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If they are both on the team in September we're in serious trouble.
What if neither guy plays a snap in the regular season?
I would take that as to mean for some reason we're carrying 4 QBs...
Because theres no way we don't draft one somewhere...
and the guy we drafted is on practice squad. yea sounds like trouble to me.
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They probably want four guys until Hoyer is ready to participate fully. Once Hoyer is 100% one of Tanney, Young, or Thigpen will be cut.
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I think 2 of those 3 will be cut.
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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That is entirely possible.
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Any word on how the trick shot artist is doing?
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Any word on how the trick shot artist is doing?
Probably not as good as he was before camp started...
Oh you meant play wise..
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The Cleveland Browns have reached a deal with QB Tyler Thigpen after a workout with the team, per Jason LaCanfora. The team also worked out Vince Young during the work outs and decided to sign him to a contract as well. Both of the quarterbacks will compete for a roster spot during training camp and the preseason.
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I don't know about signing both of them... someone is going to get cut I am assuming, or we aren't going to draft a QB and like Tanney as developmental project (which means they love Hoyer) or?
Signing both them isn't registering in my brain...
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Both are on one year deals I believe......in other words both could be cut tomorrow and it means nothing. I don't believe you will se both on the opening roster, but they need someone to throw balls while Hoyer is hurt, and they also need a number 2/3 QB. The winner of this battle makes the team and the loser and Tanney go home.
We will draft a QB high (rounds 1/2) no matter what, and this doesn't change that imo. What it does mean is that Tanney is as good as unemployed imo.
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Both are on one year deals I believe......in other words both could be cut tomorrow and it means nothing. I don't believe you will se both on the opening roster, but they need someone to throw balls while Hoyer is hurt, and they also need a number 2/3 QB. The winner of this battle makes the team and the loser and Tanney go home.
We will draft a QB high (rounds 1/2) no matter what, and this doesn't change that imo. What it does mean is that Tanney is as good as unemployed imo.
Don't be shocked if the Browns trade down a spot or two..there are some rumors out there about several teams , Atlanta , Buffalo that want to move up.
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I am beginning to think that Farmer and Pettine are idiots.
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I am beginning to think that Farmer and Pettine are idiots.
Of course, because if they do something YOU do not like. That means THEY don't know what they're doing...
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Of course, I am not allowed to express my opinion on a message board. Why bother?
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If your opinion is that anyone that does something you don't like is stupid. Then your opinion is stupid. That's MY opinion.
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If your opinion is that anyone that does something you don't like is stupid.
Then your opinion is stupid.
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Do not do that to him. He is a national treasure. Much like these two. 
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If your opinion is that anyone that does something you don't like is stupid.
Then your opinion is stupid.
That's MY opinion.
Put your floppy pickle away. It makes you look stupid. 
The signing's pointless, and can't possibly help us.
If you think otherwise, fine. Tell us why and how signing Vince Young helps our team.
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Any word on how the trick shot artist is doing?
Well, he's never flipped an underhand INT in an absolute panic.
So, better than last year's usual starter ...
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Any word on how the trick shot artist is doing?
Well, he's never flipped an underhand INT in an absolute panic.
So, better than last year's usual starter ...
I think the floppy pickle would have been better than last year's usual starter...
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If your opinion is that anyone that does something you don't like is stupid.
Then your opinion is stupid.
That's MY opinion.
Put your floppy pickle away. It makes you look stupid.
The signing's pointless, and can't possibly help us.
If you think otherwise, fine. Tell us why and how signing Vince Young helps our team.
Well, we need camp arms. So we were going to sign SOMEONE. So why not sign a guy that I don't know, has been an NFL starter and won games?
It's obviously not "pointless" and I could easily say that you'd probably assume the Rams signing some Grocery Store clerk back in 98 was pointless..
But then you'd assume I'm comparing Young to him. And I'm not. I'm just saying that to say it's pointless is shrewd. It's a NO RISK, signing. Because if at any point Young (if he's even still on the team by then) has to play in a game. We're probably not doing so well anyways. And who knows he might do something with it.
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I have no problem with Vince Young.
Yep, he has had some issues in the past. However, we aren't bringing him in to be the face of the franchise or be a team leader. We are looking at him to be a back-up QB.
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...The signing's pointless, and can't possibly help us.
If you think otherwise, fine. Tell us why and how signing Vince Young helps our team.
Could be because Brian Hoyer is still not certain for training camp and we don't want a punter or a trick shot guy throwing passes.
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I have no problem with Vince Young.
Yep, he has had some issues in the past. However, we aren't bringing him in to be the face of the franchise or be a team leader. We are looking at him to be a back-up QB.
I agree. We should look everywhere for players to help our cause. If Vince makes the cut and becomes a starter I will worry. For now its just a body to help in camp and practice.
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I am beginning to think that Farmer and Pettine are idiots.
Signing a couple camp arms that won't make it through August is going to doom this franchise, I agree.
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I am beginning to think that Farmer and Pettine are idiots.
Signing a couple camp arms that won't make it through August is going to doom this franchise, I agree.
Purple, please...
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Just for the record...I can't read it...might as well pick the Black Font color...lol 
Young...need someone to throw and knows the NFL somewhat even if by Osmosis.
Right now Hoyer is only cleared for 7 on 7 drills. Which leaves those 11 on 11s.
Also when Training camp starts and hitting. Hey our DE's Rush OLB need to get some practice in so if they get a little agressive they will be hitting Young not Hoyer
The kid most definitely has a checkered past. If he shows no ability to come close to his potential - Again. He simply will be cut. If he has matured and turned over a new leaf - hey you never know, possibly a back up improving on Campbell.
We are going to have a lot of WRs, RBs and TEs needing work with a QB.
Assessing who is wise or dumb should have some reflection possibly on who is on the roster the beginning of Sept.
A possible Cancer, I think not. Actually it could be a good case in point for the youth. Obviously Young has some physical talents that will show up in practices. But if Young does not work hard on the side or study hard in the class rooms. He will definitely be cut. It will be good for the youth to see that. As in wow, he was so talented but got cut...I want this work and will hit those books hard!
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I'm kinda a firm believer in the fact that your backup should be mobile.
If your QB is hurt, there is an over 50% chance that he got hurt because the OL didn't do a good enough job, or the WRs didn't do a good enough job getting open (the other percentage is a Hoyer scramble type injury) so having a mobile backup is beneficial. Escape the pressure that apparently got ur guy killed, or be able to pickup some yards with your feet in case ur WRs don't get open...
VY fits that bill. And I get this feeling that he has learned from his mistakes...and whether he wants an NFL job because he loves the game or needs a steady paycheck...well, it should be motivation enough.
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Or doesn't know how to Slide... 
As for Young...only time will tell.
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I am beginning to think that Farmer and Pettine are idiots.
Signing a couple camp arms that won't make it through August is going to doom this franchise, I agree.
Purple, please...
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My opinion is that Vince Young was a former first round pick who was out of the NFL the last two years because he has issues. He quit on his team. Fisher said it was either him or me. You don't go from being a first round pick who had the world by the tail to out of the league for no reason.
But, keeping making fun of people w/opposing opinions. It wins you points. Well done.
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agree with what you stated above, but in no way do I think Young was brought here to be a serious candidate at QB. He and Thigpen are both similar in that they are mobile. It seems to me that the playbook is going to move the pocket and rely on the QB to make plays other than just dropping back in the pocket.
The way I see it, Young was brought in to be a guy who can run the offense in camp. He is familiar with Loggains and can help transitioning the offense in some ways. The one year contract tells me that they aren't seriously thinking he can become a good QB again. That ship has sailed.
I truly believe that Farmer is going to take two QBs in this draft if possible, and I like that idea. But, if they don't draft one in the first round or at the top of the second, I will have to conclude that they just might be idiots.
I don't believe any of the QBs are sure things in this draft or any. Yes there were some exceptions over the years, but very few. With the high picks we have, IMO it would be assinine not to take a chance on one of the top guys.
I still want Teddy. I like yourself crave a cerebral QB for a change. He has the mind to run an offense and can read defenses. I don't care about his build. Draft some guys to protect him. If he is gone give me Manzeil, and again draft players to protect him..
I like guys like Watkins, but if they draft Robinson I will become a true believer in this FO. Screw the talk about too many high paid lineman. To have and keep a franchise QB, you must keep him upright. That being said, if they would draft Robinson or even Mathews, tey better damnsite draft a QB with their next pick. I don't want third round projects, the time to make a move for the best QB available is now. If he fails, do it again next year. This team will never compete until it is done.
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But, keeping making fun of people w/opposing opinions. It wins you points. Well done.
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More than that, he is a healthy former 1st round pick, who couldn't even grab a backup role last year. (and he was only 29 last year)
That says a ton about how he is seen in the league.
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My opinion is that Vince Young was a former first round pick who was out of the NFL the last two years because he has issues. He quit on his team. Fisher said it was either him or me. You don't go from being a first round pick who had the world by the tail to out of the league for no reason.
those are all facts, not opinion. you can also add in that he lost out on the backup QB jobs in Green Bay last summer to Seneca Wallace and Scott Tolzien.
regardless of those facts, my opinion is that it doesn't make Farmer stupid to sign him. if, at any point, there is any issue, he simply tells Vince to go back home to his steakhouse. honestly, he could sign someone off this board to be the QB that throws things around and it wouldn't be stupid. it's an OTA/camp-arm. that's all (and it might be genius --- every year leave 1 roster spot open to a Browns fan to be part of the team. you get to wear the red jersey for liability reasons but you get a certificate stating you were on the team! I love it. Get it done Scheiner/Farmer!).
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I don't want a certificate, I want 3 years at $2.5 million a year. 
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I don't want a certificate, I want 3 years at $2.5 million a year.
ok, can you long-snap?
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I don't want a certificate, I want 3 years at $2.5 million a year.
ok, can you long-nap?
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...And Vince Young's time in Cleveland has come to an end.....Tanney too.
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