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At safety, teams think outside the box
Originally Published: October 6, 2011
The only problem was that Leonhard -- a player Jets defensive coordinator Mike Pettine described as "a guy who looks like he should be doing your taxes" -- didn't bite. He didn't even hesitate when Ryan pump-faked. Instead, he pivoted and raced back to cover wide receiver Roddy White, who was just as flabbergasted when Leonhard deflected the pass for an incompletion.
"Before that play, I thought Jim Leonhard was an average guy," White said. "But I gained a lot of respect for him. We had run that play three or four times in the past and it always worked. There's a lot to be said for being in the right position."
Leonhard has been in the right position in more ways than just that moment in 2009. His success with the Jets is evidence that a major shift is happening at the back end of defenses all across the NFL. There was a time when Leonhard, 5-foot-8 and 190 pounds, might have been watching that play from the comfort of his living room, given how many talent evaluators gave him a real chance to play in the league. Now he's a compelling example of what's really needed to compete at safety, a job that has become the second-hardest in the NFL, right after quarterback.
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Pettine estimated that teams on average are throwing 60 percent of the time. That trend has made bigger, hard-hitting safeties (such as Roy Williams) obsolete and left personnel evaluators frustrated by a lack of versatility in younger players.
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"You have to be very cerebral back there," Pettine said. "Jimmy and Eric [Smith, the Jets' other safety] are prime examples of that. You need to be able to stay on top of things because the game is so complicated now. There are a lot of moving parts because teams don't just line up and run at you. There are stacks, bunches, shifts, motion and tight ends and running backs lining up in places they never did before. It's a lot to keep up with."
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Pettine said he wouldn't be surprised to see more small safeties, like Leonhard, finding playing time. That move has merit, even if durability might become a concern. Bob Sanders, a 5-8, 206-pound defender, was the 2007 NFL Defensive Player of the Year, but he has played in only 11 games in the past four years because of injuries.
"You will get to the point where you're playing with four cornerbacks out there," Pettine said. "The day of the true safety is about over because of the speed of the game. When we're looking at safeties in the draft, once you get past the no-brainer guys -- like Eric Berry -- we're looking at slower college cornerbacks. Because right now, safeties are becoming like fullbacks on offense. They're becoming extinct."
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For 2014 barring weird injuries...Skrine is the #2 CB on 1st & 2nd down and maybe moves to the slot on 3rd down if Gilbert can play right away. I could even see Skrine staying wide for the year while Gilbert/Desir get up to speed.
In what world do teams only play two corners on first and second down?
Well...I'm going to assume that you are asking a serious question - although I am surprised that I need to boil it down further...
IMO, Buster will be the #2 (outside) CB the majority of the time throughout 2014. On 3rd downs, I see him moving inside if one of the new guys can handle it outside.
If we are frequently in a 3 CB set regardless of down #, I think Buster is still outside and Trufant starts in the slot - UNLESS/UNTIL the new guys get up to speed. When we are in a 2 CB set, it'll be Skrine & Haden.
I highly doubt Gilbert beats out Skrine for #2 (outside) CB this year...it would be GREAT if he did...I just don't see it happening.
More likely, Gilbert beats out Trufant (he'd better do so relatively soon) as 3rd best CB...then we need to figure out where to best put Gilbert to get our (3) best CBs on the filed - outside or in the slot - whichever the coaches think improves the entire unit.
While I think Skrine will STILL be a better #2 (outside) CB throughout 2014, the unit may be better with Skrine in the slot if Gilbert is more suited outside than in the slot. I think Gilbert will work/prepare more outside than in the slot- and be ready more-quickly there - as he was drafted to give us a bigger CB on the filed as much as possible.
Bottom line: Skrine will be a better CB2 (outside) than Gilbert for 2014. Getting Gilbert on the field will be more about replacing Trufant than replacing Skrine - regardless of who is then outside or in the slot. I expect 2015 to be a different story with Gilbert starting outside and Skrine in the slot - or at FS. 
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I agree Willie at least at the start. It took Hayden eight weeks before he started. People are overlooking Trufant. Having Skrine, Hayden, Trufant, and Gilbert really make a nice group with lots of speed.
I really don't see Buster moving to free safety. I see Whitner, Pettine loves guys who can play both safety positions, moving to free safety playing all four corner backs in a dime. He'll use a 2-4 or 4-2 front seven.
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I'm sorry .... it shouldn't ......but it does ........ This drives me nuts ..... We don't have a Hayden on the team. His name is Joe Haden.There is no Y in his name. I mean, he has been here for 4 years now.  OK, anyway ......... . Sorry. I did not mean to offend, and I hope that I didn't. Now, back on topic. I like the fact that we have several big and fast corners with cover ability in Haden, Gilber, and Desir. We have the ideal slot corner in Skrine. We have a kid with a year's experience in McFadden. He's a question mark, for sure. Trufant is a special teams guy only. I read an article that said that he, in limited duty, allowed completions on every pass thrown to his man against his coverage. (which wasn't many ... but still ..... 100% pass completion % against is a massive concern) I don't think that Trufant will be much of a factor on defense.
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I'm sorry .... it shouldn't ......but it does ........
This drives me nuts .....
We don't have a Hayden on the team. His name is Joe Haden.There is no Y in his name. I mean, he has been here for 4 years now.
OK, anyway ......... . Sorry. I did not mean to offend, and I hope that I didn't.
Now, back on topic.
I like the fact that we have several big and fast corners with cover ability in Haden, Gilber, and Desir. We have the ideal slot corner in Skrine. We have a kid with a year's experience in McFadden. He's a question mark, for sure. Trufant is a special teams guy only. I read an article that said that he, in limited duty, allowed completions on every pass thrown to his man against his coverage. (which wasn't many ... but still ..... 100% pass completion % against is a massive concern) I don't think that Trufant will be much of a factor on defense.
OK, not for nothing, but it's GILBERT 
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Give it a rest. A small typo!!  Thanks for the correction... 
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I'm sorry .... it shouldn't ......but it does ........
This drives me nuts .....
We don't have a Hayden on the team. His name is Joe Haden.There is no Y in his name. I mean, he has been here for 4 years now.
OK, anyway ......... . Sorry. I did not mean to offend, and I hope that I didn't.
Now, back on topic.
I like the fact that we have several big and fast corners with cover ability in Haden, Gilber, and Desir. We have the ideal slot corner in Skrine. We have a kid with a year's experience in McFadden. He's a question mark, for sure. Trufant is a special teams guy only. I read an article that said that he, in limited duty, allowed completions on every pass thrown to his man against his coverage. (which wasn't many ... but still ..... 100% pass completion % against is a massive concern) I don't think that Trufant will be much of a factor on defense.
OK, not for nothing, but it's GILBERT
Sorry, had to pull your leg there a little Ytown
LOL Figures I'd have a typo in there.
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j/c Hey Tony: I am guessing you are going to get a lot of questions about WRs and Jonny Football so I thought I would ask about a different topic. Now that Haden has gotten a well-deserved monster contract and the Browns have drafted not only Gilbert with the 8th overall pick but also highly rated Pierre Desir in the fourth round, what does that mean about the future of Buster Skrine? Skrine is good slot corner but I am sure he wants more than that role with the team, he wants to be a starter and get paid like one. Do you see the Browns trying hard to resign Skrine? Or do you think Desir was drafted to eventually replace Skrine once he hits FA next season? -- Este, San Francisco, CA Hey Este: The drafting of Gilbert enables Skrine to concentrate exclusively on the slot position. That should be a welcome relief to him and get the best out of him. Last year, Skrine played on the outside in two-receiver alignments and then dropped down to cover the slot receiver in three-receiver formations. The demands of playing cornerback on the outside and inside are very different. Few players perform both roles in the same game. Desir at this time is not considered a candidate to play the slot. http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=18&post_id=33011 Skrine played on the outside in two-receiver alignments and then dropped down to cover the slot receiver in three-receiver formations I don't remember him covering the slot receiver much. is tony right?
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I do seem to recall us sometimes doubling the outside with Owens and/or McFadden, (later in the year) and allowing Skrine to play the slot some last year .....but I don't recall it being extremely common. I suppose it could be possible. I remember Owens getting burned in the slot a fair amount though .....
Let's look at week 2 against the Ravens, because he had a lot of tackles in that game.
1st down pass incomplete Skrine covered M Brown
1/2 run tackle
3rd down pass, Skrine full tackle on T Smth for 1 yard.
2nd down pass, Skrine full tackle on T Smith after 27 yard gain
Solo run tackle
3rd down and 8, Skrine full tackle on Stokley for 11 yard gain.
3rd and 10, Skrine full tackle on Stokley for 16 yards.
3rd and 3, Skrine full tackle on Stokley fr 4 yards.
3rd and 7, Skrine full tackle on Stokley for 5 yards.
That's all I can find. It seems like he moved around a bit.
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Let's look at week 2 against the Ravens, because he had a lot of tackles in that game.
just wondering if you looked at those plays? are you sure he just didn't make the tackle after someone else blew the coverage?
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Let's look at week 2 against the Ravens, because he had a lot of tackles in that game.
just wondering if you looked at those plays? are you sure he just didn't make the tackle after someone else blew the coverage?
Nope. It was just off of the CBS play by play. Like I said, I chose that game because of the fact that he had a lot of tackles. You make a good point though ...... however, having 4 consecutive tackles of a specific receiver would seem to indicate that he did cover him. (as would a couple of plays against another at another point of the game)
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Fan speculation.
See what happens when Johnny Football doesn't get face time with the press.
Now we have an excuse for anything,
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