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Hoyer is the starting QB right now ...... however. depending on how the draft goes, that could change.
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HA! Another home opener loss. What is that 8 in a row?
2004 was the last opening day win and Jeff Garcia was at the helm.
Home Opener, was 2007. I don't care if we lose on the road, but when I am in the stands I want to win.
So naturally New Orleans is coming to town. 
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HA! Another home opener loss. What is that 8 in a row?
2004 was the last opening day win and Jeff Garcia was at the helm.
Home Opener, was 2007. I don't care if we lose on the road, but when I am in the stands I want to win.
So naturally New Orleans is coming to town.
So it's all about you.
Of course. lol, we're going 5-11 anyway, might as well let me feel good for one night. 
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No worries man. I feel somewhat the same way. At least start winning some home games. I think over the last 2 season I have been to 12 games and have seen maybe 3 wins. Maybe just 2 wins. I think we win 9 games and take control of this division! 
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Exactly. I can handle a 6-win season but make sure most or all of those 6 wins are at home. That really helps offset the road losses.
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HA! Another home opener loss. What is that 8 in a row?
If you see me staggering drunk going into the game you'll know why.
Yep. And losing the first game of the season is like a hard punch in the stomach.... Especially when it's the Steelers.
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HA! Another home opener loss. What is that 8 in a row?
2004 was the last opening day win and Jeff Garcia was at the helm.
Home Opener, was 2007. I don't care if we lose on the road, but when I am in the stands I want to win.
So naturally New Orleans is coming to town.
We lost the 2007 Home Opener too.
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HA! Another home opener loss. What is that 8 in a row?
2004 was the last opening day win and Jeff Garcia was at the helm.
Home Opener, was 2007. I don't care if we lose on the road, but when I am in the stands I want to win.
So naturally New Orleans is coming to town.
We lost the 2007 Home Opener too.
Damn, I thought that first game was on the road.
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LOL. Hoyer is the ONLY QB right now.. We will draft a QB (or two) and they will state that it will be an open competition for the job, I'd bet the farm on that... and my guess, Hoyer will win.
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As I said, I would too if our realistic goal this year was a deep playoff run.. but think of it this way, with our new coach and young players if we start off slow, and we might.. would you rather have to wait until week 8 to have a week off to really try to fix it or would you like the chance to try to fix it after week 3?
True, But if we start off like gang busters, win three in a row, take a week off and lose momentum... Can't see that as being a good thing either
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I'd rather see 16 teams off on week 8, and the other 16 off on week 9 as a bye-week schedule. And maybe even find a way to make which teams have it when permanent scheduling, so there is no guessing from year to year.
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The NFL released its 2014 schedule Wednesday night, confirming the dates and locations of all 256 matchups (and ending your chance to enter the St. Louis Rams’ schedule-guessing contest, even though you had no chance of winning). With the slate solidified, you can probably expect to see more of the standard strength-of-schedule analysis that averages the 2013 winning percentages of a team’s opponents. Unfortunately, those numbers aren’t especially useful, because they assume each team will be exactly as good in 2014 as it was in 2013; in reality, NFL teams vary quite a bit from season to season, and our ability to predict which ones will and won’t be good in a given year is extremely limited.
For example, going into the 2013 season, the Detroit Lions were expected to have the league’s second-hardest schedule based on the 2012 records of their opponents. So, what ended up happening? According to the strength-of-schedule component of Pro-Football-Reference’s Simple Rating System, Detroit actually had the league’s easiest slate of opponents last season.
In cases like this, a better tactic is to make regressive predictions. We can use a regression formula to predict each team’s 2014 Simple Rating from its ratings over the previous two seasons, while building in plenty of regression to the mean to reflect our limited knowledge. If we base each team’s projected 2014 strength of schedule on these regressive predictions (while also taking into account a 2.5-point home-field advantage depending on where the game is being played), we arrive at the following projected schedule strengths for 2014:
The biggest differences between our projected SOS numbers and the NFL’s official rankings center around a handful of teams in the AFC East and NFC South. The AFC East’s record was better in 2013 than it had been in 2012 — despite posting a poorer point differential – while the NFC South had a better record in 2012 than in 2013 (mainly because the Atlanta Falcons’ record declined so much in 2013).
Because the regression is looking at two years’ worth of data (albeit weighing results from 2013 about 2½ times as strongly as those from 2012), it expects Atlanta to be roughly an average team in 2014 — not the 4-12 team it’s perceived to be by the NFL’s official SOS metric — which feeds most heavily into the SOS ratings of Atlanta’s divisional foes in Carolina, Tampa Bay and New Orleans.
Meanwhile, the two-year regression is skeptical about the AFC East having as good a record in 2014 as it did in 2013. It’s not so much about the AFC East’s improved out-of-division win-loss record in 2013 (it was 22-18 outside the division in 2013, only a modest improvement over its 19-21 record in 2012), but more about the way the division’s records didn’t match up with its teams’ point differentials. According to Football Outsiders, AFC East teams’ actual wins exceeded their pythagorean wins by 3.9 victories in 2013, including 2.6 for the New York Jets alone. Research has shown that such overachievement is rarely sustainable, so our regression method would be expecting a decline for the Jets (and the division as a whole) in 2014.
Such a regression-based system is far from perfect; for example, it doesn’t even know about which players changed teams in the offseason between 2013 and 2014. (But even methods that try to account for such wrinkles do a relatively poor job of prediction compared with simple metrics like our regression.) In other words, the above SOS rankings are going to be wrong — but they’re almost certain to be a more accurate gauge of each team’s schedule difficulty in 2014 than the official rankings that only tap into last year’s records.
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All right. The table is set. We need to come out and punch Pitt right in the mouth, as hard as that may be to do. We need to just uppercut them right out of the gate. I really think that would set a huge tone for the season.
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Yeah that's crap...
What the hell do you need a bye week after 3 games for?
Stupid.
I agree....I think the NFL could shut down half the leage in week seven minus one and half in week nine, plus one.
I wish they'd just get rid of the stupid BYE week altogether. It's for pansies!
I agree. I'm not a fan of the bye week. I for one wouldn't miss it one damned bit.
Having a rookie under center is going to be tough the first part of the season. Facing the Squealers and the Saints right away? Ouch. We better have a running game ready.....
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All right. The table is set. We need to come out and punch Pitt right in the mouth, as hard as that may be to do. We need to just uppercut them right out of the gate. I really think that would set a huge tone for the season.
The only way to beat the Steelers is to hurt tiny ben. Hopefully Taylor and Rubin can slam him into oblivion and end his season. I'd love to see an "Turkey" Jones type suplex on tiny.  Turkey Jones best sack
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What you're saying may sound like wishful thinking, but coming out and proving your tougher than the Steelers makes a big impression both on the team's mentality itself as well as on the rest of the league.
We really need to put all efforts into being the tougher team and winning that game. I think that would honestly have just a huge impact.
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I thought week 17 was against your division rival, which is why they played the Steelers every week 17 when they introduced that so playoff teams wouldn't rest their starters for a meaningless game for them. I was thinking that since the Browns cant beat them that they should have the Ohio matchup week 17 and the Steelers vs Ravens for now.
Since they started doing that, this will be the first time the Browns don't play the Steelers week 17. Unless they don't do that any more.
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Actually, I love playing Pitt first game. The Browns have months to prepare for this. So much time will be focused of preparing for this win. They know how much it will mean to the city, the team, and the momentum of the season when they get this first win on the road no less. They will come back home focused and ready to take on the Saints and I predict that the Browns go into the Bye 3 - 0. I have been drinking the Browns Kool-Aid since the off-season started so I am punch drunk and hopeful beyond belief about this years team. I believe Hoyer has something to prove. He finally got his chance to start then struck down by injury. He will come back stronger and more focused than ever. The Flying J issues are in the past, Josh Gordon is good to go Day 1 and the team is due for an amazing season this year. 
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I thought we ended against a division rival in 2014 (Baltimore?). I do find it odd, though, that we close our 2013 season out in Pittsburgh and then open our 2014 season in........Pittsburgh.
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Its a great opportunity to punch the Steelers right in the mouth...
they did start the season 0-4 last year, they lost more players this year...This may be a great opportunity.
Le'Veon Bell wont be 100% in that it'll be his 1st game 2nd season, so I don't think he'll have the wheels under him really...plus Todd Haley wont know how to manage his or Blount's carries together as well...
Ben has to adjust to more new WRs...
the OL will still be learning how to gel...
We have a new QB that is all about mean...that could be GREAT for us. Come out and be mean right away. Lets get it. Best way to show mean is to beat up the bully.
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I'd rather see 16 teams off on week 8, and the other 16 off on week 9 as a bye-week schedule. And maybe even find a way to make which teams have it when permanent scheduling, so there is no guessing from year to year.
Because of the way the schedule rotates through divisions you could never make it permanent.. but I would agree with you that it should be done over just 2 or 3 weekends in the middle of the year rather than 4 teams at a time spread out over the whole middle half of the season.
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Kind of funny ESPN doesn't want golden boy Manning getting blasted on Monday night by Seattle again.
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Love your attitude, Anarchy. I want to shock and awe some of the division. And Pukesburger's chances early fall our way maybe.
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I agree. I'm not a fan of the bye week. I for one wouldn't miss it one damned bit.
I don't think anybody is except for the players, maybe some of the coaches....I assume the coaches might get a few days to sleep in past 5am.
The way I would handle the bye's is to shut down an entire conference....say the AFC... save two teams so the network who carries their games gets a solid matchup. You also shut down 2 NFC stud teams. Do this week 7 or 8...the following week you shut down the NFC expect for the two studs you shut down the pervious week.
That way all teams get their bye week as mid season as possible.
Maybe do it all in one week except for 8 teams...10 if they insist on a Thursday night game. Then you have the 1:00PM national game, the 4PM national game, Sunday and Monday might covered.
I don't really mind the bye, I think it foolish to spread it out over a long period of time.
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Love your attitude, Anarchy. I want to shock and awe some of the division. And Pukesburger's chances early fall our way maybe.
Imo if we can go 1-2/2-1 in the 1st 3 games and split the last 4 games(and we can do both) imo our season rests on the 9 games in between.
I mean, we did have a "Good Team or 4" by the short hairs last year....till we didn't.
And we lost TJ and Lauvao, and...........???
Imo we ain't that far away. The diff between playoff teams in many cases is coaching, coaching, and more coaching.
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Another 4 win season coming up. Schedule did not lay out well for us.
How so? I think we have one of the easier schedules in the NFL.
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That is the easiest schedule I can remember in awhile. We have a real shot at .500.....or better if we find a QB.
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I think our OL will struggle as they try to absorb the pure zone philosphy. We ran some zone last year and struggled with it until very late in the year, that will help but we both know Shannahan is gonna run those stretch run plays 90% of the time. the shortened training camp is gonna slow that development.
Hoyer is coming off an injury and he doesnt have a lot of experience as a starter anyway. Much can change between now and then but I was hoping for some of our easier games in those first couple of weeks.
having Bryant and Big phil healthy will be a force but how will these underachieving tweeners adapt to Pettines philosphy. Anyway I think we could be much better all the way around but end up with a similar or worse record.
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I don't think I've heard it discussed, but why does the NFL schedule a week 4 bye? I assume the main reason would be $$$ for the NFL and it's broadcasting partners? Wouldn't the best way to keep players healthy be scheduling a bye in the middle or latter part of the season?
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The first three games may be tough, but overall, that is a weak schedule. If we are any good at all............we should have a decent record.
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Love your attitude, Anarchy. I want to shock and awe some of the division. And Pukesburger's chances early fall our way maybe.
I would love to star off strong, against the "strong part" of the schedule.
If we are ever going to be a great team again, we'll have to handle the tough parts of a schedule. Might as well start this coming year.
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Yea I don't see why you couldn't shut down the two AFC and NFC divisions that are playing each other.... so this year it would be the AFC South and AFC North and the NFC East and NFC West one week, then the other 4 divisions the following week... That way everybody in your division that you are competing with to get into the playoffs is playing on the same schedule.
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Seems like it comes down to advertising dollars. If they shut down an entire division for a week, let alone two, the NFL is eliminating a large part of the market from a revenue standpoint. It would make no sense. This can be attested by the fact when the Browns are on a bye the NFL either shows Cincy, Pitt or Balt. It's not like they show a random game like San Diego vs Jacksonville, for example. Teams within the division will draw the biggest market share, thereby maximizing advertising revenue. This isn't random, it's simple business strategy.
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Seems like it comes down to advertising dollars. If they shut down an entire division for a week, let alone two, the NFL is eliminating a large part of the market from a revenue standpoint. It would make no sense. This can be attested by the fact when the Browns are on a bye the NFL either shows Cincy, Pitt or Balt. It's not like they show a random game like San Diego vs Jacksonville, for example. Teams within the division will draw the biggest market share, thereby maximizing advertising revenue. This isn't random, it's simple business strategy.
That seems kind of bogus to me. As a proponent of doing away with the BYE week altogether, it seems to me that it doesn't matter too much when a team has a BYE week.
Is there really an economic difference between one week and another? If the Browns and Bengals are on the BYE one week, and the Steelers and Ravens the following week, what is the difference than if they all had the BYE week the same week? Each team would have a week where they didn't play and the fans of those teams would have a week where their attention would be elsewhere, such as other games or household chores that need to be done.
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Bogus? Unlikely. There's a reason the nationally televised game each sunday at 4:00 is usually a matchup like Denver vs Indianapolis instead of Jacksonville vs Raiders for example. The NFL wants the maximum number of households to tune in so they can maximize ad revenue. More viewers = more ad dollars.
This goes back to my previous post on why divisional team games are shown when the local team is blacked out. It will draw the most household viewers in the market.
You certainly don't have to agree though.
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Makes sense to me. If CLE is on a bye you have a better chance of getting CLE fans to tune in and watch the Steelers play (and hopfully get smashed) compared to say Jacksonville.
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I am absolutely NOT a fan of doing away with the bye week. These guys play a violent and physically demanding game and put in 60-70+ hour weeks every week from the beginning of camp until the end of the season.. that's what, 23 weeks if you don't make the playoffs? 5 1/2 months of that schedule is just brutal so I think they are more than deserving of just one week off somewhere in the middle... which most don't get the entire week off anyway.
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Sorry if someone brought this up already. Anyway, why can't the NFL do a couple things:
1) Start the schedule with the opposite conference divisional games
2) Then play your first round of divisional games
3) Then play your conference games
4) Finish the season with the final round of divisional games
5) Why on Earth does ANY team have 3 consecutive road games? Stupid.
Not really sure how the bye weeks work as far as who gets what when but I would be in favor of having MORE teams on a bye and having LESS bye weeks so teams could have a better chance of having time off around the middle of the season.
OK...tear it up. Thanks.
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Here is Peter King's MMQB on how and why the 2014 NFL was created. Peter King Article
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