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With the talk of the top 3 QBs not exactly being "Franchise QBs", and also the real possibility of teams still trading up to grab them in the top 3 picks, I'm wondering if there might be a better option.
While, I'd still be okay with taking any of the top three QBs with our #4 pick, I'm wondering if the better option might be to take someone like Sammy Watkins and give ourselves the best receiver corps in the country. We could then start Hoyer, which isn't a bad option considering that we haven't seen what he's capable of yet ... and it also means we could take one of these "Plan B" QB's later in the draft when they are getting drafted more where they SHOULD be getting drafted, rather than reaching for somebody just because they are a QB. That would give them at least a few months on the bench to learn the system behind Hoyer, and possibly give them a better chance at success.
So what are your opinions of "the others"? I'm most intrigued by Mettenberger. He was considered a potential first round draft pick midway through the season, and then he got hurt. Now he's projected as a third round-ish pick. He's got some of the maturity issues of Manziel, he's a bit of a statue in the pocket, but he's also a prototypical "big" pocket passing QB. For those who want to take a risk on Manziel's size and maturity at #8 ... maybe we could take a safer risk on Mettenberger's mobility and maturity, but two rounds later. His injury doesn't really effect us that much, as he's going to be learning on the job for the first year anyway.
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It is probably a bit unfair, but Mettenberger reminds me too much of Weeden. I want no part of him.
I haven't seen enough of Jimmy-G, but have read a ton of good things about him.
I have broken down Carr a few times and have been left unimpressed with him.
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QBs that I like the best outside the top3 (and I even have my reservations about Johnny and Bortles) are Aaron Murray and Connor Shaw.
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My first thought was that it's quite an assumption to seem to "know" that drafting Watkins would "give ourselves the best receiver corps in the country".
Sure it looks good on paper, but the guy hasn't had a single NFL snap yet. Many players rated highly have not lived up to the bill.
I'm not saying he won't, but saying he will is taking quite a bit for granted IMO
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Big-3 who?
1. Manziel
2. Bridgewater
3. Carr
4. Murray
5. Mettenberger
6. Garoppolo
7. Bortles
8. Fales
9. Shaw
10. Morris
11. McCarron
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1. Manziel
2. Bridgewater
3. Carr
4. Murray
5. Mettenberger
6. Garoppolo
7. Bortles
8. Fales
9. Shaw
10. Morris
11. McCarron
See, you ask other people, and they'd have Manziel and Bortles switched. Which is why I'm kind of hesitant to take one of those two at #4.
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This pretty much sums up my take on all these guys. web page
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If we don't get Bridgewater, I like Garoppolo in the 2nd round or McCarron in the 3rd. Either that (or maybe even WITH that), if Bridgewater is gone at 4, trade back to the high teens or early 20's in the 1st round this year along with somebody's 2015 1st round pick. Then you have ammo to move up for Mariota or Winston next year.
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It looks like we will be picking first or close to first in the 2015 draft so I would not reach for any QB in 2014. Better off taking BPA at every pick and try to trade down.
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I agree with this, though I'd take Bortles at 26 (he won't be around) as well.
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I gotta say that I am very intrigued with Carr. He has the best arm in the draft, and he is a very good athlete (see combine) and impressed the coaches at the senior bowl. I think he gets a little bit of a bad rap due to his brother, BUT I feel it will be to his advantage as he has been around the pro game because of his brother and will have a mentor which is huge for a rook. He didn't play well against USC in the bowl game and did not face big competition in the Mountain West, but DAMN he can sling it. Reminds me of Jeff George , hopefully not the head case. I did watch seven or eight of his games the last 2years and I think he could be special, I just don't know about the brain. Jimmy Garrapolo , gotta say I have not seen him play with the exception of the east/west or senior bowl and he he looked good. Seems to be a wild card. Mettenberger appears to be a Drew Bledsoe clone, but has some character concerns as he was tossed out of I believe Georgia. The injury is a concern, he does have a very good arm and played quite well under Cam Cameron, jury is out, could be a late round steal if he is healthy.
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I think the bad rap due to his brother thing is long gone...
He gets one now because overall he's just not that good...
He'd be a guy I'd take maybe in the 4th round, and let him sit for at least 2 years before I ever considered starting him in the NFL...
He's just not ready...
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I would have no problem if we took Carr at 4 so thats my opinion on him. I see that kind of potential. Very smart, huge arm, good mechanics, good footwork, he has speed and mobility, excellent ball placement with run after catch potential, terrific in screens and quick slants. needs to improve deep ball but no QB in this draft throws a good deepball right now. Physically, he needs a year to bulk up and also time to acclimate to the NFL game. Garoppolo has impressed the hell out of me in the 2 bowl games. I think his upper body mechanics is off the charts and he still has room to improve with better footwork. This guy continues to climb the boards and we could see him going much higher than I predicted of late first  Metlenberger will go early 2nd. He is expected to be throwing before training camp and that is great news for the kid. I think all 3 guys are legit options but you may have to trade up from 26 to get 2 of them. Carr and Garoppollo are fast risers and Metlenberger could be jumping into the first also.
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Murray. I love Aaron Murray.
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He is very intriguing.. where would you take him?
I would strongly consider taking Garropolo in the 2nd and then taking Murray if he's available in the 5th if he's still there, but I don't think he will be.
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talk on Murray's knee isnt good, probably a year and a half more time to heal maybe 2.
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He is very intriguing.. where would you take him?
I would strongly consider taking Garropolo in the 2nd and then taking Murray if he's available in the 5th if he's still there, but I don't think he will be.
I'd take Murray over Garapollo. If that meant the second round, so be it. Murray was IIRC a 4 year starter in the SEC. He's face the heat, Carr is skidish and he played cupcakes. I know Murray has a lot of concerns, injury, arm, size. For me, he played very well in the SEC, he's mobile, he has command of the offense and an average to slightly above average arm.
Grading him out physically, not something I can attest to. I couldn't even tell you what his combine number were or how he threw (if he even threw), but he's a player and since the beginning of this process I couldn't understand why he wasn't getting more love.
I'm always going to have love for QB's who faced the best competition, players who can play at the highest level will always have the best opportunity to succeed in the NFL. Garapollo and Carr don't fit that bill.
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2 more years? that seems excessive. where are you reading this?
if he's really that far out, then he's not getting drafted.
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All this talk of us letting Teddy pass by.. I really hope it's smokescreen...
I love Sammy, but NO WAY do I pass up on the best QB this year for anyone else just to draft someone clearly not as good later so they can "develop"
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Seems the biggest knock on Carr is his panic under pressure.
You've probably seen this but it's a very good indication of Accuracy. Most notably accuracy under pressure. It's way way too low for me. That scares me away.
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IF this draft falls to where a Bridgewater is not available at 4 and we do not like the other 2 in Bortles and Manziel, we MUST go Watkins at 4. Mack is another potential Aaron Curry. Buffalo? Please. Watkins is a WEAPON and putting his caliber out wide with Gordon is a QB's DREAM. We immediately become Cincinnati Part 2 in the AFC North. And I keep Little just for his bad ass blocking ability.
Gordon and Watkins with Hawkins and Cameron? We sign Tate and we're SET with weapons all over and only need a quality GUARD in possibly Round 3. DC's will be losing sleep at night.
IF we do in fact go that route and do not go QB at 4, and land Watkins, I would then identify the CB Pettine likes most for O'Neil's defense and MOVE UP if needed to secure him opposite of Haden. We MUST find another CB with SIZE and press coverage talent because it IS NOT Skrine.
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Gilbert or Fuller? (We need to finalize the Moats deal)
THEN we can look at QB at 35. Garrop?
If we're going to go this route and Schaub becomes available, we better either land him or a Grossman. We CANNOT go into the season with Hoyer, a rookie and Tanny. Way too much inexperience.
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I don't know about that, but that is OK....time to learn and grow.
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This was some of the stuff coming out at the combines on the medical checks, 99% sure it was stated on NFLN. Metlenberger's knee was much better and he should be ready to go this fall and there was uncertainity of Murray being ready next fall.
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Based on what?
From his other posts ... my guess is that it is based on us overpaying for Dansby and Whitner .. we should have just kept DQ and TJ. Apparently we downgraded 
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j/c of course
No matter how bad you expect to play you can't ever expect to come first in the draft. We have been terrible for a decade or so consistently and haven't drafted #1, this meant missing out on a number of premier passers. To say we shouldn't try and draft a QB at #4 because you expect to be lower is asinine. 3 -> 7 all have the same number of wins this upcoming draft.
I'm in the trade to #1 or #2 for Bridgewater camp and I will be surely disappointed come May when we don't do that. I think you fire the salvos at the #1 pick when you are lucky enough to be top 5, especially having a 2nd 1st rounder to do it with. (And when the QBs are better than Geno and EJ)
I'm fairly sure we won't go QB until #26 with Carr or Gararararapolololo. Much to my chagrin, but it is what it is.
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Never really sure of what we will do. Probably more apt to o QB at #4 than #26. But who knows.
Garafallo kid probably would have to be taken #35 not sure if he'll make the 3rd round. Unless we use #35 on somebody else and use two 3rd rounders to move back into the late 2nd and get him???
But any late rounders...6th??? I would hope we spend it on a kid who if he learns, develops and GETS it - what we get would be a Franchise QB not a Fitzgerald who can play n start some games. In lieu of that I hope we take the kid from Virginia Tech. strong arm - fast as heck - needs time and tutoring but if he Wants to become the best and works hard at it...his upside is a Franchise QB not a QB who can get by.
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If Bridgewater is unavailable at 4 then my plan would be Watkins at four.
Then take Garapollo at 26 if they sign Tate.
From what I have seen if you want to make a comparison between Carr and Jimmy G. for my money I take Jimmy G.
JG has got the goods to work with. Carr I have problems with. I do not think that pocket composure is something that can be worked on. To me you are either calm under pressure or you are not.
Bridgewater is my guy but if he is gone I like JG.
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If we want Jimmy G we will take him at #26 because I would not be surprised if he went in the 1st. Even ahead of Manziel and Carr. I wouldn't be surprised if someone traded up ahead of us to get him.
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Carr, no way and thats because Squeelers and ratbirds put pressure on a qb. its their style of play and a scared qb in the pocket is a losing qb. Grap has the arm and very quick release. Put him behind hoyer and another vet qb and we might have something down the road. We need Watkins with gordon and a tate in the backfield with Dion. We have to not waste a pick on any qb that isn't going to have a 1st or 2nd round grade. All these qb's are not even close to Luck or RGlll.
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First off, Luck and RG3 aren't even in the same Category...
You can't compare these guys to guys who were drafted years before. By that logic Every WR should go #1 because they're better than Charles Rodgers...
Secondly, now that I said not to compare them, I'm going to..
I'd put Teddy right up there with RG3, he didn't have the big flashy year RG3 had, but he was consistent throughout his career.
He's a guy I think you can plug in THIS YEAR. You get another WR at 26-2nd round. A guard in the 3rd. And I think he can produce at a HIGH level RIGHT NOW...
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IF teddy available at 4 I take him.
At 26, I don't think that we need to go Wr. This draft is so deep, we can get a comparable guy with the #35 pick (DaVante Adams Fresno St or Cook, possibly Allen Robinson). We can go guard if we really like one of them or a Dennard or Mosley should someone fall.
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RGII isn't even close to Luck... Heck it wasn't that long ago that people were floating the notion that maybe the Redskins should consider Kirk Cousins as a viable starter over RGIII...
So I agree, nobody in this class is a good comparison to Luck.. but I'd stop there. And with that said, we can't sit around and wait for the next Andrew Luck...
We've had 1 double digit win season in the last 15 years, 12 of the 15 years with 6 wins or fewer... The Colts have had 13 double digit win seasons in the last 15, just 2 seasons under 6... and they get the first pick the year Luck comes out. 
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So, who does Bridgewater compare to? RGIII?
Should we extrapolate from this that we'd be better going with Kirk Cousins than Bridgewater?
I'm only partially joking about that.... the point that I'm trying to make is that if none of the [supposed] top guys in this Draft project favorably in comparison to QB's in the upper third of the NFL (top 11 QB's), then why would we spend such a high pick on any of them? Where the heck is the value except that everyone is simply desperate for a QB and some hope that this next one will be The One.
If you want a QB in this draft... do a realistic projection and compare him to guys currently starting. How does he stack up, to them? Would he be in the upper third of the league? Use what you know of how some of these other guys were when they came out... compare him directly to Luck, and RGIII, and Geno, and... everyone.
If he doesn't measure up - ignore the freaking hype machine and say No Thanks. Don't go wasting a pick just because you're conditioned to believe that's where you have to spend one for that position. Do the homework and find a guy later on that can get the job done.
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Teddy's major problem is that he has no IT factor that analysts really love to talk about. He's not as tall or raw as Bortles, doesn't have the scrambling of Manziel or anything like that. What he has is that's he plays very bright and he's does a good enough job as a QB to make you think that he's only doing an average job.
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Should we extrapolate from this that we'd be better going with Kirk Cousins than Bridgewater?
I'm only partially joking about that.... the point that I'm trying to make is that if none of the [supposed] top guys in this Draft project favorably in comparison to QB's in the upper third of the NFL (top 11 QB's), then why would we spend such a high pick on any of them? Where the heck is the value except that everyone is simply desperate for a QB and some hope that this next one will be The One.
If you want a QB in this draft... do a realistic projection and compare him to guys currently starting. How does he stack up, to them? Would he be in the upper third of the league? Use what you know of how some of these other guys were when they came out... compare him directly to Luck, and RGIII, and Geno, and... everyone.
If he doesn't measure up - ignore the freaking hype machine and say No Thanks. Don't go wasting a pick just because you're conditioned to believe that's where you have to spend one for that position. Do the homework and find a guy later on that can get the job done.
I hope the guys making those decisions for the Browns follow that advice.
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I know you didn't bring it up first, but I don't get the RGIII comparison. They aren't similar at all.
RGIII loves to run. His running ability helped him pass the ball in his rookie year because it opened up lanes. He played in a Spread offense in college where he had to make one read. Once he hurt his knee, he had to rely on reading coverages and he proved incredibly deficient at it. He threw a ton of WR screens and was unable to go through his progressions. He took a ton of sacks because he could not decipher the coverages. He proved to be a prima donna who questioned his coaches. His own teammates began to sour on him.
Teddy can run, but chooses to use his mobility to buy time to throw the ball. He is incredibly intelligent at reading defenses and coverages. He played in a Pro Style offense where he was asked to audible at the LOS and go through his progressions post snap. He is outstanding at reading coverages. He is said to be extremely coachable and is brilliant in the film room.
I guess they are both African American and are highly touted QBs. But, that is where it ends.
I would compare Teddy to guys like Rodgers, Brees, Luck, Manning, Brady, Big Ben, and Wilson because they all have one thing in common. They are football smart. These guys come in all shapes and sizes, but their brains set them apart from their peers.
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Well stated. I could not agree with you more. When I started scouting this quarterback class a year ago Bridgewater stood out.
After this college season was over it was clear in my mind that Bridgewater was a better pro prospect coming out of college the Griffin was for the exact reasons you stated.
Now the question is do the Browns feel the same way?
My guess is they will not move up. I also place some credence in the rumors about them looking at Watkins at four and Carr at 26.
At the same time if Bridgewater is there at four I can not see them passing on Bridgewater.
It is my take that the Watkins/Carr scenario is plan B.
I wish I had a read on what they think about Jimmy G.
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He is nothing like RGIII
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I would have no problem if we took Carr at 4 so thats my opinion on him. I see that kind of potential. Very smart, huge arm, good mechanics, good footwork, he has speed and mobility, excellent ball placement with run after catch potential, terrific in screens and quick slants. needs to improve deep ball but no QB in this draft throws a good deepball right now. Physically, he needs a year to bulk up and also time to acclimate to the NFL game.
Garoppolo has impressed the hell out of me in the 2 bowl games. I think his upper body mechanics is off the charts and he still has room to improve with better footwork. This guy continues to climb the boards and we could see him going much higher than I predicted of late first
Metlenberger will go early 2nd. He is expected to be throwing before training camp and that is great news for the kid.
I think all 3 guys are legit options but you may have to trade up from 26 to get 2 of them. Carr and Garoppollo are fast risers and Metlenberger could be jumping into the first also.
I think this draft might just get messy with QB's. I understand a lot of people love Carr's talent. he does have a lot of it. I just don't think he has the mental toughness and courage to play in the NFL. I don't think its something you can coach to a player either so don't know how you would fix it. I would take a shot on him in the third but he would prob be gone by then cause many will only look at his skill and think they can help him over come the fear of the blitz.
My boy Jimmy Garoppolo is second only in my eyes to Teddy. I think they both match what Farmer want's in a QB but that Jimmy is much better built for the NFL IMHO. I watched quite a bit of game footage on him and was loving him long before he started to rise. Jimmy's pump fake alone can destroy defenses. There is a reason teams are flocking to interview him and trying hard to be able to watch him. I think he could end up going in the first round and I still think he is the best QB in this draft.
I like Metlenberger too. He would be a sure fire first rounder if not for his injury. Way to hard to guess where he will go though because of it. He will probably be the steal of this draft.
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