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Not sure this belongs here.. Kinda more of a human interest story. Quote:
How Mike Pettine’s dad became the ‘godfather’ of the Browns’ coaching staff
Mike Pettine, Sr. might be retired from coaching on the sidelines, but that doesn’t mean he’s done giving football suggestions.
Last week, the father of the Browns’ head coach mailed a 40-page document for his son to give to offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan.
“When I was a coach, I wanted ideas,” Pettine Sr. said recently via the phone. “You never know where it’s going to come from, and a light bulb will go off.”
Pettine, Sr. is a guy you want throwing suggestions your way.
When asked about the biggest piece of advice he would give the coaching staff in Cleveland, Pettine, Sr. gave a rather rousing six-minute sermon with some of his favorite philosophies, capping it off with, “Sorry to go on that tangent, but football is about a lot of little things.”
A legendary coach at Central Bucks High School West just outside of Philadelphia, Pettine Sr. amassed a stunning 327-42 record from 1967-99. Multiple ESPN documentaries were filmed on his successes. Coach Pettine’s football teams were revered in Pennsylvania and recognized around the United States.
And believe it or not, Pettine, Sr. should be regarded as the godfather of the current Browns coaching staff.
Not only did Pettine, Jr. play for his father in high school, but so did defensive coordinator Jim O’Neil, as well as linebackers coach Chuck Driesbach, who suited up for Pettine Sr. in the early 1970’s. It’s a rare bond that has impacted all three coaches.
“I was in a bad place,” said Driesbach of his underclassmen years in high school. “I didn’t have good grades. I never would have gone on to college. But he got me a scholarship to Fork Union military academy. Not only did he win games, he improved us as men. I wouldn’t be sitting in the NFL without him.”
“He set extremely high standards and was very demanding,” said Jim O’Neil. “The reason the program had so much success is they maximized everyone’s athletic ability. You were going to be close to your ceiling when you graduated from Central Bucks West. He taught me accountability, how to tell the truth to players and being cutting-edge on putting together schemes.”
“Dad taught me to not worry about the things you don’t have control over,” said Pettine Jr. “You have to be able to prioritize as a head coach. If you start doing something here, and all of a sudden ‘I got to do this, and I got to do that.’ Just get one thing done at a time.”
“Money can’t buy this type of satisfaction,” said a beaming Pettine, Sr. about his three NFL coaches.
THREE DIFFERENT CHARACTERS
Each of the Browns’ coaches personalities and teaching styles can be boiled down to the type of player they were in high school, Pettine, Sr. says.
Driesbach was an intense competitor who earned notoriety for some of the street fights he got himself into in the early 1970’s. He carried that brawling style over to the football field as offensive and defensive end. During a big game his senior year, Driesbach was returning from an injury and was supposed to be out of the game. He convinced coach Pettine Sr. that he at least wanted to dress for the game. Driesbach’s replacement at defensive end hurt himself, and while coach Pettine was scrambling around looking for a replacement, Driesbach already had run out on the field, “limp and all,” Pettine, Sr. recalled with a laugh.
O’Neil has always been the baby-faced, young puppy, according to Pettine, Sr. Playing for Central Bucks West in the late 1990’s, O’Neil was the kind of guy coaches dreamt about cloning in a laboratory. On-and-off the field, he was a spongy student of the game who often told his teammates what their assignments were. O’Neil was an excellent leader and exemplified toughness. The current Browns defensive coordinator battled a nasty shoulder dislocation his entire senior season; an injury which he played every game through. Pettine, Sr. jokingly said O’Neil “did have some delusions of wanting to be a skill player,” but he was more suited as an interior lineman.
Pettine, Sr. even introduced his son to O’Neil, while the latter was an up and coming defensive coordinator at Towson University in Maryland. O’Neil eventually talked his way into shadowing Pettine, Jr. while he was an outside linebackers coach with the Baltimore Ravens. Pettine, Jr. told O’Neil if he ever got a coordinator position, he would be bringing O’Neil on board with him, and did so with the New York Jets in 2009.
As for Pettine, Jr. as a high school player, his father’s tone changed.
“I was overly tough on him,” Pettine, Sr. said after a long pause.
He went on to describe his son as a gifted, naturally talented athlete. Pettine, Jr. still holds the interception record as a defensive back. Pettine, Jr. also starred at quarterback and committed to the University of Virginia to play the position. The Central Bucks West team Pettine, Jr.’s year finished with a 9-2 record; both losses were by one point each.
'NAME OF THE GAME IS WINNING'
Pettine, Sr.’s days are currently spent relaxing in Florida. His best golfing buddy hails from the Cleveland area and is a lifelong Browns supporter. The two chitchat about the excitement surrounding the team with a stable of veteran free agent acquisitions and a bevy of draft picks.
Pettine, Sr. plans on visiting the Berea facility sometime in May. He reiterates how proud he is of his son but his businesslike coach tone buzzes loudly over the phone. He knows the challenge his son faces in turning the Browns into contenders.
“We all are enjoying the honeymoon period,” Pettine, Sr. said. “But once September rolls around, the name of the game is winning.”
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Good read, thanks for the post Daman. It's encouraging to know how tight the dynamic of the coaching is on the team. 
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I know it's been said on a few threads now, but I think it bears repeating. I believe that Mike Pettine Jr. could be a really great coach for us. He seems to value all of things that the Browns have lacked over the last few years: Passion, mental/physical toughness, desire and a winning attitude. This article seems to reiterate everything that we hope to be the case with Mike, Jr and his staff. Of course, it is all words until we get into the season, but this is the most positive I have felt about the next season in years. In fact, I spent a couple of years contemplating whether I should even invest my 3 hours of time on Sundays to watch. I hope this year we see the turn. Go Browns
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When asked about the biggest piece of advice he would give the coaching staff in Cleveland, Pettine, Sr. gave a rather rousing six-minute sermon with some of his favorite philosophies, capping it off with, “Sorry to go on that tangent, but football is about a lot of little things.”
Agreed. Most people concentrate on the big things. I have always believed that if you take care of all the little details, the big things will take care of themselves.
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When asked about the biggest piece of advice he would give the coaching staff in Cleveland, Pettine, Sr. gave a rather rousing six-minute sermon with some of his favorite philosophies, capping it off with, “Sorry to go on that tangent, but football is about a lot of little things.”
Agreed. Most people concentrate on the big things. I have always believed that if you take care of all the little details, the big things will take care of themselves.
And, just as importantly, if you can't get the small things right, the big things will never be right.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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I know I'd be super psyched to get 40 pages of rambling notes on how to do my job from my new bosses dad, lol. Just kidding of course. of course.
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Now maybe you see why I was a bit excited about Pettine. I have tempered my excitement since we hired him and i realize my opinion means as much as a 13 year old girl excited by her new boyfriend lol. But I really like the guy SO FAR. I will still reserve judgement until he has coached the browns for three full seasons as I could be fooled. (It wouldn't be the first time)
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Pettine Sr: Bob LaMonte's dramatic foil.
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I know I'd be super psyched to get 40 pages of rambling notes on how to do my job from my new bosses dad, lol. Just kidding of course. of course.
yeah, no doubt.
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Now maybe you see why I was a bit excited about Pettine. I have tempered my excitement since we hired him and i realize my opinion means as much as a 13 year old girl excited by her new boyfriend lol. But I really like the guy SO FAR. I will still reserve judgement until he has coached the browns for three full seasons as I could be fooled. (It wouldn't be the first time)
I like the hire. I think this is one guy who understands the importance of mental toughness and accountability and he has the ability to pull it off w/the players w/out alienating them. That's tough to do.
What I do question is how he evaluates talent. He has said some things that make me shudder, especially in regards to the QB position. I also hope he isn't one of those coaches who get overly involved in the offense, you know, just because he played QB in high school.
We'll see.
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I wouldn't grade him on his QB phrases that have been quoted as we are in the smoke n mirror time of the draft and one of the perspective QB investors.
As for his offense. I think he has a good understanding of offense - but he went and got an experienced OC who I think has an ego - This is the first time Pettine has been able to step back and look at all O, D and ST.
JMHO - we'll see what happens. He seems like a guy who knows a lot but wants to keep on learning and growing. Not quite like anyone I can liken him to. So many traits of some pretty good coaches.
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Reminds me a lot of buddy ryan with his defensive mindset. Just more polished and politically correct.
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I've heard all this before. I'll be at the home opener. Anyone who knows me, knows I am going to surgically dissect that first game in person. The game, the plays, the players, the sidelines, how players react to their QB, adversity, big plays, down to how quickly the fat concession stand worker takes to get me my drinks.
This isn't high school football, this isn't Buffalo that has had much more recent success than us. I will not have patience, I am not willing to have "Growing Pains", get these gaggle of front runners on the same page and start winning, right now.
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I've heard all this before. I'll be at the home opener. Anyone who knows me, knows I am going to surgically dissect that first game in person. The game, the plays, the players, the sidelines, how players react to their QB, adversity, big plays, down to how quickly the fat concession stand worker takes to get me my drinks.
This isn't high school football, this isn't Buffalo that has had much more recent success than us. I will not have patience, I am not willing to have "Growing Pains", get these gaggle of front runners on the same page and start winning, right now.
Oh if it were only that simple.. You may want that, I'm sure Pettine, Farmer, Haslam, all the coaching staff and the players want that as well. If it were that easy, they'd have done it already.
First game isn't the time to nitpick the heck out of them,, That's time to find out the weak spots and see if the assess them the same way and make corrections.
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The past say 6 home openers have been horribly undisciplined, sloppy, garbage, terribly coached football games. Those seasons turned out exactly the same way the opener did. It's not a science, but it means a lot.
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This isn't high school football, this isn't Buffalo that has had much more recent success than us. I will not have patience, I am not willing to have "Growing Pains", get these gaggle of front runners on the same page and start winning, right now.
bpg...so you are not going to be patient and you are not willing to go through "Growing Pains"...and the team needs to win right now...
OR WHAT?...what you gonna do...leave the board?
It does not matter who is coaching or managing...with each change comes a new style of coaching and a new playbook for the offense and defense and it takes some time to learn the new schemes.
You might chose to be unrealistic and immature, jumping up and down, acting like a kid who didn't get exactly what he wanted for Christmas...and that conduct is more a reflection on you than it is a motivation for the new coaching staff.
The 2014 Browns will go into every game with a plan to win each game...but realistically, most of us realize that is not going to happen....think about it.
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I'll stop buying tickets, for starters. But you're right, it's an unrealistic, reflection on me to expect a team to win.
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The past say 6 home openers have been horribly undisciplined, sloppy, garbage, terribly coached football games. Those seasons turned out exactly the same way the opener did. It's not a science, but it means a lot.
Justify it anyway that makes you feel better, but not that it means anymore than your beliefs, remember 2007. We got clobbered in the opener and went on to win 10 games..
but I get what your saying, the first game sets the tone..
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I'll stop buying tickets, for starters.
But you're right, it's an unrealistic, reflection on me to expect a team to win.
I understand where you are comming from. I feel much the same way. It's not like you are threatening anything.
I don't mind growing pains. It's the pains without the growing part that bother me. Our opener is critical and our home opener if not the same game is critical. We don't necessarily have to win those games, but indeed we need to look good and ready to play.
I think we went in to last season with the idea it was all pointing to this season and Chud sort of bee-bopped his was through the season.
We need to be nose to the grind stone from play one and quit goofing around. I think Haslam has sent that message. I don't think Farmer or Pettine have any questions that is the direction we need to be headed day one. I trust that message is sent to the players.
I think we have a intense coaching staff. I don't think they will put up with slackers. It wouldn't surprise me if we cut a player or two very early in camp. Heck, maybe even after a mini camp to send the message.
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The past say 6 home openers have been horribly undisciplined, sloppy, garbage, terribly coached football games. Those seasons turned out exactly the same way the opener did. It's not a science, but it means a lot.
I tend to agree with you. I think we will know very early if this team has turned a corner... I'm not saying I'm going to abandon ship if we lose the first game but you will be able to tell in the style of play whether we are on the right track...
Harbaugh inherited a horrible San Fran team and in week 1 of his first year beat the Seahawks (who were not very good at the time) by 20 points. I do not believe it takes years or even months to get a good indication of whether we are headed in the right direction or not.
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Yep.
Attitude is what drives hustle and intensity, thus, they never slump unless the attitude isn't right.
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I'll stop buying tickets, for starters.
But you're right, it's an unrealistic, reflection on me to expect a team to win.
Bpg...nothing wrong with expecting the team to win...but you seem to forget what you said and what I responded to...
bpg, your words...This isn't high school football, this isn't Buffalo that has had much more recent success than us. I will not have patience, I am not willing to have "Growing Pains", get these gaggle of front runners on the same page and start winning, right now.
bpg...your ultimatum ..." start winning, right now." ... was the basis for my response to you.
Unrealistic expectations and childish behavior if the team doesn't win right now, won't help.
Every Browns fan wants the team to win...if they are anywhere near .500 this season, I will consider it a successful season. But hey, that's just me trying to be realistic.
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and my point is, that to even get close to .500, what we saw the past 6 seasons on opening day will have to be NIGHT AND DAY from what we see this year. All this talk from Pettine about the little things and being the toughest team will have to come true and it will be very apparent if it's all just talk.
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and my point is, that to even get close to .500, what we saw the past 6 seasons on opening day will have to be NIGHT AND DAY from what we see this year. All this talk from Pettine about the little things and being the toughest team will have to come true and it will be very apparent if it's all just talk.
No matter how you slice it, Opening day is ONE GAME. Dallas lost the first two games horribly and then went on to win the SB..
Game one doesn't mean anymore than game 16.
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and my point is, that to even get close to .500, what we saw the past 6 seasons on opening day will have to be NIGHT AND DAY from what we see this year. All this talk from Pettine about the little things and being the toughest team will have to come true and it will be very apparent if it's all just talk.
No matter how you slice it, Opening day is ONE GAME. Dallas lost the first two games horribly and then went on to win the SB..
Game one doesn't mean anymore than game 16.
I disagree. I assume you are talking about the '93 Cowboys.. they were the defending super bowl champs, they had nothing to prove and should have had all of the confidence in the world... a stinker in week 1 or 2 is pretty meaningless.... compare that the to Browns..
An emotionally fragile team where the early season indicators are going to lead them to believe that A. Things have changed or B. Here we go again. This team will start the season where it has started most previous seasons, on the edge of a cliff and if they start slow, falling into the "here we go again" mindset will be all too easy.
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If you can watch all that you listed in ONE game and give a full, dead on evaluation I'd be surprised. 
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and my point is, that to even get close to .500, what we saw the past 6 seasons on opening day will have to be NIGHT AND DAY from what we see this year. All this talk from Pettine about the little things and being the toughest team will have to come true and it will be very apparent if it's all just talk.
No matter how you slice it, Opening day is ONE GAME. Dallas lost the first two games horribly and then went on to win the SB..
Game one doesn't mean anymore than game 16.
If you simply look at the percentages, sure. But if you look at how momentum can impact things, then those games are most important.
As I said earlier, we don't have to win them, but we have to look the part. On paper, a loss is a loss no doubt, but I think you understand that there are bad losses and losses where you can walk away proud.
At minimum we need to start walking away proud when we don't win.
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Harbaugh inherited a horrible San Fran team
That surprised me when I read that - only because that team I thought had a lot of talent on it - they didn't know how to win and didn't have an established QB.
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I know I'd be super psyched to get 40 pages of rambling notes on how to do my job from my new bosses dad, lol.
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That surprised me when I read that - only because that team I thought had a lot of talent on it - they didn't know how to win and didn't have an established QB.
Which was my point.. we have a lot of talent, we don't know how to win, we don't have an established QB, we play undisciplined... all the same things the 49ers did yet they were able to turn it around in 1 year with a new coach, who knew how to get his guys to buy in, play hard, play smart, he knew how to get the most out of a highly drafted QB who was already being called a bust by a lot of people... we aren't that different.
Now I'm not saying I expect us to go 13-3... but I'm also not in the camp that says it should take a long time to figure out which direction we are headed. We should be headed up and it should be immediately apparent, even if we do lose a few games.
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Unrealistic expectations and childish behavior if the team doesn't win right now, won't help.
Every Browns fan wants the team to win...if they are anywhere near .500 this season, I will consider it a successful season. But hey, that's just me trying to be realistic.
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What is "anywhere near .500"? Is 6 wins near? Does it have to be 7?
I'm at the point where I would consider anything below .500 to be a very poor season.
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Let's hope Pettine just threw this in a desk drawer.
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Let's hope Pettine just threw this in a desk drawer.
Why?
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Let's hope Pettine just threw this in a desk drawer.
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You might chose to be unrealistic and immature, jumping up and down, acting like a kid who didn't get exactly what he wanted for Christmas...
This is coming from you?
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This isn't high school football, this isn't Buffalo that has had much more recent success than us. I will not have patience, I am not willing to have "Growing Pains", get these gaggle of front runners on the same page and start winning, right now.
bpg...so you are not going to be patient and you are not willing to go through "Growing Pains"...and the team needs to win right now...
OR WHAT?...what you gonna do...leave the board?
It does not matter who is coaching or managing...with each change comes a new style of coaching and a new playbook for the offense and defense and it takes some time to learn the new schemes.
You might chose to be unrealistic and immature, jumping up and down, acting like a kid who didn't get exactly what he wanted for Christmas...and that conduct is more a reflection on you than it is a motivation for the new coaching staff.
The 2014 Browns will go into every game with a plan to win each game...but realistically, most of us realize that is not going to happen....think about it.
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I think he's just tired of the term... We're sick of hearing about "building" and "progress" and all that other garbage...
The truth is, growing pains will come, but how long will they be? And more importantly, where is the pay off? We've been going through growing pains for years, and have yet to really be rewarded.
Maybe the growing pains last only a game or two, maybe longer. A new coach doesn't necessarily mean a long season of struggling... Plenty of guys have come in first year as head coach and made their mark.
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Last week, the father of the Browns’ head coach mailed a 40-page document for his son to give to offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan.
Let's hope Pettine just threw this in a desk drawer.
Yep. What kind of clown act is this?
Again, I ask why is it a bad thing for Pettines dad to give him this stuff? I don't know whats in it, does anyone else?
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You honestly can't figure that out on your own?
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