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However, what if it turns out, as some have said, that Gordon missed a test because of questionable circumstances while on vacation, but tested clean the next day? I am NOT saying that he would have been right to do so ..... but it certainly would be a different circumstance than refusing to take a test, or failing one.
We DON'T KNOW for certain what those circumstances are. People are making a lot of assumptions at this point, and I am willing to wait to see what the NFL does. As far as him blowing a 0.09 ..... yeah, that was stupid, especially while he was under this drug suspension cloud ...... but I bet that most people have done that, only got away with it. I read a story on one of the sports sites that opined that Gordon will probably plead that down to a lesser charge.
If, and this is a HUGE IF, (before anyone flips out) If Gordon missed a test because of questionable circumstances, tested clean the next day, and then has his DUI reduced to a lesser charge ...... then what does the NFL do? By the letter of the law they could still suspend him for the year for missing a test .... but would they take those extenuating circumstances into account? I don't know.
Again, before anyone flips put, I am NOT saying that this is what happened .... but just laying out a possible scenario where me might not be suspended for the entire year. He must have had some basis for his appeal for it to be taking this long. (at least I would think so, and I don't know the whole procedure for appeals, and neither do any of the rest of us)
We will have to wait and see what happens. Last year, Richard Sherman won his appeal, I don't know the circumstances of his appeal, but what if he missed a test because he was on vacation, and made it up the next day with a clean test? Again, this is all conjecture. I am just laying out possible and plausible explanations for how he might possibly (though is still unlikely IMHO) escape a year long suspension. Again, for those who have trouble with this concept, I am just laying out a possibility. I am not saying it is likely. will happen, pr even giving odds. I think that it is a long shot .... but I am willing to wait and see how things wash out becaue NONE of us know FOR SURE what the circumstances were.
Sorry, the yelling wasn't for you. I just get tired of having words put into my mouth. .
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Is a cricket chirping in here?  Just kidding .... I try not to ignore anyone ...... other than an intentional, unofficial ignore. Sorry, did you say something? I'm not going to bother with you anymore. I made my point, you don't agree, (and/or just make up stuff I said) and that's fine. Have a nice day. I mean that sincerely too.
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If all that happened is he missed a test because he was in Europe, but was able to take the test the next day and passed, I don't see how he can be suspended for a year. It's not like you can teleport from Europe to the USA instantaneously.
So which is it, did he fail the test or miss the test.
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So which is it, did he fail the test or miss the test.
The people that know the answer to that are not talking. The NFL office will never say which is which and if he failed a test I'm sure Gordon would have it put out there that he just "missed" a test. Remember the whole "Codine for Strep Throat". Well that is what he said, no one knows if it was the truth or he was really drinking "Purple Drank".
I still think he is going to be suspended for the year. Just a Butch Davis Gut Feeling. Too much negative press from this guy, NFL usually like to drop the hammer on guys for that.
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The NFL will never say one way or the other. The only thing that NFL will announce is any penalty, and under which policy the player was guilty.
I think that all the NFL said about Sherman was that his suspension was overturned, and that was it.
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We'll know. Someone, whether it's the NFL or not, breaks the story on why they failed the test. We knew that Josh's earlier one was because they found codeine in his system and we knew that Joe failed because of Adderall. We'll know once the ruling comes down.
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already do. story broke 2nd day of draft.
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already do. story broke 2nd day of draft.
No we don't or this wouldn't be the discussion. We know he failed, not why he failed. The second part is what I'm talking about.
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already do. story broke 2nd day of draft.
No we don't or this wouldn't be the discussion. We know he failed, not why he failed. The second part is what I'm talking about.
well lets see. every one on the team now say he needs help. his agent say he will talk to the browns to get the help he needs. but all that is over a missed drug test? lmao. like I said before. doesn't take a brick house to fall on me.
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Neither. You--and others---have deflected the blame away from Gordon throughout this process.
He knew the rules. He broke them. Repeatedly. It's his fault. It's not the fault of the NFL or society.
You're right vers.. it doesn't matter what your upbringing was like, it doesn't matter what your role models were like, it doesn't matter how you saw your future or the people you associated with... damn it the day somebody hands you a check and a rule book you should just automatically mature and change your ways... It's that simple.
I'm pretty sure that everybody here realizes that the decisions that Josh Gordon has made come right back to Josh Gordon first and foremost and that he is ultimately accountable for them. Having some sympathy for him because he was never taught to make better decisions, he never had role models who made better decisions, trying to understand why he made bad decisions so you can help him.... that doesn't make you an excuse maker, it makes you a human being.
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Neither. You--and others---have deflected the blame away from Gordon throughout this process.
He knew the rules. He broke them. Repeatedly. It's his fault. It's not the fault of the NFL or society.
You're right vers.. it doesn't matter what your upbringing was like, it doesn't matter what your role models were like, it doesn't matter how you saw your future or the people you associated with... damn it the day somebody hands you a check and a rule book you should just automatically mature and change your ways... It's that simple.
I'm pretty sure that everybody here realizes that the decisions that Josh Gordon has made come right back to Josh Gordon first and foremost and that he is ultimately accountable for them. Having some sympathy for him because he was never taught to make better decisions, he never had role models who made better decisions, trying to understand why he made bad decisions so you can help him.... that doesn't make you an excuse maker, it makes you a human being.
Then there are some of us who don't care about his predicament, but believe the NFL rules are archaic and a joke and that they should be changed.
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Neither. You--and others---have deflected the blame away from Gordon throughout this process.
He knew the rules. He broke them. Repeatedly. It's his fault. It's not the fault of the NFL or society.
You're right vers.. it doesn't matter what your upbringing was like, it doesn't matter what your role models were like, it doesn't matter how you saw your future or the people you associated with... damn it the day somebody hands you a check and a rule book you should just automatically mature and change your ways... It's that simple.
I'm pretty sure that everybody here realizes that the decisions that Josh Gordon has made come right back to Josh Gordon first and foremost and that he is ultimately accountable for them. Having some sympathy for him because he was never taught to make better decisions, he never had role models who made better decisions, trying to understand why he made bad decisions so you can help him.... that doesn't make you an excuse maker, it makes you a human being.
its called addiction. his parents probably smoked too. runs in the family.
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already do. story broke 2nd day of draft.
No we don't or this wouldn't be the discussion. We know he failed, not why he failed. The second part is what I'm talking about.
well lets see. every one on the team now say he needs help. his agent say he will talk to the browns to get the help he needs. but all that is over a missed drug test? lmao. like I said before. doesn't take a brick house to fall on me.
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already do. story broke 2nd day of draft.
No we don't or this wouldn't be the discussion. We know he failed, not why he failed. The second part is what I'm talking about.
well lets see. every one on the team now say he needs help. his agent say he will talk to the browns to get the help he needs. but all that is over a missed drug test? lmao. like I said before. doesn't take a brick house to fall on me.
You're cherry picking vague reports to meet your expectations.
your whole argument is based on his friend greg little saying that it wasn't his fault. that's where the missed drug test rumor came from.
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well. who am I to disagree? 
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already do. story broke 2nd day of draft.
No we don't or this wouldn't be the discussion. We know he failed, not why he failed. The second part is what I'm talking about.
well lets see. every one on the team now say he needs help. his agent say he will talk to the browns to get the help he needs. but all that is over a missed drug test? lmao. like I said before. doesn't take a brick house to fall on me.
You're cherry picking vague reports to meet your expectations.
your whole argument is based on his friend greg little saying that it wasn't his fault. that's where the missed drug test rumor came from.
I'm not the one making an argument here it's you. All I said is that we'll see when they announce it. And since then I've been responding to your misinformation.
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Neither. You--and others---have deflected the blame away from Gordon throughout this process.
He knew the rules. He broke them. Repeatedly. It's his fault. It's not the fault of the NFL or society.
You're right vers.. it doesn't matter what your upbringing was like, it doesn't matter what your role models were like, it doesn't matter how you saw your future or the people you associated with... damn it the day somebody hands you a check and a rule book you should just automatically mature and change your ways... It's that simple.
I'm pretty sure that everybody here realizes that the decisions that Josh Gordon has made come right back to Josh Gordon first and foremost and that he is ultimately accountable for them. Having some sympathy for him because he was never taught to make better decisions, he never had role models who made better decisions, trying to understand why he made bad decisions so you can help him.... that doesn't make you an excuse maker, it makes you a human being.
its called addiction. his parents probably smoked too. runs in the family.
It is kind of funny though, there is almost zero information available on Gordon before college. About you can find is he went to HS at Lamar in Houston, Tx... and I honestly have no idea if that is low income neighborhood school or anything... we all just kind of make the assumption that he was born a poor black child... (sorry I did that in my best Steve Martin voice).. 
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already do. story broke 2nd day of draft.
No we don't or this wouldn't be the discussion. We know he failed, not why he failed. The second part is what I'm talking about.
well lets see. every one on the team now say he needs help. his agent say he will talk to the browns to get the help he needs. but all that is over a missed drug test? lmao. like I said before. doesn't take a brick house to fall on me.
You're cherry picking vague reports to meet your expectations.
your whole argument is based on his friend greg little saying that it wasn't his fault. that's where the missed drug test rumor came from.
I'm not the one making an argument here it's you. All I said is that we'll see when they announce it. And since then I've been responding to your misinformation.
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and I pointed out it already happened.
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This and "it was beyond his control" doesn't sound like a failed test due to drug use.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cleve...ive-test-052214
and again. based on his friend greg little.
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This and "it was beyond his control" doesn't sound like a failed test due to drug use.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cleve...ive-test-052214
and again. based on his friend greg little.
Which offers as much, or more detail than any other report.
We still have no real firm idea what his 1st suspension was for. We have his story, and that's it. The NFL does issue statements other than the nature of the violation and the penalty. That's it,
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And I pointed out that it didn't. This again, is me challenging your misinformation.
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This and "it was beyond his control" doesn't sound like a failed test due to drug use.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cleve...ive-test-052214
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Which offers as much, or more detail than any other report.
We still have no real firm idea what his 1st suspension was for. We have his story, and that's it. The NFL does issue statements other than the nature of the violation and the penalty. That's it,
except the one that is in the know for the nfl and said he failed a drug test.
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you will have to explain. I thought it was broke the second day of the draft? I thought it was clear. he failed a drug test is what the report was. it didn't say missed it said failed. the only one that said it might be different is greg little his friend. not his agent. not the coach. not the players he play with. they all say he needs help. like I said. doesn't take a brick house.
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Again, to the people playing this game at home, this is not true. We still do not know for sure why he is suspended besides failing a test (If he is suspended).
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Neither. You--and others---have deflected the blame away from Gordon throughout this process.
He knew the rules. He broke them. Repeatedly. It's his fault. It's not the fault of the NFL or society.
You're right vers.. it doesn't matter what your upbringing was like, it doesn't matter what your role models were like, it doesn't matter how you saw your future or the people you associated with... damn it the day somebody hands you a check and a rule book you should just automatically mature and change your ways... It's that simple.
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Then there are some of us who don't care about his predicament, but believe the NFL rules are archaic and a joke and that they should be changed.
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Ok? And?
Because we're dissatisfied with something we should just leave and not voice our opinion? What type of grade school logic is this?
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Because we're dissatisfied with something we should just leave and not voice our opinion? What type of grade school logic is this?
I don't think that was his point.. his point was that if you are going to sign up and play, as long as they own the ball you have to play by their rules.. (that is how this relates to Gordon)... If you would like to lead the charge to get the rules changed, you are perfectly welcome to do that....
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Ok? And?
Because we're dissatisfied with something we should just leave and not voice our opinion? What type of grade school logic is this?
I don't think that was his point.. his point was that if you are going to sign up and play, as long as they own the ball you have to play by their rules.. (that is how this relates to Gordon)... If you would like to lead the charge to get the rules changed, you are perfectly welcome to do that....
thanks. I know some or one had to have that explained. not to much upstairs I guess.
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Yeah, but since I said "Then there are some of us who don't care about his predicament", it really doesn't make sense as a response to me.
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Gordon is an adult, and is responsible for his actions. He knew the rules, and did not follow them. The rules had specified punishments for someone who did not follow them. Gordon knew this too.
This is not an ignorance of the rules situation. If it turns out to be a missing drug test because he was out of the country, then I'm sure the circumstances will be considered. If it was a failed drug test, then it is a violation of the rules, and he will be punished according to those rules.
As much as I would like to see him play, as much as I want him to play, it doesn't matter. Gordon was aware of the rules and he broke them, and should be punished as prescribed. There are very few valid excuses for failing a drug test...
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Why is it that evytime this discussion heats up I feel like I am watching "the Bird" episode from family Guy.
I feel like Stewie about half way through the episode when he is sitting on the couch' "Brian, I dont feel so good" and a little trickle of blood comes from his nose.
idk. weird huh?
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Yeah, again, I don't really care about his punishment. I just think the NFL rules are archaic and need to change.
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maybe from the pothead generation. and there kids that they helped ruin. but not for people who care about our country and our kids.
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it makes you a human being.
Aaahhh, so now it is my fault. I don't have compassion for poor Josh Gordon.
How much compassion did any of you show Bess when he was SUSPECTED of doing drugs? How much compassion did most of you show DA when he was laying on the ground injured? How much compassion did you show Banner and Lombardi when they were fired?
Nice job of ignoring my previous post to you that contained FACTS and turning the tables of it's "us" against "him." That sure has a human element to it. Not a very pretty human element, but a human element, nonetheless.
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How much compassion did you show Banner and Lombardi when they were fired?
Normally, I don't like seeing anyone lose their job, but I readily admit to holding the door open as they exited...
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