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You don't know that he is an addict. Sheesh...........everything is extremes around here. Some wanna blame the NFL for Josh's problems and then others act like smoking pot makes you the anti-Christ. 
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You don't know that he is an addict.
Sheesh...........everything is extremes around here.
Some wanna blame the NFL for Josh's problems and then others act like smoking pot makes you the anti-Christ.
sheesh you want him in rehab because he isn't a addict? cant have it both ways vers.
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The thing that bothers me is Irsay.
And really for that matter Haslam.
Money and power talk.
Is there somewhere in the CBA that the owners agreed to be held responsible for their actions outside of football? Drug tested? Does the CBA give authority to Goodell to push punishment on them?
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one was his wife beating on him until he lost his temper and decked her....
...one that he just lost his temper with a reason to do so
So, the next time I beat my wife I have a legitimate reason for having done so... she made me mad.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
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Bro, I hope that was a slip of the tongue. You meant the "first" time you beat your wife...not, the "next" time.............
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I'm not even married Vers. I was married for 14 years. That was over and done 22 years ago. I never even got close to striking her. I could not do that no matter how much she tried to make me.  I was just poking fun at doofus there who seemed to think dude was justified in hitting his wife because she made him mad.
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Reportedly, pot has only been an issue once in the NFL for Josh and even that was a friend with it in the car when he was speeding.
Purple drank, missed test , speeding with pot in the car, and DUI are the incidents reported. Of course three of them were this past offseason.
Rice may have paid his wife off, but not sure what you rhink the NFL can do when the police cannot even charge him.
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I don't know you.........but, I know you. I would never believe in a million years that you would strike a woman. I am just a careful reader, even though guys like YTown and DC say I can't read.
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It isn't about smoking ONE joint vs. one rape or abuse.
It's about repeated violations vs. alleged incidents. What's so hard to understand?
How many times does one have to smoke pot before it is 8 times worse than knocking your wife unconscious in a casino elevator and then dragging her out into the lobby?
Evidently the answer to that question is 4 or 5.
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God points here: Goodell fails brutally with two-game suspension for scary Ray Rice - CBSSports.com http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/...-scary-ray-riceThe punch line is coming. That's the only thing that makes sense about the joke NFL commissioner Roger Goodell told Thursday when he told the world that allegedly knocking a woman unconscious -- and definitely being caught on video dragging her lifeless body from the elevator -- is punishable by a two-game suspension. That's a good one, Commish. Now finish the joke. Pop out of a cake and scream, "Gotcha!" And then tell us how many games -- how many seasons -- Ray Rice is really going to miss. The cruelty is coming. That's the only other thing that makes sense about the kindness Goodell showed Rice on Thursday when he gave the Ravens running back the same suspension he gave Detroit's Mikel Leshoure in 2012 for a pair of marijuana arrests, and the same suspension he gave New Orleans' Will Smith in 2011 for taking a banned diuretic. That's cold, Commish. Giving Ray Rice hope that he'll play in September -- that he'll play ever again -- when what Ray Rice did deserves a ban of biblical proportions. And surely (right?) Roger Goodell is about to go all Old Testament on Rice's ass and announce the real suspension in 3, 2, 1 ... 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 ... Let's go, Commish. This isn't funny anymore. This is strange bordering on stupid bordering on you've got to be kidding me. Two games? For that? Ben Roethlisberger was suspended six games (later reduced to four) in 2010 and he wasn't even charged with a crime. Granted, he was accused by two different women of something as serious as sexual assault, but police didn't bring charges in either case and Goodell hammered the Steelers quarterback anyway because he didn't like the way those accusations reflected on the NFL. So I guess my question is this: Who's going to suspend Roger Goodell for six games? Because people around the league are mortified by how this ridiculous punishment of Ray Rice reflects on the NFL. Goodell didn't make the league look "weak." Suspending a known drug cheat for four games makes the league look weak. Suspending a guy who police say knocked his fiance unconscious, and who a video caught dragging her body off the elevator like a roll of carpet, for just two games? This makes the NFL look horrible. In the same offseason that an NFL team drafted the league's first openly gay player, Michael Sam, the New York Giants have hired a guy (David Tyree) who once said he'd trade his famous Super Bowl helmet catch if it would stop gay marriage. That looks bad. Goodell's suspension of Ray Rice? This looks horrible. In a few months the NFL is going to go pink, using October to raise awareness for breast cancer by adopting that cause's color on players, coaches, sideline markers, coin-flip coins and more. It's a great and noble thing the NFL is doing, and in a few months when I see it happening again it will make me smile. But today the idea of it makes me queasy, because today Roger Goodell had a very real, tangible chance to do something on behalf of women everywhere -- on behalf of battered women everywhere, and sadly, they are everywhere -- by going Old Testament on Ray Rice and smiting him to within an inch of his NFL life. Had Goodell gone too far the other way, and I'm not even sure what "too far the other way" could possibly look like, there would be little to no outrage. Suspend Ray Rice for half the season, the whole season -- hell, suspend Ray Rice for the rest of his career because an incredibly strong, incredibly muscular NFL player simply cannot use that strength to hurt a woman -- and we would have understood. Maybe we'd think, gee Commish, that was harsh. But we'd have understood, even approved the overall point that a man cannot hurt a woman and get away with it. Not on Roger Goodell's watch. Better for Goodell to have erred on the side of harshness -- an eye for an eye, Ray Rice; an eye for an eye -- than to have erred on this side of the line. On the side that says what Ray Rice did to his tiny, defenseless fiance was tantamount to what Lions defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh did in 2011 when he was suspended two games for stomping on a 310-pound opponent wearing football pads. That's what Roger Goodell has said, so now I'm going to sit here and wait for him to say something else. Because what he has said so far isn't good enough. It has to be a joke. Even if the only person I can imagine laughing is Ray Rice.
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Don't forget Goodell suspended Haynesworth for stomping on the head of a Cowboy player - giving him 30 stitches in the head. He got 5 games???
A terrible act but in a game of violence and a blow up against somebody. But a wife in an act of violence punching her OUT... 2 games.
Its not about Pot smokers vs wife/girlfriend beaters. Its not about Gordon possible 1 year ban that was due to repeat offense stuff.
It just does not set the message of the NFL organization out there to the million youths playing the sport and the thousands of young adults playing in college.
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No matter what, any player in the NFL KO's a woman like Ray Rice did should get a long suspension. 2 Games is a joke. I don't care about other players suspension lengths and what they did to get them, Punching a woman in anyway should not be tolerated. Goodell should have sent a message.
One of the reasons I did not like the signing of Frostee Rucker a few years ago was because of his violent history of abusing women.
But it's all cool, the NFL Pinks out for Breast Cancer awarness so it's fine if they slap the wrist on a few women beaters.
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Maybe we are being a little to harsh on Goodell, questioning the NFL's (and Ravens) support for women...
...let us not forget how special women are in the eyes of the NFL... web page
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....and to further show the NFL and Raven respect for female dignity, we have this: web page
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I'd respect her .... if she wasn't a Ravens cheerleader. 
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jfan...but the NFL (and the Ravens) go out of their way to show their support for women during breast cancer awareness by offering a pink Raglan T-Shirt for only $5 more than the Ravens regular Raglan T-Shirt in gray and purple.
The NFL shows their support for cancer awareness by turning it into a money making project for the NFL and the teams.
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Rice may have paid his wife off, but not sure what you rhink the NFL can do when the police cannot even charge him.
I know. I hear ya, loud and clear. When the end of the day comes, the punishments are still unfair IMO. The NFL can only enforce inside it's means, I understand that. I'm sure if Rice was convicted, the NFL would likely ban him or an extremely long suspension (as you indicated in your initial post saying you were sure the NFL wanted to punish him and Ben more, but...)
It's that "but" that gets me angry.
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No doubt. I'm angry too. And really hope that his wife is telling the truth (for her own sake) when she says this is a one time incident. The statistics say that isn't likely though.
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call me old fashioned but any violence against women is season ending offense period.
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When Eric Wright allegedly raped a girl after giving her ecstasy, most of the board defended Wright by saying that he wasn't convicted of anything. I looked into the case deeply and there was little doubt that Wright was guilty, but no one wanted to hear it. He was a Brown and the girl was a gold digger, despite the fact that she never got any money. Now, all of a sudden.............we are very moral about attacks on women.
Excuse me if I ain't buying it. If Gordon played for Cincy, Pit, or Baltimore, you guys would be screaming that he should be banned for life.
Come on, man............be real.
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Excuse me if I ain't buying it. If Gordon played for Cincy, Pit, or Baltimore, you guys would be screaming that he should be banned for life.
Not me.
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I think you have to factor in the word "alleged" vs is "tested positive."
Well, I saw the elevator footage of Rice 'allegedly' dragging his then-fiancée by her hair after he knocked her out. Seems a bit of a different type of offense than weed. I think the woman is crazy for marrying him. Hope & pray there's not a murder charge against him in his future for beating her even worse. It's good he has honestly confronted it, but while the NFL goes on a witch hunt for 'hate speech' vs. David Tyree and Tony Dungy, and whipping up a false accusation of racism against the Redskins, they're not doing any favors to women suffering from domestic violence.
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call me old fashioned but any violence against women is season ending offense period.
You're old fashioned. But I like old fashioned. I'm old fashioned in the same way.
Where are the NOW battleaxes and the network "War on Women" talking heads with the NFL letting a player skate after beating up his girl??
They're two busy circling the wagons around Michael Sam and scalping the Redskins fans.
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come on who isnt gonna laugh when one announcer says congratulation to Michael sam on getting his first sack and the the other announcer says I dont think its his first  Or when he intercepts the ball and skips off towards the endzone. Or If mack goes for a squeeze in the pile and you see Sam smiling. BTW will anyone be surprised when Jonathon Martin and Michael Sam go head to head. ok i will stop now As for Rice well she deserved what she got but he still should have gotten atleast 8 games.
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Why is this surprising? The NFL looks at drugs differently than assault. tiny ben sexually assaulted two different women and he got a 4 game suspension. The man is a sexual predator. Four games. A guys smokes a joint or does some performance enhancing substance and he's in real trouble. That is just the way it is in the NFL at the moment. Had Josh beat his girlfriend or sexually assaulted a young lady, he'd be let off with a short suspension. He's on his third strike for drugs though so he's going to do a year. It's not right, but it is how the NFL does things. They hate guns and dope, they don't mind physical or sexual assault. I have no real problem with them suspending Gordon for a year. He knew if he blew a doobie he was going to get a year. He did it anyway so he must WANT a year off. I think Rice should have been banned for two years and I think tiny ben should have been banned from the sport for life. But then that's me. I look at sexual predators a little differently than the Commish does.
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I have no idea what the CBA states in regard to the actions of owners.
I just find it hypocritical that what Irsay and Haslam did so far has gone by with no comment.
Rice cold cocks his wife and gets two games is a farce.
All things considered there is no way that Gordon should get a year. Eight games given the history and the "offense" is more than fair.
If Gordon was a repeat user of steroids or some other performance enhancing drug then yes a year would be fair.
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I saw the Olberman piece when it first aired.. good bit.
I also heard the guy from the NFL office on Mike and Mike defending the decision and stating how he feels good that the NFL really sent a message that the league won't tolerate domestic violence.. I had a chuckle. Terrell Pryor sold some sweat pants for tattoos and drove some questionable vehicles and gets 5 games... Yea, 2 games really sends a message that domestic violence is just horrible.
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Sad thing is that Josh quite possibly didn't smoke anything but was just hanging around other people that were. You can get high of second hand smoke with pot.
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Sad thing is that Josh quite possibly didn't smoke anything but was just hanging around other people that were. You can get high of second hand smoke with pot.
I would put that on the "possible but highly unlikely" side of the spectrum..
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Sad thing is that Josh quite possibly didn't smoke anything but was just hanging around other people that were. You can get high of second hand smoke with pot.
I would put that on the "possible but highly unlikely" side of the spectrum..
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ESPN has suspended Stephen A. Smith from its TV and radio airwaves for a week following his controversial comments about Baltimore running back Ray Rice's wife, according to Sports Illustrated.
The NFL's two-game suspension of Rice was already a hotly debated topic and Smith threw gasoline on the fire, suggesting on "First Take" that Rice's then-fiancée Janay Palmer could have done something to prevent last year's alleged domestic violence incident in an Atlantic City elevator.
"What I’ve tried to employ the female members of my family — some of who you all met and talked to and what have you — is that ... let’s make sure we don’t do anything to provoke wrong actions, because if I come — or somebody else come, whether it’s law enforcement officials, your brother or the fellas that you know — if we come after somebody has put their hands on you, it doesn’t negate the fact that they already put their hands on you."
Most notably, Smith's ESPN colleague Michelle Beadle drew attention to Smith's insensitive commentary.
Soon afterward, Smith unleashed another ill-conceived rant on Twitter during his first attempt at an apology, reiterating in response to Beadle on Friday, "But what about addressing women on how they can help prevent the obvious wrong being done upon them? In no way was I accusing women of being wrong. I was simply saying what that preventive measures always need to be addressed because there's only but so much that can be done after the fact ... once the damage is already done."
Given the weekend for a Third Take, Smith reformed his apology on the air Monday.
“On Friday, speaking right here on ‘First Take’ on the subject of domestic violence, I made what can only amount to the most egregious error of my career,” Smith said. “My words came across that it is somehow a woman’s fault. This was not my intent. It is not what I was trying to say.”
That apology wasn't enough to avoid suspension from his employer. ESPN president John Skipper issued a memorandum to the company's employees obtained by SI's Richard Deitsch.
"As many of you know, there has been substantial news coverage in the past few days related to comments Stephen A. made last Friday in the wake of the NFL's decision to suspend Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice for two games following charges of assaulting his then fiancée, now wife, a few months ago.
"We've said publicly and in this space that those remarks did not reflect our company's point of view, or our values. They certainly don't reflect my personal beliefs."
Skipper further explained the decision to suspend Smith until Aug. 6 came as the result of discussions with ESPN's women's employee resource group.
ESPN currently broadcasts Monday Night Football, and for those counting at home Smith's suspension is just one week shy of Rice's.
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The "victimization" of adults is such a ridiculous notion. Free association and choices are a reality.
She could have prevented the assault by not dating and planning to marry a horrible horrible human being. I'm sure she's a real peach if that is who she ended up with.
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I saw the Olberman piece when it first aired.. good bit.
I also heard the guy from the NFL office on Mike and Mike defending the decision and stating how he feels good that the NFL really sent a message that the league won't tolerate domestic violence.. I had a chuckle. Terrell Pryor sold some sweat pants for tattoos and drove some questionable vehicles and gets 5 games... Yea, 2 games really sends a message that domestic violence is just horrible.
Olbermann is good...I especially like his reference to the Ravens/NFL sales pitch, encouraging women to buy a Ravens #27 PINK T-Shirt with Rice's name on the back...
The NFL's Adolpho Birch was on Mike and Mike and it was painful just to listen to as he attempted to explain the rational of the NFL's decision to suspend Ray Rice for only 2 games. No doubt Goodell sent Birch out to run some interference for him, as poor Roger is getting cut to pieces publicly for his decision to suspend Ray Rice for only 2 games for knocking his fiancee out cold.
I have to laugh at people (like Adolpho Birch) trying their best to explain Goodell's decision to give Ray Rice a slap on the wrist for knocking his fiancee out cold...ON TAPE!
"It is what it is"...Roger Goodell did "A FAVOR" for the Ravens...
...for the Ravens owner, Steve Bisciotti and for the Ravens GM, Ozzie Newsome.
I realize, for some, it's almost "unthinkable" to even hint that the people in charge of the NFL would show any sort of favoritism for one franchise...but that is exactly what Goodell did in this case.
Should we be shocked?...
Think about it, favoritism and bias surrounds us every day of our lives...we see it in politics, in the private sector, in hiring practices, in promotions...just to mention a few areas where favoritism takes place.
...it happens so often in everyday life that most times, we don't even give favoritism and bias a second thought.
But, FAVORITISM IN THE NFL?...some are shocked and unwilling to believe that there could be any sort of favoritism by those at the upper levels of management in the NFL.
...it is time for NFL fans to face reality...there is favoritism practiced within the NFL and the punishment handed out to Ray Rice is just one example.
...Roger simply did the Ravens a favor.
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I think this goes without saying, but Roger Goodell is paid quite well and holds a prestigious position. A large part of his responsibility is being unbiased.
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Stephen A. Smith suspended for a week for his stupid statements. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdo...-213719386.htmlNo word on if the Baltimore Ravens will suspend their people for basically forcing Ray's wife to apologize for her role in getting knocked out.
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He got a week for saying something stupid ...... and Rice got 2 weeks for beating his wife into unconsciousness .......
Sounds equitable.
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