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I wonder what kinda punishment will be handed out and to whom?




None. This happens every year.




Then why have a rule about it.. That doesn't make any sense!


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It prohibits the teams from announcing an official agreement and signing until 4pm. There is however no agreement signed by the Agent who will leak it out maybe. Or in this day n age of social media - it can't be stopped from getting out there. As long as the Team doesn't set up a presser and officially announce it.

the key word was "Technically" when ever you here that word it is like the legal mumbo jumbo alternate word to "BUT" in laymen speak.


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It prohibits the teams from announcing an official agreement and signing until 4pm. There is however no agreement signed by the Agent who will leak it out maybe. Or in this day n age of social media - it can't be stopped from getting out there. As long as the Team doesn't set up a presser and officially announce it.

the key word was "Technically" when ever you here that word it is like the legal mumbo jumbo alternate word to "BUT" in laymen speak.




LOL OK,, so tell me why the rule is in place if it doesn't apply to all parties that have knowledge that a deal is done or will be done at 4pm today.. That would include the player and his family, his agent(s), the team etc.

Why have the rule if you can't or won't enforce it.


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Because it's not official until it's made official!



Any reports we get now are considered unofficial until the team actually announces the signing.

A technicality, but that's what I get out of it.


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The #Browns have emerged as the team to beat for Karlos Dansby, per source. #Titans, #Cardinals feel they are out.




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Dansby is a much better fit for this defense than Jackson.

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not enforceable
Also not damaging enough to enforce.

Daman they opened Pandora's box so to say when they allowed them to start negotiating prior to the March 11th 4pm eliminating TAMPERING... letting it out that they did a deal just who got damaged/hurt in the process?


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The #Browns have emerged as the team to beat for Karlos Dansby, per source. #Titans, #Cardinals feel they are out.




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Dansby is a much better fit for this defense than Jackson.




if true and it's a 2year deal (or we can get out in 2 years), then I'm happy about it. Dansby+Moats means that we can upgrade at ILB in the draft, but we don't urgently have to early if it doesn't fall that way (I'm not convinced Moats is that good, but will trust Pettine & hope he's better than Robertson at least from last year).


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not enforceable
Also not damaging enough to enforce.

Daman they opened Pandora's box so to say when they allowed them to start negotiating prior to the March 11th 4pm eliminating TAMPERING... letting it out that they did a deal just who got damaged/hurt in the process?




Oh I get all that Eo.. But to me, anytime you put a rule in place, if it doesn't have teeth, why bother..


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don't know if this has been out there since twitter broke. hearing Dansby to Browns, 4yrs/$24m. $10m year 1, $14m guaranteed.

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Yippee,, Twitter broke LOL

Actually, NFL.com has an article up stating that that's what they think will happen.


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don't know if this has been out there since twitter broke. hearing Dansby to Browns, 4yrs/$24m. $10m year 1, $14m guaranteed.




So, D'Qwell was too old at 30 to make $9.3 million this year, so we pay 32-year-old Dansby $10 million this year.

Makes sense.

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Only $4 million guaranteed after the first year. $6 million less guaranteed than Jackson got. Seems like a pretty good deal.

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Jackson wasn't a fit and was expensive. Frontloading the contract for Dansby makes a ton of sense.

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Jackson wasn't a fit and was expensive. Frontloading the contract for Dansby makes a ton of sense.




I agree. Losing DQ, I did worry some about losing that veteran leadership presence. Dansby is a better player and is also a leader. This is a win for the defense.


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I don't know if Dansby is a better player overall, but he is definitely a better player in this defense.

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Jackson wasn't a fit and was expensive. Frontloading the contract for Dansby makes a ton of sense.




I agree. Losing DQ, I did worry some about losing that veteran leadership presence. Dansby is a better player and is also a leader. This is a win for the defense.




I agree, I like the move, also helps by not forcing them to draft a guy just to fill the damn position. They can still draft if they want depth or someone for the future, but at least we aren't having our hand forced.

I know last year's moves didn't exactly make us a contender, but I like the attitude that they went about it with... It seemed calculated more than just throwing money at everyone in sight... For the record I still think if you can improve other areas of that defense (starting with Dansby and Whitner, allegedly) that Paul Kruger can actually still be a productive player for us.

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Im suprised more people werent on board in getting Dansby from the get. The Browns biggest weak link in last years pass defense was from the ILB position. Dansby is a top rated ILB in coverage. Im excited about this signing and hope it happens. I want to see this deal done today more than anything.

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I want to see this deal done today more than anything.




It's done, we are just waiting for the clock to hit 1PM (or 4PM for you people).

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I don't know if Dansby is a better player overall, but he is definitely a better player in this defense.




I was speaking from the Browns POV, so I don't care what they would be in other defenses


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and yes, I'm just killing time until the starting gun goes off on NFL FA.


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By "you people" I mean "you people" who live where it is cold (although I hear it is cold in places other than the eastern time zone. I just have yet to experience it.)

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By "you people" I mean "you people" who live where it is cold (although I hear it is cold in places other than the eastern time zone. I just have yet to experience it.)




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By "you people" I mean "you people" who live where it is cold (although I hear it is cold in places other than the eastern time zone. I just have yet to experience it.)




hmmm, okay. well, that's not "me people" so carry on


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By "you people" I mean "you people" who live where it is cold (although I hear it is cold in places other than the eastern time zone. I just have yet to experience it.)




You should at least once in life..


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You should at least once in life..




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Quiet before the storm..... 18 minutes to go.

I get the feeling that the internet might swallow itself at 4pm..... or, it'll be really quiet and things will slowly leak out. Whichever.


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When the #Browns reach a deal with Donte Whitner, I’m told it’s expected to be four years for an average of $7M per year.




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It seems like we could have gotten Ward for similar money, no?

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If they're comparable players, but Whitner is better in coverage, and perhaps a better fit for the defense, then it's an upgrade - and even moreso if it's at the same amount of money.


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When the #Browns reach a deal with Donte Whitner, I’m told it’s expected to be four years for an average of $7M per year.




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It seems like we could have gotten Ward for similar money, no?




I thought Ward wanted 8-8.5 mil per year and Byrd wants 9 mil per year.


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I'm good with Whitner wandering back there. Also he's only missed 1 game in 4 years. Dansby is a suitable replacement for Jackson too. So far ok with the moves.


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Good solid need signing. Pretty much what I expected (5-7/season). The years are more than I expected, but it's probably more of a 2year deal with the frontloading, which makes sense.

Now let's all hope he doesn't stop playing hard after having signed his last fat paycheck. That's always a concern with 30+yo players, especially getting their money early in the contract.


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If they're comparable players, but Whitner is better in coverage, and perhaps a better fit for the defense, then it's an upgrade - and even moreso if it's at the same amount of money.




Ward was supposedly asking for a little bit more (in the $8mil/year range).

Not so sure Whitner is better in coverage. I didn't think so watching him and the metrics bear that out as well.

Also, he nearly legally changed his name to Hitner because he loves to give out big hits (NFL offices talked him out of it with all the concussion discussion). So, if people were frustrated with Ward gearing up for a big hit and missing, then those same people should be concerned with Donte.

Of course, he's a local kid and wants to play for our team. That's a plus. He's also still an above average safety and less than 2 years older than TJ. So, while I think he's a downgrade, it's not like we let Ward go (if we are) and ignored the position.


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When the #Browns reach a deal with Donte Whitner, I’m told it’s expected to be four years for an average of $7M per year.




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It seems like we could have gotten Ward for similar money, no?




Maybe TJ and his agent priced themselves too high, but if the money is the same wherever TJ goes, this move is a downgrade IMO.


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