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Ravens website says Rice will be suspended two games, based on “reports”  Posted by Mike Florio on July 24, 2014, 10:57 AM EDT As more and more sports leagues and more and more teams try to get into the media business, unusual developments occur from time to time. Most recently, the Ravens have posted an item on their website acknowledging “multiple reports” that running back Ray Rice will be suspended two games for violating the NFL’s personal-conduct policy. Adam Schefter of ESPN has reported that an announcement of the suspension will come later today. On one hand, it’s smart that the Ravens didn’t avoid the topic. On the other hand, it would have been stupid to post the item without running the issue by folks higher on the organizational chart who may know which way the wind is or isn’t blowing. So if the folks who run the team’s website are smart, the mere posting of the story should be regarded as a very strong hint that, indeed, Rice will be suspended two games. The backlash already has begun, on two fronts. Some have argued that the suspension of Rice without a suspension of Colts owner Jim Irsay shows favorable treatment of the folks who sign the checks. Others have argued that Rice didn’t get suspended long enough. Both sentiments have a considerable degree of merit. Even though players are almost never suspended for a first-offense DUI and despite the fact that no discipline comes for a first-time DUI offender until the case is resolved, a strong expectation has emerged that Irsay should be and will be held to a higher standard. As to Rice, the fact that the NFL will throw a guy out of the game for a year due to the disease of addiction to marijuana or other non-PEDs but will ban a guy who knocked out his future wife in a public place for only two games seems more than a bit inconsistent. The common thread between those two angles comes from the league’s ongoing desire to police what players do on their own time with substances that don’t enhance performance. Regardless of whether Irsay is suspended sooner than later, the league likely won’t subject him to the same rigorous testing that would throw a player who has an uncured disease out of the league for a year or longer, for fear of ultimately having to throw an owner out of the league for a year or longer. Or permanently. So maybe the discussion eventually needs to focus squarely on the substance-abuse policy that applies to players. With coaches constantly policing performance by playing and/or keeping only the best players, that should be the ultimate litmus test for determining whether a guy should remain in the league notwithstanding the use of recreational drugs. If/when the use of street drugs affects his performance, he won’t have a job. If the use of street drugs doesn’t affect his performance, why should the NFL or anyone other than the appropriate law-enforcement agencies care?
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I knew he wouldn't miss our game and would miss the Pitt game ... not that he matters that much, but still And he'll get suspended for TWO games, yet Gordon might be for the whole season 
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Oh well, at least it's not a divisional opponent in his PRIME. And I should have posted this in Everything Else for the debate on weed, booze, & wife-beating this will soon become. Oh, did I start that???  I believe I read that Bernard Pierce was still an injury risk. Behind him we have Lorenzo Taliaferro and Justin Forsett.
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Smoke Weed - get a year
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Apparently it's not the offense in this league, but committing the same offense again and again and AGAIN . . .
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KO your wife - 2 games
Rape a woman - 2 games
goes to show how dangerous weed is.
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goes to show how dangerous weed is.
Smoking weed is about 8 times as bad as raping someone?
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goes to show how dangerous weed is.
Just the poster I was thinking of when I joked about putting this in 'Everything Else.'
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goes to show how dangerous weed is.
Smoking weed is about 8 times as bad as raping someone?
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goes to show how dangerous weed is.
Just the poster I was thinking of when I joked about putting this in 'Everything Else.'
except if beating your wife is a social commentary about the physical nature of football.. then the thread should be in Pure Football .. 
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I think you have to factor in the word "alleged" vs is "tested positive." I also think you have to factor in first time offense vs. multiple infractions. Think about it.........what happened to Gordon the first time he failed a test? Nothing. We didn't even know about it.
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Maybe this is what you're going for, maybe not...
But in all three cases (Rice, Gordon, Irsay), the final word is still pending. I don't think any of the three cases are resolved, and all "reports" aren't much more than rumor and conjecture.
I wouldn't be surprised if the reason that a decision is taking so long is that the NFL doesn't want to open up any of the cans of worms mentioned in this article (2 games for beating a woman vs. a year for habitual weed smoking, and players vs owners).
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The severity of the crime should also come into question. Ray Rice was on tape dragging his wife by the leg through a hotel after eyewitnesses saw him uppercut her in the head.
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I think you have to factor in the word "alleged" vs is "tested positive." I also think you have to factor in first time offense vs. multiple infractions. Think about it.........what happened to Gordon the first time he failed a test? Nothing. We didn't even know about it.
The only reason we even know about Rice's beat down is because it was caught on camera. She didn't press charges, how do we know it hasn't happened over and over again? Statistics show people who date rape and wife beat usually keep doing it. The likelihood he hasn't hit her before or that Ben hasn't pulled a stunt like that in the past is slim. But because they can't measure your wife beating and raping levels by way of a mandatory drug test, one guy gets a major suspension and the other guys basically get a long by week.
I'm not defending Gordon's stupidity. I'm pointing out the obvious flaws in this suspension system.
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The last player we had suspended for an entire season.....Donte Stallworth.
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Are you not including players like Blackmon who were suspended indefinitely, but will likely be out for a year (or more)? In other news, Blackmon was arrested again. At least as long as Blackmon is around we only have the second dumbest wide receiver.
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Are you not including players like Blackmon who were suspended indefinitely, but will likely be out for a year (or more)?
In other news, Blackmon was arrested again.
At least as long as Blackmon is around we only have the second dumbest wide receiver.
His key word was "WE" as in the Browns.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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I don't read too good.
I was wondering how Blackmon was being brought up  .
I was drawing a comparison to the two crimes and subsequent (potential) punishments. Manslaughter and Smoking weed are now the same on a punishment scale.
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The thing that bothers me is Irsay.
And really for that matter Haslam.
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Manslaughter and Smoking weed are now the same on a punishment scale.
People keep saying this.. there were a lot of mitigating circumstances to what Stallworth was charged with and he ultimately plead guilty to a lesser charge... Gordon has been caught how many times now? and now he has a DUI? He got another ticket with a guy in his car carrying weed?
One was an unfortunate accident, the other is lifestyle and a pattern of behavior.. are they the same? I don't know, that's up to your own judgement.. but it's not like one guy went out and killed a guy and the other smoked one joint and they are being punished the same...
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I don't read too good.
I was wondering how Blackmon was being brought up .
I was drawing a comparison to the two crimes and subsequent (potential) punishments. Manslaughter and Smoking weed are now the same on a punishment scale.
they didn't test Stallworth for pot. was probably high as a kite. everyone in the nfl smokes right.
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People keep saying this.. there were a lot of mitigating circumstances to what Stallworth was charged with and he ultimately plead guilty to a lesser charge... Gordon has been caught how many times now? and now he has a DUI? He got another ticket with a guy in his car carrying weed?
No matter how you phrase it there is no rational explanation that smoking weed, even a numerous amount of times, is the same as killing a person (Even if the killing was unintentional).
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I don't read too good.
I was wondering how Blackmon was being brought up .
I was drawing a comparison to the two crimes and subsequent (potential) punishments. Manslaughter and Smoking weed are now the same on a punishment scale.
they didn't test Stallworth for pot. was probably high as a kite. everyone in the nfl smokes right.
I really wish Browns Chat would open back up so these kind of posts would go back over there.
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Yeah... interesting.
Weed is legal in a few states... last I checked, knocking a girl out or raping one isn't. Yet the punishments don't add up.. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 
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Weed is legal in a few states... last I checked, knocking a girl out or raping one isn't. Yet the punishments don't add up.. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
weed is not legal any where in the united states. that's just a lie potheads tell themselves. rape is illegal and knocking a girl out could be self defense so sometimes it is legal.
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Maybe not on a federal level, but I don't see the states that have it as legal getting any grief whatsoever...  All bs aside, can you tell me given the context of football, these punishments add up? Honestly? Spare me the "weed is a gateway" drug bs/talk too, cause that is just mumbo jumbo. Someone smokes a joint, beats their wife, rapes someone - who you think should get the year punishment huh? Answer me truthfully.
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Maybe not on a federal level, but I don't see the states that have it as legal getting any grief whatsoever...
All bs aside, can you tell me given the context of football, these punishments add up? Honestly?
one is a drug test you keep failing, one is a rape that was never charged if it happened at all. one was his wife beating on him until he lost his temper and decked her.
so one that might or might not happened, one that he just lost his temper with a reason to do so and one that flaunts the rules of the nfl. who do you think the nfl is going to hammer?
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Bro.. we are just in two different ballparks then. Different planets. I'll just leave it at that...
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Bro.. we are just in two different ballparks then. Different planets. I'll just leave it at that...
evidently with this subject I am with a lot of the board. doesn't make me wrong just enlightened. I am sure in a couple of years when the dea and fbi put the crackdown on rouge states like colorado people will be saying how smart I am. I can wait.
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Yeah... interesting.
Weed is legal in a few states... last I checked, knocking a girl out or raping one isn't. Yet the punishments don't add up.. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I am pretty sure Goodell would love to suspend those guys more. But, neither Ray Rice nor Ben Roethlisburger was ever convicted. That puts the NFL in a bit of a bind with the NFLPA and signed CBA. In fact, the NFLPA could fight this tooth and nail if they truly wanted to and likely avoid any suspension for Ray Rice (the reason I suspect that they do not is that it'd be a PR nightmare and they need public sentiment on their side during CBA negotiations. I supsect Ray realizes this could have gone off worse and NFLPA advised him to just take the deal).
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Okay... so they wasn't convicted and had the luxury of paying off someone with their money. Therefore since they had the money to pay their way outta the crimes they committed - they shouldn't be punished as extremely as the regular ole pot head who likely didn't even cause a disturbance. It still doesn't add up. I'm sorry I'm not trying to be difficult or argumentative. I just don't see the punishments, regardless of whatever/however - is fair. The video of Rice dragging his wife around, who is clearly not in a state of consciousness - is more hardcore than getting pulled over with some weed on you. To each their own though.. Pblack - I didn't say you were wrong directly, just that our views were on different levels. Which is perfectly okay!
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I suggest you come out to Colorado sometime, you and I must have differing definitions of "legal"
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It isn't about smoking ONE joint vs. one rape or abuse.
It's about repeated violations vs. alleged incidents. What's so hard to understand?
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I suggest you come out to Colorado sometime, you and I must have differing definitions of "legal"
until the feds roll in and ruin your day.
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Will you please stop w/that nonsense? I don't smoke pot, but it isn't that bad. You are just adding fuel to the fire of those who are making excuses for Gordon.
This isn't about how bad pot is. It's about a guy who knew the rules and has broken them over and over and over and over and over.
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Goodell has been getting hammered for this today.
If this is true, it can only help Josh Gordon.
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Well, that is great news. I am really happy that he checked himself into rehab. I hope it isn't just a facade to help his cause w/the NFL, but instead...a serious attempt to get help.
I know most of you won't agree--or even understand--this, but I hope Gordon does receive the indefinite ban. I hope that it is thee wake-up call that makes him turn his life around and fulfill his amazing potential. I don't think getting off easy will do anything other than prolong the agony.
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Josh has been in rehab since his DUI.
http://fansided.com/2014/07/24/josh-gordon-checked-rehab-still-expected-report-camp/
Guess this why Pettine said he "expects him to show on Friday."
best thing he could do for the browns and himself. this might really help with him being suspended. its exactly what a addict has to do.
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