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This guy couldn't cover my grandmother, every time he was in coverage on a back out of the backfield, he was at least 3 steps behind them. I hope we address LB early in the draft.
Like Mack at #4? 
That would be great, that guy has ALL PRO written all over him. 
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I am not saying he is great. I do think he will look better now that we got rid of Ward.
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What makes you think that he was signed to be a starter?
Nothing other than the fact that he was a starter last year.
Did I really have to lay that out for you?
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What makes you think that he was signed to be a starter?
Nothing other than the fact that he was a starter last year.
Did I really have to lay that out for you?
Yes. Because there is the draft coming up in a month and he could have been signed to nothing but depth purposes. It was a one-year, $570k deal with no guaranteed money that they offered and he signed. I'm not too certain that he's even assured of a roster spot.
Now, aside from him starting some games last season beside D'Qwell Jackson, what gives you the thought that he was signed to be a starter? To be sure, I think that he could start (he has before) but I have no reason to believe that is why he was offered the deal that he was.
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I'm not thinking they re-signed him to be a certain starter either...I'm not sure where you may see that I think otherwise.
He was a starter last year...he could be upgraded-upon...he'll look better next to a real ILB.
I think we are basically saying the same things?
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I'm not thinking they re-signed him to be a certain starter either...I'm not sure where you may see that I think otherwise.
Well, you wrote this:
Robertson was re-signed.
I think we will be better when he is depth rather than a starter.
So, I took it as your thinking that he was signed as a starter.
The rest of your statement indicates that you don't think he'll remain a starter, but that the reason he was signed to be a starter.
Thanks for the clarification. I see your point, as of 'right now' he would be a starter. It seems that you think that won't be the case after the draft.
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So, I took it as your thinking that he was signed as a starter Man I know I'm not well loved here but some of you got some issues...lol
The man simply stated starter as he "IS" a returning starter from last season. Is that so hard to understand. I feel like I'm watching Jeopardy and some of you are Alec Trebec and telling the poster he forget the "S" at the end of the word.
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Pretty much...we will be better when he is depth rather than a starter...whenever/however that occurs.
The other inference I was making is that many people pile on regarding his play...yet the other two guys in the middle of our D were allowed to walk while he was re-signed. They weren't even made an offer.
Perhaps the new coach sees something he likes in Robertson. Perhaps Robertson's biggest issue(s) were in part due to the guys beside and behind him? Perhaps he really IS just a younger, depth-guy, who can play special teams?
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He was an ERFA and a lock to be "re-signed", since he never was a real FA. He barely gets over minimum on that deal. It was clear that he'd stay a Brown, so your discussions really are moot
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He was an ERFA and a lock to be "re-signed", since he never was a real FA. He barely gets over minimum on that deal. It was clear that he'd stay a Brown, so your discussions really are moot
Did they re-sign him or not? Or is he just a stray cat that they feed but don't let in the house?
They re-signed him...they wanted him...they did not want DQ or Ward. What does your "re-signed" word mean? Is that different than when a company offers someone an employment contract and he accepts it?
He was never a real FA? Huh? What does ERFA mean then?
Moot? That's funny...it's a message board...it's all moot.
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Pretty much...we will be better when he is depth rather than a starter...whenever/however that occurs.
The other inference I was making is that many people pile on regarding his play...yet the other two guys in the middle of our D were allowed to walk while he was re-signed. They weren't even made an offer.
Perhaps the new coach sees something he likes in Robertson. Perhaps Robertson's biggest issue(s) were in part due to the guys beside and behind him? Perhaps he really IS just a younger, depth-guy, who can play special teams?
I actually think, for the most part, that Robertson was better than D'Qwell Jackson. Jackson was always out of position and he was the captain on the defense.
I find it curious that the team was leading in so many games at the half and then eventually lost the games. Jackson was the leader on that team.
If I were to hazard a guess, the front office sees Robertson more like Dansby as a player. They probably want Dansby teach him some things and if he shows improvement, he might get a longer term deal after the season.
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Google ERFA, I really don't feel like explaining this to you, but only so much: The only way they would not "re-sign" him was if they thought he wasn't worth one of the 90 TC roster spots. Sorry for being an ass about it 
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So...they DID re-sign him and he WAS a free agent. Do you not see the irony in YOU telling other posters that their discussion was "moot" when you came into the discussion to dispute while confirming: That your "re-signing" and my re-signing are - in fact - the exact same thing and; That he really was a Free Agent - just a different type...so he really isn't what he really is. Classic. 
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Why did you chose to make yourself look even more clueless on this? The time it took you to post this, you could have googled what ERFA means and that in fact, he never was a "free" agent.
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So...they DID re-sign him and he WAS a free agent.
Do you not see the irony in YOU telling other posters that their discussion was "moot" when you came into the discussion to dispute while confirming:
That your "re-signing" and my re-signing are - in fact - the exact same thing and;
That he really was a Free Agent - just a different type...so he really isn't what he really is.
Classic.
What? LOL
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An Exclusive-Rights Free Agent is an NFL player who is not under contract, but has only two years of NFL experience. If his former club makes him an offer at the three year veteran minimum salary, then that's it, he has to take it or leave the NFL. These guys have no right to negotiate with other teams. They are "free" only in the sense that they're free to quit.
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j/c DJ and Willie, you guys are cracking me up. We have so much time to waste until the draft so it's all good... let's have fun. Quote:
Willie said: They re-signed him...they wanted him...they did not want DQ or Ward.
I think that your logic is flawed. I think if Ward would have signed for league minimum that we would have "wanted him" too lol which is the point some posters have been making.
You have to factor in the cost of these players. Resigning Robertson doesn't mean anything given how little we will have to pay him... he may end up just being camp fodder eventually getting cut. We didn't have that luxury with DQ or Ward because of how much money we would have to pay to keep them.
So, did we want Ward and DQ? I don't know and neither do you. Did we want them given how much it would cost to get them? No. Only Robertson fits that criteria because he is the only one we signed.
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Django said: Why did you chose to make yourself look even more clueless on this? The time it took you to post this, you could have googled what ERFA means and that in fact, he never was a "free" agent.
Harsh post and completely incorrect to boot. An Exclusive Rights Free Agent is a type of Free Agent.... it's in the name for crying out loud. No Robertson wasn't a free and clear Free Agent but the point still stands... Robertson was a Free Agent, he was an ERFA and Cleveland did choose to resign him. They didn't have to offer him anything if they didn't want to although that wouldn't make much sense given how cheap he would be and is worth at least a camp spot... which is really the point I think you were trying to make but got derailed by semantics.
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Why did you chose to make yourself look even more clueless on this? The time it took you to post this, you could have googled what ERFA means and that in fact, he never was a "free" agent.
Why do they put 'Free Agent' at the end of the acronym?
Clueless?
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An Exclusive-Rights Free Agent is an NFL player who is not under contract, but has only two years of NFL experience. If his former club makes him an offer at the three year veteran minimum salary, then that's it, he has to take it or leave the NFL. These guys have no right to negotiate with other teams. They are "free" only in the sense that they're free to quit.
He's a 'real DJ-defined free agent' if the team does not make him an offer. He's free to sign with any other team if we don't choose to sign him. That means we did something to keep him...so we must want to keep him. No?
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I think that your logic is flawed. I think if Ward would have signed for league minimum that we would have "wanted him" too lol which is the point some posters have been making.
The point I was trying to make is that we did not even offer either guy ANY kind of deal. We just let them walk. We were even willing to 'take one for the team' on releasing DQ when we did. Class move...and for a guy we didn't even attempt to sign. I find those things very telling...I could be wrong...but IMO it says a lot.
We did re-sign the FREE AGENT who played beside and in front of the two guys we let walk. It's a fact...might not mean a thing other than he's cheap and young.
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You have to factor in the cost of these players. Resigning Robertson doesn't mean anything given how little we will have to pay him... he may end up just being camp fodder eventually getting cut. We didn't have that luxury with DQ or Ward because of how much money we would have to pay to keep them.
I think the context of what I have been saying all along dovetails with what you said there.
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So, did we want Ward and DQ? I don't know and neither do you. Did we want them given how much it would cost to get them? No. Only Robertson fits that criteria because he is the only one we signed.
Again...I think the context of what I have been saying all along dovetails with what you said there.
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DJ and Willie, you guys are cracking me up. We have so much time to waste until the draft so it's all good... let's have fun.
This is way more fun than debating whether Hoyer won 2 or 3 games last year? Right? 
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3... He won the preseason finale! I cant believe everyone forgot about that. Led another MONSTER game winning drive! (actually it was a really well put together drive) 
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For whatever reason, I liked Alex Hall. Good luck to the guy.
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Panthers, for those that didn't follow the link.
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Yet another reason I wish people would post the article instead of just the link. Ya, I'm on a crusade. 
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Yet another reason I wish people would post the article instead of just the link.
Ya, I'm on a crusade.
I try to do that as much as possible. I was in a semi-hurry.
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Patriots sign Alex Hall (yes, that Alex Hall)
I guess Hall was dominating in the CFL. He had 16 sacks last season.
Yeah, I watched him a few times last year...figured he'd get a crack at some team's TC.
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Browns sign former Bengal FB Chris Pressly "The Browns have discovered a new position, or at least a different version of it. According to Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com, the Browns are signing former Bengals fullback Chris Pressley. The 5-foot-11, 260-pounder is a blocker like they didn’t bother with much last year under coach Rob Chudzinski, though that’s changing now. With Ben Tate signed to add some heft to the running game, he now has a capable blocker. Pressley has one career rush attempt and six receptions in 43 games, but that’s not really his job. He missed last season because of a knee injury suffered late in 2012, with the Bengals stashing him on PUP and then waiving him in December."
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I know nothing about the guy, despite living in the area. Is he decent?
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Some snippets and links from stuff I've read. He started in Cinci before a knee injury which he seemed to be able to pass a physical. IMO, anything or anyone is going to be a better well-rounded FB than Oby and especially the former Owen... glad we got him actually. 5'11'' 260 lb'er who should be hungry to prove he can still mow people over... http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...leveland-browns Quote:
Pressley, 27, served as the Cincinnati Bengals' primary fullback during the 2011 and 2012 seasons before suffering a knee injury on Dec. 13, 2012. He began last season on the physically unable to perform list, returned to practice in late November and was waived on Dec. 10.
Pressley gives the Browns a traditional fullback, something they didn't have last season. Expect offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan to ask Pressley to lead the way for Ben Tate this season.
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Pressley has started 20 of the 43 NFL regular-season games in which he has appeared. In 2012, ProFootballFocus.com ranked him 19th out of 25 NFL fullbacks. In 2011, he tied for sixth out of 28 fullbacks listed in the website’s rankings.
Pressley entered the NFL in 2009 as an undrafted free agent with the Bengals. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers signed him off the Bengals’ practice squad in October 2009. The Bengals re-signed him in November 2010 after the Bucs cut him.
Pressley was a teammate of Browns Pro Bowl left tackle Joe Thomas at the University of Wisconsin.
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He did a pretty good job in Cincinnati when he was healthy.
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This is way more fun than debating whether Hoyer won 2 or 3 games last year? Right?
Not really... the Hoyer debate was much more fun lol. It's laughable to suggest a guy won a game that he barely played in and where the team was losing before he left. Funny stuff there... good times.
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You don't know what you're talking about...
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Great. A 5'11", 260 lb skill position with 1 career rushing attmept and 6 receptions. LOL
Can he play guard or center? If not, a wasted roster position.
No wonder we suck rostering players like that. The first bad move IMO. Well.....if he sticks.....I hope not.
Maybe we see somthing and the guy can actually run and catch, even though he hasn't shown much ability in that area.
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