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I understand development, baseball is far frm easy. The one think that impressed me was game 2 (I think) I saw him go with the pitch - rather than try to pull it. After that, the limited I've seen - he tries to pull everything.
On a different tip, Garko is the real deal hitting wise. Don't know much about his glove - when listening yesterday they said he made a great play to get to a ball that turned into an infield single - none the less, they said it was great. Anyone have more insight on Garko's glove?
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In 2005 during the season Jenks had 6 saves.
Last year (2006) Jenks had 41 saves, big deal. He also went 3-4 with a 4.00 run ERA on a team that was either 2nd or 3rd in runs scored (sound like Mesa?) He let 97 guys in in 69.2 innings. that's horrendous. He's a terrible closer. Did I mention the Sox didn't make the playoffs with him as their closer?
Rodriguez - Angels lost in the postseason in 2005 and didn't make it in 2006. ERA was way too high.
Rivera - that guy had years where he let up less baserunners than innings pitched. the other guys numbers tower over that. Rivera's control was ridiculous in his prime. the others you mentioned - not so much.
Our closers and relief pitchers in general have zero control. that's a huge problem. Last year we were 30th in the Majors in saves and the problems have not changed. Our set-up man and closer have zero control. They are has-beens/never was players.
yes, jenks only had 5 saves in 2006, but didn't you just get done saying all that matters is october?
so basically, according to your logic, nobody in the league can close.
the cavs are going to get swept in the first round? with the first two games being at the q? lolz, ok, i've had enough of this argument.
All that matters is October, however, when they changed and went to him as THE closer in 2006 - they didn't even get to the playoffs. That was my point. As for the Cavs, I've been saying that since halfway through the season. If you can't hit a free throw you aren't going anywhere - it's a shame. Unless a light kicks on, 69% free throw in the playoffs is a one way ticket home.
for one, jenks was the closer in the 2005 playoffs, he had 5 pretty big saves...
and two, the cavs, for the whole season have shot terrible at the line, but have you been watching the past 2 months? they're vastly improved, and so has lebron james...
Jenks was the hot hand. Like I'd like us to do.
I really hope you are right on the Cavs - believe me - I want to be wrong! Living in Pittsburgh I don't get to see a lot of Cavs games (though Pittsburgh has adopted Cavs as their team so I see more than ya think - they play some on Fox Sports Pittsburgh). I trust you because I haven't seen a lot of them the past couple months. If they shoot 80% from the line they can go a round or 2. (Sorry, as long as Z is there playing C there will be no championship)
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z has actually played a lot better lately, what angers me is that they go away from him after the first quarter...
they're a better team with varejao is playing the 5, because they can get out and run, and it usually starts with him...
lebron is shooting 80-85% the last 2 months or so... which is making him attack the basket more, because his confidence is back...
z isn't the guy holding us back from a championship, it's that perimeter threat, someone to make sure lebron isn't doubled or tripled, that's what the pistons do, when it gets late in the game, they make sure lebron has nowhere to go, and they make someone else beat them, mike bibby or chauncey billups (a free agent next year, does dan gilbert go over the salary cap, and pay the luxury tax to get his detroit guy?)
i actually think the cavs will fare well in the playoffs... people have been pumping miami up, but they're as mediocre as it gets, and they will be exploited in the playoffs...
as far as the pistons go, i think we can take them in a 7 game series, no ben wallace? they aren't the team they were last year, and you can argue we are a better team even though we're probably going to end up with the same record as last year (50-32)
the cavs are fine, i've got complete confidence in them going into the playoffs, 2 seed, 5 seed, it doesn't matter, you're going to run into good teams no matter what...
and the bulls ain't quite there yet... they haven't won in new jersey in some 13 games, over 7 years, and considering that they'll be playing chicago in the playoffs, they will probably not rest their starters...
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I called your response, and you still posted it.  People love his power, his walks, and his defense, not just his power. His defense has been poor so far, but if you compare his numbers in warmer weather to cold, its drastic. Also, those numbers are very respectable (and those power and RBI numbers very impressive) for the minor leagues, especially the low minor league numbers, which are very rare at that level.
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I called your response, and you still posted it.
People love his power, his walks, and his defense, not just his power. His defense has been poor so far, but if you compare his numbers in warmer weather to cold, its drastic.
Also, those numbers are very respectable (and those power and RBI numbers very impressive) for the minor leagues, especially the low minor league numbers, which are very rare at that level.
To be a .300 hitter in the majors you need to have some .300 years in the minors. I don't think he has what it takes, I'm least impressed by power. This guy is a .235 hitter with 35 HRs in the majors. That's worthless in my eyes. He's going to leave so many people on base and not put guys in scoring position due to his strikeouts and he's going to be a 20+ error guy per year. He has zero discipline. Just like Branyan - through a breaking ball and feel the breeze.
I heard about his "defense" and made the same assumption you did about it, then I watched him play. Offensively he = Rob Deer.
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I've watched Marte play as well. His defense now is shaky, but it was really impressive in the four games I saw last year at Buffalo, and above average in Cleveland.
I've said Marte will never be a .300 hitter, he'll hit .250-.270 with enough walks to raise his OBP to the .350 range. You don't have to be a .300 hitter to be a good hitter. The comparisons of Marte throughout the minors have been to Mike Schmidt (career .267- .196 first full season) and Eric Chavez (career .271- .247 first full season). If he comes close to either one of those two, Indians fans will be very happy with him at 3B.
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Mike Schmidt is a HOF 3rd Baseman with 10 gold gloves. I'm as close to being Mike Schmidt as Andy Marte is. The scouts need to stop drinking.
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Anyone else concerned on how Hafner's played this year?
I'm not panicking, but he's not nearly as clutch as he was next year, aside from that home run.
He'll probably wake up in May and go on a tear, though.
It's only the second week of the season too........He'll get going trust me....The cold weather is part of the problem too, he was hitting fine in Milwaukee......
Wouldn't suspect cold weather would be a problem for a boy from North Dakota,...(doesn't have much to do with real baseball anyway,...). He just got a case of Cleveland Thome Disease. Start slow, get hot later.
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if there is one thing that the tribe can do, it's develop a hitter...
so, we'll find out what kind of hitter he can turn out to be...
if he's another russell branyan, we'll ship him out and still try and get something for him...
if there is one thing i can see with him, he needs to shorten his swing a little bit, he's taking huge cracks at the ball
i agree that he will never be a guy to hit over .300, but i think at best, he can hit .280 ish, maybe hitting .285 at his peak...
with where he bats, he's not really hurting this team...
this lineup is going to score it's fair share of runs this summer...
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this lineup is going to score it's fair share of runs this summer...
I believe that too, and combined with the way our pitching looks (OK) right now,...WITHOUT Cliff Lee, I feel better about a World Series (or any playoff run) than I do a Super Bowl,...
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i like our pitching thus far...
and yeah, we still haven't seen cliff lee yet, cc seems to be on a mission, and paul byrd looks 10 times better than he did last year, and with sowers, you have to love everything we've gotten from him, he's been great...
i'm not completely sold on this team making a deep run in october until i see how we fare against detroit and minnesota... we've gotta battle with those teams like we did with the white sox
the race for the central should be exciting to the end, there may be 4 teams involved in it come september...
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