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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/28/browns-to-give-vince-young-a-look-see/Browns to give Vince Young a look-see Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2014, 10:37 AM EDT Vince YoungAP He’s back. Possibly. Maybe. Quarterback Vince Young, the third overall pick in the 2006 draft who has been out of the NFL since 2011, will participate in the Browns’ voluntary minicamp on a tryout basis this week, according to Mark Berman of FOX 26 in Houston. Young, who will take a physical on Monday, spent portions of the offseason in 2012 and 2013 with the Bills and Packers, respectively. The Browns’ interest isn’t surprising. For starters, their best options currently are Brian Hoyer, who’s recovering from a torn ACL, and Alex Tanney, who’s best known for his abilities as a trick-shot artist. Besides, owner Jimmy Haslam, a Tennessean, witnessed Young become a Pro Bowler in both 2006 and 2009 with the Titans. It makes sense for Haslam to at least raise with his football people the question of whether Young at least deserves a chance to compete with the top options currently under contract in Cleveland. Young spent 2011 with the Eagles, with his biggest contribution being the inadvertent coining of the term “dream team.” In Cleveland, the overriding objective is to end a nightmare that has lasted for nearly 20 years. -------------------------------------- Oh boy...
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Um ... err ........ well ..... he's a body anyway.  I still think that I'd rather have the trick shot kid though.
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As would I...I really hope this isn't a sign of how we value intelligent QBs....
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we certainly are doing our due diligence at the QB position. No one can say that we haven't looked at all availabilities this offseason. Whoever we decide upon will certainly be our FO's top choice.
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Since we're talking about Vince Young, I see you made your post ironically 
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IF he gets a contract, I think he's camp fodder.
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If Haslam actually had some say in this as the article seems to indicate as a possibility, I have more of an issue with that than I do Vince Young actually receiving a look see from us.
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Farmer said in the press conference that we are also bringing in Tyler Thigpen for a tryout.
We really need extra arms for minicamp. I am guessing that Hoyer is on some sort of pitch count and can't throw as much as the team would like. That leaves Tanney as the only QB who can throw without restrictions. We just need arms at camp. I would expect we sign whoever performs the best out of Thigpen and Young. I don't really care about the third string QB.
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Is this the veteran so many have been calling for?... lol
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Hopefully this falls under leave no stone unturned rather than Haslam forcing this issue on our coaching staff where they do this: 
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Well it was either these guys are Rex Grossman. The only difference is Grossman can expect an actual contract.
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This is for the fans negative reactions. Bring in enough scrubs and Grossman starts to look pretty good in comparison.
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J/C ...... whoever said that this is for an extra camp arm has it right IMHO. While Hoyer is reportedly recovering nicely, he's not going to be 100% for all of the camps. If he can't go, then we currently would have the trick shot QB, and maybe a rookie. This would give us a veteran who should be able to help, at least, run the offense to some degree,
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I think this is a really good move. As said above we need to bring in somebody to help throw during voluntary minicamp and training camp. Plus if he shows enough to stick it will lessen the burden on us to rush a rookie QB if Hoyer should get hurt again.
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It's all not bad PPE. Tyler Thigpen is being brought in too. I've mentioned him (last year) as a possiblity to be brought in and I still like him. I wouldn't mind one bit if he was offered a contract.
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The pic needs to be bigger to match what i am feeling. Tie our star to Young? Waiting for the belated "April Fool's!" 
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Man, if Tyler Thigpen is the silver lining here, we are COMPLETELY screwed, lol!
I sincerely hope that this is not indicative of this FO's idea of what a QB should be.... I'd rather bring back Weeden than either Young or Thigpen.
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I don't put any stock into the Haslam/Titans thing. I'm glad we are giving him a look. No harm done if he flops.
This might just be setting up groundwork in case we get into a midseason QB nightmare. Our "starter" is coming off ACL. There will obviously be rookies involved. We've chewed through 3-4 QBs on many years. We might need to make an emergency QB call in November or December.
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This is absolutely no indicator of how we value intelligent QBs.
It does hint at what we think of unintelligent ones, though
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Pettine is on Cleveland Browns Daily and when asked about bringing in Young and Thigpen he basically said they needed some bodies for the upcoming camp and that Hoyer has just now been cleared to participate 7 on 7s.
Pettine stated one of the reasons they brought in Young was because of Dowell Loggins experience with him during his time with the Titans.
I doubt either of these guys stick around long term.
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Pettine is on Cleveland Browns Daily and when asked about bringing in Young and Thigpen he basically said they needed some bodies for the upcoming camp and that Hoyer has just now been cleared to participate 7 on 7s.
Pettine stated one of the reasons they brought in Young was because of Dowell Loggins experience with him during his time with the Titans.
I doubt either of these guys stick around long term.
This makes me feel better about it.
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For all the laughs he generates, Young's win/loss record as an NFL QB is something like 30-20.
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I don't understand the hate for Vince Young. The guy was the Madden '08 cover athlete, he's good. I just wish the Browns would get Peyton Hillis back into the fold so they could have TWO Madden cover athletes on their team. Hillis and Young = superstars and would undoubtedly lead this franchise to the elusive promise land.
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I don't understand the hate for Vince Young. The guy was the Madden '08 cover athlete, he's good. I just wish the Browns would get Peyton Hillis back into the fold so they could have TWO Madden cover athletes on their team. Hillis and Young = superstars and would undoubtedly lead this franchise to the elusive promise land.
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Time... we only have so many people and between the draft and FA and our existing roster, we don't need people taking time to evaluate a bunch of guys who have a 1/1000 chance of even making the team.
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I don't understand the hate for Vince Young. The guy was the Madden '08 cover athlete, he's good. I just wish the Browns would get Peyton Hillis back into the fold so they could have TWO Madden cover athletes on their team. Hillis and Young = superstars and would undoubtedly lead this franchise to the elusive promise land.
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For all the laughs he generates, Young's win/loss record as an NFL QB is something like 30-20.
Young made 50 starts between 2006 and 2011. He completed 57.9 percent of his passes with 46 touchdowns and 51 interceptions. He is 31-19 as a starter and twice made the Pro Bowl.
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This ^ is what i think too. As a franchise QB no way, as a vet backup (not a training QB-just a backup) for league minimum he might work. Nothing bad can come of it unless we pass on someone good to keep him.
Would you have taken him as a 7th round draft choice the year he came out of school? I would have. As a free agent definitely. So try him, even if it's to see how his style matches the coaches style if they want to draft somebody similar to him next year...
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I know I am going to get ALOT of flack over this, but I for one am glad we are bringing in both these guys. They are a better proven product than any QB we currently have on the team.
PS. Yeah I am not sold on Hoyer, watch the two games he played last year, he really isn't that good. Hope he proves me wrong though.
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This ^ is what i think too. As a franchise QB no way, as a vet backup (not a training QB-just a backup) for league minimum he might work. Nothing bad can come of it unless we pass on someone good to keep him.
Would you have taken him as a 7th round draft choice the year he came out of school? I would have. As a free agent definitely. So try him, even if it's to see how his style matches the coaches style if they want to draft somebody similar to him next year...
If it doesnt work, let him go. End of Story.
Sometimes a QB elevates his team, and sometimes his team helps him from dragging them down.
The Titans went 8-8 in Young's rookie season. He threw 12 TD and 13 INT.
They went 10-6 in his sophomore season, when he threw 9 TD and 17 NT. Their defense was top 10, though, and saved them.
In Young's 3rd season, he only played part of 3 games.
In 2009, 10 TD, 7 INT, hardly an impact at all. In 12 games, 10 starts, he had 1800 yards passing. That is nothing in the NFL.
In 2010? 10 games, 1200 or so yards, 10 TD, 3 INT, good overall spread on TD to INT, but not a difference maker at all for that team.
He then moved on to the Eagles, and started 3 games, and threw 4 TD and 9 INT. Ouch,
This is a guy who can do some things as long as he is very, very, very, very, very carefully managed, and is not expected to put a team on his shoulders and carry them ..... or really, not even on his big toe. He is not a guy who makes a difference for a team. The Titans largely won in spite if him, not because of him.
Think about this ..... in 50 starts, he threw for 8964 yards. That is an average of 180 yards/game, if you don't take out yards from games he appeared in but did not start. he threw 46 TD and 51 INT. That is less than a TD per game, and mroe than an INT per game.
I remember seeing him play, and he would heave passes up, and hope that his receivers could either make a catch, or play DB really well. He had no feel for pressure in the pocket. His accuracy was atrocious. He could run a little bit, but that's not what his job was.
I have nothing against bringing him in as a camp arm ..... but those expecting anything much other than that from him are setting themselves up for disappointment. His record is not a reflection of his talent, but rather being able to hand off to guys like Travis Henry, LenDale White, Chris Brown, and Chris Johnson, to shorten the game, while letting the defense win the game. They had 1 winning seasons with Young, Their other winning season during that time was when he was benched for Kerry Collins) and in that winning season, his contribution was 9 TD and 17 INT. Yea. Camp arm ... sure ...... but that's it. He is a lousy QB. I would keep a late round QB over him. At least that guy might have potential of being just bad.
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Already seeing junk on Facebook about people wondering why we'd bring in Young, but not Tebow.
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Pettine is on Cleveland Browns Daily and when asked about bringing in Young and Thigpen he basically said they needed some bodies for the upcoming camp and that Hoyer has just now been cleared to participate 7 on 7s.
Pettine stated one of the reasons they brought in Young was because of Dowell Loggins experience with him during his time with the Titans.
I doubt either of these guys stick around long term.
This makes me feel better about it.
There you go....a QB coach getting his old QB a tryout.....no big deal. Vince had a few good years, we need a few extra arms, and who knows? It doesn't hurt anything to have Vince Young toss the ball around for 2-3 days.
If he looks decent enough, it isn't going to hurt a thing to bring him in to camp.
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Without over analyzing the situation, both of these signings are good sensible pickups with little downside. Neither of these effect the team's approach to the draft in the least, so what are we talking about? 
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They are bringing them in for tryouts, not signing them.
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Without over analyzing the situation, both of these signings are good sensible pickups with little downside. Neither of these effect the team's approach to the draft in the least, so what are we talking about?
I agree with this statement. Vince Young wouldn't be bad to look at as a veteran presence that has a decent career win loss record. Plus, he's a competitor that deserves the opportunity.
I'd take a 30 year old VY over a 30 year old Brandon Weeden.
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