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• Height6-4
• Weight214 lbs.
• CAREER STATS YRDS 9019 TD 77 INT 15
No love for AJ McCarron on the board?
a lot of people think all the qb in this draft are about the same some have 3 above the rest .I for one do not want a QB at #4 and my feeling is McCarron will be there in the 3rd. why take a qb until than build around him, taken a qb before the 3rd will be a wasted pick. just my thoughts unless one of the top 3 fall pass pick #20 than I might have to take a qb not until than
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Prepare yourself to get beat up LOL
Plenty of folks want us to not only take a QB with the first pick, some actually want us to trade up to get Teddy.
In fact, opinions on the subject run all the way from those that would agree with you to those that might say, do whatever you gotta do to move up to get Teddy.
Somewhere in there is the answer and I don't know what it is.
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Passing on top QBs for WRs has worked out well for us in the past. Drafting 3rd round QBs w/weak arms like Frye and Colt has also been a very sound strategy.
We all know that our record last year was not influenced by our QB play, because it was stellar. We also realize that the QB position is not very important and that we can plug anyone in there as long as we have flashy WRs and a really good RB.
Yep, that's the ticket.
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Prepare yourself to get beat up LOL
Plenty of folks want us to not only take a QB with the first pick, some actually want us to trade up to get Teddy.
In fact, opinions on the subject run all the way from those that would agree with you to those that might say, do whatever you gotta do to move up to get Teddy.
Somewhere in there is the answer and I don't know what it is.
yea I know a beat down is coming 
and teddy might be there at 26 after his pro day 
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Behind Vers I've probably been the second over the top Teddy guy. Nothing will change what I see on tape and that is that if we got the QB I see on tape and he stays healthy he would succeed, especially in this offense.
That said, with everything that's gone on this offseason I don't know that I'd trade up for him anymore. At least not to the extent I did. I went on record saying he was worth 3 1sts. I still want him above all but what has happened this offseason, while not changing how I feel about his talent, has added a certain risk factor to him. There are more question marks now then there were before.
Is he worth the no4 just based off tape to me? Yes. Is he worth salvaging the future and 3 1sts? Not anymore. I'd maybe give a 3rd and 4th to the Rams to swap but no more. I think he and Johnny may be there or at least one thanks to bum Bortles shooting up the board.
On McCarron if we passed on Teddy and Johnny it better be for McCarron. When anyone breaks him down the only thing keep him from being the top available QB is arm strength. He makes good decisions, hes a leader, and he's accurate. I would even consider him in a trade down from 35.
He reminds me of Chad Pennington. If he somehow figures out how to strengthen his velocity he is very Tom Brady like and is really the only candidate for a steal at the QB position in May. If you put Chad Pennington on this team while only sacrificing a 3rd for him and hitting on a few picks this year we'd be a playoff team just like that.
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Passing on top QBs for WRs has worked out well for us in the past. Drafting 3rd round QBs w/weak arms like Frye and Colt has also been a very sound strategy.
We all know that our record last year was not influenced by our QB play, because it was stellar. We also realize that the QB position is not very important and that we can plug anyone in there as long as we have flashy WRs and a really good RB.
Yep, that's the ticket.
couch & weeden in 1st how that work out for us ? 
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Passing on top QBs for WRs has worked out well for us in the past. Drafting 3rd round QBs w/weak arms like Frye and Colt has also been a very sound strategy.
We all know that our record last year was not influenced by our QB play, because it was stellar. We also realize that the QB position is not very important and that we can plug anyone in there as long as we have flashy WRs and a really good RB.
Yep, that's the ticket.
couch & weeden in 1st how that work out for us ?
And Quinn as well.
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We're mostly adults here so a little off color humor should't get me banned... When it comes to Bridgewater and McCarron, I'm like a whore with no shame, I like them both.  I'm not convinced that there is only one way to build the team or to resolve the QB position. If Brigewater isn't available when we pick I'm ok with an explosive WR, man-to-man Corner,plug and play OG and then McCarron in the third. I can even see the FO doing that instead of drafting Bridgewater.
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Lyuokdea does a nice breakdown of a McCarron video (highlights and lowlights from the Sugar Bowl vs Oklahoma) here: https://www.dawgtalkers.net/showflat.php?...rue#Post1119804I've been a McCarron booster, but watching that video, I have to say that he reminds me of Colt McCoy.
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You were the first on this site to bring up Garoppolo and I still think we should take a hard look at this guy.
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Passing on top QBs for WRs has worked out well for us in the past. Drafting 3rd round QBs w/weak arms like Frye and Colt has also been a very sound strategy.
We all know that our record last year was not influenced by our QB play, because it was stellar. We also realize that the QB position is not very important and that we can plug anyone in there as long as we have flashy WRs and a really good RB.
Yep, that's the ticket.
what are you talking about. we've already had this discussion. the browns have only taken ONE WR in the first round since 99. BE in 2005. 3rd overall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_first-round_draft_picks
compared with 3 QB's taken in the first round. weeden, quinn, and couch.
you're making it seem like this is a common theme with our team when it isn't. ever.
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AJ McCarron
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• Height6-4
• Weight214 lbs.
• CAREER STATS YRDS 9019 TD 77 INT 15
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a lot of people think all the qb in this draft are about the same some have 3 above the rest .I for one do not want a QB at #4 and my feeling is McCarron will be there in the 3rd. why take a qb until than build around him, taken a qb before the 3rd will be a wasted pick. just my thoughts unless one of the top 3 fall pass pick #20 than I might have to take a qb not until than
Not really, but he's better than Bridgewater and Manziel.
I don't love any of them, but I think a few of them are worth drafting because they have the ability to become very good QBs in the league.
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And I still don't want the Browns to draft him.
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Passing on top QBs for WRs has worked out well for us in the past. Drafting 3rd round QBs w/weak arms like Frye and Colt has also been a very sound strategy.
We all know that our record last year was not influenced by our QB play, because it was stellar. We also realize that the QB position is not very important and that we can plug anyone in there as long as we have flashy WRs and a really good RB.
Yep, that's the ticket.
couch & weeden in 1st how that work out for us ?
And Quinn as well.
how could I have forgotten Quinn
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What am I talking about? I have explained it several times. I'm not explaining it again for your benefit because you will just ignore it. No problem. Let's draft McCarron and we're set for years. 
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And I still don't want the Browns to draft him.
now that's funny u just took some of the beat down off me thxs 
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When we first started talking about Garoppolo, I figured him for a later round guy who maybe would move up into the 4th round. Now I'm seeing him mentioned in the late first - early 2nd range. If the Browns like him, I think they'll need to use #35 or possibly even #26. He does appear to be a good fit for the WCO.
But enough about Jimmy, this thread's about AJ, who BTW has a stunning girlfriend.
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What am I talking about?
I have explained it several times.
I'm not explaining it again for your benefit because you will just ignore it.
No problem. Let's draft McCarron and we're set for years.
you got me wrong vers. i'm on the bandwagon of doing what we got to do in order to get Teddy.
i don't want 2nd, 3rd tier talent at QB, i want 1st tier, 1st round, elite talent.
what i didn't like was you seeming to spread this idea that the browns always pass up QB's for WR, when that is grossly inaccurate. its only happened once.
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this thread's about AJ, who BTW has a stunning girlfriend.
remember how they keep showing her instead of the game wow
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this thread's about AJ, who BTW has a stunning girlfriend.
remember how they keep showing her instead of the game wow
remember what some of the announcers were saying about her?
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remember how they keep showing her instead of the game wow
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Specifically these are some of the things I like about McCarron. Not be be confused with a criticism of any other quarterbacks.
His size
The level of competition he faced weekly.
Played in a pro-style offense. Comfortable operating under center.
Good decision making with the ball. Not a lot of turnovers.
Displayed ability to read defenses and making adjustments to beat blitzes.
Good short to intermediate thrower, accuracy.
Mobile enough to roll out or avoid the rush, not to be confused with a running QB.
Don't like so much
Adequate arm strength, deep ball accuracy.
Can hold the ball too long.
Very little data on how he responds to pressure given the pass pro he received.
Few times he had to put the team on his back to win he didn't do it. Unknown if he can lead a team back from deficit.
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now that's funny u just took some of the beat down off me thxs
I keep pulling arrows out of my own corpse. Don't worry, I'm well-known around here for my non-conformity.
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Passing on top QBs for WRs has worked out well for us in the past. Drafting 3rd round QBs w/weak arms like Frye and Colt has also been a very sound strategy.
We all know that our record last year was not influenced by our QB play, because it was stellar. We also realize that the QB position is not very important and that we can plug anyone in there as long as we have flashy WRs and a really good RB.
Yep, that's the ticket.
couch & weeden in 1st how that work out for us ?
And Quinn as well.
how could I have forgotten Quinn
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What am I talking about?
I have explained it several times.
I'm not explaining it again for your benefit because you will just ignore it.
No problem. Let's draft McCarron and we're set for years.
He was talking about your mistaken insistence that we keep passing up on QB's in the 1st round to draft WR's. it's only happened once since 1999 and he's right about that. (2005, B Edwards instead of taking Rogers or Campbell , the only other 1st round QB's taken that year) I should point out that 21 teams passed on Rodgers and 22 teams passed on Campbell that year.
I should also point out that Campbell never was great.. Rogers got to sit behind Favre for several years prior to becoming the starter. The Packers were a better team all the way around so I have to ask if he'd have been as good as he turned out to be if we'd have drafted him and thrown him into the fire without receiving threats and an iffy Oline.
I don't know the answer. Nobody does. Just guess work.
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You have the poorest reading comprehension of anyone on the board. You have absolutely no clue as to what I was referring to, so please do not put words into my mouth.
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You have the poorest reading comprehension of anyone on the board. You have absolutely no clue as to what I was referring to, so please do not put words into my mouth.
I didn't put words into your mouth.., you did and you were incorrect.
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what are you talking about. we've already had this discussion. the browns have only taken ONE WR in the first round since 99. BE in 2005. 3rd overall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_first-round_draft_picks
compared with 3 QB's taken in the first round. weeden, quinn, and couch.
you're making it seem like this is a common theme with our team when it isn't. ever.
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What am I talking about?
I have explained it several times.
I'm not explaining it again for your benefit because you will just ignore it.
No problem. Let's draft McCarron and we're set for years.
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what i didn't like was you seeming to spread this idea that the browns always pass up QB's for WR, when that is grossly inaccurate. its only happened once.
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He was talking about your mistaken insistence that we keep passing up on QB's in the 1st round to draft WR's. it's only happened once since 1999 and he's right about that. (2005, B Edwards instead of taking Rogers or Campbell , the only other 1st round QB's taken that year) I should point out that 21 teams passed on Rodgers and 22 teams passed on Campbell that year.
I should also point out that Campbell never was great.. Rogers got to sit behind Favre for several years prior to becoming the starter. The Packers were a better team all the way around so I have to ask if he'd have been as good as he turned out to be if we'd have drafted him and thrown him into the fire without receiving threats and an iffy Oline.
I don't know the answer. Nobody does. Just guess work.
Now, tell me again how I wasn't comprehending your comments?
You repeat this often that we take 1st round WR's over QB's and that is an incorrect statement. we only did it once.
We did however take 3 busts at QB in the first round.
the comprehension problem appears to be yours.
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anyways,
i think AJ McCarron would be a interesting pick up in the 3rd round if we can't land a QB with our 4th.
i'm not much of a QB guru...well next to none, but i seen him play, and he executes the offense well and does whats needed of him. he was surrounded with weapons and excelled.
well, if we draft him, he'll be surrounded by weapons. in theory, if we draft Watkins with the 1st and AJ in the 3rd, he would have 2 pro bowl catches, a 1st round WR, a beast RB, and a good OL for pass blocking.
so really the only thing holding him back would be his talent or the coaches, but probably both. would be interesting.
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I don't understand why you'd say that about this particular situation.. He's right on this one.
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i think AJ McCarron would be a interesting pick up in the 3rd round if we can't land a QB with our 4th.
i'm not much of a QB guru...well next to none, but i seen him play, and he executes the offense well and does whats needed of him. he was surrounded with weapons and excelled.
well, if we draft him, he'll be surrounded by weapons. in theory, if we draft Watkins with the 1st and AJ in the 3rd, he would have 2 pro bowl catches, a 1st round WR, a beast RB, and a good OL for pass blocking.
so really the only thing holding him back would be his talent or the coaches, but probably both. would be interesting.
I agree Swish, McCarron would be a great 3rd rounder and I hope we are looking for a QB 3rd round or later.
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You were the first on this site to bring up Garoppolo and I still think we should take a hard look at this guy.
Yep. I don't follow college football much so don't listen to me, but I just have a hunch Garoppolo might be a really good NFL QB in the coming years........ Unless the Browns pick him up, but-of-course. lol (I'm sorry!)
P.S. Have you noticed the optimism for this coming Browns season? It seems to be really high this year. We are overdue for a decent season again.
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I've been on this too.
Brady was a long shot and AJ is my consideration for a guy who might go late and prove himself big.
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P.S. Have you noticed the optimism for this coming Browns season? It seems to be really high this year. We are overdue for a decent season again.
It seems that way to me every year. What else do we have? Our seasons have been terrible so we set out hopes and sights high based on "What might be" with the draft. It's kind of "our Super bowl" unfortunately.
The draft gives you a few immediate starters at best with some guys to develop and hopefully some depth. But what else can people develop a sense of hope on?
It's a sad reality I see before every draft.
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You have the poorest reading comprehension of anyone on the board. You have absolutely no clue as to what I was referring to, so please do not put words into my mouth.
I didn't put words into your mouth.., you did and you were incorrect.
Here, let me prove it to you.
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what are you talking about. we've already had this discussion. the browns have only taken ONE WR in the first round since 99. BE in 2005. 3rd overall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_first-round_draft_picks
compared with 3 QB's taken in the first round. weeden, quinn, and couch.
you're making it seem like this is a common theme with our team when it isn't. ever.
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What am I talking about?
I have explained it several times.
I'm not explaining it again for your benefit because you will just ignore it.
No problem. Let's draft McCarron and we're set for years.
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what i didn't like was you seeming to spread this idea that the browns always pass up QB's for WR, when that is grossly inaccurate. its only happened once.
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He was talking about your mistaken insistence that we keep passing up on QB's in the 1st round to draft WR's. it's only happened once since 1999 and he's right about that. (2005, B Edwards instead of taking Rogers or Campbell , the only other 1st round QB's taken that year) I should point out that 21 teams passed on Rodgers and 22 teams passed on Campbell that year.
I should also point out that Campbell never was great.. Rogers got to sit behind Favre for several years prior to becoming the starter. The Packers were a better team all the way around so I have to ask if he'd have been as good as he turned out to be if we'd have drafted him and thrown him into the fire without receiving threats and an iffy Oline.
I don't know the answer. Nobody does. Just guess work.
Now, tell me again how I wasn't comprehending your comments?
You repeat this often that we take 1st round WR's over QB's and that is an incorrect statement. we only did it once.
We did however take 3 busts at QB in the first round.
the comprehension problem appears to be yours.
That should put that argument to bed.
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That should put that argument to bed.
Good luck with that.
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That should put that argument to bed.
Good luck with that.
Damn, you beat me to it.
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You have the poorest reading comprehension of anyone on the board. You have absolutely no clue as to what I was referring to, so please do not put words into my mouth.
I didn't put words into your mouth.., you did and you were incorrect.
Here, let me prove it to you.
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Passing on top QBs for WRs has worked out well for us in the past.
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what are you talking about. we've already had this discussion. the browns have only taken ONE WR in the first round since 99. BE in 2005. 3rd overall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_first-round_draft_picks
compared with 3 QB's taken in the first round. weeden, quinn, and couch.
you're making it seem like this is a common theme with our team when it isn't. ever.
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What am I talking about?
I have explained it several times.
I'm not explaining it again for your benefit because you will just ignore it.
No problem. Let's draft McCarron and we're set for years.
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what i didn't like was you seeming to spread this idea that the browns always pass up QB's for WR, when that is grossly inaccurate. its only happened once.
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He was talking about your mistaken insistence that we keep passing up on QB's in the 1st round to draft WR's. it's only happened once since 1999 and he's right about that. (2005, B Edwards instead of taking Rogers or Campbell , the only other 1st round QB's taken that year) I should point out that 21 teams passed on Rodgers and 22 teams passed on Campbell that year.
I should also point out that Campbell never was great.. Rogers got to sit behind Favre for several years prior to becoming the starter. The Packers were a better team all the way around so I have to ask if he'd have been as good as he turned out to be if we'd have drafted him and thrown him into the fire without receiving threats and an iffy Oline.
I don't know the answer. Nobody does. Just guess work.
Now, tell me again how I wasn't comprehending your comments?
You repeat this often that we take 1st round WR's over QB's and that is an incorrect statement. we only did it once.
We did however take 3 busts at QB in the first round.
the comprehension problem appears to be yours.
That should put that argument to bed.
I don't think I could have been any more precise and gentlemanly about it, could I?
So if Vers has an issue with it, then we know where the problem is.
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