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You have the poorest reading comprehension of anyone on the board. You have absolutely no clue as to what I was referring to, so please do not put words into my mouth.
I didn't put words into your mouth.., you did and you were incorrect.
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Passing on top QBs for WRs has worked out well for us in the past.
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what are you talking about. we've already had this discussion. the browns have only taken ONE WR in the first round since 99. BE in 2005. 3rd overall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_first-round_draft_picks
compared with 3 QB's taken in the first round. weeden, quinn, and couch.
you're making it seem like this is a common theme with our team when it isn't. ever.
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What am I talking about?
I have explained it several times.
I'm not explaining it again for your benefit because you will just ignore it.
No problem. Let's draft McCarron and we're set for years.
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what i didn't like was you seeming to spread this idea that the browns always pass up QB's for WR, when that is grossly inaccurate. its only happened once.
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He was talking about your mistaken insistence that we keep passing up on QB's in the 1st round to draft WR's. it's only happened once since 1999 and he's right about that. (2005, B Edwards instead of taking Rogers or Campbell , the only other 1st round QB's taken that year) I should point out that 21 teams passed on Rodgers and 22 teams passed on Campbell that year.
I should also point out that Campbell never was great.. Rogers got to sit behind Favre for several years prior to becoming the starter. The Packers were a better team all the way around so I have to ask if he'd have been as good as he turned out to be if we'd have drafted him and thrown him into the fire without receiving threats and an iffy Oline.
I don't know the answer. Nobody does. Just guess work.
Now, tell me again how I wasn't comprehending your comments?
You repeat this often that we take 1st round WR's over QB's and that is an incorrect statement. we only did it once.
We did however take 3 busts at QB in the first round.
the comprehension problem appears to be yours.
That should put that argument to bed.
I don't think I could have been any more precise and gentlemanly about it, could I?
So if Vers has an issue with it, then we know where the problem is.
You laid it out clear enough that even my 10 year old could see it Daman. There should be no issues, it's pretty black and white.
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You repeat this often that we take 1st round WR's over QB's and that is an incorrect statement. we only did it once.
Find one quote where I said exactly that. You can't, because I NEVER SAID IT.
Look, I know you can't stand me, but do you really think I am stupid? Seriously?
I have continually said that we have spent too many high picks on receivers. You see that word? Receivers. Do you see the too many high picks part? I have also said we have reached on qbs and then panicked when they didn't work out.
You and Swish are completely wrong.
Here..............I will explain it one more time.
We mistakenly drafted Timid first overall. I know for a fact that we chose him because he was white and we wanted a face of the franchise. Remember the milk billboards?
We drafted WR's such as:
1999:Kevin Johnson---very top of round 2
2000: Dennis Northcutt---top of of round 2-----------we also drafted Travis Prentice in round 2 of that draft and the WR Jujan Dawson in round 3.
2001: Quincy Morgan, another WR at the top of round 2.
2002: William Green, RB in the middle of round 1 and the WR Andre Davis in second round.
2004: K2, a TE, but really a WR at number 6 overall.
2005: Leon at number 3 overall.
2006: Travis Wilson early in round 3.
2009: Robo and MoMass in round 2.
2010: Hardesty in round 2.
2011: Greg Little in round 2.
2012: Gordon in the supplemental draft, which cost us a second round pick last year.
You don't think that is a huge investment in skill positions? Seriously?
Now, let's look closer at the QB position.
In addition to what I said about Timid earlier.............we drafted Frye in round 3 in the same year we passed on Big Ben for K2. That didn't work out, so what do we do? We reach for BQ in round 1 of a later draft. Horrific results.
Later, we try another 3rd rounder when we drafted Colt McCoy, the most accurate passer of all.....LOL..........How did that work out? Well, it was so bad we panicked again and drafted Weeden in round one a couple of years later. And how did that work out?
Look, we blew exactly one high QB pick when we drafted Timid. But BQ and Weeden were desperation picks because we mistakenly believed 3rd round guys Frye and Colt would be the guys.
We have a shot at getting a true franchise qb this year. Let's not blow it again. Let's not pretend that a noodle-armed third round qb like McCarron will make us winners.
And just watch................two weeks from now, you two will be making me explain this yet again.
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You laid it out clear enough that even my 10 year old could see it Daman. There should be no issues, it's pretty black and white.
Perhaps you should read my reply. That's black and white. If you don't get it, it's only because you don't want to get it.
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P.S. Have you noticed the optimism for this coming Browns season? It seems to be really high this year. We are overdue for a decent season again.
It seems that way to me every year. What else do we have? Our seasons have been terrible so we set out hopes and sights high based on "What might be" with the draft. It's kind of "our Super bowl" unfortunately.
The draft gives you a few immediate starters at best with some guys to develop and hopefully some depth. But what else can people develop a sense of hope on?
It's a sad reality I see before every draft.
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I guess to some folks, you can put their words right in front of them and all they can do is deflect.. Vers, you've said it several times,,, time for you to shut up, take the beating and go to bed without supper.... Again. 
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Bumping this with my AJ McCaron Review. I watch Auburn and LSU games. Strengths: - He's a little more mobile than he looks. - Smart, senses pressure well, knows when to throw it away. - Arm Strength is adequate, not elite - He's tall and had a ton of wins. Weaknesses - Accuracy issues, high, low - Footwork breaks down, throws off back foot when faced with pressure. - Short arms some throws with pressure - Too quick to check down, goes from read 1 to checkdown too often. - Doesn't throw well on the run at all. - So much talent on Alabama, he checks it down and it;s a first down almost every time. - Doesn't like nor is he used to getting hit. Watch: 0:50 - 1:10, just ew. Also Watch 4:55 - 5:05, ew. http://draftbreakdown.com/video/aj-mccarron-vs-lsu-2013/Notes: Despite playing at Alabama, he spend a lot of time in Shotgun. He is very much a one read QB, he is #1 target -> Checkdown 3:40 - He throws a Brandon Weeden Flip pass. Conclusion: Game Manager, he looks like a 6'6 Brian Hoyer, minus the lightning quick release. He is a prototype QB, size wise but he is mostly a one read QB despite his more pro style offense. His accuracy needs work, he shy's away from contact in the pocket and his arm is average. Maybe he's Tom Brady, but he needs works.It all comes down to what type of person he is. Is he a grinder or is he just average, that will dictate his career path as with most players. His upside is high, but his current state isn't worth a first round pick. He's a 3rd round type guy.
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couch, Weeden, Quinn
Has nothing to do with investing in a QB in the first round. I'd say you have a point if the vast majority of teams making the playoffs didn't get their QB in the first round.
For every Weeden, Quinn there is a Rodgers. For every Jamarcus Russel n Couch there is a Luck, Newton. Actually the first round QBs are around 50/50 in their successes. After the first round the successes drop tremendously.
Its not well we have 3 failures so lets forget about it. Lets evaluate better instead...and keep on investing until we get our Franchise QB.
Also we invested in 8 impact picks at the WR position until we finally got a winner. I didn't hear any lets not invest any more...just lets invest more! but lets not do it for the QB position...smh
If he is the right guy at the right time...4-7 rounds I don't mind picking up McCarron and see him develop. But not as a serious plan on the way to get our Franchise QB. Even if we take a QB at #4 I wouldn't mind picking McCarron up in the 5th round or something. You never know how he develops and you can never have too many good young developing QBs!
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you got me wrong vers. i'm on the bandwagon of doing what we got to do in order to get Teddy.
i don't want 2nd, 3rd tier talent at QB, i want 1st tier, 1st round, elite talent.
what i didn't like was you seeming to spread this idea that the browns always pass up QB's for WR, when that is grossly inaccurate. its only happened once.
Only read part of the thread but I think a lot of people are arguing over the wrong thing.. I don't think there is a single person that believes Teddy is elite that also thinks we should pass on him... Fact is some people are sold on him and some aren't... Vers and some others love him, some don't.
As far as Vers argument about what has worked well in the past.. if we went by that we would have drafted an OT every year for the last 5 years because... for the longest time, that was the only one that worked out well for us. 
And yes, his WR comment just isn't right.. Alex Smith went #1... and yes, I suppose in theory, we passed on Aaron Rodgers for Braylon Edwards, but nobody, NOBODY had Aaron Rodgers as a top 5 talent... which is why 22 other teams passed on him.
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but nobody, NOBODY had Aaron Rodgers as a top 5 talent...
That's a historical fact. Can't make it up. it's right there in black and white and still, it's questioned,... I don't get it.
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That is not quite accurate, DC. There was a huge argument about who should go first in that draft..........Smith or Rodgers.
Will someone who remembers back me up on this? tab, I am sure you remember. You argued for Rodgers and liked both. I liked both of them and thought Smith was better.
It's not a historical fact as Daman is suggesting that no one wanted Rodgers in the top five. I am not calling you out DC, but that simply is not correct.
Daman..........provide one quote where I said "in the first round." I said "early." And you couldn't whip me if you had a gun.
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Although I'm not as strongly committed to Bridgewater as an absolute must. Truthfully I recall there was quite a bit of discussion both on this board and nationally among fans and media about Smith vs. Rogers and who should be no. 1.
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but nobody, NOBODY had Aaron Rodgers as a top 5 talent...
That's a historical fact. Can't make it up. it's right there in black and white and still, it's questioned,... I don't get it.
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ANALYSIS: A physically gifted passer with a great understanding of the position, Rodgers has made himself one of the nation's top quarterback prospects the past two seasons. May not fit every system, but should quickly flourish in the NFL for a timing offense that does not throw the ball down the field with regularity. Offers a good amount of upside and is a coachable player who should continually improve his game.
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ANALYSIS: A physically gifted passer with a great understanding of the position, Rodgers has made himself one of the nation's top quarterback prospects the past two seasons. May not fit every system, but should quickly flourish in the NFL for a timing offense that does not throw the ball down the field with regularity. Offers a good amount of upside and is a coachable player who should continually improve his game.
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ANALYSIS: A physically gifted passer with a great understanding of the position, Rodgers has made himself one of the nation's top quarterback prospects the past two seasons. May not fit every system, but should quickly flourish in the NFL for a timing offense that does not throw the ball down the field with regularity. Offers a good amount of upside and is a coachable player who should continually improve his game.
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Buyer beware: Rodgers is 2 inches shorter than Utah's Alex Smith, the other QB the 49ers are considering, and does not have great mobility.
Why 49ers will draft him: Rodgers already has an understanding of the West Coast offense, and his local roots put him over the top.
Why it won't happen: The 49ers will determine that Smith has the greater upside, or that WR Braylon Edwards is the most talented player available, or they will find a trading partner and move down in the draft.
Quotable: "Rodgers is tough, confident, incredibly poised and, most importantly, very few of his passes hit the ground." Mel Kiper Jr., draft expert.
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And you couldn't whip me if you had a gun.
If a person can shoot a gun, I surely hope you're not buying your own hype here.
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Thank you.
Look, I have no problem w/DC making an honest mistake. I'm just sick of Da-Mans-Hot following me around and taking shots at every opportunity.
"Take my whipping..." Pffftttttttttt.
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Not buying anything, Pit. Sick of his crap. Plain and simple.
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It is what it is and Vers is correct about why Rogers dropped. It wasn't because no one thought he was a good QB prospect. The Niners went with Smith but were strongly considering Rogers. They opted to go with Smith because as I recall Smith was supposedly more coachable. The head coach of the Niners was a bit of a control freak and wanted a QB that would just say "sir yes sir!" and that was Smith.
Let's all get real here... the reason it was such a shock Rogers fell was because the consensus was that Rogers was a really good QB prospect.
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Not buying anything, Pit. Sick of his crap. Plain and simple.
I actually understand why a lot of these guys drop and I think people should learn from those mistakes.
People get blown away by size and arm strength and forget about actually breaking down the fundamentals of a QB. They worry that a QB "may get injured" by his size rather than look and see that QB has no history of injury.
And I get your point about Rogers. I believe some of the factors I just outlined combined with the fact that many teams outside of the top 10 really didn't need a QB were far larger reasons Rogers dropped than people questioning his skills.
I hope people at least in our FO have gotten away from the entire "prototypical reasoning". No draft pick is a 100% sure bet. But if a team doesn't really need a QB, I believe often times they'll take the path that gives them the lesser risk.
To me, when you combine that Rogers lacked that prototypical size and the lack of need for a QB, more teams passed on him for those reasons than actually questioned if he could play QB.
And I know you're tired of it Vers, but often times you're a pretty aggressive poster yourself. You take your shots too.
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i'll make this quick.
under your own logic, we passed up on rodgers for BE, the ONLY time we ever took a WR over a QB.
ok got it, you meant "early picks".
but yet, you haven't ONCE mentioned a QB YOU would've took in the second round over the WR we did draft early. why is that?
which is why i have a problem with your comments. you wanna knock all the early investments of WR, even though all but ONE was second round or later, without mentioning what QB's in the second round you wanted. why? because you are trying to compare first round QB's that fell late to second round WR's, which is flawed in all of the sense.
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I guess to some folks, you can put their words right in front of them and all they can do is deflect..
Vers, you've said it several times,,, time for you to shut up, take the beating and go to bed without supper.... Again.
I NEVER ONCE said first round. He is lying and then puts that other crap up. Please!
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And I get your point about Rogers. I believe some of the factors I just outlined combined with the fact that many teams outside of the top 10 really didn't need a QB were far larger reasons Rogers dropped than people questioning his skills.
That is exactly right.
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Man Swish.................you really don't get what I am saying at all.
No problem. I have laid it out as well as I can for you in the earlier post about when we took certain players.
Let's just say you and I disagree. Okay?
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Man Swish.................you really don't get what I am saying at all.
No problem. I have laid it out as well as I can for you in the earlier post about when we took certain players.
Let's just say you and I disagree. Okay?
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tab, I am sure you remember. You argued for Rodgers and liked both. I liked both of them and thought Smith was better. Vers...yes definitely there was the Debate/discussion about Rodgers or Smith but that was Jan. Feb. mostly. After the combine the Draftnicks all got wind of disinterest by GMs - they got a lot of reports from Mid-Later round GMs stating that Rodgers would drop. A lot of the beginning Mocks had them very close together (Smith n Rodgers) Then after the combine Rodgers dropped out of EVERYONES Top 5.
If you remember once I knew Rodgers was out of the mix and not an option at #3...cause when EVERYONE has him out of the top 10 close to the draft they all heard something.
So to jog your memory of what I'm talking about 2005 was the big debate with me pimping Merriman. I was fighting a lot of BE pimps - I wanted us to start our new 3-4 D (RAC) with a kid we could build around. didn't know he was juicing but he did produce his first few seasons.
So I abandoned Rodgers. In a way both ends of the spectrum was correct. Early on there were only 2 QBs worthy of overall #1 and there were debates. But the closer it got to draft day. Rodgers dropped out of sight...nobody expected that far. But out of the top 10 and definitely not in the top 3.
Hope you remember me pimping Merriman to sort of get the timing of all this. 
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That is not quite accurate, DC. There was a huge argument about who should go first in that draft..........Smith or Rodgers.
Will someone who remembers back me up on this? tab, I am sure you remember. You argued for Rodgers and liked both. I liked both of them and thought Smith was better.
It's not a historical fact as Daman is suggesting that no one wanted Rodgers in the top five. I am not calling you out DC, but that simply is not correct.
Daman..........provide one quote where I said "in the first round." I said "early." And you couldn't whip me if you had a gun.
It's a historical fact that NO TEAM HAD HIM AS A TOP 5 PICK.. BECAUSE NO TEAM TOOK HIM IN THE TOP 5. THAT IS THE HISTORICAL FACT I SPEAK OF. Can't wait to see you spin out of that.
As for me beating you Ha.. wouldn't waste my time with the likes of you.... Oh and it's comments like that that you hate yet you do that to others all the time.
You really need to grow up. It scares the hell out of me that you are a teacher...
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That is not quite accurate, DC. There was a huge argument about who should go first in that draft..........Smith or Rodgers.
Will someone who remembers back me up on this? tab, I am sure you remember. You argued for Rodgers and liked both. I liked both of them and thought Smith was better.
It's not a historical fact as Daman is suggesting that no one wanted Rodgers in the top five. I am not calling you out DC, but that simply is not correct.
Daman..........provide one quote where I said "in the first round." I said "early." And you couldn't whip me if you had a gun.
It's a historical fact that NO TEAM HAD HIM AS A TOP 5 PICK.. BECAUSE NO TEAM TOOK HIM IN THE TOP 5. THAT IS THE HISTORICAL FACT I SPEAK OF. Can't wait to see you spin out of that.
As for me beating you Ha.. wouldn't waste my time with the likes of you.... Oh and it's comments like that that you hate yet you do that to others all the time.
You really need to grow up. It scares the hell out of me that you are a teacher...
You wouldn't waste your time? LOL...........look at how many posts you have dedicated to me in just this thread? Yet another lie.
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I provided several links and quotes that show that somebody, SOMEBODY did indeed have Rodgers as a top five pick. Rodgers' falling was a huge mistake by many GMs.
Oh, nice job of adding yet more insults to your ever-expanding pile. "Grow up..." and "it scares me...." It's amazing what you get away w/on here.
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i think AJ McCarron would be a interesting pick up in the 3rd round if we can't land a QB with our 4th.
i'm not much of a QB guru...well next to none, but i seen him play, and he executes the offense well and does whats needed of him. he was surrounded with weapons and excelled.
well, if we draft him, he'll be surrounded by weapons. in theory, if we draft Watkins with the 1st and AJ in the 3rd, he would have 2 pro bowl catches, a 1st round WR, a beast RB, and a good OL for pass blocking.
so really the only thing holding him back would be his talent or the coaches, but probably both. would be interesting.
Pretty much the scenario I'm looking for ... With maybe Hyde or Scov or McCollough at 26th
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So, we finally know,, it's me you think is a liar, am I the only one, or are there others.
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what this thread about ? oh that right McCarron!
It's been this way for a while.
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I'm friggin' sick of it. Seriously baffled that it is allowed.
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We just want the girlfriend to show up at the games.... binoculars are in hand... Brent is in the booth ready for the call...
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Not a fan, but I hope the Browns take a hard look at him, just like I hope they do with every single QB coming out.
I do find it funny that through the sports talk airwaves, which I know is not representative of all fans, older archaic fans want to draft a tackle at 4, and McCarron later on because they have this ridiculous dream of recreating what Alabama has at the NFL level.
I do think he might be better suited to go to a team that is established at QB, where there are no expectations, and he can pretty much stay off the radar while he develops. If he gets thrown to the wolves, he's in trouble, if you ask me.
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AJ McCarron
I like Aaron Murray more, wouldnt be aposed to drafting AJ as long as we draft him where he should be drafted and to me thats from the 5th round down. I think he might be a good back-up QB in the NFL but he shouldnt be nothing else than that, I hope he was a good long career in the NFL makes alot of money and enjoys life, but he will have to do that as a Back-up QB.
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I like Aaron Murray more, wouldnt be aposed to drafting AJ as long as we draft him where he should be drafted and to me thats from the 5th round down. I think he might be a good back-up QB in the NFL but he shouldnt be nothing else than that, I hope he was a good long career in the NFL makes alot of money and enjoys life, but he will have to do that as a Back-up QB.
Agreed. Aaron Murray has the physical tools that McCarron doesn't. I like Murray's arm a lot more. But even at that, I'd put Murray as a third tier QB with an injury question mark. All depends on when you can get these guys I guess. I'd prefer Murray to McCarron. Wouldn't want either really before the 3rd round. And I'd take Mettenburger over both
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My thing with Murray, who I like, is that he doesn't seem to be clutch late in the game. It sould be that I missed some stuff but when he has a chance at a late game drive to win the game he never seems to come though.
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Agreed. Aaron Murray has the physical tools that McCarron doesn't. I like Murray's arm a lot more. But even at that, I'd put Murray as a third tier QB with an injury question mark. All depends on when you can get these guys I guess. I'd prefer Murray to McCarron. Wouldn't want either really before the 3rd round. And I'd take Mettenburger over both
Sorry but I would put McCarron over Murry. McCarron is taller, bigger hands, and IMO in the short to medium range can zing it... and can also show touch. IMO McCarron also has better pocket presence and throws the ball away. Now true, Murray probably has a better long arm, a weak point of McCarron (although his placement is nice). But at the 2nd tier of QB I am looking for someone to manage the game and not make mistakes... hence why I like McCarron.
As a fan of McCarron (2nd only to Bridgewater IMO.. although that may change  ), for this yrs crop of QB really think McCarron is the top of the 2nd tier. More I re-watch his games, the better I think he is suited to the NFL.
There is no Luck, Manning in this years draft. But the QB position is deep. There are 3-4 QB I wouldnt mind taking (see my post in the QB thread).
BTW I do like Murray as well although I believe both are 2nd tier not third.
I/we have been burned by strong armed QB s in the draft (Quinn.. Weeden). No more I say  Lets draft an intellegent game manager and see what happens 
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McCarons size and pedigree is something I like but everytime I sit down to watch film, I find myself saying "How is Alabama winning this game" with the way McCaron plays. I just watched the A&M game and it's the 3rd quarter, McCaron has missed so many throws, some of which are very easy.
Alabamas offensive line consistently gives him a clean pocket and he will still miss throws, He hasn't seen that much pressure and he does throw off his back foot when he gets pressure up the middle. I've now studied his LSU, Aubrun and his Texas A&M games and while he looks the part, I am very underwhelmed.
His release is slow, he isn't all that mobile, he has average at best arm Strength. I do think that if he can get stronger, improve his arm strength he would be a much, much better prospect. As it stands right now, he doesn't, so yeah the Tom Brady comparisons are accurate, skinny, average arm, had a good team, won a lot of games and will likely get drafted late.
The more I study these "2nd tier" QB's the more I am convinced we absolutely must get one of the top three guys.
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Adam Schefter: Alabama QB AJ McCarron is conducting a private workout today for the Cleveland Browns. ‪#‎CLE‬
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