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guys i need help. i wanna start doing some home projects, like yard work and such, and i'll be going to home depot/lowes quite often. plus, my girls are getting older, and my oldest is really into sports and outdoors and such.
so i guess my question is, whats the best pick up? i know i'm bout to(hopefully) unleash a good debate, but which is better? ford, chevy, dodge, toyota, gmc?
i have a bmw, so that should tell you the type of cars i know. i'm clueless, but i know i definitely need(and want) a pickup. quad cab 4WD. thats about it since thats all i know is good with pickups.
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I can't tell you from personal experience, as I've never had a pickup. However, I can tell you the guy my husband crew chiefs for at the racetrack LOVES the Toyota Tundra. But hes using it mostly for towing and that is what his opinion is comes from. I can tell you the Tundra is a niiiiice ride. The Chevy he had beforehand was NOT!
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When I get a truck I'll probably get a tundra
My dad has a ford 250 though and it is really nice!!
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If I were looking at a new pickup, I would look at the new Dodge Ram 1500 diesel. Yep, a diesel 1500. Tows up to 9000 pounds, has 420 ft lbs of torque, and gets and average of 28 MPG HWY. It is also biodiesel capable, which for a committed lefty should be appealing.  LOL (JUst kidding, I think it should be appealing for anyone) I understand that they are available for order now. You can get one in a Quad Cab, 4 door model, 4x4. . http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/ecodiesel/I may be a little biased since I used to sell Dodges. It looks as though the new diesel model in a 4x4 quad cab fully loaded up would be around $40K.
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The answer depends on what you will be doing and whats important to you. Will you be towing anything? Is gas mileage important? How much cargo and passanger room do you need.
I have owned several trucks from diffent mfgs, and can tell you from my experience that Toyota makes the best trucks. Better components and more reliable.
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I'm on my second F150 and I'd recommend them to anyone. They're reliable, look good, have a nice ride, and a roomy comfortable cab. I have nothing bad to say about Chevy, Dodge, or any other pickup, since I've never owned or driven one. I might also add that, unlike Chevy, GMC, and Chrysler, Ford did not accept government bailout dollars, so your tax dollars did not end up in their shareholders' or employees' pockets.
Be prepared for sticker shock if you look at new 4-door, 4WD trucks, and if cash is a concern, think about a newer used vehicle with lower miles - something 2-3 years old with a balance of warranty still in effect. These trucks will run great up to, and well over, 200,000 miles with care; I got 240,000 out of my '92 F150, and just turned over 100,000 on my newer truck. Good luck.
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I'm on my second F150 and I'd recommend them to anyone. They're reliable, look good, have a nice ride, and a roomy comfortable cab. I have nothing bad to say about Chevy, Dodge, or any other pickup, since I've never owned or driven one. I might also add that, unlike Chevy, GMC, and Chrysler, Ford did not accept government bailout dollars, so your tax dollars did not end up in their shareholders' or employees' pockets.
Be prepared for sticker shock if you look at new 4-door, 4WD trucks, and if cash is a concern, think about a newer used vehicle with lower miles - something 2-3 years old with a balance of warranty still in effect. These trucks will run great up to, and well over, 200,000 miles with care; I got 240,000 out of my '92 F150, and just turned over 100,000 on my newer truck. Good luck.
This. F150, and it's not even close, IMO. And the six cylinder ECO-BOOST turbo engine is fantastic. We were getting 19 mpg with our SuperCrew F150 EcoBoost. Great engine.
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I drive a 2002 Nissan Frontier V6 king cab 4x4. Bought it new. It now has 148,000 miles and runs like it did the day I drove it off the lot. It's my second Nissan truck and I have nothing but good things to say. I was initially after a Toyota but they ask another $4-6000 just for their name plate. I feel I got just as good of a truck but a better value.
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guys i need help. i wanna start doing some home projects, like yard work and such, and i'll be going to home depot/lowes quite often. plus, my girls are getting older, and my oldest is really into sports and outdoors and such.
so i guess my question is, whats the best pick up? i know i'm bout to(hopefully) unleash a good debate, but which is better? ford, chevy, dodge, toyota, gmc?
i have a bmw, so that should tell you the type of cars i know. i'm clueless, but i know i definitely need(and want) a pickup. quad cab 4WD. thats about it since thats all i know is good with pickups.
i need help.
The Honda Ridgeline actually has storage under the cargo bed that locks and is as big as a trunk. The 4 wheel drive system is best in class but overall gas mileage is about 17. It's resale value and reliability are great - priced around $32k well equipped.
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I haven't had a pick-up for years, but I used to work construction when I was young. The few things I can offer are this:
1) Don't get a nice new truck to work with because it will just get scratched up doing projects.
2) You can't beat a 3/4 ton ford word truck, period. All the chevy guys really know this the just won't admit it.
I'd look for a good used ford farm truck.
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Pssshhhaw ....... 17 MPG? 19 MPG? The new Dodge Ram 1500 with a diesel gets 28 MPG.  Get that weak stuff out of here. (I have to stay true to the brand I sold for 12 years) I do have to admit that my brother loves his Ford truck though.
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I have a Chevy 2500 diesel with the Allison transmission in it that I use for towing and such and it's been a great truck. However, if all your using it for is to run some errands to Home Depot, throwing some sporting equipment in the bed of the truck or camping it seems to me I would get the truck that offers the most comfortable ride and best fuel economy. Go drive them all and get whichever one feels best to you.
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I would look very close to the Toyota Tundra.
Never owned one but have owned 2 Corolla's and an '85 Toyota Van. All superior vehicles. My first Corolla, a 1980 which I bought in '85 had it's water pump go out the first week I got it. I thought, "Oh boy, here we go!". From then on through the life of that vehicle nothing else ever broke.
Same with the other Corolla and the Van. Never had to fix or replace anything other than expected maintenance, i.e. brake pads, belts, etc.
I'm assuming they still build 'em like they did back then.
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I work for a supplier of automotive panels and would caution anyone to stay away from the Ram because of how prone they are to rusting out quicker. The place- in Warren in the state up north- where they're assembled doesn't wash and re-oil the material when it's stamped (cost savings implemented years back). So when they're running their blower in the winter, they're blowing a bunch of warm humidity and debris into the stacks of steel that are soon to be stamped.
The other assembly plants, including Chrysler's in Sterling Heights, GM, Ford, Honda, etc. have the capacity to wash and re-oil and do it.
Ford is the best when the parts are taken out and inspected. They're more expensive in part because of it, but brand new for a crew cab, it's steep for my budget. I don't want a house-sized payment for a truck, lol. A guy I work with leases one for $700/month!!!
If buying something American (or that has the most American parts in it) is a key principle you try to abide by, Ford has the most American made parts in it (like 75%). I don't know how steep the drop-off is after that, but Toyota's are the next most American trucks, well before the Silverado which has like 55% American parts in it.
I will be looking at a truck in a couple years when I pay off my Focus, but I would just go with the hottest deal on a used one. Take someone with you if you don't know as much about cars.
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thanks for the suggestions guys?
Ytown, you really think a diesel is the way to go? they are pricey as hell, but i'm thinking long term so thats a very real possibility?
Ford f-150? what separates it from a chevy silverado?
Mill, yea i heard those ridgelines are crazy underrated.
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I really don't see many rusty Dodge Rams at all around here. (newer styles)
The body is made of 2 sided galvanized steel. I don't know how much that affects things at the stamping plant.
I see a ton of Chevys and Fords rusting away around here, but maybe that is just because there are more of those running around.
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They're pretty much the same truck with different badges. If you have a family member who works/worked for GM, or one of the other auto manufacturers, take the incentives that come with that. Hell, if you drive a GM vehicle that you bought new, I think they have a loyalty program where they throw in an extra $3,000 on your trade.
If you have another vehicle for long drives or just taking the family around, then you don't need a crew cab. Getting a model with just a regular or even extended cab can shave a lot of money off the price.
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Ytown, you really think a diesel is the way to go? they are pricey as hell, but i'm thinking long term so thats a very real possibility?
Ford f-150? what separates it from a chevy silverado?
Mill, yea i heard those ridgelines are crazy underrated.
The price differential on the diesel takes a while to repay typically, especially with diesel ~$1 more per gallon. I love diesels, and own a 2000 Ford Excursion with a 7.3 Powerstroke - it's got a 44 gallon tank and if I run it near empty it is about $175 to fill up (FYI, NEVER let a diesel run out of fuel as bad and expensive things typically happen if you do). I don't drive it a lot - use it for all of my tailgating and towing the Cobra or Mustang to the track/shows in a 24' enclosed trailer. If you aren't towing anything, the price difference is hard to justify IMO.
I'm a Ford guy as far as trucks go and would love to get a newer one but I can't justify it because of my limited usage of the vehicle. People who drive trucks are VERY brand loyal and it is really hard to get an unbiased review. If you are indifferent, I'd go drive them all and pick which one you like the most. I never buy new, for any vehicle, as you can get a 1-2 year old one that still has a great warranty from the manufacturer for a lot less. There is typically more negotiating room on a used vehicle as well.
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The main plus with the Dodge Ecodiesel is that it gets 28 MPG, and is still a very powerful (especially torque) engine.
It's not strictly a heavy duty diesel, it's an everyday driver, that you can tow a lot with .... even with a 1500. I think that the cost/savings offset would depend upon how much the owner drives the truck.
However, the new Chevy is rated at 23 MPG with a V-8 .......and the Ford also gets good gas mileage.
In all honesty, even as biased as most of us are, most pickups today are damned good. It is even more competitive for automakers than the passenger car and sports car side of things.Trucks are big money, so they want to make sure that theirs are good enough to sell a lot.
I finally got rid of my 1992 Dodge Dakota last year. It was becoming harder and harder to find parts, and the underbody was finally stating to go. I loved that truck though, and everything still worked up till the day I dropped it off for cash at the crusher. I figured once it passed drinking age that I was really pushing my luck for a big breakdown.
I think that today's trucks are even better.
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I think the F150 is the best selling truck of the last 36 years and the best selling vehicle of the last 31 years...something like that. Impressive track record.
They're all good and it's definitely personal preference, but I think the F150 is the best all around truck...looks, interior, performance.
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Ahh, the "little diesel". I don't have any experience with those, but as I said I am a huge diesel fan - I test drove an Audi with a TDI in it and really liked it, but it was a little more than I wanted to spend and ended up with the gasoline V8 instead. I'm not sure what the option cost is for it on the Ram, but I know when I bought my Excursion on 2002 the original sticker was in the glove box and the Powerstroke was a $12,000 option if I recall correctly. That is A LOT of fuel to make up the cost difference. As you said, it all depends on how you drive it and what you are looking for.
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I think the F150 is the best selling truck of the last 36 years and the best selling vehicle of the last 31 years...something like that. Impressive track record.
They're all good and it's definitely personal preference, but I think the F150 is the best all around truck...looks, interior, performance.
I lived in the Dayton Ohio area for most of my life. It was definitely a GM town. Yet Ford trucks were much cheaper. I had very good luck with both type of trucks.
I drove both but with different things in mind. When I was younger, I bought used trucks. So with that in mind, I bought used GM trucks. There were tons of used parts available which meant repairs would be cheap.
When I got older, I bought new trucks so I switched to Fords. I couldn't see paying far more for a truck to use in the construction trade. They would get dinged and electrical contacts would get dust so with looking at a new truck warranty it made far more sense for me to get the lowest cost dependable vehicle I could find.
So to me, which truck someone would buy would be based on if you're looking at new or used, available parts in your location (if you're buying used), and what you plan to use the vehicle as it pertains to wear and tear.
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I had too many bad experiences with GM products when I was younger to ever consider buying another one. Dodge and Ford is where I put my money since. Ford always seemed to have the better ride and better creature comforts. Dodge's were simply less expensive but didn't hold resale as well as Ford.
I certainly would look at Toyota if I were in the market today and if I was more into mid-sized I'd give the Honda serious consideration.
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I don't think they were cheaper after the Delphi/GM coupons that seemed to reach out to extended family. That said, I think the best pickup is just being yourself But, seriously, Swish, you should probably talk to someone in taxes before starting your business so you can write off your truck and its depreciation for tax purposes. I have a friend who does that, but I'm not good enough with the tax laws for business vehicles to know what's legal. That is, if you haven't done this already.
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Another vote for the Tundra...Dad's got a 2013 and it is one hell of a nice vehicle.
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"whats the best pick up?"
"You're the only girl I love now... but in ten years, I'll love another girl. She'll call you 'Mommy.' "
...or, maybe not-
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"whats the best pick up?"
"You're the only girl I love now... but in ten years, I'll love another girl. She'll call you 'Mommy.' "
...or, maybe not-
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was thinking this was going to be a pick up lines thread.
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I'm on my 5th F150 now,4 red and now a black one.You just can't beat them.
If you want a Jap truck,get a pink one with pretty little posies on it.That way I'll know which finger to use as I pass by you.
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thanks alot for all the intel guys! i'm leaning toward a diesel for now, but i'm definitely doing more research and taking you guys input seriously. the Tundra really sounds like a great truck, not only from reviews but from you guys as well.
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thanks alot for all the intel guys! i'm leaning toward a diesel for now, but i'm definitely doing more research and taking you guys input seriously. the Tundra really sounds like a great truck, not only from reviews but from you guys as well.
Dude, if you're not going to be logging 30,000 miles a year, and not going to be hauling 5000 lb plus trailers - forget the diesel. It costs you more upfront, and it costs you more at the pump. For what you're looking for, anything with a capability of having a trailer towing ability would suit you just fine.
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OK...this is hard to say without some info. I'll give you my opinion on each issue. You said you wanted a crew cab(4 door), that removes the Ranger and S10 out of the equation.
If you plan on loading light loads a crew cab Chevy Colorado would serve your purpose fine. It's a mid-size truck with 4 doors, and has a solid drive train and decent gas milage.
If you will be hauling medium/large loads(2-3 tons) occasionally then a full-size truck with a small v-8 would be suitable. I would recomend an F-150 especially one of the '04-'08 models(the 5.4L is perhaps the best gas V8 ever created as it has an average lifespan of about 200,000 miles!!!!) I have an '07 F-150 crew cab 4X4 and wouldn't trade it for anything.
If you plan on hauling large loads(over 3 tons) then a Diesel is the way to go. Ford, Chevy, and Dodge all have pretty good diesels. The Chevy Duramax is known for it's speed while Ford's Powerstoke is known for it's torque(pulling power). As much as it pains me to say this(as a huge Ford guy), if I were buying a Diesel, I would buy a Dodge Cummins. It's probably the best deisel motor overall.
I hope that helps. If you have any more questions, please ask, I love helping people with these kind of decisions. Trucks are one of my passions.
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I've had an F150 for almost 10 years, I've hauled, towed, pulled stumps and just about everything.
Lost a drive shaft (fell out in the middle of an intersection), replaced it with a refurbished, bought tires and after this winter I'll be replacing the original battery. It still looks good and runs like a champ.
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I have an 1987 ford 350 king cab with a turbo diesel and an 8ft bed. I love it. it could tear down a house and there isn't much that can go wrong with it in comparison to the trucks on the road today. http://www.oldparkedcars.com/2012/08/1990-ford-f350-custom-crew-cab-dually.htmlI have a set of american racing rims on mine so it looks a lot better than this one Ford all the way for trucks you can pick one of these up for a few grand...
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I think all the new trucks are nice but overpriced. I have a 2006 Nissan Titan and I love it and haven't had any issues. I have the extended/king cab but regret not getting the 4 door. The 2015 Titan has a Cummins diesel option.
I like the seats and interior of Chevy's, but their diesels have had injector issues. I think Dodge wins the battle with the proven Cummins. I wouldn't pay for an EcoBoost especially with the poor fuel mileage, but my friend has one and likes it. I get better highway MPG (20) with my titan. The Tundra is nice but expensive.
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Joined: Sep 2006
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Joined: Sep 2006
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I really don't see many rusty Dodge Rams at all around here. (newer styles)
The body is made of 2 sided galvanized steel. I don't know how much that affects things at the stamping plant.
I see a ton of Chevys and Fords rusting away around here, but maybe that is just because there are more of those running around.
that's because they are already in the scrap yard
Hunter + Dart = This is the way.
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