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How about a bet, peen?
Five hundred dollars?
I say Teddy makes it in two years. You say he busts w/in two years.
I trust you to honor the bet.
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Five hundred dollars?
I say Teddy makes it in two years. You say he busts w/in two years.
I trust you to honor the bet.
What do you say?
makes an NFL throw? the Pro Bowl? a start?
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Grossi has us passing on Bridgewater at 26 for Ryan Shazier. As a buckeye fan.....that's a disaster.
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=17&post_id=30391
Normally I agree with Grossi on "The state of the Browns" but his draft stuff is horrible.
Completely agree...Shazier is a finesse backer doesn't really fit well in a rugged tough Defense...not to mention I do believe Bridgewater is going to be a good pro...maybe never elite but will do well...and we have been looking for a good QB since 1999
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I say Teddy makes it in two years. You say he busts w/in two years.
I trust you to honor the bet.
What do you say?
LOL....I never said the guy was going to bust. You are the one putting those words in my mouth.
Sorry, you can try to find some other sucker to take that bet.
All I am saying is I find it troubling the guy staged this grand production where everybody but him showed up.
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Wow, with an unimpressive Pro day and scoring a 20 on the wonderlic test; I bet he falls like a lead balloon in the draft.
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Wow, with an unimpressive Pro day and scoring a 20 on the wonderlic test; I bet he falls like a lead balloon in the draft.
20? Is that considered low? How does it stack up to those that have succeeded in the league at QB?
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Just did a little digging.. Johnny Manziel scored a 32 on the test.. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-d...ll-on-wonderlicthe boy hits ll the right buttons..
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Bridgewater struggling in private workouts Posted by Michael David Smith on April 12, 2014, 6:51 AM EDT Former Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater disappointed the NFL scouts, coaches and executives in attendance with a shaky performance at his Pro Day workout. Fortunately for Bridgewater, there are lots of private workouts between Pro Day and the draft, giving him lots of opportunities to change NFL perceptions of him. Unfortunately for Bridgewater, those private workouts haven’t gone any better than his Pro Day. According to Chris Mortensen of ESPN, Bridgewater’s workouts for NFL teams have been very shaky. The general sense seems to be that Bridgewater is sliding on draft boards. However, all it takes is one team to love Bridgewater, and he’ll still be a high first-round pick. And it’s easy to see why a team would love Bridgewater: He was an excellent player at Louisville. Anyone would rather have a player who excels on the field but struggles in workouts than a player who struggles on the field but excels in workouts. web page
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Bad private workouts still cannot erase everything the kid has done on the field and in action. Heck, maybe those Mock Draft where they have us taking him at 26 are/could be true.
Man holy smokes, can you imagine a Watkins at #4 and then a Bridgewater at 26? That's be a stellar first round IMO.
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He's tanking on purpose so the Browns can take him at 4 LOL
Not sure whats up with the kid. Hope he brings it back around.
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Many people questioned Timid. They didn't even have a playbook at Kentucky. The guy couldn't read a coverage to save his life and was unable to go through progressions.
We passed on QBs because we drafted Timid. We then passed on Ben and Rodgers. Many had Rodgers as the number one overall pick. Those moves are significant. Instead, we took two receivers.
We realized we made a mistake and took Frye. We later took Colt. We keep passing on top QBs and then draft 3rd round guys and expect them to be great. When that didn't work, we reached for Weeden.
I say we finally suck it up and take a qb at the top of the draft who can play, rather than be the guy who can be the Milk Mustache guy like Timid was.
Vers posted this in the receiver thread. I thought it was worth a look here. I made bold an interesting piece, and I'm sure it was discussed already. It is worth noting Bridgewater experiencing similar.
I'm thinking what Vers stated. How for years we got screwed picking the wrong guy. Maybe this year Browns have everything fall into place. They draft their intended guy at 4 and Teddy falls into their lap at 26. We see played out by other teams all the time.
If not Teddy, maybe it is some other QB everyone passes on and we get. This draft is loaded with QB talent. Mind you they are not Luck, but there are guys here with the right coaching and patience can be starters and quality backups.
I know this FO/coaches are doing a lot more research on QB's then was done in the past. It is no big secrete Browns need someone. You know they are covering tracks not letting others know who they are targeting. You know Farmer/Pettine are doing well holding their cards close. Media has NO clue and their are pissed. They bad mouth every move Browns make!
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Bad private workouts still cannot erase everything the kid has done on the field and in action.
I said the same when he stunk up his pro day, but I have to admit that its worrisome when reading that he also was "shaky" in private workouts. I'm wondering now if he's got an undisclosed injury, or a bad case of the yips under the scrutiny of pro personnel people. Neither of those fills me with confidence about taking him early. I just don't know what to think anymore.
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From what I've been reading and hearing (the so-called experts), it sounds like Bridgewater is now considered the 4th best QB after Bortles, Manziel, and Carr. Its hard to believe that 4 QB's would go in the top 10 picks, but the possibility certainly exists when you look at the teams picking - Houston, Jax, Cleveland, Oakland, Minnesota. I now think the Browns go BPA at 4 and 26, and then look QB at 35 (Garoppolo) or the 3rd (McCarron, Murray, Mettenberger).
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I feel as though the only individual work out that matters is the one with us. If it's reported that he stinks that up (or has it happened already) then I'd say it doesn't matter, he'll be out of the running at 4 or 26 and maybe altogether
I sure hope this kid gets it together.. I mean, first he doesn't work at the Combine, then he stinks up his pro day, then we find out his wonderlic is 20 and now we hear he's blowing his individual workouts. (that may just be in the eyes of the media so don't believe everything you read)
That's starting to add up.. LIke I said, I hope he has a better showing....
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Is Teddy injured? Vers and I hit on this a week or two ago. You simply don't (certainly shouldn't) put up good tape and then seemingly fall apart without a reason. What is going on here?
Edit: Sorry Dave; just read your post...
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I'm just curious if he's stinking it up with or without the glove.
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Ian Rapoport has said that up until today that we are the only team that has worked out Bridgewater privately. Quote:
Quietly, #Browns have worked out most, if not all, top QB prospects. Until today, for instance they were Teddy Bridgewater’s only workout
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So if we were the only team that has worked him out does that mean that the report that he has looked bad is from us?
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Quietly, #Browns have worked out most, if not all, top QB prospects. Until today, for instance they were Teddy Bridgewater’s only workout
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So if we were the only team that has worked him out does that mean that the report that he has looked bad is from us?
It must be from the teams below 15 wanting to draft him. 
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I would say it's just mud against a wall at this point. How did he stink up multiple private workouts when he's only worked out with us?
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Probably just the Browns trying to make him fall to 26.
you had a good run Hank.
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Bad private workouts still cannot erase everything the kid has done on the field and in action. Heck, maybe those Mock Draft where they have us taking him at 26 are/could be true.
Man holy smokes, can you imagine a Watkins at #4 and then a Bridgewater at 26? That's be a stellar first round IMO.
I wouldn't take ANY WR at #4, including Watkins. And I wouldn't touch Bridgewater at all. If he's there in the 5th round, I might take a flyer on him because if he's only half as good as you folks seem to think, he'd still be a value pick in the 5th round. I wouldn't even consider him before then.
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I'm just curious if he's stinking it up with or without the glove.
I don't think that it matters.
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Quietly, #Browns have worked out most, if not all, top QB prospects. Until today, for instance they were Teddy Bridgewater’s only workout
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So if we were the only team that has worked him out does that mean that the report that he has looked bad is from us?
If the Browns are the only team that have worked him out and reports are that he has stunk it up, then that might be true. I don't think that the Browns are the only team that has worked him out though.
He worked out today for the Vikings. I don't think that all the teams that are looking at QBs have had him in because some of them may not have had him on their group of prospects at the QB position.
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Probably just the Browns trying to make him fall to 26.
Do you really think that they would write up a story after only one team worked him out privately? I don't think so. He's worked out for more than one team and the general view (and it seems to be more of a consensus than not) is that he has done poorly.
I'm telling you. The kid is a 5th round talent (at best) and I wouldn't take him before then.
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It really seems to me as if Weinke messed him up big time. I saw his pro day and he looked putrid. But his mechanics were way different than the game film that I saw from teddy.
Some players rise post season after being a workout warrior at the combine. Occasionally a player falls dramatically because of post season workouts. Looks like TB is going to be one of them.
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I am just going off of what Rapoport reported. He said that before today we were the only team to work him out.
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I'm just curious if he's stinking it up with or without the glove.
I don't think that it matters.
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Quietly, #Browns have worked out most, if not all, top QB prospects. Until today, for instance they were Teddy Bridgewater’s only workout
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So if we were the only team that has worked him out does that mean that the report that he has looked bad is from us?
Well, if it's true that the only private work out was with us and if it's true that his private workouts aren't going well, then the answer would have to be yes, it was us.
I don't want him to fail,, I'd like to see all these guys do well.. that way, which ever one we do get (assuming we get one) then we may have a winner.
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Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Player Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater's agent told ProFootballTalk his client has only had one private workout, and the assessment they received was "simply amazing and sharp." This contradicts a report from ESPN's Chris Mortensen stating Bridgewater had looked shaky in his private workouts -- which is obviously impossible considering he has only had one. There is blood in the water surrounding Bridgewater, and NFL teams will say anything or leak any information if it means a coveted player will fall to them. Lying season is in full swing. http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football
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Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater's agent told ProFootballTalk his client has only had one private workout, and the assessment they received was "simply amazing and sharp."
This contradicts a report from ESPN's Chris Mortensen stating Bridgewater had looked shaky in his private workouts -- which is obviously impossible considering he has only had one. There is blood in the water surrounding Bridgewater, and NFL teams will say anything or leak any information if it means a coveted player will fall to them. Lying season is in full swing.
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I should have known not to believe any of this.. Sounds like the only truth is his wonderlic..
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So it seems like Rapoport's report is accurate. Prior to today we were the only team to work him out privately.
It is still possible that we are the team that leaked the report that he wasn't doing well.
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I am just going off of what Rapoport reported.
That was your first mistake.
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We were probably the only team that openly held a workout with him. Today, the Vikings became the second. Other teams seeking a QB may not have announced their workouts with him.
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So it seems like Rapoport's report is accurate. Prior to today we were the only team to work him out privately.
It is still possible that we are the team that leaked the report that he wasn't doing well.
I'd put NOTHING past an NFL team.. NOTHING. but, the question is, why are we the only ones that looked at him? I mean, 30 days ago, this kid was "THE GUY"! I mean most all the media types said he was the guy.. The NUMBER 1 QB in this draft..
Now, more and more, we're seeing him dropping. Some say out of the 1st round. I think I saw one mock that had Teddy going in the 4th.. Geez..
And since his Pro day,, what, 2 weeks ago now, he's had one visit and only one team worked him out?
Is it me, or does that sound odd?
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Didn't the patriots bring Bridgewater in for a visit? Could have sworn I read that
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So it seems like Rapoport's report is accurate. Prior to today we were the only team to work him out privately.
It seems that to his knowledge, it is correct. He may, in fact, not be privy to all knowledge.
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It is still possible that we are the team that leaked the report that he wasn't doing well.
If it was leaked information, perhaps. The report was only an article posted at ESPN and written by Mortensen.
I don't think that Mortensen would right a report such as this if the Browns were his only source. Why would the Browns talk to Mortensen if they were the only team that he could have spoken to and gotten his information?
Of course, the follow-up questions to the Browns become, "There was a report by Mortensen at ESPN that Teddy Bridgewater did not perform well in private workouts. At the time of the report, the Browns were the only team that had held a workout with him, so that begs the question, "Where the Browns the source for Mortensen's article? Furthermore, Bridgewater's agent contradicts that and says that the player he represents got a glowing response. It cannot be both, so is Bridgewater's agent lying to help his client or are the Browns the source of Mortensen's article? Has anyone from the Browns spoken to Mortensen?
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So it seems like Rapoport's report is accurate. Prior to today we were the only team to work him out privately.
It is still possible that we are the team that leaked the report that he wasn't doing well.
I'd put NOTHING past an NFL team.. NOTHING. but, the question is, why are we the only ones that looked at him? I mean, 30 days ago, this kid was "THE GUY"! I mean most all the media types said he was the guy.. The NUMBER 1 QB in this draft..
Now, more and more, we're seeing him dropping. Some say out of the 1st round. I think I saw one mock that had Teddy going in the 4th.. Geez..
And since his Pro day,, what, 2 weeks ago now, he's had one visit and only one team worked him out?
Is it me, or does that sound odd?
To me, it sounds about right. Bridgewater isn't rated as highly by any team as the hype has been around him. Period.
The kid simply isn't that good. He never has been. It's been ALL hype and nothing other than that. Anyone that still has him rated highly is simply in denial. They just won't admit that they were wrong.
If I had my guess, he will fall out of the first round. He could fall out of the 2nd round and even fall all the way through the 3rd. The talent level at the QB position will have others in the competition if he falls into subsequent rounds.
Then, you throw in the talent level at other positions. Team needs will override any team's desire to see if they catch lightning in a bottle.
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I think you missed the post where Bridgewater's agent said he has only worked out for one team.
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Didn't the patriots bring Bridgewater in for a visit? Could have sworn I read that
I don't know.. his agent is quoted as saying he's only had one private work out, we know he worked out for the Browns.. What's that say?
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