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I'm not really sure what a player engagement director does ...... but evidently Haslam didn't like the job Shea did as one. Cleveland Browns part ways with player engagement director Aaron Shea | cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/03/cleveland_browns_part_ways_wit_3.htmlCLEVELAND, Ohio -- Aaron Shea, the Browns’ director of player engagement, announced on Twitter he’s been fired. The former Browns tight end had served as the club liaison since 2011. Prior to that, he also had worked three years as a sales associate in suite operations. Shea was believed to be in the final year of his contract. The club confirmed the report late Friday night. “The Browns would like to thank Aaron for his years of service to the team,” a team spokesman wrote. “The organization is going to be moving in another direction with the player-engagement role.” After learning of the news, Browns guard Jason Pinkston tweeted: "Thank you for everything really helped out a lot over the years gonna miss ya boss man." The Browns drafted the tight end in 2000. He caught 97 passes for 851 yards and seven touchdowns in six seasons. Shea spent his final NFL season on the injured list with the San Diego Chargers. Browns nation my 9 lives have run out tonight. They fired me tonight and it has been a good run. Going to miss being around the guys! — Aaron Shea (@AShea36) March 8, 2014
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Cue Tony Rizzo report on Bernie acquiring position with the team.
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 Yet another stupid move
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Not for nothing, but I actually forgot that he was still around. Good guy. Met him once at one of the camp days I visited. Very open and approachable.
But if I'm to be perfectly honest here, what was his job again? I guess I don't understand the title. Anyway, it doesn't sound like a job that would be easy to screw up so I'm a bit confused..
He must have ticked someone off....
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Probably its because he went to Michigan. Or maybe he forgot to kiss Jim Brown's ring.
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Thanks for the hard werk, Aaron. Good luck in whatever is next. He was our player at our local banquet years ago. Very friendly and outgoing. Helped me with a few things at camp and was generous with his time, personally introduced me to a few other "name" veterans, and several players. Stay classy! 
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I found this still dont know what it is.
http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/NFL_Player_Engagement
LIke I said, I met Aaron once and with my brief exposure to him, he would appear to be the perfect guy for this role.
Again, I think he just ticked someone off. Who, I don't know..
Where does this position fall in the org chart.. Under Farmer or Schiener?
I can see it fitting under either one. Given that it's about and for players it could fit under Farmer. But it's also administrative in nature given that it doesn't seem to have much to do with on field performance directly.
If I had to guess (and that's all it is) I'd say administrative which puts it under Schinener.
Man, I gotta learn how to spell that guys name LOL
I see no way that it reports directly to Haslam but that doesn't mean that Shay didn't step on Haslams toes walking down the hallway.
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Haslam the Assassin.
I like it.
Taking out the trash.
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This pretty much sums it up. "The mission of Player Engagement is to optimize and revolutionize the personal and professional growth of football players through continuous guidance and support before, during and beyond their NFL experience. The unique needs of our players are met through five areas of programming: Career Development, Career Transition, Continuing Education, Financial Education and Player Assistance and Counseling Services. NFL Player Engagement prepares and supports players mentally, emotionally and physically for life on the gridiron and after their NFL experience. Utilizing programs such as NFL Prep, NFL Life, and NFL Next, the NFL Player Engagement department assists players in adjusting to life within the NFL, while challenging them to prepare for their post NFL career. " Aaron was very well liked and respected by the players. It's a shame that the Browns let him go 
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So he was a liaison between the team and players I guess,or players they are looking at maybe? Never heard of that position before,but at any rate I recognized his name in the thread title,and I wish him the best.I'm sure it's just that he was in his last year of a contract and they either didn't want to pay more,or have a friend to give the job to,or are just dumping it altogether.I don't know but it seems like they parted on good terms.Shea sounds like a really nice man,and didn't even know he was working for us this whole time...lolol
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I feel that way too. But honestly, there's been very little of any good since our return in '99. We need to change the culture into that of a winning organization.
Now I'm not sure what that takes. But frankly it surely takes something very different than what we've had under the Lerner regime.
I've seen Aaron Shea on TV talking Browns and thought, for the most part, that he held a realistic view of the team and did not seem to be one to kowtow to the organization.
For that I'm sorry to see him go. But beyond those short TV appearances I have no idea what his job was nor his responsibilities within it nor how well he performed.
I'm looking at this the same way I try to view the roster. That is, to not play favorites because of the person or the personality, but rather accept a cut or a signing, expecting either to be because of talent and ability to help the team win.
Apparently someone has decided to do away with the title Shea held or feels they've found him lacking in his duties and/or believes they've found someone else who can do the job better.
For whichever reason Shea is out and I have to accept it. If there's one thing I've learned in my years is that I have to accept the things I cannot change or live with the grumpiness my discontent creates within me. These days I prefer to accept and attempt to understand.
What makes it easier for me to accept it is the knowledge that over 15 years of utter failure demands changes.
Chud out, Banner out, new people in, organizational hierarchy changes... whatever it takes to attempt to move the organization forward. So I don't care if he leaves not one that pissith against a wall, just so the culture changes and he builds a winning organization.
Haslem is the anti-Lerner. Maybe that's the beginning of what it takes.
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I'm sure he did his job. But smart move dumb move, I doubt if the persona and future of this team rides with Shea.
Player engagement I think is possibly an educational position for the players to adjust to financial responsibilities continue learning. Get into the programs offered by the NFL for Media and management positions within the NFL.
I do know that sometimes when somebody has the job for a long time especially in football the fire to excel and push goes out. Not saying that happened to Shea. Just don't think its a very relevant move to our well being. We'll also see who replaces him. Another player who is respected more?
All we can do is say thank you to Shea - glad he stuck with us through the years.
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Under the catagory of Browns front office is...
...Player Support...
.....Training & Medical
.....Equipment
.....Video
.....Player Engagement
.........Aaron Shea Director, Player Engagement
.........James Bell Performance Specialist
.........Russell Maryland Player Engagement Assistant
web pageMaybe Bell or Maryland are going to move up into the director position or the someone in upper management has someone in mind.
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So he was like the high school guidance counselor for the Browns? Wasn't even aware of positions like this.
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Wow!! Maryland is on our staff? Haven't heard his name in a long time.I bet you're right though,they are most likely moving him into that spot.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns...ture?src=mobile
I don't find his being good at the job described a surprise. He seemed perfect for that kind of assignment.
Not sure what the problem was..
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And we just fired the guy?  Either he ticked off somebody high up in the organization ... or Josh Gordon just got picked up by the police again last night. 
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I don`t get to post much anymore, and I might be late to the party, but the front office debacle for the past three month has been bleepin embarrassing.
From Chud, to Banner & Lombardi....
I am calm, I am cool and collected, so I can say without drama that I am starting to not care so much. If that makes me a fairweather, so be it... any guy who`s been a Browns fan for the past 25 years and more deserves to have some slack.
I really wish Randy Lerner hadn't sold the team, at least most of his decisions seemed well-thought out, even if they didn`t bring the results we wanted.
Not saying I`m done with the Browns, but they`re starting to lose me. I'd still be a fan, but I can see myself losing the passion.
And its not a decision I am MAKING, it`s just a feeling that`s happening naturally. This team wears me out, game after game, year after year, embarrassment after embarrassment.
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Firing Aaron Shea will have little to do with the on field performance.
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Thanks for the explanation of what's involved with the job and the link to the article.
It seems with every new regime we see a lot of changes. Some for the good and some not so good. I don't know who they have slotted to take over the position, but I always thought Shea was a stand up guy and it sounds like his position may have been more important than many have thought it was.
I sure wouldn't want to be in Miami's shoes.
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"He has that first-hand knowledge and experience [as an ex-player,]" Ward said. "We trust him. Shea, he does a great job with us. He speaks both sides. He balances himself equally with the [front office] and the players.
"I know everybody on this team loves what he does."
Maybe Haslam and the new FO didn't like how he supported both sides?
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Yeah, I don't think Haslam likes that. My view of Haslam is he is an accidental billionaire ...inheriting the company that daddy built. He's a half wit, short-fused, idiot who could really care less about the Browns. He knows the fans will show up no matter what and if the fans somehow get tired of double digit loss seasons, he'll just sell the team.
Make no mistake...do not cross Haslam....he will simply take out the trash. I think we should call him the Garbage Man.
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My view of Haslam is he is an accidental billionaire ...inheriting the company that daddy built.
Wasn't the company relatively small when Haslam took over? I thought he was the one that built it into the huge company it is today?
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I don`t get to post much anymore, and I might be late to the party, but the front office debacle for the past three month has been bleepin embarrassing.
From Chud, to Banner & Lombardi....
I am calm, I am cool and collected, so I can say without drama that I am starting to not care so much. If that makes me a fairweather, so be it... any guy who`s been a Browns fan for the past 25 years and more deserves to have some slack.
I really wish Randy Lerner hadn't sold the team, at least most of his decisions seemed well-thought out, even if they didn`t bring the results we wanted.
Not saying I`m done with the Browns, but they`re starting to lose me. I'd still be a fan, but I can see myself losing the passion.
And its not a decision I am MAKING, it`s just a feeling that`s happening naturally. This team wears me out, game after game, year after year, embarrassment after embarrassment.
Otherwise, happy Saturday!
I could not put this any better than it is here. I absolutely feel exactly the same way. It's not that I am not a Browns fan anymore, it's more that I just don't care anymore. If they turn things around, great, but realistically, I don't expect it. So there is no way they can disappoint me, since I have such low expectations for them.
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Wasn't the company relatively small when Haslam took over? I thought he was the one that built it into the huge company it is today?
Yea, I was going to post this same thought.
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I don't like using it either.
I must be used to the people who actually say stuff like that.
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welcome back, Lampy!
if it's any consolation, I'm suffering from BFF* too-
*BFF: Browns Fan Fatigue
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I don't like using it either.
I must be used to the people who actually say stuff like that.
That made me laugh my arse off.
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My view of Haslam is he is an accidental billionaire ...inheriting the company that daddy built
that is a common belief but it's not accurate.
Jim Haslam (his father) built a pretty good sized organization over the years. Maybe somewhere 5 billion when Jimmy took over as President and then CEO.
Jimmy Haslam, while still in college, joined the board of Pilot Corp in 1974 taking the seat his mother held until her death that year.
As time passed, he eventually took over the entire corporation as it's CEO. At that time, the company had sales of about 5 billion.
Jimmy Haslam did indeed get hold of a large corporation.. No quesiton about it, but it was he who engineered the split with Marathon and it was he that negotiated the deal to buy Flying J from the Call family.
Under his leadership, the company grew, both naturally and through aquisition of several companies (including Flying J) to over 28 billion dollars.
So while it's true, he took over something that his father was very successful at, he built it into a HUGE company that is virtually unrivaled in the industry.
Regarding the Browns, I don't know if any of the moves that Haslam has made will end up being the right moves down the road. I honestly have no idea. Not one of us know for sure what will happen. We can only argue about it, but we won't know until we know.
This much we all can agree on however.. Everything that has taken place by the former owner (Al and Randy Lerner) and the former GM's, VPs, Coaching staffs, personnel men, draft gurus etc, hasn't produced anything much to be proud of.
we can also add in that the first year of the Haslam regime hasn't exactly been one to be proud of either. In fact, I think it's safe to say that the last year or so under Haslam has been the most tumultuous since 1999.
Don't know who said it, but I remember reading that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result.
Maybe (and its a big maybe at this point) what we needed was a shake up of major proportions.
Maybe the reason Shea is gone is because he didn't like the change in culture which is pretty apparent. (not that he didn't like it, but that it's apparent the Culture is changing)
Maybe he showed displeasure with it and they decided that it's better to cut him out.
Nothing that has been tried so far has actually worked. SO why do we (that includes me at times) get so upset when things change?
Can't tell you guys what to do, but I'm just going to lay back and watch it unfold. Honestly, what else is there to do.
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Regarding the Browns, I don't know if any of the moves that Haslam has made will end up being the right moves down the road. I honestly have no idea. Not one of us know for sure what will happen. We can only argue about it, but we won't know until we know.
... and argue we will!!!!
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Regarding the Browns, I don't know if any of the moves that Haslam has made will end up being the right moves down the road. I honestly have no idea. Not one of us know for sure what will happen. We can only argue about it, but we won't know until we know.
... and argue we will!!!!
Yup and in the end, it will mean nothing.. LOL
Even if you argue a point and that point comes to pass, what does it mean? Not a damn thing
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I never had any faith in Lerner. He just didn't care that much about running the browns. Sure he spent money, but his hires in the front office were a disaster. No owner in their right mind, would've gave Holmgren all that money to work banking hours. He really took Lerner to the cleaners, and that was Randy's own fault for being an absentee owner. I'm skeptical of Haslem, but at least you know he gives a damn. But I think he is strictly money hungry more than anything else. Just hope he gets the results that we're looking for.
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I never had any faith in Lerner. He just didn't care that much about running the browns. Sure he spent money, but his hires in the front office were a disaster.
To me these things combined make no sense. If he didn't care about the Browns, why did he pay out all those contracts, many overlapping to try to find success here?
I agree that he wasn't a good owner, but I don't believe it was due to a lack of effort or not caring. You don't pay HC's and GM's overlapping contracts trying to find the right people if you don't care.
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"He has that first-hand knowledge and experience [as an ex-player,]" Ward said. "We trust him. Shea, he does a great job with us. He speaks both sides. He balances himself equally with the [front office] and the players.
"I know everybody on this team loves what he does."
Maybe Haslam and the new FO didn't like how he supported both sides?
Aaron is moving on with a great attitude, he will be missed by many folks in the organization from players to many front office folks. I wish him, his wife, and his kids nothing but the best. You will be missed in Cleveland bro
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