so just to rehash, grossi said we should here something from the nfl any minute now, he was actually saying that last week. He was saing on TRBS, he expects to hear something by friday. Im not sure what significance this Friday has, but he also said if he isnt suspended at all, the NFL will say nothing.
I wonder how long before grossi feels confident the NFL would have ruled and suspended him, otherwise he wont be suspended. This friday, July, August, September? darn this waiting game
Quote: You don't have to take my word on it. Try reading a medical study on the usuage of pot. A real one and not a newspaper or magazine article. Here is a link to one if you can handle reading it:
Time to let the smoke clear and to wake up people. Pot destroys your brain.
lol, a medical study written by European Professors from Winter 1997-1998? That's what you're coming with?
As someone who has smoked a good deal (and doesn't smoke anymore), I will say this. Like alcohol, in moderation, it is fine. In excess it definitely affects your brain. The same can be said for alcohol
Quote: You don't have to take my word on it. Try reading a medical study on the usuage of pot. A real one and not a newspaper or magazine article. Here is a link to one if you can handle reading it:
Time to let the smoke clear and to wake up people. Pot destroys your brain.
lol, a medical study written by European Professors from Winter 1997-1998? That's what you're coming with?
As someone who has smoked a good deal (and doesn't smoke anymore), I will say this. Like alcohol, in moderation, it is fine. In excess it definitely affects your brain. The same can be said for alcohol
so why did you quit?
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
Regular random drug testing at work. The rules are the rules, and I took the job. That's one of the conditions to my employment.
same thing gordon should have done. tell me. no benefits from stoping?
More cash in your pocket, less anxiety about going out in public (there is a stigma that all pot smokers are losers) but I mostly only smoked when I knew I was in for the night. Other than that, I smoked just about every day for over a decade and I was more productive then than I am now drinking twice a week. Granted age plays some factor in that, but it was true for me.
Every day, and I mean every single day multiple times a day on weekends for over a decade and every day I am amazed at how stupid other people are. Please tell me more about cognitive ability.
Quote: this just isn't a big deal to me.. he was said to be loafing last year also, then in 14 games, he ended up being the leagues best receiver..
Hell he looks like he's loafing in games with the ball in his hands.. then you realize he's still running away from defenders... Now I don't know if he's loafing or not and if he is I don't know if it has anything to do with his pot smoking or not... but he is one of the smoothest most effortless looking runners I've ever seen.. so I can see why people might think he's loafing even when he's not.
And if he is loafing, I would suspect it has more to do with the fact that he has resigned himself to the fact that he's going to be sitting out this year so "what's the point" more than it has to do with his pot.
Quote: That's a very funny stereotype. Bankers, lawyers and many successful, motivated people smoke weed. If people actually knew all of the very successful, motivated people who smoke weed, such absurd comments would not be made.
I'm sure their are many successful pot users. But bankers and lawyers aren't exactly running up and down a field all day long, are they? Big difference.
When I was a teen, I was on cross country. First year of it was fun, but the second year I had started smoking pot several months earlier. It was LOT harder to run. After the second year that was that. Kept smoking, quit running. De-motivated.
I am also a recovering drug addict, 17 plus years clean & sober. I smoked pot for years, over a decade. An obvious pothead. I know what the sheer physicality of trying to run for a few hours a day is like when you like to smoke pot all too much. With that in mind, there is nothing absurd about my comment.
But you can believe what you want.
That has nothing to do with what you initially said that I replied to.
Quote: P.S. I've heard this before about him. After years and years of smoking pot, it tends to burn one out (lack of motivation).... That just might just be the reason, or at least one of them.
Now if you wish to change that into it taking a toll on your lungs and making running more difficult, that's a different conversation.
That is exactly what I was trying to imply, plus whatever else I said (I can't remember!) You know what my memory loss is from! It's my one regret in life.
Quote: This guy talks like pot is some quality pain medicine.
BS
I smoked daily for 15 years when I was much younger and I don't remember any pain relieving quality at all. (I know, before someone else says it: smoking everyday for 15 years it's a wonder I remember anything hahaha).
But seriously, has anyone who's smoked pot noticed any pain relieving aspect to it at all?!
It might take your mind off of it but the guy in this article talks like it's a viable alternative to narcotic pain relievers and that's just a load of crap.
Personally, I think it should be legalized. Plenty of people get a relaxing buzz from alcohol when their workday is done. Me, I didn't like being drunk. So I smoked a little weed for the same effect.
I agree with everything the author says other than equating it with a narcotic pain reliever.
Yea, in all my years of smoking it, I never thought it relieved pain either.
Quote: And that's different than the NFL how, exactly?
No difference at all. Whether the rule is crappy or not, the consequences are clear. I understand the consequences, I don't like the trade off, so I follow the rules.
Gordon either A) Doesn't see it that way and is willing to take the consequences so that he can keep smoking or B) Doesn't have the will that I (and I suspect, many folks) have who must undergo testing. You can definitely get "addicted" to pot. The same way you can to many different things.
Doesn't change the fact that the punishment is severe for something minor, and you'll probably have Josh Gordon suspended for a season for continuously smoking pot and mixing some cough syrup with some juice, while Ray Rice will face a much lesser punishment for punching his wife, and Jim Irsay (who is driving completely inebriated, on mixed prescription meds) will get off with nothing, which really puts Donald Sterlings situation in some perspective.
But hey, Gordon's punishment is his punishment. He knew what it was. It's very clear. And that's all his fault. Doesn't mean I can't hope the NFL goes easy on him
Quote: same thing gordon should have done. tell me. no benefits from stoping?
I have a well paying job that I enjoy Otherwise, not that much. I guess you could say my mind is clearer, and I'm sharper. But I was a very heavy user. And that's my own decision to make (whether I want a "clear" head or not). If I'm not hurting anyone, and I'm able to provide for myself, who is the government to tell me what to do.
I don't see it as much different than drinking some alcohol.
Quote: You can definitely get "addicted" to pot. The same way you can to many different things.
When I smoked daily I considered myself addicted. But I found when things dried up and there was none to be found, (which happened a couple of times in all those years), after a week of not having any I found myself wondering why I ever smoked it in the first place.
Then I'd find some dope, take a hit and go, "Oh, yeah, that's why!" hahaha
Quote: This guy talks like pot is some quality pain medicine.
BS
I smoked daily for 15 years when I was much younger and I don't remember any pain relieving quality at all. (I know, before someone else says it: smoking everyday for 15 years it's a wonder I remember anything hahaha).
But seriously, has anyone who's smoked pot noticed any pain relieving aspect to it at all?!
It might take your mind off of it but the guy in this article talks like it's a viable alternative to narcotic pain relievers and that's just a load of crap.
Personally, I think it should be legalized. Plenty of people get a relaxing buzz from alcohol when their workday is done. Me, I didn't like being drunk. So I smoked a little weed for the same effect.
I agree with everything the author says other than equating it with a narcotic pain reliever.
Yea, in all my years of smoking it, I never thought it relieved pain either.
After about 15 kidney stone "attacks" a friend suggested it once... The "cure" for a kidney stone is pain meds - then your tube stops spasms and allows the stone to travel. You usually pace the floor waiting 45 minutes for vicodin to take hold and/or head to the ER.
Marijuana starts working within 5 seconds and kills nearly all of the pain within 90 seconds. You still need to take a vic because MJ only lasts about an hour, usually not long enough to get the job done. I never gave it much thought until I tried... If you've ever had a stone - you know that it is like somebody sticking a bayonet through your abdomen. In this regard I consider it a miracle drug lol. It's worked like a charm every time I've tried it.
Quote: This guy talks like pot is some quality pain medicine.
BS
I smoked daily for 15 years when I was much younger and I don't remember any pain relieving quality at all. (I know, before someone else says it: smoking everyday for 15 years it's a wonder I remember anything hahaha).
But seriously, has anyone who's smoked pot noticed any pain relieving aspect to it at all?!
It might take your mind off of it but the guy in this article talks like it's a viable alternative to narcotic pain relievers and that's just a load of crap.
Personally, I think it should be legalized. Plenty of people get a relaxing buzz from alcohol when their workday is done. Me, I didn't like being drunk. So I smoked a little weed for the same effect.
I agree with everything the author says other than equating it with a narcotic pain reliever.
Yea, in all my years of smoking it, I never thought it relieved pain either.
After about 15 kidney stone "attacks" a friend suggested it once... The "cure" for a kidney stone is pain meds - then your tube stops spasms and allows the stone to travel. You usually pace the floor waiting 45 minutes for vicodin to take hold and/or head to the ER.
Marijuana starts working within 5 seconds and kills nearly all of the pain within 90 seconds. You still need to take a vic because MJ only lasts about an hour, usually not long enough to get the job done. I never gave it much thought until I tried... If you've ever had a stone - you know that it is like somebody sticking a bayonet through your abdomen. In this regard I consider it a miracle drug lol. It's worked like a charm every time I've tried it.
That is awesome. My ex-drummer had kidney stones, I know it was killing him too. Not sure if he smoked for the pain though....
Quote: You're the first person I ever heard saying it actually relieved pain.
I would have been the last to believe it until I finally tried, especially for something as intense as a kidney stone. It has a definite narcotic effect too, you can't "brainwash" yourself into eliminating kidney stone pain. I've told my doctor, urologist and everyone I know about it.
That said, all of my research shows that marijuana is a "smooth muscle" relaxant. Smooth muscle is involuntary non-striated muscle. It is responsible for the contractility of hollow organs, such as blood vessels, the gastrointestinal tract, the bladder, uterus, ureter, etc... I doubt it would do a damn bit of good in actually killing real muscle pain for an athlete, but who knows?
Our View: Five months into Colorado's experiment with recreational pot, there are troubling signs.
No one was fooled by medical marijuana.
When we legalized it in Arizona in 2010, we knew full well we were part of the national pivot away from the war on drugs — from its carnage, its bulging prisons, its bottomless expense.
Americans are relaxing our drug laws and our Amsterdam has risen in the Rocky Mountains, inviting locals and long lines of drug tourists to light up legally for no better reason than sheer enjoyment.
Denver, capital city of the first state to legalize recreational pot, is an important experiment in the limits of cultural tolerance.
Five months into that experiment, there are troubling signs.
Hospitals are reporting an increase in young people and adults overdosing on edible pot. A Denver man who consumed marijuana-laced candy lost his wits and shot his wife to death. In March, a 19-year-old African exchange student ate a marijuana cookie and fatally threw himself over a balcony.
Sheriffs in neighboring states complain of more drivers crossing into their rural towns exhibiting the drug-induced state of Colorado.
"I think, by any measure, the experience of Colorado has not been a good one unless you're in the marijuana business," Kevin A. Sabet, executive director of Smart Approaches to Marijuana, told the New York Times. "We've seen lives damaged. We've seen deaths directly attributed to marijuana legalization. We've seen marijuana slipping through Colorado's borders. We've seen marijuana getting into the hands of kids."
Legalized marijuana: Colorado kids are paying the price
On Jan. 1, Colorado opened its doors to this nation’s first legal sale of recreational marijuana. Lost in the buzz is the documented impact of legal marijuana on Colorado children.
The reality about today’s marijuana, an addictive substance whose average potency has dramatically increased from 3 percent THC in the 1990s to almost 15 percent, should change everything that people think they know about the drug.
It affects the brain – especially in adolescents –impairing intelligence, reasoning, judgment and clarity of thought. Legalization means greater access and a lower perception of the drug’s risks by teens, leading more kids to use and hijacking their potential success in school and in life.
Instead of following Colorado’s lead, perhaps we need to cool our heels and watch carefully what’s happening. Having implemented medical marijuana in 2000, Colorado has 13 years of data we can examine.
Past 30-day use of marijuana by teens 12 to 17 is highest in medical-marijuana states. In Denver between 2004 and 2010, past 30-day users of marijuana ages 12 and up increased 4.3 percent, while the increase for the nation was 0.05 percent.
By 2010, past 30-day use for this age group was 12.2 percent, compared to 6.6 percent for the country. One in six kids who start using marijuana becomes addicted.
On Dec. 19, Dr. Christian Thurstone, Colorado Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Society president and youth addiction researcher at the University of Colorado-Denver, observed that his clinic has been “inundated with young people reporting for marijuana-addiction treatment. ... Every day, we see the acute effects of the policy of legalization. And our kids are paying a great price.”
In Colorado’s schools, drug-related expulsions spiked 45 percent between 2008 and 2012. In a single academic year, a 10-year low in drug-related suspensions and expulsions flipped to a 10-year high. While the Colorado Department of Education includes all drugs in its data, officials report that most drug-related suspensions since the 2008-09 academic year are related to marijuana.
Sadly for Colorado residents, marijuana-impaired drivers and fatalities are on the rise. While overall traffic fatalities decreased 16 percent between 2006 and 2011, during these same six years, traffic fatalities with drivers testing positive for just marijuana increased 114 percent.
What can Arizona learn from this?
-- Lesson Number 1: We should not rush to experiment with an entire generation of our young people by legalizing marijuana. Use of marijuana by Arizona’s 8th, 10th and 12th graders has already increased by 14.4 percent from 2008 to 2012.
-- Lesson Number 2: We must build an environment in which every child can learn and thrive. That must include funding public education to heighten awareness about the harms of marijuana. Every child can succeed when adults believe in them and create safe communities for them.
I was unaware that Josh Gordon was a 12-17 year old child. Really though, what does this have to do with the thread? No one is advocating for children to smoke here, you're grasping at straws.
I just don't see the upside of legalizing marijuana. the excuse on this board are kids excuses like "everybody does it so why cant I." or "there are worse things I can do."
or "they did away with prohibition why not pot." this is the one that really gets me. can anyone say we would not be better off without alcohol? classic case of two wrongs not making a right.
I just don't get it I guess.
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
Quote: I was unaware that Josh Gordon was a 12-17 year old child. Really though, what does this have to do with the thread? No one is advocating for children to smoke here, you're grasping at straws.
Quote: I was unaware that Josh Gordon was a 12-17 year old child. Really though, what does this have to do with the thread? No one is advocating for children to smoke here, you're grasping at straws.
your right. he broke the rules. he got caught. and he is going to be punished. end of story.
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
Funny how it's all from one source in an Arizona publication. It's becoming more accepted in more places and that trend will continue. But some will go kicking and screaming the entire way.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Quote: Funny how it's all from one source in an Arizona publication. It's becoming more accepted in more places and that trend will continue. But some will go kicking and screaming the entire way.
I really never gave pot or any other drugs much thought. live and let live. but these excuses are just plain dumb.
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
or "they did away with prohibition why not pot." this is the one that really gets me. can anyone say we would not be better off without alcohol? classic case of two wrongs not making a right.
I just don't get it I guess.
I don't understand the logic behind prohibition. I shouldn't be allowed to use or do something because someone else might be an idiot about it?
If that's the case, let's get rid of cell phones, cars, religion, junk food, video games, TV, guns, etc., etc.
Quote: I was unaware that Josh Gordon was a 12-17 year old child. Really though, what does this have to do with the thread? No one is advocating for children to smoke here, you're grasping at straws.
your right. he broke the rules. he got caught. and he is going to be punished. end of story.
The thing is that we don't really know what's happening or has happened at all.
As far as a debate about maryjane goes, it's best to keep that in the general section.
or "they did away with prohibition why not pot." this is the one that really gets me. can anyone say we would not be better off without alcohol? classic case of two wrongs not making a right.
I just don't get it I guess.
I don't understand the logic behind prohibition. I shouldn't be allowed to use or do something because someone else might be an idiot about it?
If that's the case, let's get rid of cell phones, cars, religion, junk food, video games, TV, guns, etc., etc.
This thread is way off track. It's become an avenue to make excuses for Gordon being an irresponsible idiot.
You guys can argue about how great or how bad pot is all day long, but that doesn't change that Gordon knows it is a banned substance and he apparently doesn't care if he gets booted off of his college teams or is suspended from his pro team and hurts his teammates. It's all about doing what he wants to do in the moment. Long range plans be damned.
I also want to question something YTown said. He said that Carter did coke and Gordon only smokes pot. What proof is there of that? I thought the NFL doesn't release information about such things. Am I wrong about that? There were all kinds of rumors about him doing Purple Drank last year. That isn't marijuana. We don't know what Gordon has done other than to continually run afoul of the drug testing rules.
Thus, people make excuses for him over and over and over again and then we wonder why he doesn't stop. I see it as people having probably been excusing his poor behavior for years because he has a special athletic gift. It's always the fault of someone else. Not Josh's fault. In this case, it's the Big Bully NFL who is wrong. Pfffttttttttt...you don't even know if the only thing he has used is marijuana. Last year, we were led to believe that it was cough medicine. LOL
So, let's blame everyone else for poor Josh's problems and excuse him. After all, he can score TDs and what is more important than that?
Quote: Legalized marijuana: Colorado kids are paying the price
On Jan. 1, Colorado opened its doors to this nation’s first legal sale of recreational marijuana. Lost in the buzz is the documented impact of legal marijuana on Colorado children.
The reality about today’s marijuana, an addictive substance whose average potency has dramatically increased from 3 percent THC in the 1990s to almost 15 percent, should change everything that people think they know about the drug.
It affects the brain – especially in adolescents –impairing intelligence, reasoning, judgment and clarity of thought. Legalization means greater access and a lower perception of the drug’s risks by teens, leading more kids to use and hijacking their potential success in school and in life.
Instead of following Colorado’s lead, perhaps we need to cool our heels and watch carefully what’s happening. Having implemented medical marijuana in 2000, Colorado has 13 years of data we can examine.
Past 30-day use of marijuana by teens 12 to 17 is highest in medical-marijuana states. In Denver between 2004 and 2010, past 30-day users of marijuana ages 12 and up increased 4.3 percent, while the increase for the nation was 0.05 percent.
By 2010, past 30-day use for this age group was 12.2 percent, compared to 6.6 percent for the country. One in six kids who start using marijuana becomes addicted.
On Dec. 19, Dr. Christian Thurstone, Colorado Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Society president and youth addiction researcher at the University of Colorado-Denver, observed that his clinic has been “inundated with young people reporting for marijuana-addiction treatment. ... Every day, we see the acute effects of the policy of legalization. And our kids are paying a great price.”
In Colorado’s schools, drug-related expulsions spiked 45 percent between 2008 and 2012. In a single academic year, a 10-year low in drug-related suspensions and expulsions flipped to a 10-year high. While the Colorado Department of Education includes all drugs in its data, officials report that most drug-related suspensions since the 2008-09 academic year are related to marijuana.
Sadly for Colorado residents, marijuana-impaired drivers and fatalities are on the rise. While overall traffic fatalities decreased 16 percent between 2006 and 2011, during these same six years, traffic fatalities with drivers testing positive for just marijuana increased 114 percent.
What can Arizona learn from this?
-- Lesson Number 1: We should not rush to experiment with an entire generation of our young people by legalizing marijuana. Use of marijuana by Arizona’s 8th, 10th and 12th graders has already increased by 14.4 percent from 2008 to 2012.
-- Lesson Number 2: We must build an environment in which every child can learn and thrive. That must include funding public education to heighten awareness about the harms of marijuana. Every child can succeed when adults believe in them and create safe communities for them.
Look up the info on how many deaths were attributed to MJ in the age group during that period of time. Then look up alcohol and gun related deaths for the same group during the same period.
Pot gets you high. Pot can have some bad effects on the hearts of long term smokers. But look all you want and you will be hard pressed if even possible to find a study that says it kills. Then look up guns, alcohol and tobacco...
This is an absolute no brainer to me. Legalize it, and tax it. Now if the Puritans could just find a way to make it good with God... Oh that's right the bible says; Genesis 1:29, "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
Well heck we're running out of logical excuses... time to get on board with legalization or you can stay on the wrong side of educated civil evolution just like all the gay bashers and racist before you..
or "they did away with prohibition why not pot." this is the one that really gets me. can anyone say we would not be better off without alcohol? classic case of two wrongs not making a right.
I just don't get it I guess.
I don't understand the logic behind prohibition. I shouldn't be allowed to use or do something because someone else might be an idiot about it?
If that's the case, let's get rid of cell phones, cars, religion, junk food, video games, TV, guns, etc., etc.
+1
cell phone? + lots of good things. keep in touch, emergency, has a use.
cars? get to work, store, lot of good things
religion? most our laws are based on it. part of civilization. has a use.
junk food? I will pass on this one. lol
video games? hand eye coordination, teach cause and effect. has some use
TV? news, learning, has some use.
guns? hunting, self protection. has some use.
alcohol? fill in the blank____________?
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
I don't believe we are using it as an excuse. The rules are in place just as they are in most work places. We haven't seen the results of this latest incident and nothing has happened yet.
But if he is suspended, he obviously broke the rules in place yet again for which there is no excuse.
That doesn't mean everyone has to agree with those rules and the laws as it pertains to marijuana.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Posted by Darin Gantt on June 11, 2014, 8:59 AM EDT
Wide receiver Josh Gordon is still practicing with the Browns while he awaits word on what could be a year-long suspension.
So it might be natural that he’s not practicing with the most urgency.
Browns coach Mike Pettine told 92.3 The Fan that Gordon didn’t always exert himself fully in practice.
“It is something we’ve talked about and from what I understand he’s made some improvement, but it is a work in progress,” Pettine said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. “I’m a big believer in quality of reps versus quantity of reps. If I’m a player and I know that I’m going to be out there for 40 full-speed team snaps I may have a tendency to pace myself.
“There still needs to be improvement there but we’re aware of it.”
Of course, there’s a chicken-egg quality there too. If Gordon cared enough about his craft to push himself fully, he might not continue to put himself in positions that lead to suspensions.
Pettine also admitted it was a bit frustrating getting ready for the season with the Gordon suspension hanging over their heads.
“There’s certainly a level of frustration because we’ve known the news for so long,” Pettine said. “It’s just a holding pattern and I understand that the league has a process that they have to go through and there’s other things that they’re dealing with and we respect that. But at the same time it is difficult because it really will affect our preparation for the season.”
Not having one of your best players tends to do that.
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P.S. I've heard this before about him. After years and years of smoking pot, it tends to burn one out (lack of motivation).... That just might just be the reason, or at least one of them.
This is a witch hunt. How could YOU possibly know anything of substance about Josh Gordon. Your opinions are based solely on VERY BIASED speculation.
He's not motivated... that's why he came back and under-performed so miserably last year... lack of motivation. Give me a break. Thump your bible or whatever you issue is elsewhere would ya...
The article is about him at practice. No one said he doesn't kick butt while he plays.
And the article is not what I take exception with, it's your comment afterwards.
We are all entitled to our own opinions. Or at least I thought we were?
Quote: I don't believe we are using it as an excuse. The rules are in place just as they are in most work places. We haven't seen the results of this latest incident and nothing has happened yet.
But if he is suspended, he obviously broke the rules in place yet again for which there is no excuse.
That doesn't mean everyone has to agree with those rules and the laws as it pertains to marijuana.
Posted by Darin Gantt on June 11, 2014, 8:59 AM EDT
Wide receiver Josh Gordon is still practicing with the Browns while he awaits word on what could be a year-long suspension.
So it might be natural that he’s not practicing with the most urgency.
Browns coach Mike Pettine told 92.3 The Fan that Gordon didn’t always exert himself fully in practice.
“It is something we’ve talked about and from what I understand he’s made some improvement, but it is a work in progress,” Pettine said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. “I’m a big believer in quality of reps versus quantity of reps. If I’m a player and I know that I’m going to be out there for 40 full-speed team snaps I may have a tendency to pace myself.
“There still needs to be improvement there but we’re aware of it.”
Of course, there’s a chicken-egg quality there too. If Gordon cared enough about his craft to push himself fully, he might not continue to put himself in positions that lead to suspensions.
Pettine also admitted it was a bit frustrating getting ready for the season with the Gordon suspension hanging over their heads.
“There’s certainly a level of frustration because we’ve known the news for so long,” Pettine said. “It’s just a holding pattern and I understand that the league has a process that they have to go through and there’s other things that they’re dealing with and we respect that. But at the same time it is difficult because it really will affect our preparation for the season.”
Not having one of your best players tends to do that.
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P.S. I've heard this before about him. After years and years of smoking pot, it tends to burn one out (lack of motivation).... That just might just be the reason, or at least one of them.
This is a witch hunt. How could YOU possibly know anything of substance about Josh Gordon. Your opinions are based solely on VERY BIASED speculation.
He's not motivated... that's why he came back and under-performed so miserably last year... lack of motivation. Give me a break. Thump your bible or whatever you issue is elsewhere would ya...
The article is about him at practice. No one said he doesn't kick butt while he plays.
And the article is not what I take exception with, it's your comment afterwards.
We are all entitled to our own opinions. Or at least I thought we were?
Posted by Darin Gantt on June 11, 2014, 8:59 AM EDT
Wide receiver Josh Gordon is still practicing with the Browns while he awaits word on what could be a year-long suspension.
So it might be natural that he’s not practicing with the most urgency.
Browns coach Mike Pettine told 92.3 The Fan that Gordon didn’t always exert himself fully in practice.
“It is something we’ve talked about and from what I understand he’s made some improvement, but it is a work in progress,” Pettine said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. “I’m a big believer in quality of reps versus quantity of reps. If I’m a player and I know that I’m going to be out there for 40 full-speed team snaps I may have a tendency to pace myself.
“There still needs to be improvement there but we’re aware of it.”
Of course, there’s a chicken-egg quality there too. If Gordon cared enough about his craft to push himself fully, he might not continue to put himself in positions that lead to suspensions.
Pettine also admitted it was a bit frustrating getting ready for the season with the Gordon suspension hanging over their heads.
“There’s certainly a level of frustration because we’ve known the news for so long,” Pettine said. “It’s just a holding pattern and I understand that the league has a process that they have to go through and there’s other things that they’re dealing with and we respect that. But at the same time it is difficult because it really will affect our preparation for the season.”
Not having one of your best players tends to do that.
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P.S. I've heard this before about him. After years and years of smoking pot, it tends to burn one out (lack of motivation).... That just might just be the reason, or at least one of them.
This is a witch hunt. How could YOU possibly know anything of substance about Josh Gordon. Your opinions are based solely on VERY BIASED speculation.
He's not motivated... that's why he came back and under-performed so miserably last year... lack of motivation. Give me a break. Thump your bible or whatever you issue is elsewhere would ya...
The article is about him at practice. No one said he doesn't kick butt while he plays.
And the article is not what I take exception with, it's your comment afterwards.
We are all entitled to our own opinions. Or at least I thought we were?
Are you positive he was talking about practice? I'm not too sure about that!
You know what my memory loss is from! It's my one regret in life.
Otherwise, not that much. I guess you could say my mind is clearer, and I'm sharper. But I was a very heavy user. And that's my own decision to make (whether I want a "clear" head or not). If I'm not hurting anyone, and I'm able to provide for myself, who is the government to tell me what to do.
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