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You are speaking of the Dems that stood up and applauded Obama when he just about told them that they were unnecessary during the recent State of the union address ,I hope. :

The absolute WORST president of all time? I wouldn't agree to that, but wouldn't necessarily disagree with it. Top three worst president of all time - oh hell yeah I'd agree to that in a split freaking second!

nobody has yet to provide examples of why he's even in the top 3.

If you 'need' examples, then...

From what I gather, Obama supporters are die hard. Talking sense into them is difficult to near impossible. That man could cut their baby with a knife, and for whatever black magic or reasoning - they will still support him and stand by all his wrongs and attempt to justify them as rights.

I've virtually made a vow to just stop wasting time arguing with Obama supporters both in-person and online environments. It's equivalent to talking to my cat. Yeah, they make eye contact. Yeah, they may even make a noise or two - but they don't soak in the facts and details. In one ear, out the other and I swear if I hear "well Bush did that" or "Bush did this" when trying to have a sensible argument with an Obama supporter, I may lose the rest of my hair!

Not trying to rip on ya Swish bro, or disrespect - it just is what it is.

Are u serious ? I dont think anyone could site any thing that you would agree with, so why waste the time.

If it's logical and makes sense, I have no problems agreeing with it. Even if that makes it clear/an admission of being wrong. However, I've yet to ecnounter much logical statement/points to agree on in support of Obama. Few things yes, but mostly no.

JMO

Actually Dawg I was replying to Swish,s post sorry for the confusion

You don't really know how utterly stupid you sound, do you?

He's right about the first statement

JC

I can't say if Obama is the worst, but I don't think he's been good for this country. I think we elected him because after how terrible GWB managed things, the nation really rallied behind his "change" campaign.

As for why Obama hasn't been great for this country? I'll list a few:

- Obamacare is terrible because we're stuck with a broken government run system that is only MARGINALLY better than what we had before. Republicans will spend the next 20 years fighting what little gains Obamacare got us and Democrats will spend the next 20 years gleaming over their "great accomplishment."

- Government privacy invasion has greatly increased under this administration, and we'll never get it back, no matter who comes in office after him.

- His lack of gumption on foreign policy matters has set us back a great deal as an international player.

Granted, I can say similar things about other presidents. GWB had us go into Iraq for what seems like NO POINT and we sacrificed alot of lives on a scrap of earth only useful for whats underneath it. Reagan set the economic stage to create the wide wage gaps we see today and acted very imperialistically in foreign matters, etc.

To call Obama the worst is probably our mind playing favoritism with memories of past presidents, but I do think he's been more hurtful than helpful. Just my 2c

I Told You So: Obama Really Stole the Election


I don’t mean to say, “I told you so”…But I told you so.

In October of 2012, just before the election, we heard miraculous unemployment reports that made it sound like the economy was turning around. Hundreds of thousands of jobs were supposedly created. Happy days were here again. “Bravo Obama,” said the adoring mainstream media. It was the biggest one month jobs increase ever.

But I smelled a rat. I warned again and again in the media that “the books were cooked.” I screamed this was pure fraud and the voters were being scammed. I accused Obama and his friends in the government employees union of fixing the election. Democrats and the mainstream media (I know, I repeat myself) called those charges “preposterous.” They said it was impossible to fake jobs reports.

Surprise, surprise, guess who was right? It turns out government employees faked the jobs reports to re-elect Obama. They wanted the man who protects their bloated salaries, obscene pensions, and corrupt unions, to be re-elected. They would stop at nothing to keep the gravy train rolling, so they made up reports about job increases out of thin air.

The entire election was pure fraud. Based on fantasy. Americans walked into the voting booths hearing fresh news that indicated the economy was improving and jobs were dramatically increasing. It was all fake. The numbers were made up out of thin air by pro-Obama government employees. The voters of America made their final decisions based on pure fraud.
Worse this fraud endangered our entire economy. The Federal Reserve bases billion dollar decisions, like interest rate hikes and quantitative easing, on jobs reports. If those job increases don’t actually exist, the Fed is moving in the wrong direction. Crimes were committed that falsely elected a President and could cause billion dollar damages for years to come to the U.S. economy.

But wait, that’s only the latest reported fraud that stole the election.

Even before the election Obama knew that tens of millions of Americans would lose their health insurance. Yet he knowingly committed fraud by personally lying to the American people. Not once, but repeatedly. He didn’t just tell intentional lies to pass Obamacare, he told those same lies during his re-election campaign to deceive the American voters and get reelected.

Did Obama commit intentional fraud? Without a doubt. His own administration internal estimates were that MOST Americans covered by employer plans would lose their insurance. Obama’s own projections show that 80 percent of small businesses were doomed to lose their insurance.


Did Obama commit intentional fraud? Without a doubt.
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All of this was known while he told us “If you like your insurance, you can keep it.” Obama’s re-election was based on this fraud. Who would have re-elected Obama if they knew most of us were about to lose our insurance, our doctor, our hospital, our medical choices, and our livelihood- based on a doubling or tripling of insurance rates?

But even that wasn’t enough. Still worried about his re-election chances, Obama ordered the IRS to distract, intimidate, persecute and destroy his political opposition- Tea Parties and conservative critics like me. Rather than spending time and money on stopping Obama, many conservatives were forced to waste our time, energy and money fighting IRS attacks.

I Told You So: Obama Really Stole the Election
Internal Revenue Service Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division revenue agent Elizabeth Hofacre (L) and retired IRS tax law specialist Carter Hull testify before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee in the Rayburn House Office Building on Capitol Hill July 18, 2013 in Washington, DC. The witnesses testified as part of the committee’s ongoing investigation into claims that the IRS systematically delayed and scrutinized applications for tax exempt status from organizations with the words ‘Tea Party’ and ‘patriot’ in their names.

The IRS attack directed by Obama effectively neutered the energy and passion of the Tea Parties, conservative fundraisers, and critics that only two years before had produced the biggest landslide since 1936. With the IRS running roughshod over Tea Parties, the energy was gone, and Obama was re-elected. Pure election fraud.

You question whether Obama ordered the IRS attacks? Well, during this exact period of IRS persecution, the head of the IRS visited the White House more than any other person. The head of the IRS employees union visited Obama the night before the IRS attacks began.

If any of this were known before the election would Obama have been re-elected?
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But it gets worse. The voting ballots of our military troops were suppressed. And, why do you think Democrats fight so hard against voter identification?

We’ll never know how many Obama supporters voted illegally, or multiple times. We’ll never know how 59 inner city voting districts in Philadelphia wound up with 30,000 to -0- vote totals in favor of Obama. Or, similar totals in multiple districts around the country, including all-important Ohio. We’ll never know the affect of voter intimidation by Black Panthers at Philadelphia polling places, or Democrat judges ordering GOP poll watchers out for several hours at Philadelphia polling places.

Then just when you think it can’t get any worse, it does. Think Benghazi. Never hesitant to commit fraud, Obama told a story about a nonexistent protest, over a movie no one in the Middle East ever saw. This fraud was either committed to cover up the disaster of Obama’s foreign policy, and provide cover for his statement that Al Qaeda was effectively crushed, or to provide cover for an administration giving arms to rebels who turned around and used those same guns to kill our own Ambassador and three other brave Americans. Either way if the truth about Benghazi was known, would America have re-elected Obama?

Benghazi
In this Friday, Sept. 14, 2012 file photo, Libyan military guards check one of the U.S. Consulate’s burnt out buildings during a visit by Libyan President Mohammed el-Megarif, not shown, to the U.S. Consulate to express sympathy for the death of the American ambassador, Chris Stevens and his colleagues in the deadly attack on the Consulate last Tuesday, September 11, in Benghazi, Libya. Britain’s Foreign Office urged U.K. nationals to immediately leave the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi in response to an imminent threat against Westerners. The Arabic on the building reads, “God is Great, and there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger.” (AP)


Add it up. The 2012 Presidential election was stolen based on the cover-up of murder in Benghazi, a mafia-like conspiracy to use the IRS to silence free speech and destroy Obama’s political opposition, fraudulent health care promises, and fraudulent jobs reports. The Gambino crime family hasn’t got anything on Obama.

In 2000 Democrats talked about a President getting elected under “illegitimate terms.” Well look who perfected the art. Barack Obama committed pure fraud to win re-election. If this doesn’t rise to the level of impeachment, nothing ever will.
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/i-told-you-so-obama-really-stole-the-election/

Picking Sarah Palin sure didn't help much, either.

j/c

Did you notice if you ask people who they voted for in the presidential election, only the die hard democrats are admitting they voted for Obama. He is wiping out the democrat's lead with independent voters and slowly losing the mid term elections. He better get back on that sacred street corner in Chicago.

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I call BS. not the view of most Americans? Y'all been calling doomsday and saying Obama was trash and a commie and a socialist and a Muslim non citizen since he became president.

Yet he got voted in... Twice.

Which says two things: you're statement is full of it. And he's not the worst president.

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Now flip that statement around... y'all been saying Bush was on cocaine and a deserter and a fascist.. yet he got elected: Twice... so does it say the same two things? That you are full of it and he's not the worst President?

I stand corrected. You didn't say greatest. Therefore I edit my response and say since W was elected twice he isn't among the worst presidents based on your standard.