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OK, so who knows anything about this guy? Cleveland Cavaliers sign former Tennessee guard Scotty Hopson | cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/..._special-reportCLEVELAND, Ohio -- As the Cavaliers continue their surge toward the playoffs, the team has signed former Tennessee guard Scotty Hopson to a two-year contract, acting general manager David Griffin announced Monday. The deal is believed to be worth close to $2.8 million, including a pro-rated part of the new room exception for this season for teams under the salary cap -- about $1.3 million. The second year of about $1.5 million is not guaranteed. The structure of the contract allows the Cavs a great deal of flexibility this summer as far as free agents or trades are concerned, since Anderson Varejao's $9.8 million contract for next season is only partially guaranteed and Alonzo Gee's $3.2 million contract is not guaranteed. Hopson, who has been on the team's radar for some time, has been playing in Turkey, where he averaged 7.2 points and 2.6 rebounds in 21.6 minutes in 12 Turkish Basketball League games for Anadoulu Efes. He also played in 11 Euroleague games for Anadolu Efes, averaging 15.5 points on 68 percent shooting overall (50 of 73) and 48 percent shooting from 3-point range (15 of 31). His shooting could prove valuable as swingman C.J. Miles continues to recover from a badly sprained left ankle. The 6-7, 204-pound Hopson played in three 2013 NBA Summer League games for the Miami Heat and averaged 11.3 points, 2.7 rebounds and 2.0 assists in 22.0 minutes per game, including 22 points, two assists and three steals in 26 minutes against the Brooklyn Nets on July 8. Hopson, who went undrafted in the 2011 NBA Draft after averaging 12.7 points and 3.1 rebounds in 103 career games at Tennessee, spent the 2011-12 season with Kolossos Rodou of the Greek League and the 2012-13 season with Hapoel Eilat of the Israeli League.
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Highly touted kid out of high school.
Never quite lived up to the hype at Tennessee.
He was a decent player, but he was the #5 recruit in the country according to Rivals.
Averaged 12.7 per game during his 3 years at UT.
The talent is there, but he's timid.
Don't expect him to actually contribute.
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Well, Kyrie's back ...... and Andy's out, again. Kyrie Irving in, Anderson Varejao out for Cleveland Cavaliers | cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2014/03/kyrie_irving_in_anderson_varej.htmlCLEVELAND, Ohio -- Kyrie Irving is in, Anderson Varejao is out for the Cavaliers. Irving, who has missed eight games with a strained left biceps, has been cleared to resume full-contact practice on Tuesday, although his status for Wednesday's game at Orlando has not been determined, according to the Cavaliers. Varejao, who left Sunday's 90-76 victory over Indiana in the second quarter, has been diagnosed with a right AC joint sprain and is out for the game at Orlando. His status will be updated as appropriate, the team said. Irving suffered his injury in a game against the Clippers in Los Angeles on March 16 when he took a swipe at a ball being held by Blake Griffin. Until that point, he had missed just three games this season with a left knee contusion. He played through a broken nose suffered when he was elbowed by the Timberwolves' Corey Brewer at Minnesota on Nov. 13, wearing a mask to protect the injury. Thanks to a rigorous off-season conditioning program, he was able to stay healthy most of this season until his run-in with Griffin. Last year, he missed 11 games with a fractured left index finger, three with a hyperextended right knee and a total of nine after suffering a sprained left AC joint. He played through a broken bone in his jaw that was protected by a mask. Before last season, he broke his hand when he slapped a padded wall in frustration during a summer-league practice. His rookie season, he missed 13 games with a concussion and a shoulder injury. His one season at Duke was limited to 11 games because of a toe injury. Varejao also has a long list of injuries that cut short his last three seasons. He missed the last 56 games of last season after a quad injury and then a blood clot. A fractured right wrist limited him to 25 games in 2011-12 and a right ankle/foot injury ended his 2010-11 season at 31 games. Before Sunday, Varejao had missed three games this season with a left knee contusion and hyperextension and 12 with a sore back.
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9 million dollar piece of glass..i'd just do about anything to get something for him at this point...he's about worthless.I rather have hawes and someone else than hawes and andy for 11 games a year
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I've come to like Hawes. Probably love the trade even more considering we gave up nothing for him, haha.
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Hawes is easily the most well rounded center we've ever had..he can pass, shoot and take people off the dribble, and has the best 3pt range of any center in the nba. at 7' that's rare..I wish he was a little better on D, but he's scrappy and isn't afraid to get his hand in there or take a charge. He atleast tries, as opposed to most players we've seen.
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I think the best part is that he's a legit 5, that brings something to the table. For years, we've just plugged in power forwards at the center spot, and just sort of hoped they did the job.
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What got into the Cavs tonight, 70 points at halftime?
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Cavs winning, Hawks losing.. Not a bad day.
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Season will be on the line friday. IF they beat Atlanta, they will have a great shot to get in. We have the easiest schedule out of the 3 teams.
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The best part is they are playing this well WITH Kyrie...
I honestly expected them to go back to sucking when he came back..
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I don't see it. The Hawks have to go something like 2-8 and they have the tiebreak over the Cavs.
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Did you see our last 6 games.? 2 road games are atlanta, and the bucks, and the 4 home games are very winnable. If we win out, or even go 36-46, there is a good chance we get in. I think we need to win out. Don't own any tiebreakers.
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There are other teams that are playing as well. Of the three teams the Cavs, obviously, have the worst chance.
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Extremely efficient stats by our starters.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400489989
I don't care about Deng, but I want Hawes back.
Exactly..Hawes needs to be part of the long term core. He's only 25, so he's going to get better, and he does everything pretty well. He's by all accounts a great teammate, and he's already showed ownership in this team by sticking up for his guys. He's making 4million this year, while andy is making 9million, enough said. I trade andy for anything at this point if it means keeping hawes. I agree about deng, he can leave and i don't think we will miss him at all. He's proven he is indeed a system player and quite streaky. I will say dellevedova and mike brown have started to wear me down. The team seems to be listening to mike now, and I've always like MB as a person, he's a standup guy, but thought as a coach he left alot to be desired, but lately I'm seeing growth there, with his rotations and offensive sets. Alot of moving parts and he seems to be putting them in the right places right now. and dellevedova is tenacious, he may make some bonehead plays, but you can't discount his effort on defense and he's been hitting the 3 consistently now..He's been a big part of the streak we are on. Playoffs or not, I think they have built something that will carry into next year. Which is why they need to keep Hawes
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Paying Hawes too much is the type of thing that can kill a team. If Hawes is willing to take a reasonable deal you re-sign him. If not you bid him adieu.
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you double his salary and you're still less than Andy, I'll take that deal..he's worth that. Andy isn't worth near that for as little as he plays. Thats why i said, you move andy if you need to, If it comes down to andy vs hawes, as much as i like young andy, the andy of the last 4 years is a liability. You take Hawes who still has 10 years to play possibly. Decent centers in FA are hard to get. And since you already have him, don't give him a reason to look. You talk about the contract/cap etc...cavs have made alot worse deals than that over the years. I think hawes could be had in the 7-9mil/yr range and I would think he'd be worth that.
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And letting him walk is what exactly?
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And letting him walk is what exactly?
yeah thats my thinking, he fills a huge hole, letting him walk just creates another one..we don't have a legit 5 on the roster. Esp. with his skill set
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And letting him walk is what exactly?
Better than overpaying him. If you want to have a good team Hawes will be the third or fourth best player on the team. You can't overpay those guys. Someone will give Hawes $9 million plus. That is too much for someone who doesn't play defense.
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We only have 32 mil in the books for next year... I think giving Hawes 7-9 mil a year won't kill us...
You're certainly not going to get his production out of the draft, and especially not going to get a FA of his value here...
Philly gave us a gift. I'm not ready to let someone else have it.
The real question is. Are we ready to pay Kyrie 16+ mil a year in a couple seasons...
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disagree. he was the 3rd or 4th best player on Philly. he has to be in the 6th to 8th best player role on a good team.
I do agree that we cannot overpay him. If someone wants to pay huge $$$ for a limited player, then we have to be smart enough to let him go (and hopefully do a sign-n-trade to get more assets).
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I think you're grossly underrating Hawes as a player. He's quick on his feet for a guy his size and can drive as well as shoot. He's also a vocal leader, stands up for guys who've been his teammates for about a month like he's been there for years, has excellent court vision and awareness, and is a skilled and willing passer. He's not the type of guy who's going to take you to the top (and let's face it...very few guys are) but he's the type of player that will help put you over the top down the stretch.
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I think you're grossly underrating Hawes as a player. He's quick on his feet for a guy his size and can drive as well as shoot. He's also a vocal leader, stands up for guys who've been his teammates for about a month like he's been there for years, has excellent court vision and awareness, and is a skilled and willing passer. He's not the type of guy who's going to take you to the top (and let's face it...very few guys are) but he's the type of player that will help put you over the top down the stretch.
With the way the good teams are assembled now, he can definitely be a starter on a contending team. You obviously don't want your entire offense funneled through him, but with the way he can shoot, I think he has a place on this team.
I would have no problem paying him whatever we've been paying Andy.
It's really nice to see this team playing better. I think it started with Waiters elevating his game. He's been more efficient, and it seems like he wanted more of the workload when Irving went down.
I've wondered with the rest about those two playing together (Irving + Waiters) but I fear that even if they get it going, that we will get pushed around too much in a playoff series by a team with bigger, more physical guards. I think you can only run and gun so much in a playoff series before the other team adjusts... Unless you are Golden State v Dallas a few years ago... Golden State got out of there before Dallas could figure it out, lol.
Seems like the beat reporters for the Cavs all think something pretty big may happen right around draft time. They have been leaving little tidbits about the Cavs maybe being in play for a really good player.
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Don't get the beat reports out here. What's in play? Draft-type trade or a potential free-agent signing?
As for Hawes, I'd be fine with 7-9 mil a year like another person said. He's definitely worth that much.
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Don't get the beat reports out here. What's in play? Draft-type trade or a potential free-agent signing?
As for Hawes, I'd be fine with 7-9 mil a year like another person said. He's definitely worth that much.
They haven't dropped any names or anything. Maybe it's just a hunch, but I've seen it from a few different reporters. I think even Windy may have mentioned it too.
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The hopson signing is a non guaranteed like bynum. I think gee is partially guaranteed. Andy us coming off the books also. Plus they have draft picks and young guys like bennett and tristian. Tbats a great combianation to get a max player.
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The hopson signing is a non guaranteed like bynum. I think gee is partially guaranteed. Andy us coming off the books also. Plus they have draft picks and young guys like bennett and tristian. Tbats a great combianation to get a max player.
I think I heard Windy mention that the Hopson signing was 100% towards gearing themselves toward trading for a max guy, and maybe putting yourself back into play for Lebron (I know.)
Have to applaud them for trying, as well as spending extra money. I read that Hopson will make a boatload for the rest of this year because of the structure of the deal. More per game than Lebron.
I'm excited for Friday, we haven't had a "big" Cavs game in a while. I know this 8th spot run in the East is pathetic when you look at it from the outside, but it's fun to see them competing again.
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I think that Gee is completely non guaranteed next year. Andy is partially guaranteed. ($4 million IIRC)
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I got stuck playing with the trade machine for about half an hour...
Most of them involved trading Kyrie...
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Yeah, I just read that article ... I guess the Cavs still hadn't used one of their cap exceptions, so they picked up Hopson for 7 games. Because it becomes an expiring contract, it's something they can use as trade-bait around draft time.
While I don't think they have the cap-room anymore for a max signing, they do have enough in expiring contracts to fit a max contract into some sort of sign-and-trade deal. That would put someone like "you-know-who" back in the picture, as a team would much rather sign-and-trade a guy, than completely lose a guy to free agency. That's what happened when we lost Lebron to Miami. He said he wanted to go to Miami, so rather than get nothing for him ... we agreed to sign-and-trade him to give him the max contract he wanted, yet get some draft pick compensation back from Miami.
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Do we still get one of their future picks?
Because if LeBron leaves, I think Bosh leaves... And I doubt Wade stays by himself...
That could play out nicely...
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Because if LeBron leaves, I think Bosh leaves... And I doubt Wade stays by himself...
That could play out nicely...
How awesome would that be if that whole thing ended abruptly we are just sitting there with a golden ticket, ahha.
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This is from RealGM ... we'd have to hope they stink all the way through 2017:
2015 first round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 1st round pick to Cleveland protected for selections 1-10 in 2015 or 1-10 in 2016 or unprotected in 2017 [Cleveland-Miami, 7/9/2010]
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I'll glady except an 11...
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A guy in the draft that could replace Deng is Aaron Gordon from Arizona. My problem with "tweeners" is on defense. You can mask flaws on offense by drawing up plays. He physically can play SF and can defend all 5 positions. Until his offense grows he'll be like MKG.
He's extremely long and athletic, and more importantly smart on the defensive end, there's really no reason to think he'll struggle as a defender any more than you'd worry about any other prospect. In fact, I'd argue he's one of the best defenders out of the lottery prospects. His offense on the other hand is a different story, as he's pretty raw all around. Lacks a reliable jumper, horrendous FT shooter, doesn't have great touch around the rim, no back to basket game, really just doesn't have a strong skill on offense as a majority of his points this season came off lobs. However, he has great athleticism and has shown to be an intelligent player, thus there's a lot of room for his offensive game to grow.
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Not attack Gordon specifically...
But I'm really tired of these college tweener PFs that aren't big enough to play PF in the NBA, but not athletic enough to play SF either...
Guys like Derrick Williams just have no role in the league... It's sad really..
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I agree with you. It's going to be a growing trend because kids are not developing properly.
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