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ytown, I'm curious what you want him to say?


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ytown, I'm curious what you want him to say?




That's what I'm thinking ... Lebron took a ton of heat because he wasn't up front with the chance that he might leave, and then suddenly dropped the bomb on us on national tv. Kyrie is saying that he'll probably sign the extension, but he needs to finalize that decision in the coming months. I can't fault him for that.

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If he just said that he likes it here and will consider the extension if and when offered, that would have been fine. Hell, even if he said only that he hasn't been offered anything yet, but if he is, then he'll carefully consider it, then that would have been fine. Maybe I just don't like the way he said what he said.

Instead he rolled out this garbage about wanting to be part of this organization, but that he doesn't have a definitive answer as to what he'll do, except that it will be something special. Maybe he's just trying to be too clever ..... but after having all but quit in the final 4 games, he wasn't special, and it wasn't time to be clever.

I think that a max contract player has to be a special talent, who has to have a huge, positive impact on his team. I think that this team actually might have actually played better without him. I like the way Dion led this team while Irving was out. He developed, and improved this year. Irving has regressed in each of his last 2 seasons. If either player has a reason to pout, it would have been Dion, as he was forced to the bench. He continued to improve though. I would rather build around him.

Waiters has regressed as far as FG% in each of his 1st 3 seasons. He started out at 46.9%, then fell to 45.2% as a sophomore, and finally to 43% this past season.

Dion improved from 41.2% to 43.3%. Waiters has surpassed Irving as a shooter. He is also a better defender. (though, to be fair, that's like calling the 9 times divorced man a better husband than that 7 times divorced man)

I still can't get over how Irving has become a worse shooter each year.

I cannot think of a single shooter who started out as a decent shooter, and regressed in the next 2 seasons.

Irving's regression is especially disturbing given that the talent around him has improved. I am not going to pretend that we have the Spurs out there ..... but there is reasonable NBA talent n this team. The talent level has improved in the years since Lebron bolted. Despite that, KIrvine has not improved. Man, that is such a concern to me.


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Can we do this instead?


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no, that's silly.

the East is bad. so, the 9th seed in the West has a better record. boo hoo.


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The 9th seed in the West would be tied for 3rd in the East.

The 10th in the West would have made it in the East.

That's not the East being bad, that's historically terrible.


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Zach Lowe's NBA Mega-List of Things to Like and Dislike

29. Dion Waiters’s Jumper

There are still issues with Waiters’s shot selection, especially when he pulls up for long 2s early in the shot clock. But he shot much better from long range this season, and there were games in the second half of the season where he looked unstoppable for long stretches. And, man, does that jumper look wet when it’s on.

Waiters arcs that baby so high, increasing the likelihood of a pure swish. How high? On long 2-pointers, no player’s shot trajectory reaches a higher average peak, per SportVU data provided to Grantland; Waiters’s average long 2 tops out at 15.6 feet above the ground. And on 3s, only four players reach a higher peak than Waiters’s average of 16.5 feet above the floor: Jamal Crawford, Jordan Crawford, Dirk Nowitzki, and Jeremy Lin. The thing just looks pretty.


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no, that's silly.

the East is bad. so, the 9th seed in the West has a better record. boo hoo.




I agree ... redoing playoff seedings is like THE go-to talking point for sports radio guys and writers to bitch about when they don't have anything else to fill air/paper space.

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no, that's silly.

the East is bad. so, the 9th seed in the West has a better record. boo hoo.




I agree ... redoing playoff seedings is like THE go-to talking point for sports radio guys and writers to bitch about when they don't have anything else to fill air/paper space.




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Thats a good idea. The east has been bad since jordan left the bulls in 98. Just sick of watching teams like the hawks get in when you have a 48 win team sitting home. Just look at the garbage finals in the early 2000"s. Had to watch 3 finals with philly and new jersey. Everyone knew LA had those series before they even played.

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It seems like it would lead to a more competitive playoffs but I'd rather not do that for 2 reasons:

1) It largely defeats the point of having conferences. True you play more games against your own conference but let's be real, the regular season doesn't mean all that much to good teams in the NBA

2) The current system benefits the best teams in the East. That's been Miami the last few years but before that the Cavs benefited from it. The Cavs Finals team wouldn't have made it out of the West or a combined field IMO. Heck even the Celtics and Magic at the time weren't as good as they were made out to be (combined 1 title between the 3 in that time span.)

Of course, things can change. That has happened in the NFL throughout its history with NFC then AFC dominance.

Although in the NBA the West has been so much better for a long time now, you wonder if there is something to it. More desirable locations on average might be part of it.

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The West has clearly been the dominant conference for a long time now, and yet over the past ten years the number of champions are split 50/50 between conferences.

I think more surprising, perhaps, is that only eight franchises have won championships in the last 30 years, and one of those was the one-time champ Dallas Mavericks.

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I think I'd prefer a re-alignment of the conferences that wasn't based on geography. I think only the NHL also does it like that. Prefer the MLB and NFL's version of league's with teams from all regions of the country in the same division and conference.


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The NHL is set up just like the NBA with an East and a West. They have to because of the travel and road trips, etc...

Baseball can do what the want, because all the teams are the sole tenant of their building. NHL and NBA teams have share buildings with each other, concert, ice shows, etc.. It makes it easier when you have shorter travel with division games.

I have no problem with how the NBA is. I don't feel bad for the 9th team in the west, because despite them being far better than the 8th seed in the east, we're still talking mediocrity.

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This. Baseball teams also play against a smaller number of different opponents because they don't play every team in inter-league play. In the NBA, less than 20% of your games are played against division rivals. In the MLB, almost 50% are.

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If I'm the NBA I keep the system as is. There's usually a scenario where the 9 seed might have made it in the other conference, who really cares about teams at the bottom. Although, if a team could be the #3 seed in the other conference, I'd think about moving them over there.

I wouldn't worry too much, the East could get stronger in an offseason or two.


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I will be stunned if San Antonio loses, I've never seen a team execute basketball to damn near perfection like them. However, Oklahoma City has the best chance. Durant would have to go off and Westbrook would have to play perfect.

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Uh.. I was totally expecting that to be some fan made cover or something...


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I was looking for something that was just a few seconds long and couldn't find it. I did come across a bunch of that fan garbage with rap crap. So I went with this. After a few seconds the pause button is a wonderful thing.


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How in the world are the Warriors going to beat the Clippers?




Like that.


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And Roy Hibbert just got swatted like a fly by an Ashton Kutcher look-alike...


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This will help the teams that are looking to sign some of the big name free agents (the Lakers (if they are dumb), Bulls, Rockets, etc.):

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The NBA has informed teams that it is projecting a rise in the salary cap of nearly $5 million for next season, which could aid clubs such as Chicago and Houston in their attempts to steal free agent-to-be Carmelo Anthony from the New York Knicks, according to sources familiar with the forecasts.

Sources told ESPN.com that all 30 teams were informed this week via league memorandum that an increase in the cap from this season's $58.6 million to $63.2 million in 2014-15 -- thanks to increased revenues -- is now expected. A corresponding rise in the luxury-tax threshold from $71.7 million to $77 million is also projected, sources said.

It must be noted that these are non-binding forecasts that have been circulated roughly three months before the official cap ceiling and luxury-tax threshold for next season are announced in early July following a league-wide audit.

But the latest projections will undoubtedly be welcomed by numerous teams that are planning to be active in free agency this summer. If the projections hold, several clubs will find themselves with more spending money and financial flexibility than they initially planned.

The Knicks remain unquestioned favorites to re-sign Anthony after the March hiring of the decorated Phil Jackson as team president and given the fact that only New York can offer the 29-year-old a five-year deal -- one year longer than any other team -- in the $130 million range.

But sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that the Bulls -- even before these developments came to light Friday night via noted NBA salary-cap expert Larry Coon -- were already feeling increasingly optimistic behind the scenes about their chances of convincing Anthony to leave the Knicks in the wake of New York's failure to make the playoffs. This is the first season Anthony has failed to reach the playoffs in his 11-year career.

It's believed that the Bulls would still have to shed some veteran salary in addition to releasing former All-Star forward Carlos Boozer via the amnesty clause this summer to be able to make a competitive offer that could persuade Anthony to leave the new Jackson-led Knicks and the Madison Square Garden stage he loves so dearly. But a higher cap figure than anticipated would naturally make things easier for Chicago.

And Houston has quietly expressed confidence for months that it could make the moves necessary -- such as trading center Omer Asik and/or guard Jeremy Lin -- to thrust itself into the heart of the Anthony bidding depending on how the forthcoming playoffs play out.

The new cap projection for 2014-15, if it comes to fruition, would represent a 7.7 percent increase over this season. The NBA, according to ESPN.com contributor Coon, typically expects a season-to-season rise of 4.5 percent.

Coon reported in a blog on his NBA Salary Cap FAQ website that this is actually the third time already this season that the league has increased its projections for 2014-15.

Yet another spike would suggest that NBA revenues are rising at record rates, which is a notion Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban seemingly echoed earlier this week when he called the $550 million sale of the small-market Milwaukee Bucks "a bargain."




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Makes everyones "Why get the 8 seed just to get swept by Indy" logic seem a little flawed..


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No, ATL went 2-2 in the regular season against Indy. Did we beat them more than once?

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Indy can't beat anyone. I'm not a fan of theirs, but they seem to have lost all of their chemistry. Those mid-season trades blew up in their face, and I don't seem them recovering. They may get past Atlanta, but make no mistake, they won't get past Chicago if they play them next rd.

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Evan Turner is just an awful fit and an awful trade.

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Indy can't beat anyone. I'm not a fan of theirs, but they seem to have lost all of their chemistry. Those mid-season trades blew up in their face, and I don't seem them recovering. They may get past Atlanta, but make no mistake, they won't get past Chicago if they play them next rd.




I still find it funny, Lebron left to make a powerhouse in the East to improve his chance of getting to the Finals, had he stayed in Cleveland the East would have been just as crappy as it is now. Maybe D.Rose doesn't miss two full years, but man, the East is worthless right now.


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Indy can't beat anyone. I'm not a fan of theirs, but they seem to have lost all of their chemistry. Those mid-season trades blew up in their face, and I don't seem them recovering. They may get past Atlanta, but make no mistake, they won't get past Chicago if they play them next rd.




I still find it funny, Lebron left to make a powerhouse in the East to improve his chance of getting to the Finals, had he stayed in Cleveland the East would have been just as crappy as it is now. Maybe D.Rose doesn't miss two full years, but man, the East is worthless right now.




Yeah but does a 2011 Cleveland team with LeBron beat Dallas? Miami couldn't. OKC in 2012? SA in 2013?

I don't think it was ever really about getting through the East, I think it was about being as good as the West.


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I doubt it. The West Finals teams were a class above anybody we ever had to face in the East. Heck I think it is being more than a bit presumptuous that the Cavs would have even made the Finals these last few years, given the team crumpled every time they had to play a good team in the playoffs (exception: vs Detroit in 2007.)

Who says the Cavs would have gotten past teams like Chicago (2011), Boston (2011-2012), and Indiana (2012-2013)? Who did the Cavs ever actually beat to warrant thinking the Cavs would cruise through the East like Miami has?

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Hell Miami didn't even "cruise" to the Finals. They were lucky Indy wasn't ready in 2012 after they went up 2-1, and then LeBron had to play IMO the best game i've ever seen anyone play ever down 3-2 IN Boston..


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Indy can't beat anyone. I'm not a fan of theirs, but they seem to have lost all of their chemistry. Those mid-season trades blew up in their face, and I don't seem them recovering. They may get past Atlanta, but make no mistake, they won't get past Chicago if they play them next rd.




I still find it funny, Lebron left to make a powerhouse in the East to improve his chance of getting to the Finals, had he stayed in Cleveland the East would have been just as crappy as it is now. Maybe D.Rose doesn't miss two full years, but man, the East is worthless right now.




Yeah but does a 2011 Cleveland team with LeBron beat Dallas? Miami couldn't. OKC in 2012? SA in 2013?

I don't think it was ever really about getting through the East, I think it was about being as good as the West.




Pretty much. The east wasn't much better when Lebron was in Cleveland. Boston was obviously a contender, but Indy was also garbage, Chicago was garbage, the Nets were terrible. Really it was Boston-Cleveland-Orlando.

I do like that some of these young teams may be on the rise... Charlotte could be very very good soon, the Wizards obviously showed everybody yesterday... Sad thing is the Cavs should have been mentioned with these teams. It was their year to step up, and instead they fell right on their face.

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I love good team basketball, but Kevin Durant transcends basketball. Him and Lebron are in another universe.

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so, of course, when you have a potential GW shot in regulation, you give it to Westbrook on a fadeaway 3pter despite Durant being unstoppable. Memphis didn't want him getting the ball, but man you have to find a way.

I think that Brooks might be the worst designer of in-bound plays in the NBA (and yes, that includes our coach).


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Has the league issued a statement yet apologizing for Memphis winning?

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I might catch grief, but LBJ and Durant are better versions of Magic and Bird. So does this mean a better version of MJ will be coming in to the league soon?

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I might catch grief, but LBJ and Durant are better versions of Magic and Bird. So does this mean a better version of MJ will be coming in to the league soon?




I would say they are only better people as people, they are phisically more gifted, have better training etc.

Dirk has always been my go to for Bird comparisons anyways. Yes, mostly because they're white. But not only that.

I don't know why anyone ever compared LeBron to Jordan when the comparison to Magic is perfect..

And I guess Durant would then be Chamberlin?


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I am not sure why there has to be a comparison. We have never seen anyone like LeBron or Durant. They are their own entity.

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Durant is more like MJ than anyone on the planet right now...on offense.
Defensively though he is not very good...


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