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You stabbed a guy with a piece of gum? Did you berry him later?
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Better watch revealing all this evidence. some gumshoe may crack the case
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I see this as a very smart move by the front office. They want and expect Hoyer to play well enough to keep Johnny on the bench which is where they want him and where he should stay all year IMO. They just want to move the gas can away from the fire until Johnny learns the position in the NFL and is ready to play rather than have to hear all the distractions of those screaming to put him in the game before he is ready
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They want Johny to win the spot, they expect Johny to win the spot but they also want Johny to earn the spot. that competitive fire and leadership is about to be tested. Hoyer is ahead of him and isnt gonna back down to anyone. It is a challenge and keeping the national press away early, will pay off long term.
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I just don't see how Haslam saying this to the press helps squelch the media fire. I believe it only adds to the flames.
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But the flames have jumped away from Johnny and onto the FO. Brilliant.
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If that was the intent, then I agree. Good thought.
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I think you are correct..
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Well, we just disagree on this one. I believe it's all about getting to Johnny Football. Outside of Browns fans, the media could care less about Haslam in the grand scheme of things.
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it would be the Browns. Instead, they told me to cancel my flight. SMH.
And that is what this is all about - not the Browns and if they can handle it...actually this action is to do just that...HANDLE IT.
Just a Wah Wah!! from a Bozo - His boss told him btw...get that JM story. A real reporter would work their way to Berea anyways and find a way to get a story!
These guys aren't real reporters unfortunately...ergo "Bozo"
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It's not even hard to write a story about how Manziel will look during it. Just say some positive things about JM, call the Browns inept and build up a QB controversy.
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RG3, not Tebow, could be driving Browns’ handling of Manziel Posted by Mike Florio on May 15, 2014, 8:53 AM EDT Shanahan Getty Images It’s become fashionable to chastise the long-irrelevant Browns for the manner in which they’ve handled their sudden burst of relevance. And since I have zero sense of fashion, allow me to look at this a different way. The Browns have blocked the national media from Johnny Manziel’s first minicamp, explaining that they don’t want a repeat of Tebowmania. The better comparison could be not Tebow but Robert Griffin III. Offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan has seen this movie before. Continuously for two years with his eyes held wide open, Clockwork Orange-style. Kyle and his father, Mike, saw RG3 become the most powerful man in D.C. not residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, with owner Daniel Snyder embracing — and perhaps fueling — the idea that it was Griffin’s team. Browns owner Jimmy Haslam seems to be determined to avoid, or at least to minimize, a repeat of that phenomenon. While keeping the national media out will do nothing to decrease national media interest in the Browns and Manziel, the effort provides tangible proof that the Browns are trying to not let Manziel become bigger than the team. That may not be enough to ensure that Manziel and Shanahan will be able to coexist. Manziel’s penchant for improvisation doesn’t mesh with Shanahan’s preference that quarterback play be virtually robotic. “During the course of a regular game, Kyle Shanahan wants you to run the offense exactly how he wants it, down to the amount of hitches you take to go through your progressions,” former Shanahan pupil Rex Grossman said back in 2011. Manziel may comply during the early portions of a play, but once things start to collapse he may decide to do his own thing, which may drive Shanahan crazy. Which leads back to the question of whether the coaching staff and the front office really wanted Manziel in the first place. By all appearances, it was a pick that was at least indirectly influenced by Haslam and/or the homeless guy in Cleveland. If so, the challenge for Haslam will be to ensure that Manziel never figures that out — and that he never abuses the power he already possesses in Cleveland, regardless of what the team now does to try to contain it. web page
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Yep, that's all New York media types care about is a QB controversy in Cleveland!
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Interesting observation from Florio...considering that RG3 does plenty of improvisation and it was what made him so good his rookie year.
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This is about a NY beat reporter stamping his feet.. who cares?
The media will see JM and the REST of the Browns soon enough.. heck.. I intend to attend at least one session of camp this summer. I usually do anyhows..
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Yep, that's all New York media types care about is a QB controversy in Cleveland!
If they are going to give Cleveland the bandwidth, it's not going to be something positive, that much I can say with relative certainty... and a QB controversy is low hanging fruit for this team...
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I think it is a solid idea. Why cater to any media that craps on you. Simple enough. We intend to win games with him, and we are focused on football. Can't have a media circus without media. Serves notice about who is in charge. Kids (and QBs) need to know where the lines are.
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Gee, Millcreek, now what are the chances of a QB controversy in Cleveland? It seems easier to gin up and manufacture the story you WANT to write than focus on the STORY like reporters due. Anymore it takes a panel of talking heads, a ginned up artificial controversy, and a negative to write. Lame.  
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I'm trying to figure out what the press wants? What info are they after? "Hey JM do you like your locker?" "Have you tried on your uniform yet?"
For real what questions do they have that they don't have answers to at this point?
There's really nothing to be gained from them accept to try to get him to say something stupid so people can run with a sensationalistic story.
In a perfect world, you could actually protect your rookies from that type of thing for the long run. That would be nice.
But the rules of the NFL only allow you to monitor the press for rookie mini camps. After that things will get crazy. It takes away from the learning process and serves no useful purpose. But ratings, hype and money are a big part of the NFL as a business, so rules are set up that prevent ownership and coaching staffs a lot of power to protect rookies from the press.
In our case, they can flex their muscles for a New York minute, but after rookie mini camp, as it all unfolds, it's going to be another RG3/Tebow type circus and nothing will stop that.
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Yep, that's all New York media types care about is a QB controversy in Cleveland!
Actually, I think that's exactly what they'd love to have happen with a high profile guy like Manziel..
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I didn't like reading the articles/speculation about Shanahan wanting his QBs to be like "robots" and scripting out their every move during games. If that is the case, Manziel shouldn't have even been on our draft board.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I didn't like reading the articles/speculation about Shanahan wanting his QBs to be like "robots" and scripting out their every move during games. If that is the case, Manziel shouldn't have even been on our draft board.
that didn't sound good, but you probably can't convince me that Pettine and Farmer didn't have that conversation with Shanahan and came to a resolution.
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I didn't like reading the articles/speculation about Shanahan wanting his QBs to be like "robots" and scripting out their every move during games. If that is the case, Manziel shouldn't have even been on our draft board.
that didn't sound good, but you probably can't convince me that Pettine and Farmer didn't have that conversation with Shanahan and came to a resolution.
Yeah we'd assume so. Scripting too much with Johnny simply won't work. That's honestly probably one thing RG3 didn't like about Shanahan if true.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Hasn't this guy got his hands full trying to cover the Giants and Jets?
I love thy "Why did you draft the guy?"
Oh I dunno, to win football games?
My thoughts exactly.
We draft him because we think he can win for us. Not to have people from other sports networks come and tailgate at our camps.
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Screw New York media. Screw BSPN media since they will find any way possible to bash Cleveland sports just for kicks. I have always felt that the Browns FO needed to put their feet down against such media anyway and, in the metaphoric sense, give them the middle finger. Bar those media airheads from the stadium if you can manage it. Oh wait...
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Bart Hubbuch definitely is chapped about this and making the most of his 15 minutes. Here is the latest article blasting the Browns. The guy got into a spat with LaCanfora on twitter previously. Poor guy seems attention starved. Article
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Wow. It looks like Throw Long wrote that article.
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Yep, that's all New York media types care about is a QB controversy in Cleveland!
If they are going to give Cleveland the bandwidth, it's not going to be something positive, that much I can say with relative certainty... and a QB controversy is low hanging fruit for this team...
I would say that the media doesn't necessarily hate Cleveland ..... but man, when i think back to how they were trying to push Lebron out of Cleveland as soon as they could, championing larger market teams left and right, well, I find it impossible to do.
I don't even really know if it's hatred ..... but more an attitude that Cleveland just doesn't deserve success, because as a city, they just aren't exciting enough to cover regularly. If you can go to NYC to cover the playoffs, or to LA ......... or have to head to Cleveland .... where would most yapping pundits rather go? To the big city with the brightest lights, of course.
Look at ESPN, with ESPN LA, and ESPN NY, and so on. They love the bright lights, big city.
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I had to laugh at that article. How dare the Browns turn us down for credentials, we are the post damn it lol.
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I didn't like reading the articles/speculation about Shanahan wanting his QBs to be like "robots" and scripting out their every move during games. If that is the case, Manziel shouldn't have even been on our draft board.
that didn't sound good, but you probably can't convince me that Pettine and Farmer didn't have that conversation with Shanahan and came to a resolution.
Yeah we'd assume so. Scripting too much with Johnny simply won't work. That's honestly probably one thing RG3 didn't like about Shanahan if true.
Good point, I would hope that Shanahan learned from that experience with RG3. I mean, that was a botched partnership and it really didn't need to be.
One of the reasons I like how they are handling Manziel (and for that matter, all of the draft picks and recent signings) is that nobody, not one of them is going to be allowed to get a big head.
Not sure what other teams are doing (if anything) to prevent the "Big Head" syndrome, but I like this approach.
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Manziel may comply during the early portions of a play, but once things start to collapse he may decide to do his own thing, which may drive Shanahan crazy. I would be very very disappointed if JM DID NOT improvise when things "start to collapse" - I don't understand why it would drive Shanahan crazy. As long as JM gives the designed play it DUE before doing his own thing. My goodness Wilson just won a SB with his own thing when plays broke down... 
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I would be very very disappointed if JM DID NOT improvise when things "start to collapse" - I don't understand why it would drive Shanahan crazy. As long as JM gives the designed play it DUE before doing his own thing. My goodness Wilson just won a SB with his own thing when plays broke down...
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That's what makes Johnny Johnny. (that looks a bit stupid typed out...)
Why wouldn't he improvise when things break down? That's what makes him electric. That's why teams would draft him. Not because he sat back in the pocket, it was his ability to extend plays and make things happen.
Didn't get his logic there....
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