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I think we need a FB, but I hope they don't consider this guy as the guy.
I do too.
If the guy can run and catch as well as block. If he is simply a Vickers, just stick a nimble lineman back there to block.
If you are going to play a fullback and all he is going to do is lead the D to the ballcarrier, I don't want it. That's 80's-90's football.
Modern football is create 6 positions who can touch and 6 to defend. If you are going to take your QB out of the mix for the most part, you don't need some lard assed Waffle House cook lining up as your fullback. Oh...I love Waffle House cooks....some good eats.....I just don't want them playing football on my team.
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I have no idea if Pressly is the answer or an answer at the FB position. I'm not ready to make in rash decision on him. Let him come to camp and earn a spot. Given the abysmal run production of last year I don't see a down side. Exactly how Shanahan might use him is unknown at this point so skewering the player before we know how he fits what Shanahan's offense looks like for the Browns' seems like a reflex.
Even if he turns out to be a Vickers type player that works for me.
Vickers was with the club for 4 seasons. 2006 to 2010. In two of those season ('07 and '09) the Browns running attack was in the top 10. A lot of variables go into those rankings just as a lot of variables go into the rankings when the team was less successful running the ball. Neither the absolute best production nor the most anemic production can be laid exclusively at Vickers' feet.
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He's a guy with experience. But he's coming back from injury.
All I'll say is..
He's not Marecic.
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At least that's fair. I like fair.
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I have no idea if Pressly is the answer or an answer at the FB position. I'm not ready to make in rash decision on him. Let him come to camp and earn a spot. Given the abysmal run production of last year I don't see a down side. Exactly how Shanahan might use him is unknown at this point so skewering the player before we know how he fits what Shanahan's offense looks like for the Browns' seems like a reflex.
Even if he turns out to be a Vickers type player that works for me.
Vickers was with the club for 4 seasons. 2006 to 2010. In two of those season ('07 and '09) the Browns running attack was in the top 10. A lot of variables go into those rankings just as a lot of variables go into the rankings when the team was less successful running the ball. Neither the absolute best production nor the most anemic production can be laid exclusively at Vickers' feet.
Agreed. I know I'm in the minority here, but I would just pose the question of how has our rushing been since we lost our pure FB?
I'm not one for following trends in the NFL. The best teams don't follow trends, they set them. If we go retro to a power running offense, I'm all for whatever works. As an aside, I think the NFL is turning a corner back to that style. Some of the best teams have really started to beef up their running games.
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I think we need a FB, but I hope they don't consider this guy as the guy.
I am still hoping they will hire a really, really old guy who is 5"7 205 pounds as the starting fullback 
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I think we need a FB, but I hope they don't consider this guy as the guy.
I am still hoping they will hire a really, really old guy who is 5"7 205 pounds as the starting fullback
That kind of guy could really take out the knees and ankles of defenders in his way.  
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I think we need a FB, but I hope they don't consider this guy as the guy.
I do too.
If the guy can run and catch as well as block. If he is simply a Vickers, just stick a nimble lineman back there to block.
If you are going to play a fullback and all he is going to do is lead the D to the ballcarrier, I don't want it. That's 80's-90's football.
Modern football is create 6 positions who can touch and 6 to defend. If you are going to take your QB out of the mix for the most part, you don't need some lard assed Waffle House cook lining up as your fullback. Oh...I love Waffle House cooks....some good eats.....I just don't want them playing football on my team.
JMO, but is isn't changing.
What if they draft a guy like Manziel? Would he not cancel out the fullbacks inability to make plays?
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No. I always expect my QB to be able to make plays. Are there any winning clubs who's QB doesn't?
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I meant from the aspect of being a dual threat. Not every QB is one. It adds another dimension that may be lacking from a fullback.
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I don't think our FB has to run the ball and/or catch the ball like an all-star. It'd be nice but he just has to be good enough to keep the defense honest. I don't see us throwing the ball to our FB 5 times in a game unless the defense just doesn't want to cover him... then make them pay!
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n if we use him correctly...
Unlike previous regimes like shurmur was FB = run...we can use the FB to be the protection blocker and the RB can run a route instead of always needing our RB to stay in and protect
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I like a FB who can do 3 things, run block, pass protect, and catch the ball out of the backfield.
I don't even care much if he can run the ball. If he can do these other things, he can be versatile enough that his presence on the field doesn't give the entire play away.
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Shurmur's play calling, even outside the run calls - were pretty predictable. As with Norv given we really had no run game. Sometimes even when we were picking up the yards via the ground game, we'd see 3 and out series of all passing.
I hope Kyle can find ways to keep the run game a threat. Keep the defenses off balance which will help literally every single person on the offense from the line, to the QB all throughout the TE's and WRs. I mean if we run the ball and pickup six yards, then let's not do what Norv would do... let's continue to pound it until the defense finds a way to stop it. I hope Kyle has this in his "play-calling nature". RB's needs touches/carries to find their rhythm. RB's can also wear down a defense mentally and physically so hey, maybe we can/could take our leads to the final seconds of the games instead of blowing them late in games too...
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That's probably a good place for him.
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CJ2K to the Jets http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/chris-johnson-lands-jets/story?id=23351216After a relatively conservative first month of free agency, the New York Jets made one of the splashiest moves of the offseason, reaching agreement with former Tennessee Titans running back Chris Johnson on a two-year contract, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. The team took to Twitter Wednesday afternoon to confirm the signing: Released April 4, Johnson generated little interest on the open market. He visited with only one team -- the Jets -- wrapping that up on Tuesday. The team wanted to get him signed before the start of its offseason program next week. No other team was identified as a serious suitor. For years, Johnson was one of the sport's elite players. He has rushed for at least 1,000 yards in his each of six seasons, including 2,006 yards in 2009. But declining production, coupled with a large salary, led to his ouster. The Jets were reportedly one of four teams that inquired about trading for Johnson, but they didn't want to pick up his salary ($8 million) or surrender a draft pick, not when his release was expected. New York finished sixth in rushing last season and has every running back returning in 2014, yet felt the need to add more speed. Johnson, 28, is one of the fastest backs in the league, although he's coming off a season in which he averaged a career-low 3.9 yards per carry. Johnson's health is a question. He underwent surgery in late January to repair a torn meniscus in his right knee and resumed running only about a month ago. He said after the season that he first hurt his knee in Week 3. He didn't miss any games and became the fifth player in league history with 1,000 rushing yards in each of his first six seasons. Obviously, the Jets feel confident he will regain his explosiveness. There's also a question about Johnson's role. He was a workhorse with Tennessee, averaging 290 carries per season, but he likely will have to accept a reduced role as part of a committee approach. The Jets' other veteran backs are Bilal Powell and Chris Ivory, who rushed for a team-high 833 yards. Ivory's power game should pair nicely with Johnson. Johnson's pass-catching ability is another reason the Jets signed him. He's not a prolific receiver, but he averages 45 receptions per season. With 42 catches last season, he was one shy of the Jets' team leader, wide receiver Jeremy Kerley. Johnson had as many receiving touchdowns as any player on the Jets. Johnson became the Jets' third high-profile addition on offense, joining quarterback Michael Vick and wide receiver Eric Decker. Once known as CJ2K, Johnson brings star power to the position, the first true breakaway back of the Rex Ryan era. Ryan coached Thomas Jones and LaDainian Tomlinson, both accomplished runners, but they weren't home run threats. Some will argue that Johnson no longer has that dimension, as he managed only five runs of at least 20 yards last season. There has been a dramatic decline in all aspects of his game since 2011, when he signed a four-year, $53.5 million contract extension. Shaky offensive-line play, a change in offensive coordinators and the knee injury contributed to Johnson's downturn, but scouts also have noticed that he's not as elusive as he once was. He doesn't force as many missed tackles as he did in his vintage seasons. In 2009, the year he dominated the league, he had 22 runs of at least 20 yards. Their offense got a little more exciting...also, how does Chris Ivory ALWAYS get shuffled under the rug. He does nothing but produce...yet, always passed over
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Their offense got a little more exciting...also, how does Chris Ivory ALWAYS get shuffled under the rug. He does nothing but produce...yet, always passed over
I agree on Ivory. Maybe he is just a bonehead people dislike or goofs off in practice, but when given his chances he puts up numbers.
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Every time I watched him I was impressed.
Dude should be a household name from the plays I've watched.
Hard one to figure out.
I'd work him 'til he dropped.
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Heard on the radio, that between C2K and Vick, the Jets will have a great offense ... for 2010.
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Heard on the radio, that between C2K and Vick, the Jets will have a great offense ... for 2010.
The NY media will spin it and Rex will be calling for the SB !!
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Exactly...
Ivory is great when he gets the work, why did NO feel so easy letting him go and the Jets so easily pass him up for CJ2K?
And NO let him go for a lot of others...Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Khiry Robinson, and gave Ingram, and one other bum work over him...I mean, cmon...only Sproles has had ANY consistency and he did it in more of a scat back Danny Woodhead, I'm not gonna take carries from anyone kinda manner.
I dont get it...and to CapCity.
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I wonder what excuse will be made for Rex this year... 
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If Rex can make a play that looks like a 400m relay race, the Jets will score a lot.
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I think Rex is a good coach.
Even though we got all the early breaks, his guys showed much more mental toughness and intestinal fortitude than our guys did in last year's game and they ended up kicking our butts.
His guys played w/pride.
Our guys quit.
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I think Rex is a good coach.
Even though we got all the early breaks, his guys showed much more mental toughness and intestinal fortitude than our guys did in last year's game and they ended up kicking our butts.
His guys played w/pride.
Our guys quit.
that is very true... I still dislike him though  , purely personal, I am not big on media bravado
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I don't like him, either.
I do have to say that he earned my respect this past season because his team never quit down the stretch even though they weren't playing for anything but pride. That is a sign of a good coach.
It's also the reason why I don't think firing Chud was such a bad decision.
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Gino was coming into his own...he had them playing hard...his job btw was on the line. He's a players coach and they did save his job. Ours was a players coach but he only had 8 months with the team. What I have seen is Rex taking over a TOUGH team that Mangini built and take them to the AFC championship game his first two years...then year 3 when a new coaches team is to evolve...its been all down hill since then. Yeah that game at home they played hard. He's not a bad coach at all. Just very teflon is all I'm saying...every year there has been an excuse for him and that is unusual for the NY Media.
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I don't like him, either.
I do have to say that he earned my respect this past season because his team never quit down the stretch even though they weren't playing for anything but pride. That is a sign of a good coach.
It's also the reason why I don't think firing Chud was such a bad decision.
Having a hard time disagreeing with any of this. I hated the way we folded, even when things were going well (like having leads).
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Nope. Still in ATL. Where Brian got his last job.
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it really is amazing that Robiskie continues to get opportunities. He is probably in my top 3 least favorite high draft pick of the new era ... behind Weeden and Veikune
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Pick Analysis: The most polished receiver in the draft falls to the Browns at No. 36. The former Buckeye is an exceptional route-runner with outstanding hands and ball skills. Though he isn't a classic deep threat, Robiskie is a big-play threat capable of being a productive No. 2 receiver in the Browns' offense. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/brian-robiskie?id=80682
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Pick Analysis: The most polished receiver in the draft falls to the Browns at No. 36. The former Buckeye is an exceptional route-runner with outstanding hands and ball skills. Though he isn't a classic deep threat, Robiskie is a big-play threat capable of being a productive No. 2 receiver in the Browns' offense.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/brian-robiskie?id=80682
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We need to draft that guy!!!
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