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Emmitt Smith on Johnny Manziel: 'That lifestyle is going to be a short career lifestyle' http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/06/emmitt_smith_on_johnny_manziel.htmlBy Mary Kay Cabot, Northeast Ohio Media Group on June 25, 2014 at 4:18 PM, updated June 25, 2014 at 4:30 PM CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cowboys Hall of Fame running back Emmitt Smith is the latest former NFL veteran to warn Johnny Manziel that he better tone down the partying. "That lifestyle is going to be a short lifestyle -- a short career lifestyle -- if he continues that," Smith told 105.3 The Fan in Dallas on Tuesday. "As we used to say, you can't keep burning the candle at both ends of the stick. The candle gets small fairly quick. Johnny is going to have to figure it out. "Hopefully he's not doing anything to hurt himself outside of drinking -- which is going to harm his body and harm his performance anyway. At the end of the day, he's going to have to learn to manage those things." Smith joins former Browns quarterback Brady Quinn and other former players in cautioning the Browns rookie quarterback that he's going down the wrong road. "First, let's recognize -- Johnny is young,'' Smith said. "I was young and dumb myself at one point in time. But maturity itself, and maturing as a professional athlete, is something that is required of every pro football player. I think right now Johnny Manziel is going to get a glimpse of what negative press can do for you. A lot of people think negative press is good press -- or any press is good press. It's not." Manziel has been partying hard since the day he was drafted May 8, with most of his antics being posted on Instagram or Twitter. The adventures include a wild Memorial Day Weekend in Las Vegas with Rob Gronkowski, nights out with hip-hop artist Drake at the NFLPA Rookie Premiere in Los Angeles followed by a nap under a skirted table at an autograph event the next morning, a ride on an inflatable swan complete with the ever-present large bottle of bubbly and a money-phone video in which he dropped an f-bomb into a large stack of cash held up to his ear. But Manziel is getting more than earful of cash over the next three days at the NFL Rookie Symposium in Aurora, Ohio. Manziel will hear all about how to conduct himself off the field from former players such as ex-Browns receiver Donte Stallworth, who was convicted of DUI manslaughter in 2009. Manziel and other AFC rookies (the NFC rookies concluded their three-day seminar Wednesday) will listen to speakers for the next two days, tour the Pro Football Hall of Fame and conduct a youth Play 60 clinic at the Browns facility in Berea, Ohio on Friday. The players will then disperse until training camp begins on July 26th, and the NFL hopes its newcomers got the message. As for Manziel, he plans to do it his way for as long as he can. "I don't live my life according to you guys or according to what other people think of me,'' he said after the Vegas trip. "I'm going to live my life to the fullest and continue to be committed to this game, committed to what I need to be doing here and trying to earn my place in this locker room with these coaches, with this organization. "If I want to go out and have some fun and it doesn't hinder what my main goals in life are then I don't really care what anybody has to say.'' Maybe the words of Smith or Stallworth will sink in. (end)
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You can add Joe Montana to the list of folks willing to give Manziel some advice...
Joe Montana offers some Bill Walsh advice to Johnny Manziel
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 26, 2014, 7:34 AM EDT
Hall of Fame quarterback Joe Montana isn’t wringing his hands about the way Johnny Manziel spends his time away from football because Montana has been there before.
Montana said on NFL Network that when he was a young quarterback, he liked to go out and have a good time as well. But Montana had a coach, Bill Walsh, who kept him on track.
“I think the biggest thing is, ‘Hey you’ve made it to where you want to be. Everybody wants to have fun up there. But unfortunately, you’re in a fish bowl even more so than he was in college,’” Montana said, via ESPNCleveland.com. “I always go back to an old saying Bill Walsh told me after we won our first Super Bowl. I was going everywhere, trying to do everything. He called me in and said, ‘I just want to tell you one thing. I understand what you’re doing. We may never get back to another Super Bowl. But just remember this, the less people see you, the more they want to see you.’ So basically he was saying it’s okay to do some things, but try to cut it back, but don’t forget about football because that’s got where you to where you are and that’s what’s going to keep you there. You got to make sure you spend the time on football as much as getting out and about.”
Good advice, from a good source. Manziel should take it.
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I suppose it is splitting hairs, but this is generic advice that could be given to anyone and is not pointing fingers or chastising JM.
Quinn and Smith spoke down to JM and not to him, they came accross as dicks to me.
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Quinn and Smith spoke down to JM and not to him, they came accross as dicks to me.
I think the truth is that Emmit Smith and Joe Montana are NOT going out of their way to provide warnings about what Manziel is doing. They just aren't. What's happening is that all these reporters looking to create headlines keep asking high profile players leading questions about Manziel. I'd LOVE to see the question that was asked by the scum bag reporter that led Montana to say what he said.
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I suppose it is splitting hairs, but this is generic advice that could be given to anyone and is not pointing fingers or chastising JM.
Quinn and Smith spoke down to JM and not to him, they came accross as dicks to me.
I think the truth is that Emmit Smith and Joe Montana are NOT going out of their way to provide warnings about what Manziel is doing. They just aren't. What's happening is that all these reporters looking to create headlines keep asking high profile players leading questions about Manziel. I'd LOVE to see the question that was asked by the scum bag reporter that led Montana to say what he said.
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Sounds like he's saying be smart and keep your name out of the media. Montana is just very smart in how he sends that message.
More people are trying to tell him that. ie... Negative press isn't good press....
I don't believe most are hating on Manziel or trying to tell him not to go out and have fun. They're just telling him to use his brain, do it in a smart way and keep your name out of the headlines.
It's something he has control over and it's not that complicated.
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The real news is very sparse at the moment...even on here.
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I hope Manziel takes note that those giving him advise are not telling him not to go out and have his fun...just that he should do so in a more controlled manner that protects Manziel's career. Warren Moon thinks Manziel should tone it down Posted by Mike Florio on June 26, 2014, 11:25 PM EDT Another day, another Hall of Famer suggesting that Johnny Manziel make better decisions about what he does off the field. (Or is it another hour?) Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon recently echoed the views of several all-time greats who have concerns about the Cleveland rookie’s propensity to work hard and player harder. “My biggest problem with him and it’s something he has to get used to and temper down a little bit, all guys are gonna go out and have a good time,” Moon told Alex Marvez and Pat Kirwan of SiriusXM NFL Radio. “Quarterbacks, all different positions. But you don’t want to make it as public. You want to keep it more of a low profile when you are out having a good time. He tends to make it more of a high profile thing when he’s out, so that just opens up all this speculation and criticism by everybody out here. . . . It gives everybody a chance to have an opinion upon him. And a lot of that he brings upon himself by exposing everything that he does.” Moon explained that he went to Las Vegas while he was playing, and that he’s sure plenty of other NFL players went to Vegas on Memorial Day weekend this year. But it was Manziel who made the biggest deal of his trip — and of other stuff he has done away from work. “So he needs to be more low key about the things he does, and as long as he’s putting in the work off the field and on the field to become the best quarterback he can be, I have no problem with what he’s doing, except for the fact that he needs to keep more of a low profile,” Moon said. The good news is that Manziel apparently has kept a low profile in the week or so since the offseason program ended. He’s got another month or so until it’s time to show up for training camp. If he can keep a low profile until then, it could be that Manziel is learning what he needs to do, and to not do, as an NFL player. The media, which hasn’t had much access to Manziel since he was drafted, will get a chance to ask him what he has learned on Friday in conjunction with the Rookie Symposium. So we’ll see whether he’s repentant or defiant, and maybe by the end of the weekend we’ll see more pictures of Manziel riding large inflatable animals. web page
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Enough allready!
It's obvious JFF craves the spotlight.That is his nature and that's fine,for him.
And by God,I'd much rather have that type of QB than all those shrinking violets the Browns have trotted out since the return.
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He said today he's not going to change.
Love it.
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Love it.
Saw that.
The more the guy talks, the more I'm convinced he's going to flame out in the NFL.
Guy is a moron. Doesn't preclude you from success (see Ben, Big), but when the chips are already stacked against you, it's a bad sign.
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Love it.
Saw that.
The more the guy talks, the more I'm convinced he's going to flame out in the NFL.
Guy is a moron. Doesn't preclude you from success (see Ben, Big), but when the chips are already stacked against you, it's a bad sign.
Dude acts like a spoiled brat.
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You,Pit and Mac kill me.
You get on a political thread and from high atop your soap box,preach about freedom and individuality.Now in the case of little johnny rotten,because he is not conforming to your standards of how a QB should behave,he's a moron,a punk,a spoiled brat.
If I could give JFF advice,I'd tell him to ignore these people,they are either jealous or just plain old fashioned hypocrites.
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You get on a political thread and from high atop your soap box,preach about freedom and individuality.Now in the case of little johnny rotten,because he is not conforming to your standards of how a QB should behave,he's a moron,a punk,a spoiled brat.
If I could give JFF advice,I'd tell him to ignore these people,they are either jealous or just plain old fashioned hypocrites.
Wow. That's a lot of babbling.
My comments have nothing to do with conformity. They have to do with Manziel's intelligence level, which doesn't appear to be very high.
I'd prefer an intelligent mind at the QB position.
I don't really care about the rest of it. Guy can go out and get hammered every night for all I care. Just be smart about it.
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so it's not that he gets hammered, it's the way he gets hammered?
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Yes. There's a choice of doing it in a low profile manner that wouldn't put him in the headlines, then there's the attitude "To hell with everyone" and showing your backside.
One is a smart way of being professional in how you conduct what you do and the other just fans the flames. If you don't see the difference, that's fine. But he certainly either isn't using his head or he craves the publicity. Pick your poison.
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And to add, you think it's fine that he painted the picture he had settled down and openly stated things wouldn't be this way once he turned pro. He played the part until he was drafted.
Then turns around and suddenly is back to how he was before? The funny thing is, if it were a player of another team, most would say he pulled the wool over the team who drafted him. That he put on an act until he got his paycheck.
But hey, it's Johnny Football, right?
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Love it.
The dude is an egomaniac. I agree with the other poster who said he is acting like a spoiled brat. You hope to be the "captain" of a billion dollar enterprise, and you think its OK showcase you acting the fool to the world?  Not good leadership there.
Yes he isnt the only one partying, he isnt your average nfl player, and he needs to adjust how his free time comes out to the media. Unfortuantely he doesnt think he needs to change, he even said his teamates are getting annoyed with the "circus". Hey johnny, wanna help your teammates out? Do everything you can to avoid fanning the flames of TMZ, and social media.
Entitled and egomaniac are the two words I would use to describe JM after that press conference.
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Why do you think he lacks intelligence?
I've never read or seen anything that would suggest that.
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Love it.
The dude is an egomaniac. I agree with the other poster who said he is acting like a spoiled brat. You hope to be the "captain" of a billion dollar enterprise, and you think its OK showcase you acting the fool to the world? Not good leadership there.
Yes he isnt the only one partying, he isnt your average nfl player, and he needs to adjust how his free time comes out to the media. Unfortuantely he doesnt think he needs to change, he even said his teamates are getting annoyed with the "circus". Hey johnny, wanna help your teammates out? Do everything you can to avoid fanning the flames of TMZ, and social media.
Entitled and egomaniac are the two words I would use to describe JM after that press conference.
Then don't root for him.
Except if he wins. I can guarantee you that fans that take this stance, will cheer his name if he wins. They will somehow say the wins means he's matured and they will justify their erratic behavior with things that make no sense. Of course if he flops, you're covered.
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I will agree the money phone thing was really. really dumb.
Vegas and the drink from the champagne bottle seem like non issues to me.
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Most of these guys hate the whole Johnny Football persona and no matter what he does,they will find fault.
I'm sick and tired of watching the same old boring crap football.At least with Manziel we might still lose,but it's going to be exciting.And I crave excitement.
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Wow, a 21 year old that just got paid millions does something silly with a pile of money while drinking. I'd have to say most of us on this board have done something equally or even more stupid in our lifetime. I did plenty of things in college that would qualify me as stupid if you are using the above as an example of intelligence.
A football coach calling his player dumb. Wow, I bet that has never happened in the history of football.
Look, I don't care for his behavior, but I'd say he may lack more common sense than intelligence. Common sense comes along at different times for people, sometimes it never comes, but it is usually gained as you get older. I hope these escapades do not affect his football - if they do, then there is a problem. If not, non-issue.
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Correct. We shouldn't confuse intelligence with maturity or experience or anything else. PDR, I can post a link to Manziel's wonderlic score of 32. Does that make me or you more correct? The point is, I can find things that support my viewpoint too. The guy is not lacking for intelligence or confidence, and that's a good thing. It's a refreshing change from all the 'deer in the headlight' QBs we've had here before. At least we have a guy who believes in himself. And the other thing I find completely hilarious is that most people aren't mad about what Johnny is doing ... they are mad that he's not hiding it. There's some logic for you. As if by hiding it, that would make him a better QB. 
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Excellent point.
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Cleveland Browns tell Johnny Manziel to tone it down after money phone video, per report BEREA, Ohio -- Browns owner Jimmy Haslam wasn't happy with Johnny Manziel's money phone video, and the club has told him to tone it down, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported Friday on NFL Insiders. In the video, Manziel, barely able to keep his eyes open, pretends a stack of cash is his phone and shouts into it, 'I can't hear you! I have too much money in my f------ hand!' "It did not sit well with the owner Jimmy Haslam, who did instruct his staff to at least have a talk with Johnny about being more savvy as he deals with social media," Mort said on ESPN Insiders, via thebiglead.com. "We know you're young. We know you're single. Joe Montana himself said that Bill Walsh pulled him aside, and that was before the age of social media. Johnny Manziel has been told to tone it down, and to watch what goes up on social media." Manziel was asked specifically Friday morning at a Play 60 youth clinic here if the Browns had told him to tone down the partying, and he said no. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss..._medium=twitter
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Wow, a 21 year old that just got paid millions does something silly with a pile of money while drinking. I'd have to say most of us on this board have done something equally or even more stupid in our lifetime. I did plenty of things in college that would qualify me as stupid if you are using the above as an example of intelligence.
A football coach calling his player dumb. Wow, I bet that has never happened in the history of football.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you trying to argue the fact that people have done unintelligent things is evidence that they're not unintelligent things?
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I agree but it certainly warrants concern or trepidation.
He's already got very low odds of NFL success. There's a lot to overcome in that regard. Intelligence is certainly a factor in whether or not he can do that.
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PDR, I can post a link to Manziel's wonderlic score of 32. Does that make me or you more correct? The point is, I can find things that support my viewpoint too.
If you want to weigh evidence point by point, yeah, I'd take that one to trial. There's a better case to be made that he's a dunce than bright.
In the end, what he does on the field is what counts. And things don't look very bright there, either. Time will tell, though.
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Better QB? No.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you trying to argue the fact that people have done unintelligent things is evidence that they're not unintelligent things?
No, you are calling JM unintelligent because he is doing those things - I agree that us more mature folks would not considered what he is doing "intelligent" or "common sense", but that does NOT make HIM unintelligent. I'm sure I could string together a lot of stupid things I did on the weekends down at OU over the course of 4 years that one might say were unintelligent due to the repetitive nature of doing them again and again. In a nutshell, the kid needs to grow up, but he is only 21. I was certainly NOT grown up at 21 and God only knows what I would have done if I had millions of dollars in my pocket.
I would like him to tone it down, however if it doesn't affect his performance and it isn't illegal then I really don't care - time will tell on that one. I do like the kids confidence, we can certainly use that around here.
I also agree that the cards are stacked against him, just as they are for about every player drafted in the NFL - especially QB's.
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I agree.
But as I've said, coming in, I didn't want us to touch him with a ten foot pole for many reasons, but the big three were - size, questions of work ethic, and intelligence.
Number one is something he'll always have to deal with. Number two is something to keep an eye on, but I'm not totally on board with the crowd that thinks all this idiocy of late is indicative of a lack there. That's a wait and see type deal. But number three...I feel those fears are being realized. I think the guy is a dunce, and thus far he's done nothing but prove my theory right.
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None of this moralizing has anything to do with winning football games. It's just that simple. Johnny hasn't been responsible for one interception, one fumble, he hasn't been paralyzed behind the LOS and unable to find his read. Yet so many want to tell him how to live his life, send him for an evaluation or whatever. I almost want him to start early just to shut up the self-righteous hypocrites.
Then there is all the incessant questioning of teammates. Yeah, its a distraction because the media has a hard-on for Johnny.
Then there are fans who are probably the same ones whining about "no body wants to come to Cleveland" who are wagging their fingers in his face about holding a Champagne bottle or using salty language on a social media entry, as if that's a felony one offense.
There is one indisputable antidote to all of this. Win football games Johnny and the lemmings will all bow down.
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Wonder what is going to transpire when the pads go on ? 
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None of this moralizing has anything to do with winning football games.
Where have I moralized?
Or was that just a general comment?
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Report: Jimmy Haslam wants Johnny Manziel to tone it down Posted by Michael David Smith on June 27, 2014, 6:17 PM EDT It’s not just fans and members of the media who are focusing on the off-field activities of Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel. Browns owner Jimmy Haslam is also taking notice — and he doesn’t like what he sees. That’s the word from Chris Mortensen of ESPN, who reported on the air today that Haslam wants Manziel to tone it down. Haslam was apparently bothered by the video that surfaced of Manziel holding a large stack of cash up to his ear, pretending it was a phone, and saying, “”I can’t hear you. There’s too much money in my f–king hand.” “It did not sit well with the owner Jimmy Haslam, who did instruct his staff to at least have a talk with Johnny about being more savvy as he deals with social media,” Mortensen said, via Cleveland.com. “We know you’re young. We know you’re single. Joe Montana himself said that Bill Walsh pulled him aside, and that was before the age of social media. Johnny Manziel has been told to tone it down, and to watch what goes up on social media.” But while Haslam may have passed that message along, Manziel apparently didn’t get it: Manziel has already declared that he won’t change his ways. And while Haslam may have a point that Manziel would be better off toning things down off the field, one wonders: What did Haslam expect? Haslam excitedly said after the Browns drafted Manziel that everyone in Cleveland — even homeless people — was excited about Johnny Football. The Johnny Football persona isn’t just about what Manziel did on the field at Texas A&M, any more than the Broadway Joe persona was all about what Joe Namath did on the football field. When Haslam’s Browns drafted Johnny Manziel, they knew they were getting Johnny Football as part of the bargain. web page
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Then don't root for him.
Except if he wins. I can guarantee you that fans that take this stance, will cheer his name if he wins. They will somehow say the wins means he's matured and they will justify their erratic behavior with things that make no sense. Of course if he flops, you're covered.
Don't root for the Cleveland browns qb, yeah, like I could do that even if I tried. You can't see how many fans take this stance and will still root for him? Not sure why you are tryng to make it white and black. I think him being undersized will be a bigger hurdle than his partying. I don't even think he parties that much more than your average nfl rookie.
I wonder how many American workers would be ok with their partying being sent company wide? I know I wouldn't. Just because you want the current face of your franchise to represent the Browns is a positive light, doesn't mean you are rooting against him. I think most fans are ok with his partying, they just want him to be more accountable for the impact of his partying.
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