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Just look at Pettine. He scratched and clawed his way to becoming a NFL head coach. He left a pretty good job to become an intern and get paid next to nothing.
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For the first time in a long time I think other teams will be looking to pick up RB's that we cut, and thats a good thing 
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I don't think that Fozzy has been signed yet. I don't know if Ogbonnaya is going to get any calls. Edwin Baker or Dion Lewis probably would have the best shots.
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I don't think that Fozzy has been signed yet. I don't know if Ogbonnaya is going to get any calls. Edwin Baker or Dion Lewis probably would have the best shots.
Yeah, while we've upgraded the position, I can't see many of them finding jobs. Maybe Obi...
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1. Actually I thought we picked up West right where a solid RB should be taken...especially this draft where none went in the first.
2. Right now its going to be Tate, West & Lewis...an amazing 3 if you ask me.
3. Our entire offensive flow is going to be predicated on the RUN!
4. Rainey did nothing for us here...he went to a team that was committed to the run!
5. West needs a FB...I think we got a couple of candidates for slobber knocker.
6. Oby, Baker n Crowell...got to make special teams or not be on our roster!
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I really like this player, excellent pick!!!
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Re-watched the NDSU/Towson game last night clearing out my DVR. Man that was such a terrible field. West kind of struggled that game to get anything going. NDSU was such a buzzsaw in the FCS last year.
I like West, but I can't understand trading up into the third for him with all the guys that were still available at the position. Hopefully he proves it to be a good move.
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Ozzie almost got him. We just beat him to West. Small-school Terrance West does not lack for confidence in joining Cleveland Browns | cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss...t_river_defaultBEREA, Ohio – As the third round of the 2014 NFL Draft unfurled, Terrance West discovered just how close he was to playing for his hometown team. The Baltimore Ravens held the No. 99 pick and representatives from the club were in contact with the agent of the prolific small-college halfback, according to West. "They texted my agent and told him they were going to take me," he said Saturday at rookie minicamp. "The Browns came up before them and I'm here now. It's all about the Browns, man." General Manager Ray Farmer sent a fourth- and sixth-round pick to San Francisco to trade up to No. 94 overall for the Towson University product. The sturdy 5-foot-9, 225-pound back could form an effective tandem with Ben Tate under offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, who helped transform obscure Alfred Morris into a Pro Bowler in Washington. Tate, acquired in free agency, and West should improve a running attack that was tied for 27th in the NFL last season (86.4 yards). "I think we can be powerful," said of the combination. "We're both strong, physical and we get yardage. We take (bad) plays and we make (good) plays out of (them). That's what we do -- and we have great vision." West rushed for 4,849 yards and an outrageous 84 touchdowns in three seasons at Towson, located in Baltimore County, Md. The small-college competition certainly plays a role in those totals, but West is confident he can play at the NFL level. Asked if he were a between-the-tackles runner, West replied: "Whatever the play is I will make the best out of (it). I can do it all." He said his legs remain fresh despite 802 college carries. "I'm good, I'm ready to go," said West, who trained at the IMG Academy in Bradenton, Fla., after college. "I'm good. I haven't taken a break yet. I'm healthy, ready to go. "Football is football. Some of the greatest players to ever play the game played at small schools. It's about who wants it the most." The Browns made their draft picks available to the media Saturday. Naturally, each was quizzed about Johnny Manziel. "Amazing," West said. "He's Manziel, right? Everybody knows Johnny Manziel. He makes plays, he makes big plays." If Manziel becomes the starting QB as many expect, West believes his mobility will aid him and the other running backs. Robert Griffin III has had that kind of impact on Morris, who's rushed for 2,888 yards in two seasons. "(Manziel) can put a lot of pressure on a defense so they can't just key on a running back," he said. West, who grew up a Jamal Lewis fan, said he's just fine with the Browns trading up to snatch him from his favorite team. "It didn't really matter," he said. "I'm looking forward to (playing the Ravens twice a season). Can't wait (but) I'm going to look at every game as the same. ... We have a goal and that's to win a championship."
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My only fear is that Townson drove him in to the damn ground. I might be wrong, but 413 carries is freaking insane. He had 802 total carries and he only played 3 years. It's a good thing he did leave. He put up monster stats and is probably one of the GOAT in FBS division history, but man... He's gotta have a lot of bumps and bruises.
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My only fear is that Townson drove him in to the damn ground. I might be wrong, but 413 carries is freaking insane. He had 802 total carries and he only played 3 years. It's a good thing he did leave. He put up monster stats and is probably one of the GOAT in FBS division history, but man... He's gotta have a lot of bumps and bruises.
At 5'9, 225# he can probably take a lot. Adrian Peterson carried the ball almost 750 times n 3 years at Oklahoma. He's carried more than 2000 more times in the NFL.
I'm not comparing production at the NFL level, just the amount of carries that Peterson has had against those that West has had at the college level and how Peterson has done at the NFL.
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From most of what I watch, his comments of "If there's a big blow, I'm giving the blow; I don't take it." seem fairly accurate.
+ 1 on everything else you said though.
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I'm an idiot, wanted to come in and post some input bout him and only ended up replying about to one comment lol. Watched some video of this kid. For 225 pounds, he moves like a feather in the wind when needed to juke or whatever. He makes people miss often. Catches the ball very well.
To be honest here, I think he could (again, if there's legit competition) compete for #1.
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From most of what I watch, his comments of "If there's a big blow, I'm giving the blow; I don't take it." seem fairly accurate.
+ 1 on everything else you said though.
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I'm an idiot, wanted to come in and post some input bout him and only ended up replying about to one comment lol. Watched some video of this kid. For 225 pounds, he moves like a feather in the wind when needed to juke or whatever. He makes people miss often. Catches the ball very well.
To be honest here, I think he could (again, if there's legit competition) compete for #1.
He really does remind me of the Bus, Jerome Bettis. He is a big guy, with huge thighs, yet who is almost graceful and nimble on his feet. I hope we get similar results to those the Steelers got from Bettis. 
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Some were questioning all the trading up Farmer did during the draft...whether Farmer may have overreacted to rumors of teams moving up to draft players the Browns targeted...thus wasting some of our picks.
...well, now we have an example of the "rumors" Farmer was reacting to and maybe some better understand the trades Farmer made to get the guys the Browns wanted.
Looks like Farmer had a good source of info about a specific team that was waiting to draft West.
I believe Farmer did a good job for the Browns in his very first draft.
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Some were questioning all the trading up Farmer did during the draft...whether Farmer may have overreacted to rumors of teams moving up to draft players the Browns targeted...thus wasting some of our picks.
...well, now we have an example of the "rumors" Farmer was reacting to and maybe some better understand the trades Farmer made to get the guys the Browns wanted.
Looks like Farmer had a good source of info about a specific team that was waiting to draft West.
I believe Farmer did a good job for the Browns in his very first draft.
And he used picks you blew a gasket over acquiring last draft.
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I agree Mac.....and I never expected we were going to draft 10 players. Use some picks to trade up and select players who are going to make you better.
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From most of what I watch, his comments of "If there's a big blow, I'm giving the blow; I don't take it." seem fairly accurate.
+ 1 on everything else you said though.
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I'm an idiot, wanted to come in and post some input bout him and only ended up replying about to one comment lol. Watched some video of this kid. For 225 pounds, he moves like a feather in the wind when needed to juke or whatever. He makes people miss often. Catches the ball very well.
To be honest here, I think he could (again, if there's legit competition) compete for #1.
I think he could be the primary ball carrier in a year or two. Remember, Tate's contract is only a two year deal. He may get the bulk of the carries this year, maybe even next, but West will certainly give him a run for his money.
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Just by the eye test (and again, what do I know) I'd rather have West than Richardson ... probably by a long shot
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I would prefer West to Richardson. To be honest, I probably prefer him to Tate but I don't mind if Tate is the primary back right now.
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Some were questioning all the trading up Farmer did during the draft...whether Farmer may have overreacted to rumors of teams moving up to draft players the Browns targeted...thus wasting some of our picks.
...well, now we have an example of the "rumors" Farmer was reacting to and maybe some better understand the trades Farmer made to get the guys the Browns wanted.
Looks like Farmer had a good source of info about a specific team that was waiting to draft West.
I believe Farmer did a good job for the Browns in his very first draft.
And he used picks you blew a gasket over acquiring last draft.
Sharmarko Thomas somehow missed the Pro Bowl this year.
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Looking at this dude in the videos of practice on the CB website - he looks thick. I am seriously beginning to drool over the thought of Kyle's "could-be" run attack. We are talking about big backs in West and Tate, each capable IMO of taking the it the distance if given daylight. Hardcore and brutal on ANY defense the game has to offer is a good run game. It will soooo greatly aide in our passing game too. I think Kyle's scheme could be great for these one-cut and go backs we have.
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Agreed. I just hope our O-Line can effectively run the scheme.
A solid running game this year could really take a load of the back of an offense lacking a star WR due to suspension.
It seems like we try to run the ball all the time, and the last guy to really do it effectively was Peyton Hillis (who dropped off at the end of the season that year). Him and Jamal Lewis, who played well for one season. But still, that was a solid O-Line with two receivers having seasons of their career and Jamal playing with something a serious fire in him.
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I think you over value Gordon...or probably more on point undervalue some of the other guys.
I like Armstrong. I think he will have a big year.
Forget Gordon.
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From what I have read and heard, Marquise Gray is being looked at...as a TE, FB. Pettine was saying in this O-line system, you don't really have or need the slobber knocker type you envision...the blocking is more like that a TE does. It also doesn't tip your hand as to what type of play you might run.
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From what I have read and heard, Marquise Gray is being looked at...as a TE, FB. Pettine was saying in this O-line system, you don't really have or need the slobber knocker type you envision...the blocking is more like that a TE does. It also doesn't tip your hand as to what type of play you might run.
I'm not onboard with this one. I'd like a solid fullback. Our two best seasons running the ball (Jamal Lewis and Peyton Hillis) had Terrell Smith and Lawrence Vickers as FB, I think.
I know you feel that that position can be filled by a guard (i imagine a quick one), but I haven't seen it.
I can't really remember how Alex Smith did at FB when we sort of did the same thing with him.
And I'd imagine they'll have an idea when we line up. Just not when we're in the huddle.
EDIT: Beyond Cameron and Hawkins, I just don't have much faith in the receivers. May be Austin and Burleson will have great comeback seasons. Maybe a UDFA will catch on, but that's just so rare. Undoubtably adding Gordon to the mix would make us much better. There's no denying that.
It's not like I want a knee jerk panic reaction, but someone else on the outside would be a real help.
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From what I have read and heard, Marquise Gray is being looked at...as a TE, FB. Pettine was saying in this O-line system, you don't really have or need the slobber knocker type you envision...the blocking is more like that a TE does. It also doesn't tip your hand as to what type of play you might run.
I've heard Gray is taking a shot at FB as well, I wish him the best, and hope it all works out.
However, we've played this game before... punting someone that fits a true FB mold and throw someone like Oby back there who did an absolute horrible job. It was a failed project that shouldn't have even been considered, IMO. Now, this doesn't mean Gray will fail, but if we are looking at having a FB used consistently, why not get a REAL one is all I'm saying.
I expect we will be running the ball a ton this year. I understand we are in a zone blocking scheme and I won't even pretend to know what that means for the FB position/role/ responsibility....I just don't want another project if the FB will be a decent factor in this running attack. If it won't be, fine. I just don't want another FB situation like last year that clearly failed.
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Gray's legs are enormous. They look huge even compared to linemen. I am really pulling for that kids, he was a play maker in college.
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Yeah, I met the guy last month and he is one stout dude. Taller than I thought as well. Again, I hope it works out for him. But I won't hold my breath.
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Great to have the board working again. Thanks Purple!
Those who are concerned about Gray at Fullback something I read yesterday in an ABJ article is worth noting. Shanahan's ZBS extends to the FB in the run game. In other words this offense does not require the FB to make sloberknocker blocks.
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Thanks for the link. I noted a few other things that she tweeted - one interesting thing is that Gilkey is in the mix for starting guard.
Personally, I think that he's 5 times the better player than Schwarz. My guess is that Bitonio moves out to RT and Gilkey could secure one guard spot and that Greco secures the other one.
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Thanks for the link. I noted a few other things that she tweeted - one interesting thing is that Gilkey is in the mix for starting guard.
Personally, I think that he's 5 times the better player than Schwarz. My guess is that Bitonio moves out to RT and Gilkey could secure one guard spot and that Greco secures the other one.
I'd say there's little to no chance that Bitonio starts the season at RT.
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Yeah, I think that Pettine has even said that Bitonio will be at Guard.
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Congratulations to Terrence West, I for one look forward to him playing "as a Brown"
This guy has stud written all over him, lets see how it translates to the field when they put the pads on.
Our run game will be night & day from last year. It will help bring the attitude on both sides of the ball.
I haven't seen any of the undrafted Cromwell guy, but from what I have read he could be the real deal too. This should allow Ben Tate to really showcase to keep these guys off the field. You can't have too many good running backs anymore in the league.
The Browns apparently got allot better in this regard.
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Pettine can't know that at this point.
I don't know if that's what he said, but he's been working exclusively at guard.. but it's early.
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