 50 years of knowing it all ........ I'm a shoe in.
DAMN Ya got me... can I be your asst GM?
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Jimmy Haslam: Purpose of moves is to provide fans with winner they deserve Posted by Josh Alper on February 11, 2014, 10:20 AM EST The Browns will hold a press conference at 11:30 am E.T. to discuss the unexpected changes to the front office that they announced on Tuesday morning. Ray Farmer is replacing Mike Lombardi as the team’s general manager while CEO Joe Banner will be stepping down in the next two months as the organization continues the housecleaning that started with Rob Chudzinski’s ouster as head coach after one season. We’d expect many of the questions at the press conference to be a variation on “What in the world is going on here?” and owner Jimmy Haslam got the ball rolling on explaining the moves in a statement. “First of all, we wanted to capitalize on the knowledge, experience and character we’re fortunate to have in Ray Farmer,” Haslam said. “Ray has a tremendous football IQ, he’s compelling, and he understands the types of players we need to acquire and develop in order to win in Cleveland. He embraces his partnership with Mike Pettine, which is critical in helping build the right team. Ray will provide excellent leadership in our front office. … [Lombardi] is an experienced and creative NFL executive with a unique ability to see the big picture. He has tremendous instincts and I know he’ll be a valuable addition to any NFL organization. We simply wanted to give Ray this opportunity that he’s earned. We wanted to move forward under his leadership and capabilities. The purpose of these moves is to unify our team with one, unequivocal goal: Provide our fans with the winning organization they have long deserved.” At the moment, it would be easy to believe just about anything is possible for the Browns except for that outcome. Banner also released a statement, calling his departure from the team “bittersweet.” Confusing would be another word for it, especially after Banner and Lombardi were part of the team’s search for Chudzinski’s replacement. Coming up with an explanation that also explains how this puts the team on the path toward that winning organization would be a good way for Haslam to battle the growing perception that dysfunction is the only thing functioning in Cleveland at the moment.
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Somewhere in Indianapolis, Chud is laughing his butt off......
My gut tells me Jimmy is the guy who pulled the plug on Chud. Just a feeling.
Whew!
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I am sure a lot of this has to do with the thinking on the QB position.
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But I just bought my new Three Stooges T-shirt . . . . Poopy.
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Think this decision was reached by consensus?
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jc some of you can call gloom and doom and worry about others perception.... me , ....I was willing to give the new FO a shot, now I dont have to.... I am as happy as a mule eating briars.....
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So... Which one of us is submitting their resume first?
I'm typing mine up as we speak.
Already sent mine... hey I have 14 years coaching youth football... I am in !!!!
Hah! I have 50 years of knowing it all ........ I'm a shoe in.
DAMN Ya got me... can I be your asst GM?
Sorry, but I am hiring a staff of 18 year old hot blonde chicks to work ...ahem ..... directly under me.  
Oh wait ...... I reformed from that kind of wanton behavior. DogGoneIt! 
Sure, I guess you can be the assistant them. How much worse can we screw things up?
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What a complete cluster. I am amazed at the total ineptness that this portrays. Just when I think they can't surprise me, they go and do it once again.
It's either Ineptness or brilliant. Time will tell. I don't know many that were pleased with the Lombardi or Banner hire last year . I wasn't. But I warmed to them as the year went on after seeing some of the moves they made..
For me, they tanked with the firing of Chud and his staff. So man, I don't know what happened but wow, this was just out of nowhere. Didn't see this coming. I thought they'd be the scapegoats next season if we failed next year.
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Wow. Whats going on? Is Jim Haslem and Dan Gilbert playing a game? Who to fire next? Lmao.
This is unexpected.
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Agreed, I still am of the feeling this is a good thing and we have youthful leadership in place with Farmer, Pettine and Scheiner.... I got no problem with Haslam finally putting HIS stamp on HIS team... about time in my book
What? He had that chance the first time around, and he apparently got EVERY major personnel decision wrong. So wrong that they only lasted ONE season. Who in the hell trusts this guy now? I was willing to give him a chance. I'm done. He is in way over his head from what I see.
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For me, they tanked with the firing of Chud and his staff. So man, I don't know what happened but wow, this was just out of nowhere. Didn't see this coming. I thought they'd be the scapegoats next season if we failed next year.
Ding... Ding... we have a winner!!!..
Old Jimmy slick did not like how that entire espisode went down. Jimmy thought he was getting some great coach that Banner/Lombardi told him they would get but they ended up with another asst coach wanna be!!
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I was just thinking the other day how nice it would be if we had Farmer as GM instead of Dumbardi.
So which draft pick are you thinking
Then gimme lottery numbers...
Not sure yet, still doing research.
The lottery numbers are 1 to 49.
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Okay, I'm a bit surprised at the overall tone here.
I understand that we need continuity and am a proponent. However, I did not like the Lombardi hire and have not liked his moves to this point. So, I would only hope the talent evaluation goes up from here.
Banner I was more iffy on. I didn't like him sitting on cap money last offseason with glaring holes, but our business moves more or less seemed to work out okay. My guess is that the vision he sold Haslam on last offseason fell on its face and Haslam had all of this planned out since December.
Also, Ward & Mack not being signed despite that money and now having big years and going to cost much more $$$ to retain likely played a small part as well.
Anyways, Farmer and Scheiner were considered great hires when we got them. Let's hope that our young faces in Farmer/Scheiner/Pettine are just what this team needed.
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Well......
CongratS, farmer?
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Wow. Whats going on? Is Jim Haslem and Dan Gilbert playing a game? Who to fire next? Lmao.
Ha ha ha....I LOL'd.
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Jason Cole reporting the Banner and Lombardi not being able to deliver on the coaching search sunk them. Apparently, Banner and Lombardi couldn't deliver their guy to Haslam for the HC position. Is there some truth in McDaniels turning us down? It will be very interesting to hear what comes out after the fact. I for one, like the Scheiner, Farmer and Pettine team. Jason Cole
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This is an interesting thought that is being discussed on WKNR right now.
When Chud was fired, Banner and Lombardi were unable to produce any of the candidates that they told Haslam they could be replace Chud... The announcer is saying t hat may have sealed their fate.
Not sure if that's true or if it's just what is being bantered around. I doubt we ever know that for sure but it's an interesting take just the same
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But I just bought my new Three Stooges T-shirt . . . .
Poopy.
Hey now it's acollectors item.
I have one too, i told my son watch as soon as we buy any jersey or shirt that player is gone... banner is on borrowed time... if I only knew. 
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Daman, I just posted the link to the story you discussed above your post.
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Jason Cole reporting the Banner and Lombardi not being able to deliver on the coaching search sunk them. Apparently, Banner and Lombardi couldn't deliver their guy to Haslam for the HC position. Is there some truth in McDaniels turning us down? It will be very interesting to hear what comes out after the fact.
I for one, like the Scheiner, Farmer and Pettine team.
Jason Cole
LOL I just typed the same thing.....funny
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What happened. We hear Lombardi kept pushing for McDaniels to be HC, creating rift with Banner. Haslam lost appetite for rifts.
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I think we just typed it at the same time. Here's a report that Lombardi was going to be out if Adam Gase had been hired. Take it for what it's worth. Ian Rapoport
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For hilarities sake I hope he fires Pettine and hires Quinn.
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I am sure a lot of this has to do with the thinking on the QB position.
Sam, Sam, Sam, Sam, Sam, Sam, ....
The timing suggests it may have had more to do with their thinking on Sam. Maybe they fell for the "The media will love us if we pick Sam with our first pick" line. Maybe Rich Eisen and John Feinstein had convinced them that if we have Sam play quarterback all would be forgiven on the Chud deal.
I guess I may get a three to four minute break from being constantly told how bad everybody is who doesn't believe exactly everything you are being told to believe on the Sam company line. I'm not sure what I would believe if I didn't have sports journalists telling me what and how to think.
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