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Browns TE Jordan Cameron hires new agentBy GEORGE M. THOMAS Published: May 13, 2014 Browns Pro Bowl tight end Jordan Cameron has hired CAA Sports to merve as his agent. Cameron is in the final year of his contract which pays him $645,000 and so far he and the Browns have been unable to come to an agreement on an extension. If he and the Browns are unable to come to an agreement, he can become a free agent after next season if the team doesn’t use its franchise or transition tag on him. The latter was used for center Alex Mack recently and would allow Cameron to negotiate with teams next spring to test the free-agent market, but the Browns would have the right to match any offer. If the Browns use the franchise tag on him, he’d cost the team approximately $7 million dollars. The 6-foot-5, 245-pound tight end made his first Pro Bowl last season based on season that included 80 catches for 917 yards and seven touchdowns. He fired his former agent, Michael Hoffman of Premier Sports, last week, according to reports. TE Jordan Cameron mum on snagged contract talksBy Tony Grossi | ESPNCleveland.com File this: A source says that efforts by the Browns to sign tight end Jordan Cameron to a long-term contract have snagged already. The Browns have had two different offers rejected by Cameron, who is in the last year of his contract. After the first practice of coach Mike Pettine’s voluntary veteran minicamp on Tuesday, 04/29. Cameron declined to characterize negotiations in any way. “That’s business stuff,” he said. “I can’t think about that. I’ve got the season to play and my business people handle that. I can’t really say anything about it. I’ve got to play hard and really focus on this right now.” Cameron would not even address whether he wants to get contract talks out of the way before the season starts. Center Alex Mack had the same attitude last year. After owner Jimmy Haslam blew up football operations – interrupting contract talks -- the new regime gave Mack the transition tag. The Browns matched an offer sheet for $42 million over five years signed by Jacksonville, which can be voided by Mack after two years for $18 million. The source says Cameron’s rejection of the two Browns’ offers may have more to do with a desire to return to the West Coast than quibbling over dollars. In any case, the Browns could use the franchise tag on Cameron in 2015. But they have other core veterans with contracts expiring this season to consider, also, such as cornerback Joe Haden, linebacker Jabaal Sheard, nose tackle Phil Taylor and defensive lineman Ahtyba Rubin. For his part, Cameron does not intend to rest on the laurels of his first Pro Bowl season. “Got to do better,” he said. “Lot of stuff to work on. I’m not anywhere near where I can be. I still got a lot to learn and I will. I’ll keep working my butt off, like I always have and still stay hungry. I still have a lot to prove to myself, and I’m willing to work.”
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With Haden's extension and Taylor's 5th year extension, the only core players left to enter their "contract season" are Sheard, Rubin and Cameron. I hope we re-sign at least two of them, but a lot depends on how they perform this season and if they stay healthy. Also, the development of players like Winn, Hughes and Mingo could impact the probability of re-signing for the front 7 players. The depth behind Cameron isn't as good, so as of now, I'd say he's the most likely to get franchise tagged.
I think drafting Mingo after signing Kruger in FA pretty much made an extension for Sheard very unlikely, which just adds to the idiocy of that pick. I hope and think Rubin would re-sign, probably even for a little less than he's making now. He's a loyal, good soldier and I see him staying and be another coaching staff's fav DL player, who leads by example and hustle
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I think drafting Mingo after signing Kruger in FA pretty much made an extension for Sheard very unlikely, which just adds to the idiocy of that pick.
Not necessarily. According to spotrac (so, FWIW) it indicates that dead money for Kruger only amounts to $3.8M in 2015. So, if he would fail to prove his contract value and Sheard continues his upward slope, they could cut ties without any significant losses.
Also, I think Sheard is a bit more versatile having proved to be effective as a LDE/RDE in a 4-3 as well as an OLB in a 3-4. Versatility is a heavy trend in a Pettine defense.
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The Kruger/Sheard discussion is important. Many people either say Mingo was a wasted pick or Kruger was a wasted investment (I'm prone to think that way as well), but we also must remember that we weren't sure if Sheard could make an effective transition to OLB in the 3-4. He performed admirably I thought, but we're still heavily invested in our OLBs
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Good point. Yeah, Kruger is cut-able if he has another AVG season. That's a possibility to free up the money to re-sign Sheard if he outperforms him. I just hope Mingo steps it up, because if he remains only the 3rd best OLB on the roster, then we'd have to let a better one walk for the sake of investment in Mingo. If he doesn't become better than one of the starters you already had after the 2nd season, then the pick was a bust.
He needs to become at least as good as one of Kruger/Sheard to justify letting one of them go, and even then, the pick would be the equivalent of a lateral fumble. It wouldn't have improved the team
With McFadden already on the backburner at CB, the 2013 draft is trending bustville quickly if Mingo doesn't make a significant leap this season.
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I was extremely impressed with how Kruger played OLB last year. His game was far more well rounded than we were led to believe. He set the edge against the run better than any other OLB we have had since before 1999. His pass rush was down, but we also hardly ever blitzed last year.
I think that Kruger could have a fantastic season this year.
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Have to agree. Second rounder suspended for the season. McFadden was an awful pick from the start. Fourth round pick is what we used to trade up for Johnny, so there's that. Fifth round pick turned into Desir, who will be competing for the 4th CB position. Slaughter will likely be cut. Gilkey could get cut. Bryant played well as a rookie... question is just if Pettine keeps 7 DL on the roster.
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I honestly HATED that McFadden pick from the second I heard it. As I've discussed with some on the board, my good friend was a CB drafted last year to the Titans ... so I kept track of the CB class fairly well ... I didn't understand that selection at the time, and still don't.
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Maybe if your friend didn't tell his agent Cleveland "wasn't where he wanted to be" we would have drafted him.  
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Maybe if your friend didn't tell his agent Cleveland "wasn't where he wanted to be" we would have drafted him.
Yeah he let his arrogance get the better of him
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I was extremely impressed with how Kruger played OLB last year. His game was far more well rounded than we were led to believe. He set the edge against the run better than any other OLB we have had since before 1999. His pass rush was down, but we also hardly ever blitzed last year.
I think that Kruger could have a fantastic season this year.
I, too, was surprised by his performance against the run. However, he was signed to be an effective pass rusher and he didn't deliver IMO. Our DBs are gonna be on islands this year based on how Pettine runs his defense and it will be imperative to get pressure consistently.
Sheard, I thought was the most consistent rusher in that regard from an OLB perspective.
Mingo, showed flashes he could be the BEST of the OLB bunch.
Kruger, though well-rounded, didn't impress me rushing the QB.
You're right, he set the edge well, but I rather that be secondary to getting after the QB, particularly in a pass happy league. Actually, I thought Sheard did a decent job at this as well, although not as good as Kruger.
So, if right now was the end of the 2015 season, I would say Kruger would be the odd man out at this point, try to re-sign Sheard and draft an OLB early in case the light never comes on for Mingo (which I think it will)
JUst my opinion, I think Kruger has a ways to go to prove that contract.
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I really don't think it would have made any difference if he hadn't let it be known until AFTER the Titans drafted him.
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One more thing...
I was at an event two weeks ago and had the opportunity to meet Jabaal. I've never met him before so I have zero baseline to go off of, but he just looked to be much bigger, wider than any pictures I've ever seen of him.
Not sure if there has been an effort on his part to build a bigger frame or it's simply the fact that I've never seen him up close, but it was the first thing I thought of when I walked up to him. I've met other players before and never had that instant reaction..this time it was different.
Not sure what, if any, bearing this has on how he'll do.
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I think that I read that Kruger was most effective as a blitzer in Baltimore (5th rusher) as opposed to just lining up as a 4th man in a 4 man rush. It seemed to me like we sent only 4 pass rushers a great deal last year.
Further, we need to vary up our blitzes. Last year teams really sped up their QB once we had some success rushing the QB. (and we did throughout the 1st half of the year) We need quick, direct line blitzes, getting after the QB right up the gut, that get in the QB's line of vision and force him off his spot. I remember Roethlisberger all of a sudden becoming this QB with super fast decisions last year. We need to vary up our blitzes so that he can't hit the safety valve so quickly. I do think that having hugely improved CB play will help the pass rush immensely. I think that we'll see more 5 and 6 man blitzes with Pettine in charge. I believe that will make this defense far more effective.
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I agree with all you said in your second paragraph. Rushing up the gut is definitely an opportunity, IMO, with the healthy Bryant, Taylor, and even Winn in a variety of different line fronts. Particularly Bryant though...he was great.
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I was at an event two weeks ago and had the opportunity to meet Jabaal. I've never met him before so I have zero baseline to go off of, but he just looked to be much bigger, wider than any pictures I've ever seen of him.
Not sure if there has been an effort on his part to build a bigger frame or it's simply the fact that I've never seen him up close, but it was the first thing I thought of when I walked up to him. I've met other players before and never had that instant reaction..this time it was different.
Not sure what, if any, bearing this has on how he'll do.
I think he is only getting bigger in your mind.
naw really I thought so too. these kids come into the nfl and it takes a few years for some to get to the weight and shape that is best for them. jmo.
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I really don't think it would have made any difference if he hadn't let it be known until AFTER the Titans drafted him.
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Good point. Yeah, Kruger is cut-able if he has another AVG season. That's a possibility to free up the money to re-sign Sheard if he outperforms him. I just hope Mingo steps it up, because if he remains only the 3rd best OLB on the roster, then we'd have to let a better one walk for the sake of investment in Mingo. If he doesn't become better than one of the starters you already had after the 2nd season, then the pick was a bust.
He needs to become at least as good as one of Kruger/Sheard to justify letting one of them go, and even then, the pick would be the equivalent of a lateral fumble. It wouldn't have improved the team
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I agree. This FO isn't married to Mingo so I don't think they would blink an eye in letting him go before they released a better player.
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We didn't have good blitzers at ILB for a long time. It's not DQ's or Robertson's game. That's the part where Dansby will show the most upgrade. He's less reliable than DQ in run D, but he's a much, much better blitzer and coverage ILB.
Kirksey will probably be in man or zone coverage a lot and read-react from there with his athleticism. We basically traded less run-D for better pass rush and coverage at ILB. With that, the DL plays more "on an island" so to say vs the run. Rubin, Hughes and Taylor will get more responsibility in that regard and have to hold blocks long enough for the LB and S to react to the action.
All of that sounds good and doable so far. The biggest gamble in Pettine's D though will be the run D vs outside runs. With a guy like Benard in our division and a couple of new press-CB who are olé-tacklers (Haden is a good one though), our OLB have to be much better vs the run this season to make it work.
Overall, the D is shaping up as a big-play D either way, making and allowing big plays. Boom or bust baby.
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I really don't think it would have made any difference if he hadn't let it be known until AFTER the Titans drafted him.
The player telling the agent is so the agent will tell the team. Before the draft.
Well of course. The agent would be all for telling that team in hopes that his player get selected later in the draft meaning less money in his own pocket. I'm sure that's how it works.
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I'm sure Cameron is paying attention to the goings on of Jimmy Graham. How often does Cameron lineup as an actual tight end?
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Cameron is betting on himself this season ... he thinks he will maintain or surpass last year's stats, in which case I'd be thrilled.
If he doesn't play up to the same level he'll be costing himself some money IMO. He's not to the Graham/Gonzalez/Gates dominance level at this point in his career.
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Good point. Yeah, Kruger is cut-able if he has another AVG season. That's a possibility to free up the money to re-sign Sheard if he outperforms him. I just hope Mingo steps it up, because if he remains only the 3rd best OLB on the roster, then we'd have to let a better one walk for the sake of investment in Mingo. If he doesn't become better than one of the starters you already had after the 2nd season, then the pick was a bust.
He needs to become at least as good as one of Kruger/Sheard to justify letting one of them go, and even then, the pick would be the equivalent of a lateral fumble. It wouldn't have improved the team
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I agree. This FO isn't married to Mingo so I don't think they would blink an eye in letting him go before they released a better player.
Mingo may or may not fit into the plans going forward, I guess we'll see. But certainly he's better than someone that you just cut. I would hope they'd try and get something for him in a trade.
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Good point. Yeah, Kruger is cut-able if he has another AVG season. That's a possibility to free up the money to re-sign Sheard if he outperforms him. I just hope Mingo steps it up, because if he remains only the 3rd best OLB on the roster, then we'd have to let a better one walk for the sake of investment in Mingo. If he doesn't become better than one of the starters you already had after the 2nd season, then the pick was a bust.
He needs to become at least as good as one of Kruger/Sheard to justify letting one of them go, and even then, the pick would be the equivalent of a lateral fumble. It wouldn't have improved the team
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I agree. This FO isn't married to Mingo so I don't think they would blink an eye in letting him go before they released a better player.
Mingo may or may not fit into the plans going forward, I guess we'll see. But certainly he's better than someone that you just cut. I would hope they'd try and get something for him in a trade.
My opinions on Mingo seemed to change during the year. He seemed to really get exploited at times, especially in the run game. But he would still flash some great, athletic plays at times. I think this will be a huge year for him going forward; he must show progress as a pass rusher with multiple moves and in run support by staying disciplined.
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You guys will reach for anything.
In the end, an agent will sacrifice a fraction of his short term commission to get his player what he wants, what makes him happy, and sets himself up for referrals and more players in the future. I don't think that's a reach at all. His job is to make his player money, it's also to keep him happy... If his player wasn't upset about the small drop in his initial contract from falling from 22 to 32 so he could be where he wanted to be, then the agent wouldn't care either.
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So you actually believe it's likely that his agent informed the Browns that Bridgewater did not wish to be drafted by the Browns? I find it not only unlikely, but bordering on absurdity.
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I think he got pissed the Browns didn't draft him so he got angry and decided to crap on Cleveland.
Because he's a diva.
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If you were an agent and your client was being seriously considered by a team for which he really didn't want to play, you have 3 options..
1. Quit representing him
2. Tell him to suck it up and go play where he's drafted
3. Try to not let him be drafted by that team
What would you do?
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I like Cameron. I sure hope they find a way to keep him long term.
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Hopefully it is because the past agency couldn't get a deal done with the team he wanted to STAY with.
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Of course hoping that is good for us and not bad.
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If you were an agent and your client was being seriously considered by a team for which he really didn't want to play, you have 3 options..
1. Quit representing him
2. Tell him to suck it up and go play where he's drafted
3. Try to not let him be drafted by that team
What would you do?
None of those things in the way you worded it. LOL
I would tell him that this isn't a sound strategy going into the draft. That it's in his best interest to let the draft play out. That's simply how the process works.
Or for the short version which you seem to prefer, "C'mon kid, don't be an Eli Manning".
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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In the end you work for him. He may take your advice, he may say, if I get drafted by that team, you're fired... you never know with emotional divas who are about to come into a lot of money.
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Legend
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You never know with a person simply telling his agent what his preference of teams is either. Of course we can all read a lot into it, but we never really know.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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