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Cutting Karasev would do nothing, as his deal is guaranteed .... and trading anyone without taking someone back is always difficult.
I never said they would cut him. I said trade him.
There are plenty of teams that have cap space that would be willing to take on the salary of a guy who was drafted in the first round last year. The Suns, 76ers, and Magic all come to mind.
I don't see any need to move him right now. If they trade Jack and Cut Carrick, then they have all the space they need for a max deal for James.
I am not saying that they won't trade Karasev ...... but I will say that Blatt is familiar with him ....... and we will be looking for outside shooters if Lebron returns. Karasev is supposed to possess good range up to NBA 3 point range, and is a capable passer. (which is what Blatt's offense will require)
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I really hope we have some other moves in mind if LBJ stays, Besides Haywood we have almost no bigs (I don't trust AV to stay healthy)
Even if we do get James AND trade for Love.. I still think we need a true Center..
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I really hope we have some other moves in mind if LBJ stays, Besides Haywood we have almost no bigs (I don't trust AV to stay healthy)
Even if we do get James AND trade for Love.. I still think we need a true Center..
LOL If we have Lebron, Love, Irving, and Wiggins ...... I think that Andy and Zeller would do just fine in the middle.  Thompson can also play some Center, though he not the ideal candidate.
The Heat had Bosh and Chris Anderson, largely, at Center. If you have enough talent everywhere else, you can afford a single weak spot.  In fact, it's almost a certainty that you will have a weak spot.
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Utah are idiots even if they resign him. I read he wanted 4 yrs 52 million, and they only wanted to offer 4 yrs 48 million. Well now get ready to pay 63 million over 4. Why make a stink over 4 million?
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Well ... Cleveland really wanted him until the possibility of Lebron re-emerged .... so hopefully Lenbron comes back ..... or else this flirtation may have screwed up the Cavaliers again.
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Thats what i dont like lebron taking so much time. Just out of respect for the teams..he is holding up free agency for some. But the cavs cant pass up the opportunity.once in a lifetime situation..
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My hope is that he is doing it to allow the Cavs to make the moves they need to.
But my dark and cynical side says the longer this goes on the longer DWade, Riley, and Lebron have to plot and plan and The Cavs look like suckers...... AGAIN
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Yep, the Cavs are being used again... by lebron and his coattail riders.
They are laughing at us fan and everybody else as they hold teams and other players hostage.
I am starting to hope the little three go back, get melo and dominate the league for the next 5 years... it may spell the end of the NBA as we know it as fans lose interest in watching a bought "team" win. Works for me.
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If the Heat have LeBron, Melo, Bosh, and Wade... They may never win another title..
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I guess not everyone is avoiding Wiggins http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234177/Andrew -Wiggins-Signs-10-Year-$100M-Endorsement-Deal-With -Adidas
We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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Wiggins signed with Adidas? Now we're REALLY not getting LeBron back... Shoulda drafted Jordan Brand.. I mean, Parker... 
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Marc J. Spears of Yahoo! Sports previously reported the contract as being worth close to $100 million over 10 years, but that Tweet was subsequently deleted. Spears later reported that it is a five-year deal worth approximately $12 million to $13 million.
Adidas doesn't have Nike money..
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Well ... Cleveland really wanted him until the possibility of Lebron re-emerged .... so hopefully Lenbron comes back ..... or else this flirtation may have screwed up the Cavaliers again.
Or it may of just saved us from signing Gordon Hayward to a max deal.
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Marc J. Spears of Yahoo! Sports previously reported the contract as being worth close to $100 million over 10 years, but that Tweet was subsequently deleted. Spears later reported that it is a five-year deal worth approximately $12 million to $13 million.
Adidas doesn't have Nike money..
ha, No doubt.
Just thought I'did throw out something that wasn't rehashed to hell and back
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MSN website is reporting it a 90% done deal he is going back to the cavs
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/free-...s-lakers-063014
They're just reporting the Sheridan story.
The latest from windhorst is that the whole Miami contingent is meeting with Lebron today. If you remember, it was reported that Lebron said he didn't need to meet with them in FA. This may be a last ditch effort. I truly believe that little jab at Lebron in Riley's presser is factoring in a bit here.
Nothing is done yet but this is pointing towards him leaving Miami.
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On the main MSN site they had a headline its 90% done deal then the link.
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Well ... Cleveland really wanted him until the possibility of Lebron re-emerged .... so hopefully Lenbron comes back ..... or else this flirtation may have screwed up the Cavaliers again.
Or it may of just saved us from signing Gordon Hayward to a max deal.
Well ..... I don't know a whole lot about him ....... but 15/5/5 would look really good at SF, if we don't get Lebron back. (and from what I understand, he could be even better with slasher/cutters like Irving and Waiters to play with and hit him on the wing)
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@JarrettJack03: I got news
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ESPN sources say Brooklyn Nets on verge of acquiring Jarrett Jack from Cleveland in three-team deal
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ESPN sources say Brooklyn Nets on verge of acquiring Jarrett Jack from Cleveland in three-team deal
Three-team trade will see Nets acquire Jarrett Jack and Sergey Karasev from Cleveland. Boston gets Thornton, Zeller and a first
Boston is third team in deal will acquire Tyler Zeller from Cleveland as well as future first-rounder and Marcus Thornton from Nets
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Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m
ESPN sources say Brooklyn Nets on verge of acquiring Jarrett Jack from Cleveland in three-team deal
They have been trying to move him out for weeks now .... even before the possibility of Lebron coming back.
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I don't see what we got out of the trade?
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I don't see what we got out of the trade?
Cap space this year and/or next.
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yeah i figured that..so basically because of the 3 team deal, we basically take nothing back...Sounds to me like Cavs know something about the LBJ situation...giving up Jack is one thing, but to give up karasev and zeller just to rid yourself of Jack's contract..not sure that would be the best. I think the first rounder boston got is from nets right?
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It's a terrible trade in a vacuum. Only makes sense if you are going to use that cap room immediately....
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Thats what I'm thinking...That has to be the precursor to something going down relatively quickly
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I guess rumor has it rich paul contacted cavs this morning and said make room for max contract...
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I would assume it's our first rounder.
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I would assume it's our first rounder.
it says future first and marcus thorton from nets...and nets fans are pissed they keep giving boston their firsts..lol
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It's an awful trade, giving up Jack, Karasev, Zeller, and a 1st, for a "sizable trade exception" ........ terrible if Lebron goes anywhere but Cleveland. If he comes here, then maybe it helps you also bring in Kevin Love. If not ...... then it's just more space.
Man, they have to have a good feeling to make this kind of trade. They have no bigs ..... and to give up a solid backup in Zeller just to make room, along with Karasev and a 1st rounder ..... is a big price to pay.
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that was from a credible source too. It was from Adrian Wojnarowski
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It's an awful trade, giving up Jack, Karasev, Zeller, and a 1st, for a "sizable trade exception" ........ terrible if Lebron goes anywhere but Cleveland. If he comes here, then maybe it helps you also bring in Kevin Love. If not ...... then it's just more space.
Man, they have to have a good feeling to make this kind of trade. They have no bigs ..... and to give up a solid backup in Zeller just to make room, along with Karasev and a 1st rounder ..... is a big price to pay.
I'm pretty sure the first is from the nets. Just the way it reads to me anyways
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2016 1st rounder is from Cavs per a source. Cavs create a sizable trade exception. That's another great asset to use to surround LeBron w/.
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For what it's worth.
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it's our 2016 first.
if thats the case..not as big a deal, that means we still have potentially all 3 next year
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2016 1st rounder is from Cavs per a source. Cavs create a sizable trade exception. That's another great asset to use to surround LeBron w/.
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For what it's worth.
hmmm maybe this is a lebron and love deal
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Worth the risk.
Zeller improved a lot, but he's still a stiff and so is Karasev. And we wanted Jack gone.
I would assume the first is lottery protected.
If he doesn't come here, you don't get burned too bad, and if he does you've got room to bring in a shooter.
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2016 1st rounder is from Cavs per a source. Cavs create a sizable trade exception. That's another great asset to use to surround LeBron w/.
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For what it's worth.
hmmm maybe this is a lebron and love deal
It sure looks like a lot of wheels are turning. Hopefully they are moving in the direction we want.
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