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Sorry, but I can't even decipher that mess.
We disagree..............almost completely.
I had updated it while you replied.
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OK, this does concern me a lot. I respect Bruce Arians a lot when it comes to QBs. This could be a smokescreen ....... but I don't think that a coach would come out this directly about a player unless he really felt this way. This would be kind of an insult ..... and I doubt he does that to a kid they want to draft. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete...ton-rants-raves• Cardinals coach Bruce Arians used Troy Smith when asked to compare Teddy Bridgewater to an NFL player. That's not a good thing. I doubt the Cardinals take Bridgewater as some have speculated.
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Not for nothing but just in the first 1 min 32 seconds of that video, he's showing some nice mid to long range throws. Am I missing something.
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Bridgewater buys loss of value insurance.. http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10851039/teddy-bridgewater-5m-loss-value-policyThis isn't really as meaningful as it sounds. when you read the article, there are lots of guys that do this..
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I can't grasp how a guy can fall so hard in a few short months of not playing football.
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I can't grasp how a guy can fall so hard in a few short months of not playing football.
Or this is where he always was on teams draft boards and the media is just finally picking up on it.
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I can't grasp how a guy can fall so hard in a few short months of not playing football.
Only really two schools of thought that I can see.
1. His failure at his scripted pro day.
2. He was never really thought of that highly to begin with.
Keep in mind, teams aren't saying any of this stuff. it's all Ex-GM's or other media types. So really, who knows what teams are thinking? It's all media speculation which this time of year, doesn't always mean much.
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I can't grasp how a guy can fall so hard in a few short months of not playing football.
bpg...I agree...hard to figure out what changed with Bridgewater.
The inaccuracy reported in workouts and pro day is hard to explain. We need to keep in mind, TB had everything heading his way, then the workouts.
I wonder if Bridgewater is dealing with an injury in his shoulder or arm ?
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I hate the way he uses his lower body in his throwing motion. It's almost like he purposely tries not to drive the ball. There was only a throw or two in the highlight package that I actually liked. The one at the 3 minute mark he was pressured and put one on the money. But the others....
Man I don't know. He doesn't drive the ball off his front leg at all. He almost hops on some of them for some reason. He flicks it. I just don't like him at all.
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Yea, but he gets it where it's supposed to go! Doesn't that count for something?
Bernie Kosar never had a rocket launcher for an arm and his delivery was awkward to say the least, but it got there.
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That counts for everything. I mean that's the end goal.
I just like a very specific way for a QB to throw the football. The best thrower of the football today is Tom Brady. I want a guy who plants his leg and drives through it forward. Throws over the top and down. Puts plenty of spin on it. Watch Brady do it. He's the best.
Add in a lightning quick release and you have Dan Marino. The best pure thrower of the football that I've ever seen.
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I can't grasp how a guy can fall so hard in a few short months of not playing football.
bpg...I agree...hard to figure out what changed with Bridgewater.
The inaccuracy reported in workouts and pro day is hard to explain. We need to keep in mind, TB had everything heading his way, then the workouts.
I wonder if Bridgewater is dealing with an injury in his shoulder or arm ?
I read an article....let me find it....
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...=Twitter_nfl_cb
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Louisville's Teddy Bridgewater purchased insurance that would pay him $5 million if he falls out of the top 10 and the fall can be proved to have been caused by injury or illness.
Bridgewater purchased a $5 million loss-of-value insurance policy after the 2013 season, ESPN.com reported. That came on top of his $10 million total disability injury policy. Disability insurance has become common among top prospects, but ESPN.com reported that, "It is believed that no player who has bought loss-of-value insurance for the NFL draft has actually collected."
Bridgewater seems increasingly likely to go outside the top 10, but there have been no injury or illness concerns that have been made public. Instead, Bridgewater critics point to his relatively mediocre pro-day workout as a reason he is dropping on draft boards.
NFL Media draft analyst Mike Mayock recently explained his reasoning for dropping Bridgewater: "I saw about four of his tapes prior to the combine, and I really liked him. I thought he had a chance to be a franchise quarterback from what I saw on the tape. ... Except you've got to see the quarterbacks throw the ball live. I've never seen a top-level quarterback in the last 10 years have a bad pro day, until Teddy Bridgewater. He had no accuracy, the ball came out funny, the arm strength wasn't there, and it made me question everything I saw on tape because this was live. I went back and watched a bunch more tape and compared him to the rest of the guys in the draft. And like it or not, I've come to a conclusion -- if I was a GM in the NFL, I would not take him in the first round of the draft."
But it's not just his bad pro-day workout. In mid-January -- more than three months ago and about three weeks after Louisville's season ended -- NFL Media draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah tweeted that "I know several teams that don't view him as a 1st-round player."
In his most recent mock draft, Jeremiah has Bridgewater going 26th to the Cleveland Browns. Fellow analysts Bucky Brooks and Charles Davis, in their most recent mocks, also have Bridgewater going 26th, while NFL Network analyst Brian Baldinger doesn't have Bridgewater going in the first round.
It's to the point now that NFL Network analyst Curtis Conway says that if Bridgewater falls into the second round, "He will definitely be the best bargain in this draft."
It was reported that the loss-of-value policy cost less than $20,000. Again, though, the only way for Bridgewater to collect is to prove illness or injury caused the loss of value.
Mike Huguenin can be reached at [Email]mike.huguenin@nfl.com.[/Email] You also can follow him on Twitter @MikeHuguenin.
Brings all sorts of ideas to mind. Maybe he wants to fall out of top 10? Seems unlikely but who knows. Maybe he actually is injured? Injuries heal.
Who knows, but all in all it is very odd.
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... all in all it is very odd.
Indeed, as you cannot collect unless there is a proven injury or illness. We have touched on this subject off-n-on since his pro day. The Teddy today is not the Teddy on film. Something is very odd...
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Yea, but he gets it where it's supposed to go! Doesn't that count for something?
It does but it makes it harder to project whether he will be able to get away with it in the NFL or whether he will be able to fix it.
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I can't grasp how a guy can fall so hard in a few short months of not playing football.
Or this is where he always was on teams draft boards and the media is just finally picking up on it.
My guess that this is the truth behind it all.
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Some scouts are concerned Bridgewater will never become a starter My favorite part of this was.. Quote:
Physically, however, the thinking by some is that Bridgewater simply lacks the attributes necessary to make him one of the rare men who can be starting quarterbacks in the NFL.
You know.. Like Ken Dorsey..
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I am becoming more concerned about him. With all of the experts falling off him in rapid order, I am worried that I let people talk me into him, because I really didn't watch him. *Sigh* Why can't we ever suck worse than everyone else in a season when the following draft has an Andrew Luck in it?  I dunno. I just hope that Farmer's plan for the position works.
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We came back into the league the year AFTER Peyton Manning came in..
We werent nearly as good at sucking as the Colts the year Luck came out...
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We came back into the league the year AFTER Peyton Manning came in..
We would have taken Ryan Leaf anyway.
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We came back into the league the year AFTER Peyton Manning came in..
We would have taken Ryan Leaf anyway.
Quoted for truth.
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We would have taken Ryan Leaf anyway.
We would have traded back and taken Couch the following year.
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Just clicking ... sorry if this was posted, but I just saw a mock on Walter Football that has Bridgewater going to Houston ... in the 3rd round, at pick #65. What the hell is going on with this guy? http://walterfootball.com/draft2014_3.php
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Just clicking ... sorry if this was posted, but I just saw a mock on Walter Football that has Bridgewater going to Houston ... in the 3rd round, at pick #65. What the hell is going on with this guy?
http://walterfootball.com/draft2014_3.php
I read on NFL.com the other day that some teams don't believe Teddy Bridgewater is a first round prospect because he can't be the face of franchise. The whole thing sounds rather silly.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...ise-in-question
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I'm beginning to think these draft prognosticators are a bunch of lemmings that wait for pronouncements from one of the big dogs, like Kiper or Mayock, and then proceed to run over the cliff along with them.
(This draft needs to arrive already, I'm using mixed metaphors.)
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I'm beginning to think these draft prognosticators are a bunch of lemmings that wait for pronouncements from one of the big dogs, like Kiper or Mayock, and then proceed to run over the cliff along with them.
(This draft needs to arrive already, I'm using mixed metaphors.)
I think that most of it is intentionally manufactured drama and that the Draft will go down almost exactly how folks might have guessed back at the end of December.
If everyone felt that they knew exactly how it would unfold, nobody would watch, ratings would plummet.
Manufacture some doubt, pay some ghost writers & bloggers to seed craziness, and suddenly you have an event where people will nearly be on the edge of their seats.
Browns is the Browns
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I think theres some thought to the idea that say one guy says Teddy is dropping..
Someone runs with it, dropping him from top 5 to mid first...
Then someone else sees it, and sees him in the mid first, and drops him to the 2nd round, etc..
Mainly this would be with your general media types. The ones that ya know, don't really care about things like checking facts and whatnot..
Eh, I guess that does describe a lot of them...
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The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
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Boy, the media is like a self devouring snake. I hear all this hype on Manziel and I am not buying into it. The "it factor", "the face of the franchise" what does this crap mean? No wonder the advertising industry just pounds the commercials (Geico etc.) eventually people just give in and buy into "it".
Bridgewater is by far the best quarterback in this draft. Three years of continuous improvement and high production. Tough plays hurt. Reads defenses. Calls blocking schemes. Goes through progressions. Extremely accurate. Leader with zero character issues. Bowl game MVP's. Last game throws for over 400 yards and is the game MVP.
Now all of a sudden he is dog meat.
We shall see if the GM's are as gullible as the public.
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I would hope that by now, everyone knows that all this talk about a guy rising and another guys dropping is all hype. It gives talking heads something to chew on. I"m not convinced it has any real value.
If Nothing changed since January (injury, failed drug test, arrests etc) then the guy you saw during the year is the guy you will see on draft day. (good and/or bad pro days and individual workouts can tell a story as well but not enough to dismiss what you witnessed in college games IMO)
I also have doubts that NFL GM's are that gullible. Some are way smarter than others, some get lucky (look at what Ozzie said about Lawrence Phillips and Brady Quinn)
So a little luck has to be there also.
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This might of been the worst year to have the draft pushed back two weeks...
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Boy, the media is like a self devouring snake. I hear all this hype on Manziel and I am not buying into it. The "it factor", "the face of the franchise" what does this crap mean? No wonder the advertising industry just pounds the commercials (Geico etc.) eventually people just give in and buy into "it".
Bridgewater is by far the best quarterback in this draft. Three years of continuous improvement and high production. Tough plays hurt. Reads defenses. Calls blocking schemes. Goes through progressions. Extremely accurate. Leader with zero character issues. Bowl game MVP's. Last game throws for over 400 yards and is the game MVP.
Now all of a sudden he is dog meat.
We shall see if the GM's are as gullible as the public.
it just took a long time for the media and fans to catch up with what everyone else thought
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