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Ray Farmer already hitting the plate hard, or maybe not really. But he makes his first transaction, signing Royce Adams: Quote:
The Ray Farmer era is off to a roaring start.
The new Browns General Manager made his first transaction Wednesday, signing wide receiver Royce Adams.
Yes, THE Royce Adams.
Actually, the Google machine tells us he spent part of last offseason with the Jets, but was released after suffering a knee injury. The former Purdue cornerback has also played in the Arena League.
It will not be the biggest transaction Farmer makes, but it is his first, so there has to be some satisfaction in that for him. And Adams, I suppose.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/12/new-browns-g-m-rolls-out-his-first-transaction/
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Very true. I think there's a type in the article though cause it list him as WR, but I can't find anything that supports that on Google..
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right on, this guy is such a beast he plays both ways.....now thats some depth. two birds one stone lol
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Oh, you didn't know,, he plays both ways LOL
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OK, which is he .... a WR or a CB?
Well, how about this thought? Since Greg Little has problems catching the ball, put him on the defensive side of the ball, as a strong safety (a la Kam Chancellor) and teach him how to hit.
Little is 6'2, 220# and Chancellor is 6'3, 230#. What's wrong with that idea? What would be wrong with exploring that idea? See if Little is up for the move to the defensive side of the ball.
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Actually, I just looked him up, and evidently he was a WR in college, then converted to DB, starting with his time with the Jets, under one coach Mike Pettine.
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so could he be our versus of what Troy Brown was in NE?
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Physically there is nothing wrong with it..... But from what I can tell, Greg Little has no experience as a DB, not even in HS.. and Kam Chancellor has been playing safety from HS... and to expect Greg Little to develop the instincts and technique it takes to play safety at the highest level of the NFL in a season or two is highly optimistic... not impossible I guess, but highly optimistic...
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If Little makes a position move, it will be to TE. He is such a talented blocker that he would be a natural, and he could run simpler, shorter routes where he could really excel. Imagine a LB trying to cover Little.  I like it ...... it makes sense ...... so it will never happen.
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It's interesting to see what people want to do with Greg and position changes... I'm content with just getting him off this team and outta here. He can go let the fans down of some other organization.
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yeah it was staring me in the face... wait a minute.... nevermind 
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If Little makes a position move, it will be to TE. He is such a talented blocker that he would be a natural, and he could run simpler, shorter routes where he could really excel. Imagine a LB trying to cover Little.
I like this idea, and have mentioned before. Using him as a TE/H-back IMO would make sense. He has size, and is not afraid to hit someone. They could use him in motion, and use him on dump-offs and middle screens. He knows how to run, so I think it would be to his advantage. Him against LBs would be nice. The only problem is his hands.
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Little is 6'2, 220# and Chancellor is 6'3, 230#. What's wrong with that idea? What would be wrong with exploring that idea? See if Little is up for the move to the defensive side of the ball.
Physically there is nothing wrong with it..... But from what I can tell, Greg Little has no experience as a DB, not even in HS.. and Kam Chancellor has been playing safety from HS... and to expect Greg Little to develop the instincts and technique it takes to play safety at the highest level of the NFL in a season or two is highly optimistic... not impossible I guess, but highly optimistic...
We don't really know. Maybe he can be taught how to do it. Who knows? If he can't, look to trade him or cut him loose.
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Why bother teach him when we could draft someone who has a a defensive skillset if we want a safety? Let's not try to give too much to our new coaching staff and overload them by having them work with someone from the ground up, especially since Little likely doesn't want to play on the defensive side...
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I agree d_lb, why waste the time of the coaches on trying to change little? If anything I'd want him to play FB/RB
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Now Little at RB or even TE (he can block) is something I don't see as mega far-fetched.
I'll just speak for myself though, I've done given up on the kid. He's depleted my hope for him...
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OK, which is he .... a WR or a CB?
Well, how about this thought? Since Greg Little has problems catching the ball, put him on the defensive side of the ball, as a strong safety (a la Kam Chancellor) and teach him how to hit.
Little is 6'2, 220# and Chancellor is 6'3, 230#. What's wrong with that idea? What would be wrong with exploring that idea? See if Little is up for the move to the defensive side of the ball.
There is nothing wrong with it if there was some evidence he could do it. Did he ever play on any kick cover teams? Maybe try him there and see. He was a running back for a while at N.Carolina or N. Carolina St....can't remember which.
I maintained for many years that IMO we wasted a great opportunity by not putting Josh Cribbs in to a safety slot. He wasn't shy of contact, could tackle, and had ball skills good enough to be a super safety, but we insisted on using him as a receiver where his ball skills weren't quite good enough. As a defensive player he would have been very special IMO.
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Why bother teach him when we could draft someone who has a a defensive skillset if we want a safety? Let's not try to give too much to our new coaching staff and overload them by having them work with someone from the ground up, especially since Little likely doesn't want to play on the defensive side...
Why? Because he's big and catches like a DB. And he has enough of a defensive skillset. With the QBs (excluding Hoyer) that we had last season, he's had plenty of practice going from WR to DB.
Well, it shouldn't matter what the hell Little wants. He either tries to make the change or he can get traded or cut outright.
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What's wrong with that idea? What would be wrong with exploring that idea? See if Little is up for the move to the defensive side of the ball.
Greg Little is an idiot is what's wrong with that idea.
By all accounts, he's an extremely hard worker, but he's weak between the ears, in general and in crunch time.
Unless our talent level bumps him off the depth chart, let him play out his contract. You can win win Little as a fourth or fifth option.
But take the time to try and convert that kid to defense?
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I mostly agree.
I doubt Little gets bumped off the roster this year, but my feeling is the guy is a pansey. He wouldn't make it as a defensive player. You can't be a pansey on that side of the ball.
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What's wrong with that idea? What would be wrong with exploring that idea? See if Little is up for the move to the defensive side of the ball.
Greg Little is an idiot is what's wrong with that idea.
By all accounts, he's an extremely hard worker, but he's weak between the ears, in general and in crunch time.
Unless our talent level bumps him off the depth chart, let him play out his contract. You can win win Little as a fourth or fifth option.
But take the time to try and convert that kid to defense?
You don't throw good money at bad.
Personally, I'd like to see him as a Running back. He's at least done that before.
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he was a RB at North Carolina for a while, would love to see him try that here.
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I unfortunately have to agree with you. I love Little, I really want him to be successful here, but he just does not have attention span to catch the ball. But some games he can just really go off. I don't know, there's just something wrong with him.
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I unfortunately have to agree with you. I love Little, I really want him to be successful here, but he just does not have attention span to catch the ball. But some games he can just really go off. I don't know, there's just something wrong with him.
Watch the second Baltimore game. His ability is built on emotion, when he's feeling it, he's great, but then he's also SUPER emotional (penalties, relatiation, etc)
Edwards always had the problem of not catching the easy pass because it didn't require super duper concentration. I don't think Little is as bad, and again, people forget he's still LEARNING to play WR basically..
I think he can be a solid #2 going forward, and guy I'd love in the Slot actually, because when you do get him the ball in space he is good..
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I unfortunately have to agree with you. I love Little, I really want him to be successful here, but he just does not have attention span to catch the ball. But some games he can just really go off. I don't know, there's just something wrong with him.
Watch the second Baltimore game. His ability is built on emotion, when he's feeling it, he's great, but then he's also SUPER emotional (penalties, relatiation, etc)
Edwards always had the problem of not catching the easy pass because it didn't require super duper concentration. I don't think Little is as bad, and again, people forget he's still LEARNING to play WR basically..
I think he can be a solid #2 going forward, and guy I'd love in the Slot actually, because when you do get him the ball in space he is good..
Man am I glad you're not the GM.
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I unfortunately have to agree with you. I love Little, I really want him to be successful here, but he just does not have attention span to catch the ball. But some games he can just really go off. I don't know, there's just something wrong with him.
Watch the second Baltimore game. His ability is built on emotion, when he's feeling it, he's great, but then he's also SUPER emotional (penalties, relatiation, etc)
Edwards always had the problem of not catching the easy pass because it didn't require super duper concentration. I don't think Little is as bad, and again, people forget he's still LEARNING to play WR basically..
I think he can be a solid #2 going forward, and guy I'd love in the Slot actually, because when you do get him the ball in space he is good..
Man am I glad you're not the GM.
Little is a bum, and has proven to be a bum since he's been here.
Yeah.. Because keeping the guy on the roster is such a stupid idea.. Good thing we cut him..
Oh wait.. He's still on the roster..
And he'll be a free agent next year, and either well keep him, or someone else will sign him..
But I guess that just means everyone else is a "bum" too..
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he is a FA next year huh?
well, with a (hopefully) new QB coming in, the FO might keep this guy and see how he responds with another QB, hopefully a situation where we aren't a revolving door at that position this season coming up.
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Agreed.
While he has disappointed he has also shown flashes and he is a beast to bring down.
Last year on contract, new QB and staff... we could cut him, create another hole and have some dead cap money or we could keep him for one more year and see if the light comes on.
I say one more shot, we have enough holes to fill , he is still servicable.
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I wish that stupid phrase would be disallowed on this board. It's a lame insult that does nothing to aide the conversation. You are basically calling someone stupid.
How about this? I disagree w/you on Little because [insert reasons here].
Wouldn't that be a more effective way to debate a particular topic?
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Agreed...at least until he exhausts his "potential".
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How many shots you guys need to give someone whose played three seasons and still has the same resume? Inconsistent and stone handed?
Although I do know of the 'flashes' you speak of, it's no good if there isn't any balance or consistency. But a thought just popped up into my head. If coach is "going to hold players accountable" - then maybe we should keep Greg. I'd be most anxious to see how Pettine handles that situation. Mean of me to say perhaps, but I'd love to see Mike right in Greg's face after a drop, seeing the spit and slobber coming from just before he tells Greg he's going to be benched...
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Although I do know of the 'flashes' you speak of, it's no good if there isn't any balance or consistency. But a thought just popped up into my head. If coach is "going to hold players accountable" - then maybe we should keep Greg. I'd be most anxious to see how Pettine handles that situation. Mean of me to say perhaps, but I'd love to see Mike right in Greg's face after a drop, seeing the spit and slobber coming from just before he tells Greg he's going to be benched...
Oh I agree he time is running short and i really do not expect him to improve much, but I think releasing him, gives us another slot to fill, geates dead cap money and I just think we have more pressing needs.
My guess is Pettine will be the kind not to take mental errors very well.
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And he has enough of a defensive skillset. I'm confused just where did you see this skill set. All you got are his physical numbers and saying he can play. Its not that easy of a transition for a College Safety let alone a kid who has played WR. I mean you want him in some Prevent Defense packages? I guess so.
As for Little. He's got one year to prove his worth. He is confusing cause one game Norv Turner called him out and he looked like a Pro-Bowler.  I mean Greg what happened with the other 15 games???
Lucky for him we once again have another new OC who will want to decide on what he sees and Little has another chance to impress. Which for some reason he seemed to do so in training camp last year which those glowing reports had us all excited. Will Hoyer starting get him emotional in a positive way? Will drafting a legit Franchise QB at #4 get him excited???
Don't know...what I do know he has one more season to prove himself. I mean if we had an over load of talent at WR I would say sorry Little got to make room and cut you...But last I looked we did not. So he should be here - I would be pretty shocked if he was not.
What will happen? your guess is as good as mine. I know he has the skill set to actually be a great WR. Will he? He has shown us both ends of that spectrum.
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