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After a year of major improvement, does Skrine pop to the next level? Does Bademosi prove he deserves to be the starter? Will it all click for Schwartz from day one as he locks down the right side? Will Kruger show why he got the big payday? Will Sheard join the ranks of the elite, racking up double digit sacks? Will Mingo prove he was worth the 6th pick?
I'm thinking Sheard and Skrine could have monster years on D. Sheard should thrive in this new attacking D under Pettine's tutelage, assuming he'll be cut loose to do what he does best: rush the passer. Skrine should be able to shut down the middle as he continues to improve and moves to a position, (assuming he moves to slot,) more suited to his speed and skill set.
I think we'll see a drop-off in production from Gordon as the ball is spread around more, (the good news being we'll be able the spread the ball around more,) with the addition of Hawkins and #2WR, with Cameron and the return of Benji, and with the added bonus of a viable running game. The upside being overall improvement in the offense in general. I hope to see Schwartz finally able lock down the right side because he finally "gets it" and gets some help on the inside.
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Break-out player of the year... that's a tough one as I have a few players I could throw into that boat.
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... suppose if I had just one player to select, I'd go with Paul Kruger. Many QB pressures/hurries yet everyone (well seemingly most everyone) wants to chuck him into the highly paid but not productive category cause the sack attack #'s are low...
If we can acquire a corner worthy to press Buster for #2 corner, or be a quality #3 corner and another weak side backer that can cover in space better than Roberston - then the entire front seven is going to get more sacks. Too often we provided quick options for QBs to get the ball out before our front could attack/hit home. I think if our coverage, especially short and in the middle, gets plugged up then Paul going to get his sacks and so will the other backers and d-linemen, but I think Paul is due for a great season.
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Mingo. Much like Sheard did when the light came on for him, I think you will see the same from MIngo, as he plays with more control and starts to get the mental aspect of the game. Plus I think that Pettiene's D will fit his skill set better. 
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You don't have to confine it to just one. 
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I'll go with Mingo or Little.
Little has all the athletic talent in the world he just needs to learn how to focus on catching before running, he is also good at high pointing the ball.
Mingo needs to bulk up a bit and will hopefully benefit from playing in Pettines multiple schemes.
These are more I hopes than I think, we need these guys to show up.
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I think Mingo is going to thrive in Pettine's system. Mingo is an attack player and too many times last year, he was asked to do too much.
I also think Ben Tate is going to emerge as a top 5 running back this year. When healthy, Tate is one of the best natural runners in the NFL with a good mix of power and shifty. He's also a pretty good pass catcher and with the amount of weapons on offense, he could be used to deadly success.
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Little has all the athletic talent in the world he just needs to learn how to focus on catching before running, he is also good at high pointing the ball.
I haven't given up on him either. There's so much to love about him, size, YAC, physical play, blocking ability. Just don't get the drops and hope the coaching staff can get him to work through it. May be too late though.
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I think Mingo is going to thrive in Pettine's system. Mingo is an attack player and too many times last year, he was asked to do too much.
I also think Ben Tate is going to emerge as a top 5 running back this year. When healthy, Tate is one of the best natural runners in the NFL with a good mix of power and shifty. He's also a pretty good pass catcher and with the amount of weapons on offense, he could be used to deadly success.
I'm really looking forward to watching Tate play and I'm extremely excited about Shanny's system.
Mingo does need to bulk up and work on his technique... he may be another year away, we'll see.
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I think Mingo is prime for a huge jump. Last year, despite being hurt some of the time and hitting the rookie wall, he still has some really impressive pass rushing skill. Put him with a guy like Pettine who runs such an attacking scheme, I think Mingo is going to live in the backfield.
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Hope you're right. He's fun to watch.
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I REALLY hope it's Hoyer. QB. NFL. What else needs to be said. Then there's Mingo. Just because of where we drafted him & of his potential. But Krueger, Benjamin on offense, McFadden & Gipson would all be nice as well. I want it to be Little, but I'm done trusting him or expecting anything different.
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Ahh I missed the "(s)" in your post and beforehand, it seemed like player wasn't pluralized.
With that being known... I would have to say Skrine, Mingo and Hoyer too.
Mingo should already been bulking up a little and then offseason workouts, he should likely even add a few more lbs so I'm anticipating him (without the health ordeal and etc to stop him) to come in strong when he's called into the game. He's shown some flashes that have even made me say "wow that was sick"... His burst and initial acceleration is insane and the point where he has more power/mass to help move/bully/position people like you see Paul/Jaball do - then wow...
Hoyer, just because I believe the Browns aren't going QB at #4 and Brian will beat out whoever company that comes into camp/practice. If he comes into Kyle's offensive clicking like he did with Norv's offense, AND NOT GET INJURED (knock on wood) - then I think you'll see consistent and even qb play which may not be ELITE or top-3 QB or whatever... I think you "will" see consistent, good play. This will come into the form of making quick decisions when needed and getting the ball out accurately. Let's face it... he (or whoever really) - is coming with a loaded array of threats at their disposal. We're talking about Josh Gordon (freak), Jordan Camerion, Andrew Hawkins and we should likely have an improved run game/scheme with Ben Tate anchoring the RB position. What's pending is a reliable #2 WR, an offensive guard and perhaps right tackle. With all the picks we have on the draft, I think this is where these positions will be addressed. Then on top of mentioned things above and others, he (or whoever) will have a stable front to protect them and keep the run game an aspect for Kyle to use at will.
Buster, b/c he came on in the beginning as the usual "person the QB chose to pick on" target - he evolved into a person that made qb's target other weaknesses in our defense as the season progressed. He showed he has torpedo close-in speed which has helped him make up for a few technique/bad angle mistakes. If he continues to improve where he won't rely on his speed for nothing other than making a big play - then wow. I believe he will do just that too. I got really high hopes for Buster, he's played well and consistently down the long stretch of last season. He made Owens and Roberston become usual exploits.
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He has waited a long time for this opportunity. He will not let it slip past him. He will be ready and the Browns will have the tools in place to help him succeed.
Hoyer is the obvious choice that I completely forgot to mention. I'm excited to see him step in as the starter and run with it. Hopefully, he can stay healthy and stay on the field and continue to grow. I really like what he brings to the table.
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Jabaal Sheard. I think with a defensive guy running things now, that maybe it gets Jabaal on a faster track. We saw what he's capable of doing, now we just want more of it.
Offensive side, maybe Travis Benjamin. Although you could argue he broke out a little bit last year before having his season cut short. I like what he brings. He can return, and while he's not a great WR, I feel like we can still line him up to keep the safeties honest. Too much speed there. He probably won't be an every play WR, because of Hawk already providing the small/fast WR role, but I do think people will take notice next year...
I don't really know of anyone else. I think a lot of guys are what they are, and that's not to say they're bad, but we've already seen them break out... Gordon, Cameron, Haden, Thomas, Mack (maybe), as well as what we have seen already out of the new guys, Dansby, Hawkins, Tate, and Whitner..
I think it's a big year for Greg Little too, but I can't go out on a limb and say he finally breaks out. I have almost given up on him. I guess I'm hoping we draft a WR somewhere to push him even more.
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I guess I'm hoping we draft a WR somewhere to push him even more.
In this draft, I'd say it's practically guaranteed.
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Armonte Bryant. He gave us a few glimpses of why we took a chance on him. I like the way he gets his hands into the passing lanes.
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Caldawg... what is so nice is that we actually have many possible breakout players.
It could be TATE who has waited to be the Go to Guy, Cameron who I think is going to get even better especially with Hoyer, Gordon and Hawkins in the mix...as well as TATE...Play action might just have meaning in the Red Zone.
Gipson made great strides from his rookie season to year 2 will it continue?
Skrine has improved every season and in most seasons you can see the improvement within the season.
Mingo might be an automatic??? Will he be our WILL LB in a 4-3...moving around and blitzing??? or hands down on passing downs?
All defensive players are tough to predict because of the change in the defensive philosophy. Oddly it might be Haden who will explode and become more visible as a Ball Hawk.
I would like to see both Bryants on the DL to break out. Desmond was on his way last season till the heart stuff. Amonty is just sick raw again new system might retard his growth???
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My head and my heart take me in a couple different directions on this one. There are a number of people on this roster that could be the breakout guy. I don't think it's Skrine, as he had has breakout year last year. I love the guy, and I think his ceiling is slot corner with spot-starter ability on the outside, and he realized that potential last year. I also don't think Kruger is the breakout guy, because he showed he's an all around excellent OLB. If he does the same thing he did last year, I'll be happy (hey, FAs are expensive, we need to get over that).
I WANT Hoyer to be the breakout guy, simply because no other position needs a breakout player more than QB. 'Nuff said. I also WANT Little to be the breakout guy. I love this guy, and it, honestly, pains me to see him struggle with drops so much. The guy has the aggressive attitude that I crave for this offense. He has the work ethic/desire, and all the physical talent in the world. I just keep hoping that somehow the gears click together in his head and he becomes at least average catching the ball. Whenever he does get the ball in space, I'll always sit up in my seat, because what he does is usually a thing of beauty (trucking DBs is my favorite). I know it probably won't happen, but I still have hope for him.
My head tells me it's probably going to be Sheard. He's going to take that next step to being elite in Pettine's D. Mingo will take a step forward, but it will be an incremental step, not a breakout step, I think. Gipson is another guy that I think will take a big step this year.
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Assuming you mean someone already on the team, I'll say Mingo. Just a feeling that these guys (pettine) knows how they want to use him and it will make him more productive.
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Edwin Baker... he's going to prove to be a very solid every down back and have close to 900 yards rushing with an average of about 4.2.. and he's going to have about 50 receptions for another 450 yards..
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Not a Ben Tate fan I take it?
I really wish Dion Lewis hadn't of gotten hurt last year, I think our run game would never have suffered had he been around, big fan of his...
I'm ganna go out side of the box and say Gibson. I think with Whitner helping him in coverage more so than TJ did, he could have a great year, especially if we can get a solid pass rush going..
Just don't let him cover Alshon Jeffery EVER AGAIN...
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That's not it at all. I expect him to put up good numbers too.. I might have gotten a little carried away with the 900 yards... but I think if they stay healthy they will both put up very good numbers...
Of course it's expected of Tate, not expected of Baker, which is what makes him a breakout player.. I think if we can get some decent guard play they could work very much like Green-Ellis and Bernard do for Cincy..
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I'm going to go with Gipson.
While he wasn't excellent last year, his progress was impressive. So impressive in fact, it seems the coaching staff felt his strong suits would fit well in their new scheme. So much so, they decided no upgrade was needed in regards to him.
I hope it's Mingo and Hoyer. But unless Mingo bulks up a little and adds some moves to his game, I just don't see it. And the evidence on Hoyer is such a small sample size that I certainly don't have the confidence to make such a prediction.
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j/c I think Mingo will break-out. Sheard will be a close 2nd. I'm HOPING for Hoyer though. That would be huge. 
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Good stuff. As eotab mentioned, it's nice to have so much potential. Hoyer, Sheard, Mingo, Tate, etc... all very exciting.
No love for Schwartz? As a wise ass once said, "May The Schwartz Be With You."
Note: I meant Gibson when I mentioned Bademosi. He is very intriguing this year, though I wonder if the FO won't draft a FS.
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RT breakout season...  All right he gets two pancakes this year!
Know what you mean. He's ok would be nice for the word Excellent. Just for the most part Breakout season would be difficult to adhere to an OLman...All guts no glory 
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J/C ... All I know is that we had 6 guys develop into Pro Bowl level players last year, and if we don't repeat that with another 6 guys this year, then we should fire the coaching staff and start over again.   Just kidding folks! Just kidding!
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All I know is that we had 6 guys develop into Pro Bowl level players last year, and if we don't repeat that with another 6 guys this year, then we should fire the coaching staff and start over again.
Just kidding folks! Just kidding!
you mean additional 6 players, not another 6 players. let's get this right here
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I say if they don't just select the Cleveland Browns as the Pro-Bowl starters, we need to fire everyone.
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Wait... We haven't fired everyone yet?!?! 
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All I know is that we had 6 guys develop into Pro Bowl level players last year, and if we don't repeat that with another 6 guys this year, then we should fire the coaching staff and start over again.
Just kidding folks! Just kidding!
you mean additional 6 players, not another 6 players. let's get this right here
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and that better include the LS!!! the team has been a complete mess since we released Pontbriand. coincidence? obviously not.
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and that better include the LS!!! the team has been a complete mess since we released Pontbriand. coincidence? obviously not.
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I tried to look at this question from Farmer's perspective. If we would ask him "off the record," what would his answer be? My guess: Andrew Hawkins.
Why else would he pay that much for someone who hasn't had consistent success? He must think he'll flourish in the slot as defenses try to take away Gordon, Cameron, Tate, and Watkins/Matthews/Adams/Robinson/Etc.
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My breakout player of the year prediction:
Brian Hoyer - He will be the QB and we will like it a lot.
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Josh Gordon - Last year Gordon was amazing, this year he will put all doubt to rest that he is THE BEST WR IN THE NFL. Hell he might even put on a red cape and just fly to the end zone.lol
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Based on the way the question was framed I'm going to exclude Dansby and Whitner. I really want to see Little have a solid seson. That does nothing but help this offense regardless of who we draft. So Little, handle your business!
Staying on the offensive side of the ball Lewis is a candidate to open some eyes. Hoping to see some explosiveness when he gets his touches.
This player hasn't been mentioned but he got significant PT late last year. Jordan Poyer. He flashed for me last year in the deep secondary. Not expecting him to start just to play well when called on.
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