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Jimmy Haslam hints he’ll match any offer sheet to Alex Mack Posted by Curtis Crabtree on April 8, 2014, 11:50 PM EDT Owner Jimmy Haslam seems pretty confident that center Alex Mack will remain with the Cleveland Browns next season even if he’s signed to an offer sheet by the Jacksonville Jaguars. According to Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Haslam seemed to indicate the Browns are prepared to match any offer sheet given to Mack by the Jaguars. “We remain optimistic that Alex Mack will be a Cleveland Brown for a long time,” Haslam said. “”We want him to be. I think we’ve made it very clear that he’s the kind of person, the kind of player we want in our organization.” When asked if he’d match any offer from Jacksonville, Haslam just smiled and said, “We want Alex to be a Cleveland Brown.” The Browns placed the transition tag on Mack in March. Mack would make $10.039 million with Cleveland this season if he were to sign the tender. The Jaguars – or any other interested teams – have until May 2 to sign players to an offer sheet. The Browns would then have five days in which to watch the offer. A source told PFT the Browns would match an offer sheet with $22 million guaranteed to Mack “in a second.” It indicates the importance Cleveland feels in keeping one of the league’s best centers in town. web page
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The rumor I heard yesterday was that the Jags were in the 3 years/ $22 million range which is just a hair over $7 million/year... I think we'd be stupid to not match that.
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Didn't we already suspect that the Browns would match any offer?
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I would send money, or I could buy a stadium hot dog and a beer. Point made, Mack. Get on board for next year with us. 
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Teammates confident Alex Mack returns, hoping it’s soon Posted by Darin Gantt on April 9, 2014, 7:55 AM EDT Despite his recent visit to Jacksonville, it still appears Alex Mack will remain in Cleveland. At least this year. With owner Jimmy Haslam indicating he’ll match any offer, and with a one-year, $10 million transition tag deal on the table, that’s still the most likely outcome. “There’s no doubt that he’ll be here at least this year,” Browns left tackle Joe Thomas said, via Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal. “I think that’s for certain. I certainly hope we can sign him to a long-term deal and keep him here for much longer than I am here.” Thomas is committed to the Browns through 2018, so it remains to be seen if that part happens. “We’re all just hoping it gets resolved soon and he’s back,” Browns quarterback Brian Hoyer said. “Obviously, we have a new system to learn, and he’s the anchor of that offensive line. So we’re hoping that gets resolved soon, and obviously, as a player, you know guys have to do what’s best for them. But also I think having Alex is huge for our offense and his veteran leadership along with Joe on the offensive line. Learning a new system, a center is usually a big part of certain calls and things like that, so we’re hoping Alex gets back here soon and things get worked out.” At this point, there’s no reason to rush that. Mack has until July 22 to sign an offer sheet, which might keep him from OTAs and snapping it to Hoyer, or whichever quarterback the Browns end up with in the draft. web page
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What's best for them? What exactly is best for Alex? Moving to another team that is virtually as bad, if not worse, than ours? If Alex wants to win, he's not going to achieve that there in Jaguars land.
I'm not sure what Hoyer means unless Alex is at the point he just needs to get outta here and to just ANY, virtually ANY other place as a change in scenery.
I still feel bad for Alex. This transition tag lingering over his head is preventing him from doing what "he" really wants, which by now - it's pretty clear as day I think Alex would rather go play on any other NFL team just to get outta here. As I've said before, not sure I can blame him whatsoever either. I don't think it's about money. Just about getting outta an environment he doesn't want to be in anywhere.
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I certainly hope we can sign him to a long-term deal and keep him here for much longer than I am here.”
How long until some idiot translates this to mean that Joe wants out?
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What's best for them? What exactly is best for Alex? Moving to another team that is virtually as bad, if not worse, than ours? If Alex wants to win, he's not going to achieve that there in Jaguars land.
Or maybe simply getting a better offer from the Jags for our FO to match. You know, more money and not go anywhere?
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This is a huge reach some fans have come to. Simply testing the market for the best offer possible is the smart thing to do. The Browns would most certainly match the offer. Both Mack and his agent know this. What Hoyer means is simple. The players would rather this process be over sooner rather than later to give more time to build chemistry in the new system. Yes, another year and another new system.
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I certainly hope we can sign him to a long-term deal and keep him here for much longer than I am here.”
How long until some idiot translates this to mean that Joe wants out?
Well didn't you read what he said!!??
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Pit - is it really a "huge reach" that a player that has been a part of this place since 2009, factoring all the constant staff changes, the losing and fallouts and all the other many things that has made us a losing organization and the laugh of the NFL for years and years, to say/predict he doesn't want to be here anymore? I wouldn't label it a "huge reach" at all bro. It may not be wrong, it may not be right - but IMO it is in the realm of feasible reality. As you said, "some of us have different opinions" are we are entitled to that/them! 
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How long until some idiot translates this to mean that Joe wants out?
About 15 minutes
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The rumor I heard yesterday was that the Jags were in the 3 years/ $22 million range which is just a hair over $7 million/year... I think we'd be stupid to not match that.
I think it would be stupid to match it. $7 million/year for a center (no, I don't care that he's a pro bowl one) is too much, IMO. But, I can see them doing it because it keeps him here for 2 additional years, they don't have to tag him for the next three seasons and they still trim about $3 million/year (avg.) off the price of the contract for 2 additional years.
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So, what should the max be? And what should the Browns do with the delta between that max and $7 million?
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The max what? The maximum that the Browns should pay for him? That's up to them. Personally, I wouldn't pay any center more than $5/million per year.
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ok, so what should they do with that extra $2 million?
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The rumor I heard yesterday was that the Jags were in the 3 years/ $22 million range which is just a hair over $7 million/year... I think we'd be stupid to not match that.
I think it would be stupid to match it. $7 million/year for a center (no, I don't care that he's a pro bowl one) is too much, IMO. But, I can see them doing it because it keeps him here for 2 additional years, they don't have to tag him for the next three seasons and they still trim about $3 million/year (avg.) off the price of the contract for 2 additional years.
What's to say they won't offer a longer term deal.. Like 5 years at 40 million or something like that,,, with a signing bonus and the first 3 years guaranteed
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I match it before the ink dries.
JT and AM locked up until 2018 is ok with me.
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JT and AM locked up until 2018 is ok with me.
Me too..
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The max what? The maximum that the Browns should pay for him? That's up to them. Personally, I wouldn't pay any center more than $5/million per year.
I think that the Center position has become far more important in today's NFL, because, as plays become faster and faster, it behooves a defense to push their rush inside to get to the QB as quickly as possible. The quickest path to the QB is right over Center.
I don't believe that $7 or $8 million is unreasonable.
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The max what? The maximum that the Browns should pay for him? That's up to them. Personally, I wouldn't pay any center more than $5/million per year.
I think that the Center position has become far more important in today's NFL, because, as plays become faster and faster, it behooves a defense to push their rush inside to get to the QB as quickly as possible. The quickest path to the QB is right over Center.
I don't believe that $7 or $8 million is unreasonable.
Especially in a ZBS! They will need a QB on the line more than ever and Mack has that mental ability to go with the physical ability..Rare talent
I would say $7M per year is just about perfect. I highly doubt anyone makes an offer higher than that, but that would make him about the 3rd highest paid center in the league, which is also about where he falls in the pecking order...at least the top 5.
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If making him the highest paid center is what it takes to lock him up Im good with it. How much cap it takes doesnt matter to me. We arent anywhere near close on cap so why not? Someday we may have enough good players to worry about cap space, but we arent there yet.
The cap goes up every year, and we can re-structure in a couple years if need be.
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I highly doubt any team is going to make an offer hearing this news. But who knows?
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j/c... just remember 3-5 years from now...he might be the 5-10th highest paid Center. So who knows how this will work out with future contracts. High paid now might seem like a bargain later 
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Exactly, Khalil at the time was a monster contract, now when Mack signs for the same amount, it's going to be normal.
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Go find a back-up center because ours isn't going to be very good. 
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Go find a back-up center because ours isn't going to be very good.
Wasn't there a time when our OL consisted of all backup center's?
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I wouldn't label it a "huge reach" at all bro. It may not be wrong, it may not be right - but IMO it is in the realm of feasible reality. As you said, "some of us have different opinions" are we are entitled to that/them!
You're right. "Huge reach" was going too far.
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Some things in the NFL ya shouldna have to worry about. Centers and long snappers are two of them IMO. Sweeten up the match or announce FO is looking for a longer term deal. But Mack started this rolling; he is the one to stop it. 
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I just got a notification from my ESPN app that Jax is offering Alex Mack a 5 year deal...
Trying to find an article that verifies it...
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You're right and it's a 5 year deal.
Too much turnover in Cleveland? Why not sign with a team that has had 4 different Head Coaches since 2011 (Del Rio, Tucker [interim], Mularkey [1 and done], Bradley)?
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Sweeten up the match or announce FO is looking for a longer term deal. But Mack started this rolling; he is the one to stop it.
It's not going to end until Mack receives a solid offer from another team that the Browns will match.
They Browns probably made an offer of $X and Mack probably felt he could get more on the open market. If he gets a solid offer of $X+1, Now he knows his worth. All the browns have to do is match it and it's done. 
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Why on earth would Mack be excited about playing for Jacksonville? Anyway, give him a deal, let us match it, and that's that. Move on
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Agent Marvin Demoff has expressed confidence that an offer sheet could be constructed that the Browns wouldn’t match. While that may have been possible with a shorter-term deal, it will be very difficult to craft a five-year contract that will be acceptable to the Jaguars but not to the Browns.
The only possible loophole comes from a wink-nod arrangement between the Jaguars and Mack, involving a device like (as Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports hinted earlier today) a mammoth balloon payment early in the 2015 league year. The high cap number would need to be spread over the remaining four years as a signing bonus. But if Mack tells the Browns that he’d never agree to restructure the contract in Cleveland, the Browns would have to choose between carrying a huge cap number in 2015 or cutting him.
In Jacksonville, Mack could agree in 2015 to convert the balloon payment to a signing bonus, shrinking the cap number dramatically.
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If Mack really wants to play in J-ville and he calls the Browns and begs them not to match, what do we do? I mean if he really does not want to be here do we just let him go or do we match and hope he does not become a cancer?
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I'd say thanks for your heart and effort here in Cleveland and good luck (losing) there in Jacksonville... simple as that IMO.
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